Branimir202 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 For the worst I'd have to say its a toss up between Claude who seemed to not really have a direct reason for his motivations, was it greed? blood lust? a violent crusade for revenge against anyone who betrayed him? Hard to say for sure but Claude was one of the more ruthless protagonists for sure. Tommy seemed to actually be somewhat psychotic and seemed to be more or less out for himself with much less loyalties and less reservation to killing in general. Especially when it came to furthering his name and empire. Closest I'd say to having semi decent morals would probably be Vic Vance or Luis. Vic got sucked further into the life of crime (as is usually standard in the Gta world, but Vic at least had some loyalties, was generally more opposed to killing unless he had to. Luis was a bit rough around the edges but in the end he was just a guy trying to look out for Armando and Henrique as well as support his mother and keep himself and Tony alive and out debt. He was a DLC character sure but he probably did the least amount damage, he really wasn't involved in that many killings or major crimes. He was far from perfect but for Gta standards he was probably the closest to having decent motivation and morals. Cj was a decent guy with family and friend loyalties but he still had his messed up moments, that mission where he murders a bunch of construction workers because they were checking out Kendl comes to mind. Same with stealing Madd Dogg's rhyme book and messing up his career. Niko tried to have a fresh start but it seemed like he could never leave his violent war past behind, that same mentality follows him as he drops a colossal amount of bodies, greed seemed to take over and he seemed to be trapped reverting to killing and all sorts of other crimes as that was all he knew, as he openly says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Cowboy Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Worst morals? Probably Claude he betrayed half of Liberty City just for money sometimes III storyline doesn't really makes sense. Other protagonsits were at least partially loayal to some sides. About best morals, probably Vic as you stated before, he was certainly one of the most moral protagonists out of all GTAs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisciletti Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Worst morals: Dimitri Rascalov. He asked Niko to kill his best friend and after that betrayed Niko. Best morals: Kate McReary, she told Niko not to make the deal with Dimitri, who had betrayed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flesh-n-Bone Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Worst protagonist? Claude, he didn't give a f*ck about anything or anyone. Would do anything he's told without even thinking about it. Best protagonist? Vic probably. He cared about those around him and clearly was not comfortable in the drug world. All he wanted to do was get money to feed his family and treat his sick brother. Outside of protagonists... Best morals: Kendl (SA) - Showed Carl a better way than the gang life and was the voice of reason within the Johnson family when Sweet was too concerned about his gang and Carl would recklessly do anything. Worst: Donald Love - Necrophiliac, cannibal and killed his former mentor just for some "plans" that included ordering Toni to commit an outright terrorist act by blowing up Fort Staunton and killing lots of innocent people. Lock n' Stock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atay26 Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 This is ridiculous, what does loyalty got to do with morality. Don't confuse such simple words and to answer the question, I think most of if not all protagonist are amoral. It seems that they are incapable of being moral and also not knowing right to wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
universetwisters Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 (edited) Toni had the worst, he was willing to blow up a neighborhood for a few measly bucks I think Luis had some of the best, like yea he was a crook but he was actively trying to get himself out of that life with Tony and stuff. Not to mention that he's the only GTA protagonist with a legitimate job iirc E. f*ck thought this was for protags with best and worst morals. Edited April 1 by universetwisters Zello 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChubbyB0b Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 The worst are Claude and Toni. One is cold, merciless killer, who will kill and betray pretty much everyone in order to get what he wants, the other blew up entire street, killing who knows how many civilians. Tommy Vercetti is kinda in the middle, he is neither here nor there, he will absolutely kill anyone who gets in his way but in contrast to Claude he values loyalty above everything else so he is better in that regard, he won't stab you in the back, he will rather stab you in the face. CJ mostly does atrocities in order to fix problems or because he has no other choice. Victor Vance is good guy who gets pulled into drug trafficking and other criminal activities because he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Joined army to provide for his family only to be set up by his superior and kicked out soon after. Niko Bellic came to Liberty City in search of better life only to end up in criminal world once again due to his cousin and vengeance. All of them are hardened criminals, but besides the first two, others show some level of morality/feelings towards others, they are not entirely cold killers like they seem at the first glance. This is really obvious between Tommy Vercetti and Earnest Kelly (whom he sees as father figure) and Mercedes Cortez, CJ and his family, Victor and his brother Lance and Louise Cassidy-Williams, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copcaller Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Worst- Dimitri Best- Kate mcreary ThatBenGuy1998 and killdrivetheftvehicle 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioshenka Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 (edited) Morals? I don't think any GTA character has morals to be honest. I suppose Truth and Toreno had some sort of morality to them in that Truth was a hippy and a thug (as opposed to a cold blooded killer), and Toreno consistently did what's best for the country rather than follow his feelings. The girls generally had some more decency to them too: Kendl was okay, although she didn't try to stop CJ from killing the building site foreman. Karen/Michelle eventually came out clean to Niko without outright betraying him. Edited April 4 by Lioshenka ThatBenGuy1998 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-G Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 8 hours ago, Lioshenka said: Truth was a hippy and a thug (as opposed to a cold blooded killer) The Truth wasn't a thug AFAIK, he was just a conspiracy theorist hippy that occasionally sold non-hard(?) drugs to criminals. H-G's Workshop https://gtaforums.com/topic/905964-h-gs-workshop/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioshenka Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 1 hour ago, H-G said: The Truth wasn't a thug AFAIK, he was just a conspiracy theorist hippy that occasionally sold non-hard(?) drugs to criminals. He instructed CJ to steal a combine harvester, so together with the drugs and DUIs I thought thug may be the best word to describe him. A bit of a thug maybe? Still more morals than most of the characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-G Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 10 minutes ago, Lioshenka said: He instructed CJ to steal a combine harvester, so together with the drugs and DUIs I thought thug may be the best word to describe him. A bit of a thug maybe? Still more morals than most of the characters. The guys CJ stole the harvester from were right-wing survivalists anyway, so I don't think that counts AFAIK? H-G's Workshop https://gtaforums.com/topic/905964-h-gs-workshop/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioshenka Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 2 hours ago, H-G said: The guys CJ stole the harvester from were right-wing survivalists anyway, so I don't think that counts AFAIK? No, regardless of whether they were good or bad, Truth can't take the law into his own hands. Just like if CJ kills a bunch of Ballas, he's still a murderer. H-G 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemoyne outlaw Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 (edited) floyd hebert. this guy has all the morals in the world. he regretted stealing a pencil when he was in school. unfortunately because he was such a good person he got taken advantage of. the very moment trevor busted into his condo and left with wade. he should have called the cops on him. as for worst morals im thinking devin weston. he betrayed his friends and refused to pay the gta 5 trio even after completing the job. he sits in his mansion and acts like a spoiled entitled piece of sh*t. and he sends his private army to fight his battles. and he also helped torture mr k. in the by the book mission when michael and trevor go into the torture room devin brags about punching mr k. he deserved his death. there are so many other high and low moral characters in the series but i just decided to do one of each. Edited April 24 by Lemoyne outlaw NightmanCometh96 and H-G 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zello Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 On 4/1/2022 at 1:30 PM, universetwisters said: Toni had the worst, he was willing to blow up a neighborhood for a few measly bucks Toni was the first religious terrorist protagonist in the series zBiglucky, universetwisters, H-G and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhettoJesus Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 There could be hundreds of characters listed under "best morals" considering that most side characters are normal people. So I am not gonna bother with that. As for worst, obviously most of the antagonists and protagonists come here. Probably Claude, Tenpenny, Dmitri are some of the most ruthless protagonists and antagonists. H-G 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatBenGuy1998 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Worst: Donald Love. That man is Pure Evil to the bone. Frank Tenpenny, Dimitri Rascalov, Ray Bulgarin, and Catalina are a close second to fifth. Best: Chop. I mean, he’s just a dog after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade Monke Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Worst: Michael. Rat and prick who bertrayed his friends to save his own skin and was willing to commit any type of atrocity to save himself. I was glad to kill that prick in ending B. Best: Either Tommy Vercetti or Niko Bellic. Tommy was loyal to his friends and for most of the game even to his boss who bertrayed him because he believed in the sense of honor. He only hated those who tried to f*ck him over. Even when he built his empire he stayed loyal to people like the leader of the Cuban gang and the biker gang. Niko was also loyal to his friends and only killed those that bertrayed him, similar to Tommy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homicidal Hipster Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 Worst morals. Trevor. He uses people, abuses them, kills for sport, and ruins lives. the case can be made that he also has some of the best morals in a GTA protagonist. He's loyal to his friends,and refuses to take part in the kill Michael ending despite everything Michael did to him. Still no GTA protagonist is a moral man by any stretch . They all kill, rob and manipulate to get what they want . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR Cherry Bomb Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 Worst: Toni Cipriani. He literally was willing to up the entire Fort Staunton building where millions of people were residing in. Best: Victor Vance. This dude has a code. Sure he builds up an entire drug empire and gang, but he actually was never comfortable with dealing. He finally gets what he wants at the ending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atay26 Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 I seriously don't think any GTA protagonists has any morals? They are all willing to become criminals and would do anything for money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homicidal Hipster Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Morals are for the weak. True men are unfettered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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