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Getzmunney

Gang Life in Los Santos

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Killerdude
WOW Y'ALL ARE IDIOTS WHEN IT COMES TO THE 3D ERA VS THE HD ERA.

 

I'll explain in FULL DETAIL how this whole Gang thing works in the two GTA  Eras. The STATE of San Andreas can exist in any era because it's a BRAND. The city of Los Santos can exist in any era because it's also a BRAND. San Andreas=California and Los Santos=Los Angeles The Families are THE GANG known for wearing GREEN. The Ballas are THE GANG known for wearing PURPLE. Gangs in the two eras are BRANDS. So that means they can exist in each era. Grove Street, Temple Drive and Serville Boulevard are SETS from the FAMILIES GANG. They CAN NOT return because they aren't a BRAND, they're just a SUB GROUP from a MAIN BRAND (The Families). Rollin' Heights, Temple Drive, Kilo Trays and the Front Yards are SETS from the BALLAS GANG. Those SETS can not return in the HD era because they aren't BRANDS, they're also SUB GROUPS from the BRAND (Ballas). The Ballas and The Families are the EQUIVALENT BRANDS to Los Santos, San Andreas as The Bloods and The Crips are EQUIVALENT BRANDS to Los Angeles, California.

 

So both Franklin and Lamar could very well be from THE FAMILIES but their SET is going to be different from the 3D era set. They could be from a newer set, for example: East Side Ganton Families, West Side Ganton Families, 102nd Street Families, etc. etc. BUT Franklin is moving on from the Gang Life. Lamar is trapped in that Bangin' mindset, trying to pull Frank back into it. That's why you saw Franklin with a GREEN BANDANNA over his face. There's only ONE GANG known for sporting green rags and that's FAMILIES. They were chasing a man wearing purple street clothes BUT he had NO RAG hanging or across his face so he is therefore an ASSUMED Ballas gang member.

Then where the hell is the Zaibatzu and the Loonies?

I want older rehashed gangs!

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But on a more serious note, i understand completely.

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Saturnis
WOW Y'ALL ARE IDIOTS WHEN IT COMES TO THE 3D ERA VS THE HD ERA.

 

I'll explain in FULL DETAIL how this whole Gang thing works in the two GTA  Eras. The STATE of San Andreas can exist in any era because it's a BRAND. The city of Los Santos can exist in any era because it's also a BRAND. San Andreas=California and Los Santos=Los Angeles The Families are THE GANG known for wearing GREEN. The Ballas are THE GANG known for wearing PURPLE. Gangs in the two eras are BRANDS. So that means they can exist in each era. Grove Street, Temple Drive and Serville Boulevard are SETS from the FAMILIES GANG. They CAN NOT return because they aren't a BRAND, they're just a SUB GROUP from a MAIN BRAND (The Families). Rollin' Heights, Temple Drive, Kilo Trays and the Front Yards are SETS from the BALLAS GANG. Those SETS can not return in the HD era because they aren't BRANDS, they're also SUB GROUPS from the BRAND (Ballas). The Ballas and The Families are the EQUIVALENT BRANDS to Los Santos, San Andreas as The Bloods and The Crips are EQUIVALENT BRANDS to Los Angeles, California.

 

So both Franklin and Lamar could very well be from THE FAMILIES but their SET is going to be different from the 3D era set. They could be from a newer set, for example: East Side Ganton Families, West Side Ganton Families, 102nd Street Families, etc. etc. BUT Franklin is moving on from the Gang Life. Lamar is trapped in that Bangin' mindset, trying to pull Frank back into it. That's why you saw Franklin with a GREEN BANDANNA over his face. There's only ONE GANG known for sporting green rags and that's FAMILIES. They were chasing a man wearing purple street clothes BUT he had NO RAG hanging or across his face so he is therefore an ASSUMED Ballas gang member.

dude all of that was said already. Point is all off these brands don't make returns, especially when it comes to gangs. R* has never reused any gangs, so because were in L.A. they must res-use this brand? something they never done before? all while trying to give the user a new experience. Doesn't fit, the argument of because they are wearing purple and green must signify families and ballas holds no weight. Franklin also wears blue and white, in the trailer the other guy with him wears grey, so what? I get that it's weird that R* would put this in there if it didn't mean anything but like some other guy said, they put diablo reference in gta 4 trailer and that never materialized and had no significance, it was simply for nostalgia. Same thing this purple and green sh*t could turn up being.

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kasa

as long as there is some kind of gangactivity Im happy, hopefully one of the protagonists is part of it

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Honest Bill

I agree with the OP.. It definitely seems as though Ballas and GSF are back.. I'm glad about that.

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Woosaa

Are you serious??? They are back???

 

Oh! Look what I found! A fat dude, f*ck! Fat Guys Swag are back now! OMFG i'm so excited I sh*t my pants!

 

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Honest Bill
Are you serious??? They are back???

 

Oh! Look what I found! A fat dude, f*ck! Fat Guys Swag are back now! OMFG i'm so excited I sh*t my pants!

 

 

What do you mean?

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If CJ never existed, then Grove street never existed either.

 

This is true and it isn't true. Grove Street wouldn't have existed but the Families would have. CJ, Sweet and Big Smoke were leaders of the Grove Street set but it is hinted in game that all the Families sets (Temple Drive, Grove & Seville) were once united as one faction called the Orange Grove Families but split off meaning whether or not CJ, Big Smoke, Ryder, or any other highly regarded member of Grove Street existed or not there would still be the Orange Grove Families regardless.

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Honest Bill
' date='Thursday, Nov 15 2012, 07:41']
If CJ never existed, then Grove street never existed either.

 

This is true and it isn't true. Grove Street wouldn't have existed but the Families would have. CJ, Sweet and Big Smoke were leaders of the Grove Street set but it is hinted in game that all the Families sets (Temple Drive, Grove & Seville) were once united as one faction called the Orange Grove Families but split off meaning whether or not CJ, Big Smoke, Ryder, or any other highly regarded member of Grove Street existed or not there would still be the Orange Grove Families regardless.

Not to mention that by that logic, then if Grove street didn't exist, then neither did Vinewood, or Los Santos itself.. So it's irrelevant.. Grove Street could still return.

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Killerdude

Seriously, if you get GSF and Ballas, i Get Zaibatzu and Loonies..

 

 

 

 

 

...only fair.......

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Degrees

I think the Mafia argument is not a good one for why Ballas and GSF won't return. Mafia's name change because of new bosses so the Mafia families have different names based on the Don's last name. But with Street gangs most as seen with the Cribs and Bloods keep that name for decades. CJ doesn't have to exist for the GSF and Ballas too. Just like Leone didn't exist in 3 but the other Mafia families did. Besides like someone else said when you have perfect representatives of the Cribs and Bloods in Ballas and GSF why change the names.

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blakeney

I thought it said Ballas, but looks to me like Gawns or something is closer... the B defo looks more like a G anyway... also, the second A doesnt look like an A anymore?

 

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Honest Bill

Looks like it's supposed to say Ballas to me..

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United_Stealth

Lol, that second guy is franklin and he wears a blue shirt.

The first one could easily be a random guy wearing a purple shirt with matching shoes.

In other words, this trailer proves NOTHING!

Mark my words

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Honest Bill
Lol, that second guy is franklin and he wears a blue shirt.

The first one could easily be a random guy wearing a purple shirt with matching shoes.

In other words, this trailer proves NOTHING!

Mark my words

It doesn't actually prove anything that's true, but it still looks like a hint.. Don't forget there was also that screen of Franklin wearing a green bandana

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Marabunta Grande

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The guy in the circle is wearing a purple shirt. After this shot, the chase takes place with another guy wearing purple.

user posted image.

 

I doubt why Rockstar will show us two different shots of two different people wearing purple.

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Getzmunney
user posted image

The guy in the circle is wearing a purple shirt. After this shot, the chase takes place with another guy wearing purple.

user posted image.

 

I doubt why Rockstar will show us two different shots of two different people wearing purple.

they will keep ignoring rhe obvious

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Peck R. Wood

Fellas, cool down.

It's quite simple.

 

The Forelli, Sindacco and Leone families were not featured in IV. Instead we had 6 new ones: Lupisella, Gambetti, Messina, Pavano, Ancelotti and Pegorino.

So, we still had the Mob, but with different names and figures.

 

I reckon that we might see something similar in V. We can all agree that African-American gangs will be featured, but R* could have given them different names, colors and affiliations.

 

The Ballas thing carved in the bench can be an EE.

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Degrees

I still rather Franklin be an ex Balla. Just gives a different spin.

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Getzmunney
I still rather Franklin be an ex Balla. Just gives a different spin.

Even though the ballas only return in name and color,, (not same gang from 3 era) I wouldve loved this direction aswell

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Saturnis
,Thursday, Nov 15 2012, 07:41]
If CJ never existed, then Grove street never existed either.

 

This is true and it isn't true. Grove Street wouldn't have existed but the Families would have. CJ, Sweet and Big Smoke were leaders of the Grove Street set but it is hinted in game that all the Families sets (Temple Drive, Grove & Seville) were once united as one faction called the Orange Grove Families but split off meaning whether or not CJ, Big Smoke, Ryder, or any other highly regarded member of Grove Street existed or not there would still be the Orange Grove Families regardless.

Not to mention that by that logic, then if Grove street didn't exist, then neither did Vinewood, or Los Santos itself.. So it's irrelevant.. Grove Street could still return.

So south beach doesn't exist in scarface because scarface doesn't exist? That's simply what you're saying. San Andreas in this gta5 world would be equivalent to a movie, taking place in also their fictional city. story lines from this movie won't simply port over to gta5 because that was a representation of it, this has never happened before so it makes no sense for it to happen now. If this is the case then like the man said I want zaibatsu and loonies.

 

I'm not even going to touch the purple guys because this could be anything. He's wearing lakers colors as well. Yes Franklin is wearing a green bandana, because you can can equip different accessories and it happens to be green. Money plays a huge role now what if r* portrays green for this very reason. The people in the drive-by aren't even wearing any colors so why not speak on that?

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Honest Bill

So south beach doesn't exist in scarface because scarface doesn't exist?

How's that anything like what i said though?

 

If somebody says Grove street can't be in the game, because CJ doesn't exist, they are conveniently ignoring the fact that Vinewood and Los Santos itself were a part of CJ's world, and so if they can be in the game then Grove street can be without any additional paradoxes being created. You're the one creating this scenario where San Andreas was like a movie or anything of that kind.

 

And as for the guys in purple, yes they could just be wearing purple for no reason, but it can't be denied that it is a remarkable coincidence and one they put in deliberately. As for the green being representative of money, well that could also be true, but are Michael, or Trevor, or anyone else for that matter depicted with that colour much?

 

And of course i didn't mention the guys not wearing colours as i'm obviously not suggesting that every person in the game will be a Balla or Families member. We're obviously specifically talking about the guys who are wearing colours.

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Getzmunney

 

,Thursday, Nov 15 2012, 07:41]
If CJ never existed, then Grove street never existed either.

 

This is true and it isn't true. Grove Street wouldn't have existed but the Families would have. CJ, Sweet and Big Smoke were leaders of the Grove Street set but it is hinted in game that all the Families sets (Temple Drive, Grove & Seville) were once united as one faction called the Orange Grove Families but split off meaning whether or not CJ, Big Smoke, Ryder, or any other highly regarded member of Grove Street existed or not there would still be the Orange Grove Families regardless.

Not to mention that by that logic, then if Grove street didn't exist, then neither did Vinewood, or Los Santos itself.. So it's irrelevant.. Grove Street could still return.

So south beach doesn't exist in scarface because scarface doesn't exist? That's simply what you're saying. San Andreas in this gta5 world would be equivalent to a movie, taking place in also their fictional city. story lines from this movie won't simply port over to gta5 because that was a representation of it, this has never happened before so it makes no sense for it to happen now. If this is the case then like the man said I want zaibatsu and loonies.

 

I'm not even going to touch the purple guys because this could be anything. He's wearing lakers colors as well. Yes Franklin is wearing a green bandana, because you can can equip different accessories and it happens to be green. Money plays a huge role now what if r* portrays green for this very reason. The people in the drive-by aren't even wearing any colors so why not speak on that?

I cant wait until spring to prove you wrong..Challenge!! biggrin.gif ...But you honestly cant see what the dudes in the drive by are wearing.. Im thinking franklins driving and someone is shooting at that balla while chop is chasing him..Which explains him and chop sliding over same car in next clip...Watch that part of the trailer closely.. pay attention

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Honest Bill

Yeah that's pretty much exactly what it looks like.. They have the dog chase him, while they block him off in the car, and one gets out the drivers side to chase him down after he slides over the bonnet.

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Getzmunney
Yeah that's pretty much exactly what it looks like.. They have the dog chase him, while they block him off in the car, and one gets out the drivers side to chase him down after he slides over the bonnet.

Yep but they will ignore that plain as day evidence aswell and say some dumb sh*t like "they could just be chasing a pedestrian wearing PURPLE in the hood and shooting at him".. I swear these people man

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Celestail

Maybe but the game plot is "Robberies and heist" not gang warfare. So on that note i don't think Ballas/Families are back

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Getzmunney
Maybe but the game plot is "Robberies and heist" not gang warfare

Dude if youve read this post you would know that I understand that. There wont be no gang wars or no dumb sh*t.. Im just providing the back drop for franklins side of things. Why dont people read

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Celestail
Maybe but the game plot is "Robberies and heist" not gang warfare

Dude if youve read this post you would know that I understand that. There wont be no gang wars or no dumb sh*t.. Im just providing the back drop for franklins side of things. Why dont people read

You never stated that mate

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Getzmunney
Maybe but the game plot is "Robberies and heist" not gang warfare

Dude if youve read this post you would know that I understand that. There wont be no gang wars or no dumb sh*t.. Im just providing the back drop for franklins side of things. Why dont people read

You never stated that mate

I believe i did back like a page or two.. But I just put it in my first post to make it clear.

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Getzmunney
Also I doubt they would have someone wearing all purple being chased for no apparent reason. This is Los Santos there will be gangs period.

I don't think anyone is doubting the existence of gangs in GTA V, but what we're saying the evidence is not sufficient enough. I admit the marking holds a bit more weight, but does it even say "Ballas"? I have to be honest it's kind of hard to read.

 

The guy jumping over the hood in purple might aswell from the 3rd Street Saints from what you guys are saying.

 

Anyway lets say you guys are right and they do come back. I don't want GTA V feeling SA set 20 years later and if they're not the same gangs then what's the point calling them be their SA names? Just to tickle to nostalgia bone?

 

Can't R* think of new names like they done with GTA IV?

Part nostalgia and also that could just be rockstars version of crips and bloods on a broad spectrum. Here in L.A. gang activity is still very prevalant.. maybe not as flashy but its definitely still here. I can say confidently by watching the second trailer thay r* have captured this.. No there WONT be any gang wars or no crap like that. But the families and ballas are there. Franklin and lamar just happenes to grow up in a families hood im assuming. Oh and look a little closer at lamar... Hes wearing a DARK GREEN shirt

@ celestial,, I DID say that.. here it is

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0909090

Though gangs are not really main point of storyline, but who knows they might play at least small role in it, I would like to see these street gangs back.

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