Gang Life in Los Santos

[universetwisters]

we really need a san andreas mod which brings gang wars, I mean for PC, the console is screwed.

Doesnt San Andreas already have gang wars?

[Hardcore Savage]

 

Gang Life in Los Santos......

 

 

after 129 real life days is STILL non existent.

I still don't see the fascination with being a gangbanger.

 

I mean, sure, if you wanna act it out in a video game or the likes, but why would anyone want to do it in real life? I don't see what's so appealing about the ghetto to them, especially when the first thing that comes to my mind when I hear "ghetto" is poverty, crime, drugs, and so forth.

 

Ay bruh, can you do me a favor? I would appreciate it if you would stay on topic. Contribute or shut the f*ck up, hoe.

 

 

 

we really need a san andreas mod which brings gang wars, I mean for PC, the console is screwed.

Doesnt San Andreas already have gang wars?

 

No sh*t... He's saying that there should be a GTA V mod that brings in San Andreas gang wars...

[universetwisters]

 

 

 

we really need a san andreas mod which brings gang wars, I mean for PC, the console is screwed.

Doesnt San Andreas already have gang wars?

 

No sh*t... He's saying that there should be a GTA V mod that brings in San Andreas gang wars...

 

 

He didn't say V. I thought he was talking about GTA San Andreas itself, seeing as he never specified which game.

 

And please don't call me a "hoe". That's unnecessary aggression at an outsider's standpoint.

[E•MO•TION]

Lawl.

 

This thread is hilarious, homie.

[universetwisters]

Lawl.

 

This thread is hilarious, homie.

 

I never got what "homie" meant, aswell

[Officer Ronson]

Well if I learned something from tazing all this people its that homie means homeboy.

[universetwisters]

Well if I learned something from tazing all this people its that homie means homeboy.

 

And what exactly is a "homeboy"? Someone who lives at home?

[Raavi]

This thread isn't to discuss gang-lingo, your opinion on a gang lifestyle or spout some closet-racist tripe. Nay, this thread is to discuss Gangs in Los Santos and Blaine County, please get back on-topic or don't bother posting here.

Edited February 8, 2014 by Raavi

[universetwisters]

This thread isn't to discuss gang-lingo, your opinion on a gang lifestyle or spout some closet-racist tripe. Nay, this thread is to discuss Gangs in Los Santos and Blaine County, please get back on-topic or don't bother posting here.

Okey dokes, I'll be sure to keep my questions to myself or in another thread.

 

OT: Does Michael react to gangs around Grove Street? I know if Franklin interacts with them, they usually call him out for being from the Families. If Trevor interacts with them, I remember he'd call them "sissies" or something and call them girls dressed in matching colors. I haven't been there as Michael, though, so I wouldn't know how he would react.

[Detective Phelps]

I feel sorry for the CGF. They lost grove street. Looks like the ballas managed to overcome their disaster in the 90s.

 

The Vagos are also worth a mention. Those idiots are always shooting up places. They are the most dangerous game in LS, and I, the chief of the LSPD, will crackdown on them! Even Haines mentioned the vagos' gun crazy attitude on his show.

[universetwisters]

I feel sorry for the CGF. They lost grove street. Looks like the ballas managed to overcome their disaster in the 90s.

 

The Vagos are also worth a mention. Those idiots are always shooting up places. They are the most dangerous game in LS, and I, the chief of the LSPD, will crackdown on them! Even Haines mentioned the vagos' gun crazy attitude on his show.

You're the chief of the LSPD?

 

I haven't encountered the Vagos much, at least plot-wise. Hell, I think out of all the gangs in V, the Vagos are the only ones that didn't serve a role in the plot, outside of that one rampage from Trevor.

[Detective Phelps]

 

I feel sorry for the CGF. They lost grove street. Looks like the ballas managed to overcome their disaster in the 90s.

 

The Vagos are also worth a mention. Those idiots are always shooting up places. They are the most dangerous game in LS, and I, the chief of the LSPD, will crackdown on them! Even Haines mentioned the vagos' gun crazy attitude on his show.

You're the chief of the LSPD?

Yes I am.

 

 

The vagos mainly keep to their hood, that's where all the shootings they do take place.

[universetwisters]

 

 

I feel sorry for the CGF. They lost grove street. Looks like the ballas managed to overcome their disaster in the 90s.

 

The Vagos are also worth a mention. Those idiots are always shooting up places. They are the most dangerous game in LS, and I, the chief of the LSPD, will crackdown on them! Even Haines mentioned the vagos' gun crazy attitude on his show.

You're the chief of the LSPD?

Yes I am.

 

 

The vagos mainly keep to their hood, that's where all the shootings they do take place.

 

You got any valid forms of ID you're the chief

 

It seems funny how Rockstar puts in this gang, appears to add detail into them, all that stuff, only for them not to play a role in the game outside of a rampage.

[coolznio]

GTA In london?

 

tha f*cks going to happen? Get 5 stars and have scotland yard chase me?

 

smh yalls gangs are not like ours... no ones is... ive had this dude from Indonesia talk about how all they have are these bike gangs that ride around and play loud music... no gunplay at all... and he is honestly scared of america...

 

yeah, i've been in indonesia & saw some sh*tty bike gangs failed to rob minimarket because they just bringin knife which is pretty useless, lol

 

GTA In london?

 

tha f*cks going to happen? Get 5 stars and have scotland yard chase me?

 

It would probably go like this:

 

 

 

sorry couldn't resist. moving along now

 

f*ck, that sh*t's funny

Edited February 8, 2014 by coolznio

[Detective Phelps]

 

 

 

I feel sorry for the CGF. They lost grove street. Looks like the ballas managed to overcome their disaster in the 90s.

 

The Vagos are also worth a mention. Those idiots are always shooting up places. They are the most dangerous game in LS, and I, the chief of the LSPD, will crackdown on them! Even Haines mentioned the vagos' gun crazy attitude on his show.

You're the chief of the LSPD?

Yes I am.

 

 

The vagos mainly keep to their hood, that's where all the shootings they do take place.

 

You got any valid forms of ID you're the chief

 

It seems funny how Rockstar puts in this gang, appears to add detail into them, all that stuff, only for them not to play a role in the game outside of a rampage.

 

You see the badge?

 

There should have been a bigger involvement of the gangs in the story, especially for Franklin.

 

Also, the vagos were also in that repo mission near the beginning, remember? Well, that and the rampage is the only time they're really in the story.

[universetwisters]

 

 

 

 

I feel sorry for the CGF. They lost grove street. Looks like the ballas managed to overcome their disaster in the 90s.

 

The Vagos are also worth a mention. Those idiots are always shooting up places. They are the most dangerous game in LS, and I, the chief of the LSPD, will crackdown on them! Even Haines mentioned the vagos' gun crazy attitude on his show.

You're the chief of the LSPD?

Yes I am.

 

 

The vagos mainly keep to their hood, that's where all the shootings they do take place.

 

You got any valid forms of ID you're the chief

 

It seems funny how Rockstar puts in this gang, appears to add detail into them, all that stuff, only for them not to play a role in the game outside of a rampage.

 

You see the badge?

 

There should have been a bigger involvement of the gangs in the story, especially for Franklin.

 

Also, the vagos were also in that repo mission near the beginning, remember? Well, that and the rampage is the only time they're really in the story.

 

sh*t, I forgot all about the repo mission

[Detective Phelps]

@Universetwisters Yeah, I just remembered it since I knew that the Vagos were in more than just a rampage.

[Official General]

It really hurts me that Hispanic gangs played no real role in this game. There could have been some great stuff that drew on the real-life beef between Hispanic and Black gangs, and the important Mexican drug cartel-Sureno Hispanic gang connection. Or the beef between various rival Surenos sets, and the influence of Hispanic prison gangs in the streets (Mexican mafia/La Eme).

 

What a big waste.

 

@ universetwisters

 

 

I still don't see the fascination with being a gangbanger.

I mean, sure, if you wanna act it out in a video game or the likes, but why would anyone want to do it in real life? I don't see what's so appealing about the ghetto to them, especially when the first thing that comes to my mind when I hear "ghetto" is poverty, crime, drugs, and so forth.

 

I'm pretty sure we've discussed this before.

 

Many young guys in U.S. ghettos do NOT become gang members because it's appears to be exciting, thrilling, cool, or fascinating, that is far from always being the case. Most of these young guys joining gangs do so because that's what they are born into it - they grow up in the impoverished, harsh and dangerous environments that breed these gangs. They see the guns, shootings, killings, violence, drugs, etc, and they become used to it all. Plus many of them come from broken families and homes, they don't have the right guidance and role models, and there is also a misguided need for a sense of belonging and being part of something 'special'. On top of that, many young guys have seen their close family members killed in gang wars, and the desire for vengeance is also a very important reason for joining a gang. Then there is the issue of money - most of these guys in the ghetto live in very poor neighborhoods and they generally come from poor or low-income families, so another added benefit of joining a gang is also a way to alleviate the poverty that they have been used to, by making quick money selling drugs, as illegal drug sales are the main income source for these gangs.

 

The people who find gang stuff and the like fascinating are people who have never experienced it, know very little about it, never knew anyone who was involved in it, and never lived anywhere where it's present. The main reasons being, that they find it fascinating and interesting to know how young people can live and survive in such a cutthroat society and environment, where violence is constant, and the element of mortal danger is always around the corner, keeping everyone within that world always on edge and on guard. I can definitely understand why non-gang members would find it fascinating.

Edited February 8, 2014 by Official General

[universetwisters]

It really hurts me that Hispanic gangs played no real role in this game. There could have been some great stuff that drew on the real-life beef between Hispanic and Black gangs, and the important Mexican drug cartel-Sureno Hispanic gang connection. Or the beef between various rival Surenos sets, and the influence of Hispanic prison gangs in the streets (Mexican mafia/La Eme).

 

What a big waste.

 

Wouldn't you be able to call Martin Madrazo's gang a hispanic gang?

[[µT]]

 

This thread isn't to discuss gang-lingo, your opinion on a gang lifestyle or spout some closet-racist tripe. Nay, this thread is to discuss Gangs in Los Santos and Blaine County, please get back on-topic or don't bother posting here.

Okey dokes, I'll be sure to keep my questions to myself or in another thread.

 

OT: Does Michael react to gangs around Grove Street? I know if Franklin interacts with them, they usually call him out for being from the Families. If Trevor interacts with them, I remember he'd call them "sissies" or something and call them girls dressed in matching colors. I haven't been there as Michael, though, so I wouldn't know how he would react.

 

Michael tends to try to mind his own business when it comes to the gangs.. usually just saying "be cool".. i went to Chamberlain Hills and spoke with a Families member and he said "be cool, we have friends in common" or something like that

 

And Martin's gang makes only a few appearances in the game and after they're only seen guarding his house as far as I know, never anywhere else.

 

What's unbelievable to me is that even after all these patches and updates they still haven't fixed the gang AI.. you'll still find a CGF member walking calmly into Grove St and the ballas wont even acknowledge his existence. How did they get it right in a game released nearly 10 years ago but can't take 5 minutes out of their day to set the gang relationships stats properly in this "revolutionary" game.. stupid

[universetwisters]

 

What's unbelievable to me is that even after all these patches and updates they still haven't fixed the gang AI.. you'll still find a CGF member walking calmly into Grove St and the ballas wont even acknowledge his existence. How did they get it right in a game released nearly 10 years ago but can't take 5 minutes out of their day to set the gang relationships stats properly in this "revolutionary" game.. stupid

 

 

Do street gangs in real life flip sh*t and start shooting at people who just wander in that wear rival colors?

[Official General]

 

It really hurts me that Hispanic gangs played no real role in this game. There could have been some great stuff that drew on the real-life beef between Hispanic and Black gangs, and the important Mexican drug cartel-Sureno Hispanic gang connection. Or the beef between various rival Surenos sets, and the influence of Hispanic prison gangs in the streets (Mexican mafia/La Eme).

 

What a big waste.

 

Wouldn't you be able to call Martin Madrazo's gang a hispanic gang?

 

 

Nah not at all. Madrazo's crime organization is best described as a drug cartel or drug organization, they are different in structure and dynamics to a gang.

 

Do street gangs in real life flip sh*t and start shooting at people who just wander in that wear rival colors?

 

Yep, sometimes they do, but it happens much less often than it did back in the days when LA street gang rivalry was at it's peak between the early 1990s to the early and mid 2000s. And it's not juts at anybody either, if they do it, it's more likely to be directed at someone who clearly looks like a rival gang member in rival colors. However, tragedies of innocent people getting killed do occur unfortunately.

Edited February 8, 2014 by Official General

[[µT]]

 

 

What's unbelievable to me is that even after all these patches and updates they still haven't fixed the gang AI.. you'll still find a CGF member walking calmly into Grove St and the ballas wont even acknowledge his existence. How did they get it right in a game released nearly 10 years ago but can't take 5 minutes out of their day to set the gang relationships stats properly in this "revolutionary" game.. stupid

 

 

Do street gangs in real life flip sh*t and start shooting at people who just wander in that wear rival colors?

 

 

Not necessarily, but if you're known as a rival wearing a clothing associated with a rival gang in the heart of their turf you're at the very least gonna get checked, probably catch a fade and possibly shot if the rivalry is that intense

 

this happened in San Andreas too, for instance Grove Street Families and the Ballas rivalry was real intense, they would jack a Balla right out of his car and shoot him on the spot. All confrontations between Grove and Ballas resulted in gunfire. Grove Street and Vagos rivalry was much less intense, Grove Street members wouldn't attack Vagos on sight but they'd run up and approach them if some had wandered off into their turf and after some time of sh*t talking they may shoot, beat them up or let him walk if he leaves the area

 

there were 4 gang reactions in SA.. all LS gangs except Grove St. were "3" to CJ, meaning they'd approach before shooting and may give you a pass if you leave, Grove vs Ballas were "4" meaning kill on sight, Grove to CJ was "1" meaning they are allies and only if you provoke them enough they'll shoot, "2" was they ignore you unless you cause trouble.

 

It seems to me in GTA V that all the gang by default are set to "2", which means they ignore each other until something pops off and you as the player always have to initiate it.

[universetwisters]

 

Do street gangs in real life flip sh*t and start shooting at people who just wander in that wear rival colors?

 

Yep, sometimes they do, but it happens much less often than it did back in the days when LA street gang rivalry was at it's peak between the early 1990s to the early and mid 2000s. And it's not juts at anybody either, if they do it, it's more likely to be directed at someone who clearly looks like a rival gang member in rival colors. However, tragedies of innocent people getting killed do occur unfortunately.

 

 

What would constitute as looking like a rival gang member, though? Just wearing shoe laces in a rival color or literal rival color bodypaint?

[Detective Phelps]

 

 

This thread isn't to discuss gang-lingo, your opinion on a gang lifestyle or spout some closet-racist tripe. Nay, this thread is to discuss Gangs in Los Santos and Blaine County, please get back on-topic or don't bother posting here.

Okey dokes, I'll be sure to keep my questions to myself or in another thread.

 

OT: Does Michael react to gangs around Grove Street? I know if Franklin interacts with them, they usually call him out for being from the Families. If Trevor interacts with them, I remember he'd call them "sissies" or something and call them girls dressed in matching colors. I haven't been there as Michael, though, so I wouldn't know how he would react.

 

What's unbelievable to me is that even after all these patches and updates they still haven't fixed the gang AI.. you'll still find a CGF member walking calmly into Grove St and the ballas wont even acknowledge his existence.

Hey, maybe the gang member is like stretch, and is collaborating with the ballas.

[Official General]

 

 

Do street gangs in real life flip sh*t and start shooting at people who just wander in that wear rival colors?

 

Yep, sometimes they do, but it happens much less often than it did back in the days when LA street gang rivalry was at it's peak between the early 1990s to the early and mid 2000s. And it's not juts at anybody either, if they do it, it's more likely to be directed at someone who clearly looks like a rival gang member in rival colors. However, tragedies of innocent people getting killed do occur unfortunately.

 

 

What would constitute as looking like a rival gang member, though? Just wearing shoe laces in a rival color or literal rival color bodypaint?

 

 

Bro, I can't give you specifics, I'm not a gang member or ex-gang member. No disrespect, but use your brain, you don't appear or sound that dumb or stupid.

 

And by the way, if you are being sarcastic, poking fun at the subject (because you find gang culture stupid or whatever) and are incapable of having a serious discussion about this, then just end it here and we can move on.

[universetwisters]

 

 

 

Do street gangs in real life flip sh*t and start shooting at people who just wander in that wear rival colors?

 

Yep, sometimes they do, but it happens much less often than it did back in the days when LA street gang rivalry was at it's peak between the early 1990s to the early and mid 2000s. And it's not juts at anybody either, if they do it, it's more likely to be directed at someone who clearly looks like a rival gang member in rival colors. However, tragedies of innocent people getting killed do occur unfortunately.

 

 

What would constitute as looking like a rival gang member, though? Just wearing shoe laces in a rival color or literal rival color bodypaint?

 

 

Bro, I can't give you specifics, I'm not a gang member or ex-gang member. No disrespect, but use your brain, you don't appear or sound that dumb or stupid.

 

And by the way, if you are being sarcastic, poking fun at the subject (because you find gang culture stupid or whatever) and are incapable of having a serious discussion about this, then just end it here and we can move on.

 

 

I'm not being sarcastic. I'm legit curious.

 

I don't come from an area with many gangs, either. Sure in Daytona, you've got some small-time stuff, but nothing like the bloods/crips

[Fallcreek]

What would constitute as looking like a rival gang member, though? Just wearing shoe laces in a rival color or literal rival color bodypaint?

Lamar actually explains it too Trevor during 'Hood Safari'. Gangbangers aren't really wearing their set's colour from head to toe anymore, that was some 90's sh*t lol. Now it's just ..something you sense, even though it may be wrong. They might wear a green shirt, with green laces, or maybe put a green bandana somewhere visable on them to show that they're putting down for their set, stuff like that.

Edited February 8, 2014 by Fallcreek

[Official General]

 

 

 

 

Do street gangs in real life flip sh*t and start shooting at people who just wander in that wear rival colors?

 

Yep, sometimes they do, but it happens much less often than it did back in the days when LA street gang rivalry was at it's peak between the early 1990s to the early and mid 2000s. And it's not juts at anybody either, if they do it, it's more likely to be directed at someone who clearly looks like a rival gang member in rival colors. However, tragedies of innocent people getting killed do occur unfortunately.

 

 

What would constitute as looking like a rival gang member, though? Just wearing shoe laces in a rival color or literal rival color bodypaint?

 

 

Bro, I can't give you specifics, I'm not a gang member or ex-gang member. No disrespect, but use your brain, you don't appear or sound that dumb or stupid.

 

And by the way, if you are being sarcastic, poking fun at the subject (because you find gang culture stupid or whatever) and are incapable of having a serious discussion about this, then just end it here and we can move on.

 

 

I'm not being sarcastic. I'm legit curious.

 

I don't come from an area with many gangs, either. Sure in Daytona, you've got some small-time stuff, but nothing like the bloods/crips

 

 

That's the fascination with gang culture, you identified it right there. Being in the hood, most average you see there will look more or less the same, sometimes color-coded clothing won't always identify a potential enemy, which is why gang members are always on edge, always on guard, and always armed with a gun. The element of danger and death is always around, and one has to keep a sharp eye to spot rivals, and a controlled state of mind to survive everyday in the hood.That one simple mistake that leads to failure to recognize a rival gang member could mean being slow on draw and getting killed instantly in a shootout. Sometimes a rival gang member will throw up their own gang sign for a response as a test if they are not totally sure that the person they have encountered is a rival gang member - if that person throws up an enemy gang gang sign, then a shootout or fight will erupt. If that person shows a friendly gang sign, then it's all good. If that person can show a friendly gang sign and still be an enemy, then it's case of real bad luck for that gang member who was fooled, unless he can be quicker to draw first.

Edited February 8, 2014 by Official General

[universetwisters]

 

 

 

 

 

Do street gangs in real life flip sh*t and start shooting at people who just wander in that wear rival colors?

 

Yep, sometimes they do, but it happens much less often than it did back in the days when LA street gang rivalry was at it's peak between the early 1990s to the early and mid 2000s. And it's not juts at anybody either, if they do it, it's more likely to be directed at someone who clearly looks like a rival gang member in rival colors. However, tragedies of innocent people getting killed do occur unfortunately.

 

 

What would constitute as looking like a rival gang member, though? Just wearing shoe laces in a rival color or literal rival color bodypaint?

 

 

Bro, I can't give you specifics, I'm not a gang member or ex-gang member. No disrespect, but use your brain, you don't appear or sound that dumb or stupid.

 

And by the way, if you are being sarcastic, poking fun at the subject (because you find gang culture stupid or whatever) and are incapable of having a serious discussion about this, then just end it here and we can move on.

 

 

I'm not being sarcastic. I'm legit curious.

 

I don't come from an area with many gangs, either. Sure in Daytona, you've got some small-time stuff, but nothing like the bloods/crips

 

 

That's the fascination with gang culture, you identified it right there. Being in the hood, most average you see there will look more or less the same, sometimes color-coded clothing won't always identify a potential enemy, which is why gang members are always on edge, always on guard, and always armed with a gun. The element of danger and death is always around, and one has to keep a sharp eye to spot rivals, and a controlled state of mind to survive everyday in the hood.That one simple mistake that leads to failure to recognize a rival gang member could mean being slow on draw and getting killed instantly in a shootout.

 

 

So all the color-coding and stuff doesn't happen in real life, it's mostly a media thing?