PC Version of GTA V Discussion

[tadejpetric]

Consoles are just a very cheap low-leven crap, a very too closed systems, a very closed PC.

Get the disc, stick it in and start Press to start a game. What kind of sh*t is that?

Consoles are only good for cheap low life people, flashing their sh*tty box and start pirating the hell out of it.

 

PC, you can do much more on it. you've got the full freedom on what you want to do with it.

You can upgrade and all. Currently I have an 4 and half years old laptop which is eating dust now.

It was really good back in 2009 and it could play GTAIV very decent without lag on medium settings.

When the time has come to build a new PC, it will have i7-4770, MSI GTX780 Lightning or EVGA GTX780 ACX,

16GB RAM DDR3 1600MHz and AsRock Fatal1ty Z87. I'm not sure about the PSU, does anyone recommend

me a much better one?

I use heavy tasks like Photoshop, Firefox and 3D editing program in the background and usig them all.

And also listening to music and watching movies. So the i7-4770 is great CPU for all running all these tasks at the same time.

 

Master race? Nope, not with all the needs I need to do all these heavy tasks.

4GB is nothing anymore these days and you know how much RAM Firefox eats and many other tasks.

A piece of old sh*t junk is laying on the ground which has the PS3 letters/logo on it.

Damn, I want a dog so he can piss and sh*t on it. I want to puke on it. It's embarrasing to have this pile of black sh*t

laying in my house xD

I say something from corsair TX or AX series. AX better but TX 750-850W is very, very good too.

But awesome build I rather upgrade it since after DX12 is out you need new GPU to support it. But its awesome build anyway.

 

For the RAM im using 1,92GB with OS and 6 chrome tabs open.

[Acek]

I say something from corsair TX or AX series. AX better but TX 750-850W is very, very good too.

But awesome build I rather upgrade it since after DX12 is out you need new GPU to support it. But its awesome build anyway.

 

For the RAM im using 1,92GB with OS and 6 chrome tabs open.

 

 

my chrome is using 1.6 gigs and os and the rest 1 gig xD

[SilverRST]

 

Consoles are just a very cheap low-leven crap, a very too closed systems, a very closed PC.

Get the disc, stick it in and start Press to start a game. What kind of sh*t is that?

Consoles are only good for cheap low life people, flashing their sh*tty box and start pirating the hell out of it.

 

PC, you can do much more on it. you've got the full freedom on what you want to do with it.

You can upgrade and all. Currently I have an 4 and half years old laptop which is eating dust now.

It was really good back in 2009 and it could play GTAIV very decent without lag on medium settings.

When the time has come to build a new PC, it will have i7-4770, MSI GTX780 Lightning or EVGA GTX780 ACX,

16GB RAM DDR3 1600MHz and AsRock Fatal1ty Z87. I'm not sure about the PSU, does anyone recommend

me a much better one?

I use heavy tasks like Photoshop, Firefox and 3D editing program in the background and usig them all.

And also listening to music and watching movies. So the i7-4770 is great CPU for all running all these tasks at the same time.

 

Master race? Nope, not with all the needs I need to do all these heavy tasks.

4GB is nothing anymore these days and you know how much RAM Firefox eats and many other tasks.

A piece of old sh*t junk is laying on the ground which has the PS3 letters/logo on it.

Damn, I want a dog so he can piss and sh*t on it. I want to puke on it. It's embarrasing to have this pile of black sh*t

laying in my house xD

I say something from corsair TX or AX series. AX better but TX 750-850W is very, very good too.

But awesome build I rather upgrade it since after DX12 is out you need new GPU to support it. But its awesome build anyway.

 

For the RAM im using 1,92GB with OS and 6 chrome tabs open.

 

Ok thanks. What are the difference between modular and non-modular PSU?

 

Almost 2GB for OS and 6 Chrome tabs. Well, I haven't checked how much RAM is needed

for Firefox with 75 tabs open, Photoshop 8, Zmodeler2 and Windows Media Player.

It should be all easy for this little f*cker, i7-4770 and 16GB.

 

I don't see any need for DX12, I don't want to be forced to have Windows 8. I hate it.

Windows 7, ftw!

[tadejpetric]

£400 is a bit under 500€ here are my recommendations with the prices in my area:

• i5 for about 200€
• 8GB of ram for about 70€ (can be upgraded later with ease)
• gtx 660 or radeon hd7870 for about 200€
• mothherboard for about 100€ with support for 32gb of ram
• psu for 50€

that 620€ with some rounded prices, so maybe save up a little bit.. that should be good for a while..

From a quick search i found out that you can get computer goods a tiny bit cheaper in the UK than here and finding the best store helps with price.. plus i only pulled those from my ass in five minutes so you can optimize the build if you really want one..

best part: you can upgrade later if you got more cash to spend

 

lol no

thats 700$/€ build w/ out OS (I got a beast like that and it cost me 850€ with win 7 HP 64bit SLO)

 

I say :

i3 for 100$

8GB 1600MHz ram for 70$

HD 7770 for 100$

random case for 30$

1TB HDD 7200rpm for 70$ (90$ for 2TB) (like WD blue)

asus p8b75 for 70$

cx600 for 60$ (600W for upgrades)

 

Now thats about 500$ without OS. If you want OS in the price, just replace HD 7770 for windows 7 (8s crap IMO).

[Nemon]

Ok thanks. What are the difference between modular and non-modular PSU?

 

 

Modular means you can detach and attach the power cables you need. It's very useful in keeping your cabinet neat and tidy.

[Andreas]

So, I just purchased Max Payne 3. I'm curious how well it will run. I have an Intel Core i5 4670K, 8GB of RAM and a Gigabyte GeForce GTX460 1GB OC. GTA IV runs on high to very high settings, draw- and detail distance at 100, and vehicle density at 60 with around 40 FPS at average.

Edited September 28, 2013 by Carl CJ Johnsons Brother Brian

[SilverRST]

 

Ok thanks. What are the difference between modular and non-modular PSU?

 

 

Modular means you can detach and attach the power cables you need. It's very useful in keeping your cabinet neat and tidy.

 

Thanks a lot.

[tadejpetric]

 

 

Consoles are just a very cheap low-leven crap, a very too closed systems, a very closed PC.

Get the disc, stick it in and start Press to start a game. What kind of sh*t is that?

Consoles are only good for cheap low life people, flashing their sh*tty box and start pirating the hell out of it.

 

PC, you can do much more on it. you've got the full freedom on what you want to do with it.

You can upgrade and all. Currently I have an 4 and half years old laptop which is eating dust now.

It was really good back in 2009 and it could play GTAIV very decent without lag on medium settings.

When the time has come to build a new PC, it will have i7-4770, MSI GTX780 Lightning or EVGA GTX780 ACX,

16GB RAM DDR3 1600MHz and AsRock Fatal1ty Z87. I'm not sure about the PSU, does anyone recommend

me a much better one?

I use heavy tasks like Photoshop, Firefox and 3D editing program in the background and usig them all.

And also listening to music and watching movies. So the i7-4770 is great CPU for all running all these tasks at the same time.

 

Master race? Nope, not with all the needs I need to do all these heavy tasks.

4GB is nothing anymore these days and you know how much RAM Firefox eats and many other tasks.

A piece of old sh*t junk is laying on the ground which has the PS3 letters/logo on it.

Damn, I want a dog so he can piss and sh*t on it. I want to puke on it. It's embarrasing to have this pile of black sh*t

laying in my house xD

I say something from corsair TX or AX series. AX better but TX 750-850W is very, very good too.

But awesome build I rather upgrade it since after DX12 is out you need new GPU to support it. But its awesome build anyway.

 

For the RAM im using 1,92GB with OS and 6 chrome tabs open.

 

Ok thanks. What are the difference between modular and non-modular PSU?

 

Almost 2GB for OS and 6 Chrome tabs. Well, I haven't checked how much RAM is needed

for Firefox with 75 tabs open, Photoshop 8, Zmodeler2 and Windows Media Player.

It should be all easy for this little f*cker, i7-4770 and 16GB.

 

I don't see any need for DX12, I don't want to be forced to have Windows 8. I hate it.

Windows 7, ftw!

 

On modular you can unplug cables from PSU while you have to have them in case all the time in non modular.(just refreshed and saw someone said it already)

 

Out of 1,92GB of RAM using, theres 0,02GB usage for 10 chrome tabs. Lets say that firefox uses 1GB for 500 tabs (lol), 1,9GB for OS, 2GB for zmodeler (btw I like 3ds max and maya more), 1GB for media player and 2 GB for photoshop. Note that zmodelers and photoshops ram can go higher at heavier use but 16 should be enough.

 

Win 7 FTW

Edited September 28, 2013 by tadejpetric

[tadejpetric]

So, I just purchased Max Payne 3. I'm curious how well it will run. I have an Intel Core i5 4670K, 8GB of RAM and a Gigabyte GeForce GTX460 1GB OC. GTA IV runs on high to very high settings, draw- and detail distance at 100, and vehicle density at 60 with around 40 FPS at average.

about 30 FPS maxed (maybe less but about it).

 

BTW its a great game, just completed it yesterday. Story is awesome, graphics are awesome, guns are awesome, MP is awesome, optimization is awesome... Worth it

[Spider-Vice]

 

So, I just purchased Max Payne 3. I'm curious how well it will run. I have an Intel Core i5 4670K, 8GB of RAM and a Gigabyte GeForce GTX460 1GB OC. GTA IV runs on high to very high settings, draw- and detail distance at 100, and vehicle density at 60 with around 40 FPS at average.

about 30 FPS maxed (maybe less but about it).

 

BTW its a great game, just completed it yesterday. Story is awesome, graphics are awesome, guns are awesome, MP is awesome, optimization is awesome... Worth it

 

I have a Core 2 Quad and an HD6870 and it runs maxed out at pretty much more than 30 FPS. Not counting MSAA though because MSAA on top of FXAA seems a bit pointless. With MSAA maxed out then yes it'll lag more.

[PaYnE18]

Trust me guys, I'm not trying to cause arguments or problems here. Believe me, if I could afford the components, I would build my own computer and play GTA V on that, as well as get the PS4 version, if one ever comes.

 

I am hoping to get a more powerful desktop in the future, preferably with an i7, 6-8 GB RAM and a decent GPU, because to be quite honest, I feel I've earned myself one.

You don't need an i7 lol, if you are just a gamer then an i5 is more than enough, look at my signature this CPU is like 200$ on Amazon, and the 8 GB Ram is like 70-80$ ( it was even cheaper when I bought some Corsair Vengeance 8 GB )

[uJhatafart00]

What's the deal with releasing a game first on consoles and then on PC? I mean, i know they are going to double earnings in that way, but why just R* does that?

I can't find any other top SH acting like that. All the biggest games who comes to my mind like CoDs, Battlefields, FIFAs, NBA2ks, ACs, Watch Dogs etc, all came/comes/will come at the same time for all platforms (i'm talking about this generation obv).

 

I don't get why R* has still that mentality, seriously...

[Whiteox_1st]

By reading through.. it seems this thread has gone offtopic.. just a tad >_>

[SilverRST]

What's the deal with releasing a game first on consoles and then on PC? I mean, i know they are going to double earnings in that way, but why just R* does that?

I can't find any other top SH acting like that. All the biggest games who comes to my mind like CoDs, Battlefields, FIFAs, NBA2ks, ACs, Watch Dogs etc, all came/comes/will come at the same time for all platforms (i'm talking about this generation obv).

 

I don't get why R* has still that mentality, seriously...

The truth is, that R* are the biggest and most moneyhookers ever exists.

Microsoft and Sony are they pimps and customers, and those both takes R* up their asses.

[_Kindled_]

Doesn't 3DS Max include tessellation? If so, I've thought of something.

[Andreas]

The truth is, that R* are the biggest and most moneyhookers ever exists.

Microsoft and Sony are they pimps and customers, and those both takes R* up their asses.

I usually don't care about posts like this one, but seriously, that's just childish now. Rockstar is at least one of the few developers out there who do care about the quality of their games. I am a PC gamer myself, I do not have a console, and I'm basically in the same situation as you. But blaming them for delaying the game on your prefered platform is just pointless. They showed with Max Payne 3 that they at least try to glose the gaps between the release of a particular title throughout several platforms. They didn't manage to make the release of GTAV on PC happen as soon as it happened with their previous title, but we at least know that this game will not be a port on the PC platform.

 

That alone shows that Rockstar did in fact learn something in all the years. If the release happens sooner than the usual 5 to 8 months gap, it's even more evidence that they do care about their fans, no matter what their platform preference is. The PC version of V is probably developed by a seperate studio, like past games of the series, and not by Rockstar North, which would kind of explain why it's pushed back. We at least know that game is not a shoddy port on PC, it receives the same treatment as MP3.

 

Stop blaming Rockstar for not having released the game on PC on September 17th. It will eventually arrive for PC, all we need is an announcement which will probably happen soon.

[SilverRST]

Doesn't 3DS Max include tessellation? If so, I've thought of something.

That tool called "Turbosmooth" or "Meshsmooth"

[Albert Kike]

the point is V graphics is considered crap or at best just 'okay' no matter what, because it's still using engine built for old consoles... o wait... that's my point.

 

 

 

GTA V's graphics are considered 'crap'? Hmmm, that's news to me. I'm a PC graphics whore to the max, and I think it looks pretty amazing even on 6 -7 year consoles.

[SilverRST]

 

The truth is, that R* are the biggest and most moneyhookers ever exists.

Microsoft and Sony are they pimps and customers, and those both takes R* up their asses.

I usually don't care about posts like this one, but seriously, that's just childish now. Rockstar is at least one of the few developers out there who do care about the quality of their games. I am a PC gamer myself, I do not have a console, and I'm basically in the same situation as you. But blaming them for delaying the game on your prefered platform is just pointless. They showed with Max Payne 3 that they at least try to glose the gaps between the release of a particular title throughout several platforms. They didn't manage to make the release of GTAV on PC happen as soon as it happened with their previous title, but we at least know that this game will not be a port on the PC platform.

 

That alone shows that Rockstar did in fact learn something in all the years. If the release happens sooner than the usual 5 to 8 months gap, it's even more evidence that they do care about their fans, no matter what their platform preference is. The PC version of V is probably developed by a seperate studio, like past games of the series, and not by Rockstar North, which would kind of explain why it's pushed back. We at least know that game is not a shoddy port on PC, it receives the same treatment as MP3.

 

Stop blaming Rockstar for not having released the game on PC on September 17th. It will eventually arrive for PC, all we need is an announcement which will probably happen soon.

 

I know man, I know haha. That reply was not intended to be serious. I was just some kind of joking and making such,

as you said, childish reply. I mean, read back what I said haha.

However, I really hope the PC gets all the content being cut out for GTA Online for SP. It probably won't happen.

[Lemans]

 

Doesn't 3DS Max include tessellation? If so, I've thought of something.

That tool called "Turbosmooth" or "Meshsmooth"

 

There's also a modifier called Tessellate.

[r34ld34l]

 

£400 is a bit under 500€ here are my recommendations with the prices in my area:

• i5 for about 200€
• 8GB of ram for about 70€ (can be upgraded later with ease)
• gtx 660 or radeon hd7870 for about 200€
• mothherboard for about 100€ with support for 32gb of ram
• psu for 50€

that 620€ with some rounded prices, so maybe save up a little bit.. that should be good for a while..

From a quick search i found out that you can get computer goods a tiny bit cheaper in the UK than here and finding the best store helps with price.. plus i only pulled those from my ass in five minutes so you can optimize the build if you really want one..

best part: you can upgrade later if you got more cash to spend

 

lol no

thats 700$/€ build w/ out OS (I got a beast like that and it cost me 850€ with win 7 HP 64bit SLO)

 

I say :

i3 for 100$

8GB 1600MHz ram for 70$

HD 7770 for 100$

random case for 30$

1TB HDD 7200rpm for 70$ (90$ for 2TB) (like WD blue)

asus p8b75 for 70$

cx600 for 60$ (600W for upgrades)

 

Now thats about 500$ without OS. If you want OS in the price, just replace HD 7770 for windows 7 (8s crap IMO).

 

Personally if I would have that amount of spendable amount, I would rather wait a month or a two and then buy i5 and better GPU and went with 550W PSU and 1333MHz RAM. You don't need over 550W for single GPU, there is no point in having SLI or Crossfire if you have i3 and that MB.

Edited September 28, 2013 by r34ld34l

[lh1]

http://us.gamespot.com/news/china-lifts-13-year-console-ban-6415060

Now this is interesting, game companies would no longer use the "PC Pirates" as excuse soon, I guess haha.

[_Kindled_]

 

Doesn't 3DS Max include tessellation? If so, I've thought of something.

That tool called "Turbosmooth" or "Meshsmooth"

 

Remember this video?

 

Don't get me wrong, at first, at first I thought it was real. All apart from that rapidly moving sun.

I remember when R* was looking for hire for PC professionals.

 

We've got but a few months left. And R* could very well use some help from this profess right here.

I'm sure some or even most games we play today are made with the assist of 3DS Max. Imagine how much the game could improve. I really want to find who this "FranSNK3D" guy is so I can ask him what he's thinking of doing next.

 

Last time he's made a video was in June, 19, 3 months ago. And he's most-likely gone quite. He might have another channel. For his personal or animation needs. So, then I found a new guy. His name is Henry Strong. http://henrystrong.net/ He renders his stuff using Vray. Although I can't really comapre his animations to Fran's, he's still very artistic. Check out his stuff below;

 

 

Obviously, R* needs people like this guy. Imagine that big step from now.

 

Now, this was probably my favorite video to date. I check there almost every week, when I'm bored.

Now, it could very well set an example for GTA VI, too. But, again, we are but a few months away. I'm not even sure whether next gen looks this good.

 

(By the way, does anyone know how to post videos the right way?)

 

EDIT: Speaking of Turbosmooth and meshsmooth...

This is what gaming companies struggle today. This is what companies, eventually could learn. Those hard jagged edges.

Edited September 28, 2013 by _Kindled_

[TheAdmiester]

Gaming companies don't struggle with jagged edges, they settle for them. Having insanely turbosmoothed objects would just make your GPU curl up and die. There's only so many polygons you can render at one time and still have it render in real time.

[r34ld34l]

 

youtube link 

Like this.

 

 

Gaming companies don't struggle with jagged edges, they settle for them. Having insanely turbosmoothed objects would just make your GPU curl up and die. There's only so many polygons you can render at one time and still have it render in real time.

It wouldn't die, it would slow down dramatically. It would die or crash if you would have bad PSU with not enought Amps over 12V rail. Also check Star Citizen, there is a millions of polygons there.

Edited September 28, 2013 by r34ld34l

[_Kindled_]

youtube link 

Like this.

 

Could you give me a better example? Cause I did just that. Like maybe get an actual link?

 

Nevermind.

Edited September 28, 2013 by _Kindled_

[Lemans]

 

 

Doesn't 3DS Max include tessellation? If so, I've thought of something.

That tool called "Turbosmooth" or "Meshsmooth"

 

...

 

Well, we should all understand that this Henry Strong guy renders scenes and animations, just the way 3D movies are made. The graphic quality of all those images and animations come from the fact that they are rendered once and only once. The viewers see a rendered product and their systems have to do nothing but show it (an image or video). This allows those products to get as realistic as the creator wants with the only limititations of his/her system's power. Some of these 3D artists are amazingly skilled as you just showed us.

 

With videogames it's all different, they are not a product the customer gets rendered, it's a product that renders itself in real time, and it depends mostly on this customer's GPU, RAM and CPU. The real time rendering needs huge resources, and this depends on the graphic quality of the game. More quality, more resources it needs.

 

I'm sure R*'s artists are capable of making photorealistic scenes, but they they are limited by the game engine and, very importantly, the graphic style of the game. We could define GTA games as "realistic cartoon style", the game looks realistic in its own world, but it's crealy not photorealistic, not because the can't reach that quality, but because it's decided to do it like this (Max Payne 3 uses the same engine but it's much more realistic).

Edited September 28, 2013 by Lemans

[SilverRST]

 

 

 

Doesn't 3DS Max include tessellation? If so, I've thought of something.

That tool called "Turbosmooth" or "Meshsmooth"

 

...

 

Well, we should all understand that this Henry Strong guy renders scenes and animations, just the way 3D movies are made. The graphic quality of all those images and animations come from the fact that they are rendered once and only once. The viewers see a rendered product and their systems have to do nothing but show it (an image or video). This allows those products to get as realistic as the creator wants with the only limititations of his/her system's power. Some of these 3D artists are amazingly skilled as you just showed us.

 

With videogames it's all different, they are not a product the customer gets rendered, it's a product that renders itself in real time, and it depends mostly on this customer's GPU, RAM and CPU. The real time rendering needs huge resources, and this depends on the graphic quality of the game. More quality, more resources it needs.

 

I'm sure R*'s artists are capable of making photorealistic scenes, but they they are limited by the game engine and, very importantly, the graphic style of the game. We could define GTA games as "realistic cartoon style", the game looks realistic in its own world, but it's crealy not photorealistic, not because the can't reach that quality, but because it's decided to do it like this (Max Payne 3 uses the same engine but it's much more realistic).

 

The only and the biggest problem is that R* still lives in the Neanderthales caves and keep wanking on current gen consoles.

We could have had very great GTA with huge gameplay and photorealistic graphics. But no, they just rather

dump sh*t on the current piles of poop.

Edited September 28, 2013 by SilverRST

[Lemans]

 

 

The only and the biggest problem is that R* still lives in the Neanderthales caves and keep wanking on current gen consoles.

We could have had very great GTA with huge gameplay and photorealistic graphics. But no, they just rather

dump sh*t on the current piles of poop.

 

Well, yes, that's also a reason for GTAs graphic limitations lol Even if they have wanted to, they would have not been able to give a further step towards graphic realism, so they have to stick to their usual graphic style. That's what you get when you decide to develop for old hardware... it's a shame, because graphically they are years in the past.

 

They could have perfectly done a game with The Division's graphic quality, or taken Max Payne 3's quality to an open world scene. But they can't.

Edited September 28, 2013 by Lemans

[Nun0567]

 

 

 

 

Doesn't 3DS Max include tessellation? If so, I've thought of something.

That tool called "Turbosmooth" or "Meshsmooth"

 

...

 

Well, we should all understand that this Henry Strong guy renders scenes and animations, just the way 3D movies are made. The graphic quality of all those images and animations come from the fact that they are rendered once and only once. The viewers see a rendered product and their systems have to do nothing but show it (an image or video). This allows those products to get as realistic as the creator wants with the only limititations of his/her system's power. Some of these 3D artists are amazingly skilled as you just showed us.

 

With videogames it's all different, they are not a product the customer gets rendered, it's a product that renders itself in real time, and it depends mostly on this customer's GPU, RAM and CPU. The real time rendering needs huge resources, and this depends on the graphic quality of the game. More quality, more resources it needs.

 

I'm sure R*'s artists are capable of making photorealistic scenes, but they they are limited by the game engine and, very importantly, the graphic style of the game. We could define GTA games as "realistic cartoon style", the game looks realistic in its own world, but it's crealy not photorealistic, not because the can't reach that quality, but because it's decided to do it like this (Max Payne 3 uses the same engine but it's much more realistic).

 

The only and the biggest problem is that R* still lives in the Neanderthales caves and keep wanking on current gen consoles.

We could have had very great GTA with huge gameplay and photorealistic graphics. But no, they just rather

dump sh*t on the current piles of poop.

 

They made 1 billion in 3 days. Maybe they don't live in Neanderthales caves at all.