PC Version of GTA V Discussion

[DymeDef]

 

 

 

 

November 29th could be true. Just one week after next-gen consoles release. This could be true. If yes, then announcement should arrive in these last September days. Then release after 2 months is very likely. We could get an announcement any day now, since GTA V already released. October 1st - launch of a GTA Online - Rockstar could give us an announcement. Rockstar said that they will update Social Club soon with GTA Online features. Now we are seeing PC version alongside X360 and PS3. We could possibily get a PC announcement the day when it will be updated... or on October 1st.

 

PS. This is just my thoughts, but I can only think of these possible times of announcement. Rockstar ussualy announces new trailers, information on Mondays, Tuesdays or Thursdays. I bet that they will update Social Club on one of these days, then maybe we will see what we are waiting for more a very long time.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm not saying GTA V won't come to PC, the evidences are many and very clear, I'm just saying that this web ids thing is not an evidence itself

 

Evidences are the codes found in XB360 files, the icons found in the iFruit app, and maybe the Nvidia story as a rumour that's gaining credibility day by day, to say 3 strong ones.

How about this one ?

 

 

this one looks good sir, you get a cookie

 

This has actually been posted a while back before, I am really surprise very few people notice this.

 

It says 20130610. I think that means that it was made back in June.

 

Check this out:

 

http://who.is/whois/http://cdn.sc.rockstargames.com/images/games/gtav/platform-switcher-20130610.png

 

GODADDY.COM ?

 

SRY guys, I'm afraid it's a fake

Godaddy is a legit hosting company and actually quite a popular one. I don't know if rockstar uses them or not but just because it's not hosted by Rockstar means nothing.

[geisweiller]

R* will say something about the PC version in the next days... At least in respect for the 420k fans that signed the petition...

Edited September 17, 2013 by geisweiller

[iNero]

 

 

 

November 29th could be true. Just one week after next-gen consoles release. This could be true. If yes, then announcement should arrive in these last September days. Then release after 2 months is very likely. We could get an announcement any day now, since GTA V already released. October 1st - launch of a GTA Online - Rockstar could give us an announcement. Rockstar said that they will update Social Club soon with GTA Online features. Now we are seeing PC version alongside X360 and PS3. We could possibily get a PC announcement the day when it will be updated... or on October 1st.

 

PS. This is just my thoughts, but I can only think of these possible times of announcement. Rockstar ussualy announces new trailers, information on Mondays, Tuesdays or Thursdays. I bet that they will update Social Club on one of these days, then maybe we will see what we are waiting for more a very long time.

 

 

 

 

I'm not saying GTA V won't come to PC, the evidences are many and very clear, I'm just saying that this web ids thing is not an evidence itself

 

Evidences are the codes found in XB360 files, the icons found in the iFruit app, and maybe the Nvidia story as a rumour that's gaining credibility day by day, to say 3 strong ones.

How about this one ?

 

 

this one looks good sir, you get a cookie

 

This has actually been posted a while back before, I am really surprise very few people notice this.

 

It says 20130610. I think that means that it was made back in June.

 

 

Check this out:

 

http://who.is/whois/http://cdn.sc.rockstargames.com/images/games/gtav/platform-switcher-20130610.png

 

GODADDY.COM ?

 

SRY guys, I'm afraid it's a fake

 

 

Dude, it's not fake. It's the official rockstargames.com page, and yes it's on godaddy since 1995.

 

 

you guys know that social club and the crews are for Max Payne on PC too??

Edited September 17, 2013 by iNero

[tommysalive]

R* will say something about the PC version in the next days... At least in respect for the 420k fans that signed the petition...

 

I doubt that, Take Two's CEO said months ago that they don't expect anyone to pass it up waiting for something better. It wouldn't be very shrewd to kill any chance of getting PC gamers to buy it on console, lots of people have bought GTA IV and LA Noire on both PC and console because of their silence between the release dates.

[brian.]

 

Nope, it will come in mid 2014. I bet that will happen. No other GTA did that, this one will not be different I am affraid. People who think that release will be this year, hell even in two/three months are nuts. No other GTA did that and this one will not be different. Evidence doesn't hint release, they just hint that it is there. Knowing R*, release will be in May/June 2014, no earlier. I believed that they could do it this year, but analysing facts made me go away from this.

A release in May or June would be 8 to 9 months after the initial release, which will not happen. The last game that was released that late was San Andreas with eight months, and that was over eight years ago. The reason for these delays is that all GTAs thus far have been ported from the console version to PC, and that after the release of the console version, which is most probably not going to happen with GTAV. Why? Look at Rockstars latest title, Max Payne 3; it is not a port, which is because the first two MP games were not ports, either, and it's a way to prepare for the forthcoming console generation. V as a port would be a step back, and that simply makes no sense at all. Rockstar probably worked on the PC version for a while now, but they are polishing it a little later, hence the later release. I don't think we have to wait another half a year or more until we get to play this game.

 

@S1LV3R_W0LF: The gap between initial release and release of PC version was not just four months for L.A. Noire - it was actually six months. The game was released for PS3 and X360 in May 2011, announced for PC a month later, and finally released for PC in November.

 

 

Not to mention Sony had 6 month exclusivity of GTA games from III to SA. They then needed time to market it, especially in that market of yesterday. Now? There is no 6 months exclusivity - it's all up to Rockstar now most likely.

[brian.]

 

 

 

 

November 29th could be true. Just one week after next-gen consoles release. This could be true. If yes, then announcement should arrive in these last September days. Then release after 2 months is very likely. We could get an announcement any day now, since GTA V already released. October 1st - launch of a GTA Online - Rockstar could give us an announcement. Rockstar said that they will update Social Club soon with GTA Online features. Now we are seeing PC version alongside X360 and PS3. We could possibily get a PC announcement the day when it will be updated... or on October 1st.

 

PS. This is just my thoughts, but I can only think of these possible times of announcement. Rockstar ussualy announces new trailers, information on Mondays, Tuesdays or Thursdays. I bet that they will update Social Club on one of these days, then maybe we will see what we are waiting for more a very long time.

 

 

 

 

I'm not saying GTA V won't come to PC, the evidences are many and very clear, I'm just saying that this web ids thing is not an evidence itself

 

Evidences are the codes found in XB360 files, the icons found in the iFruit app, and maybe the Nvidia story as a rumour that's gaining credibility day by day, to say 3 strong ones.

How about this one ?

 

 

this one looks good sir, you get a cookie

 

This has actually been posted a while back before, I am really surprise very few people notice this.

 

It says 20130610. I think that means that it was made back in June.

 

 

Check this out:

 

http://who.is/whois/http://cdn.sc.rockstargames.com/images/games/gtav/platform-switcher-20130610.png

 

GODADDY.COM ?

 

SRY guys, I'm afraid it's a fake

 

 

Dude, it's not fake. It's the official rockstargames.com page, and yes it's on godaddy since 1995.

 

 

you guys know that social club and the crews are for Max Payne on PC too??

 

 

 

LOL this flunk. That link is for "http.com"

 

Rockstar doesn't own the site though, it's registered at namecheap and uses whoisguard, automatically fake.

[r34ld34l]

 

 

 

 

 

November 29th could be true. Just one week after next-gen consoles release. This could be true. If yes, then announcement should arrive in these last September days. Then release after 2 months is very likely. We could get an announcement any day now, since GTA V already released. October 1st - launch of a GTA Online - Rockstar could give us an announcement. Rockstar said that they will update Social Club soon with GTA Online features. Now we are seeing PC version alongside X360 and PS3. We could possibily get a PC announcement the day when it will be updated... or on October 1st.

 

PS. This is just my thoughts, but I can only think of these possible times of announcement. Rockstar ussualy announces new trailers, information on Mondays, Tuesdays or Thursdays. I bet that they will update Social Club on one of these days, then maybe we will see what we are waiting for more a very long time.

 

 

 

 

I'm not saying GTA V won't come to PC, the evidences are many and very clear, I'm just saying that this web ids thing is not an evidence itself

 

Evidences are the codes found in XB360 files, the icons found in the iFruit app, and maybe the Nvidia story as a rumour that's gaining credibility day by day, to say 3 strong ones.

How about this one ?

 

 

this one looks good sir, you get a cookie

 

This has actually been posted a while back before, I am really surprise very few people notice this.

 

It says 20130610. I think that means that it was made back in June.

 

 

Check this out:

 

http://who.is/whois/http://cdn.sc.rockstargames.com/images/games/gtav/platform-switcher-20130610.png

 

GODADDY.COM ?

 

SRY guys, I'm afraid it's a fake

 

 

Dude, it's not fake. It's the official rockstargames.com page, and yes it's on godaddy since 1995.

 

 

you guys know that social club and the crews are for Max Payne on PC too??

 

 

 

LOL this flunk. That link is for "http.com"

 

Rockstar doesn't own the site though, it's registered at namecheap and uses whoisguard, automatically fake.

 

This (first sentence)

 

Second sentence, WTF?

 

 

 

 

It is legit: http://who.is/whois/cdn.sc.rockstargames.com/images/games/gtav/platform-switcher-20130610.png

Edited September 17, 2013 by r34ld34l

[m2o2]

 

 

 

November 29th could be true. Just one week after next-gen consoles release. This could be true. If yes, then announcement should arrive in these last September days. Then release after 2 months is very likely. We could get an announcement any day now, since GTA V already released. October 1st - launch of a GTA Online - Rockstar could give us an announcement. Rockstar said that they will update Social Club soon with GTA Online features. Now we are seeing PC version alongside X360 and PS3. We could possibily get a PC announcement the day when it will be updated... or on October 1st.

 

PS. This is just my thoughts, but I can only think of these possible times of announcement. Rockstar ussualy announces new trailers, information on Mondays, Tuesdays or Thursdays. I bet that they will update Social Club on one of these days, then maybe we will see what we are waiting for more a very long time.

 

 

 

 

I'm not saying GTA V won't come to PC, the evidences are many and very clear, I'm just saying that this web ids thing is not an evidence itself

 

Evidences are the codes found in XB360 files, the icons found in the iFruit app, and maybe the Nvidia story as a rumour that's gaining credibility day by day, to say 3 strong ones.

How about this one ?

 

 

this one looks good sir, you get a cookie

 

This has actually been posted a while back before, I am really surprise very few people notice this.

 

It says 20130610. I think that means that it was made back in June.

 

 

Check this out:

 

http://who.is/whois/http://cdn.sc.rockstargames.com/images/games/gtav/platform-switcher-20130610.png

 

GODADDY.COM ?

 

SRY guys, I'm afraid it's a fake

 

 

Dude, it's not fake. It's the official rockstargames.com page, and yes it's on godaddy since 1995.

 

I hope you are right.

[brian.]

I thought I was quoting someone in relation to that rockstarannouncement countdown page, not a rockstargames.com check ^

 

I thought it was someone who didn't notice i already checked who registered the announcement site. If you look at the link nested in my quote, it leads to a test for "http.com" instead of any other sites ;P

[r34ld34l]

I thought I was quoting someone in relation to that rockstarannouncement countdown page, not a rockstargames.com check ^

 

I thought it was someone who didn't notice i already checked who registered the announcement site. If you look at the link nested in my quote, it leads to a test for "http.com" instead of any other sites ;P

Nobody noticed before you and me. So many wannabes and they don't read few pages back. So sick of this repetive sh*t, gonna just stop visiting this thread.

[s-paco]

Why should GTA V Release to PC

 

R* doesn't care about this, it's a company that's in it for the money and they know waiting a few months after the console release is the best way to make money.

[jimmycakes]

 

Why should GTA V Release to PC

 

R* doesn't care about this, it's a company that's in it for the money and they know waiting a few months after the console release is the best way to make money.

 

You don't know that, stop pretending you know what's going on.

[DymeDef]

 

 

 

 

Why should GTA V Release to PC

R* doesn't care about this, it's a company that's in it for the money and they know waiting a few months after the console release is the best way to make money.

 

You don't know that, stop pretending you know what's going on.Lol....

 

Business

 

They are around for one thing, making money.

 

Rockstar is a business

 

How could they not be looking to maximize profits?

 

God you are a moron, seriously you act like you know everything when you do not. Grab onto brians nuts more . He has great info and insight but not everything he says is true, yet you turn to him like he's some god. Then later on dis dudes for asking questions. Stop being a douche you loser.

 

Yes, Rockstar is only holding out on PC just to see us squirm. Lol... You're the definition of moron.

Edited September 17, 2013 by DymeDef

[cara2100]

http://www.rockstarannouncement.com/#sthash.T1tyYJke.CeXOPemS.dpbs

 

 

it endured 14 days .................. for 9 hours

 

 

 

rockstar does not usually release anything at 5:00 am here in Brazil and 1:00 am for you guys

[s-paco]

You don't know that, stop pretending you know what's going on.

 

 

You should use some logic, it might help you. Looking at all the previous GTA games, the same things happened. It's just a matter of time.

I've seen these threads since GTA3 and yet they keep coming every GTA console launch.

[Game512]

 

 

Why should GTA V Release to PC

 

R* doesn't care about this, it's a company that's in it for the money and they know waiting a few months after the console release is the best way to make money.

 

You don't know that, stop pretending you know what's going on.

 

 

Like 10 years of such practice is not enough for this statement

Edited September 18, 2013 by Game512

[jimmycakes]

Lol....

 

Business

 

They are around for one thing, making money.

 

Rockstar is a business

 

How could they not be looking to maximize profits?

 

God you are a moron, seriously you act like you know everything when you do not. Grab onto brians nuts more . He has great info and insight but not everything he says is true, yet you turn to him like he's some god. Then later on dis dudes for asking questions. Stop being a douche you loser.

 

Yes, Rockstar is only holding out on PC just to see us squirm. Lol... You're the definition of moron.

 

 

I don't claim to know anything, that's the point. You say it's good business practice to wait months to release a PC version, then I guess releasing Max Payne 3 so close to console release was bad business? Or LA Noire after that? You retard. Game companies don't just sit on games for 8 months, they work on them until the publisher tells them to get it out the door.

 

The reason why I respect Brian is that he uses verifiable info and points out when he uses speculation. You on the other hand apparently know all Rockstar's business strategies and have flawed logic that they purposely wait 8 months so they can maximize profits which just retarded.

Edited September 17, 2013 by jimmycakes

[PlasmaFLOW]

 

You don't know that, stop pretending you know what's going on.

 

 

You should use some logic, it might help you. Looking at all the previous GTA games, the same things happened. It's just a matter of time.

I've seen these threads since GTA3 and yet they keep coming every GTA console launch.

 

People put as an excuse Rockstar's Pattern with GTA, yet... Patterns, can be changed. Markets change, evolve, and so do the marketing strategies themselves

[r34ld34l]

 

 

You don't know that, stop pretending you know what's going on.

 

 

You should use some logic, it might help you. Looking at all the previous GTA games, the same things happened. It's just a matter of time.

I've seen these threads since GTA3 and yet they keep coming every GTA console launch.

 

People put as an excuse Rockstar's Pattern with GTA, yet... Patterns, can be changed. Markets change, evolve, and so do the marketing strategies themselves

 

Correct, but R* won't change. They are console fanboys.

[DymeDef]

 

Lol....

 

 

Business

 

They are around for one thing, making money.

 

Rockstar is a business

 

How could they not be looking to maximize profits?

 

God you are a moron, seriously you act like you know everything when you do not. Grab onto brians nuts more . He has great info and insight but not everything he says is true, yet you turn to him like he's some god. Then later on dis dudes for asking questions. Stop being a douche you loser.

 

Yes, Rockstar is only holding out on PC just to see us squirm. Lol... You're the definition of moron.

 

I don't claim to know anything, that's the point. You say it's good business practice to wait months to release a PC version, then I guess releasing Max Payne 3 so close to console release was bad business? Or LA Noire after that? You retard. Game companies don't just sit on games for 8 months, they work on them until the publisher tells them to get it out the door.

 

The reason why I respect Brian is that he uses verifiable info and points out when he uses speculation. You on the other hand apparently know all Rockstar's business strategies and have flawed logic that they purposely wait 8 months so they can maximize profits which just retarded.

Lol no, I know what Rockstar is doing because I have taken economics classes. You know those classes that explain how to maximize profits in a business, how to create successful marketing plan, how to build interest in a product.

 

The sh*t Rockstar pulls is literally entry level economics. Lol, as basic as it gets. You don't know sh*t, so stop telling people to not post when you clearly do not know yourself.

 

More than half the people who bought gta v likely will buy it again for PC or next gen and possibly multiple times over. This is basic staggered release, you release the weakest platform first, build hype, then release the true platforms after hype has already been built by advertising and the initial release. Apple does the exact same type of marketing. They release a new phone every so often and include one or two features. Why do they do this? Because people have proven time and time again that if they like the product they have no problems with buying it again or a ever so slightly upgraded version.

 

I'm not talking about their marketing like I have no clue what their scheme is. If you go back a sh*t ton of pages you will see me preaching the same thing. This is all marketing, plain and simple. We have seen the evidence a PC version exists, they are waiting on a perfect release Window. We don't know what the Window is because we don't know the specifics behind rock stars plans for online or anything. Rockstar keeps hush about everything they don't want public, but this doesn't mean their marketing isn't transparent.

 

Seriously, the game exists on pc, but they just choose not to release it for no reason? No there are millions of reasons and every one of them starts with a $.

 

Whether you want to believe it or not, Rockstar is a business and they do have to pay their employees and they do like food with their meals. They created a work of art and feel they should be compensated for it. This is their game, they make these calls, not the fans. As much as we hate it, we come back for more. Why? Because Rockstar makes quality games so we put up with this sh*t until we can play then we forget about it.

 

I never said anything about waiting 8 months for a PC version of V either. I said it will likely come before the end of the year to reap the holiday sales and get more people buying stuff on their in game market for online. It really is basic economics.

 

You're letting this information drought effect your mood, don't. It's a game, if you want it that bad get it on console. I did, and have no problems with doing so. Why? Because I wanted to play that bad.

Edited September 18, 2013 by DymeDef

[SilverRST]

Exactly what you said, DymeDef.

R* simply won't change their pattern what they did to their previous GTA games.

They know about their strategy and they know it works. It's all about $$$.

Those filthy low-end consoles are closed and almost protected to pirate sh*t and most of the consoles peasants

are like 12-15 years old and know barely how to jailbreak their PS3 or that sh*t called for X360.

So that means more $$$ for R*.

[StoOopiD]

[mercado2121]

This doesn't mean there won't be one. It's GTA, do you know how much money they'd ,lose without PC?

some source say they will make a billion ,which is alot of profits(not a billion in profits)soo theres no way they be losing money with or without pc gta v

[brian.]

We're all speculating, and many of us are knowledgeable enough to be able to give some insight on possibilities. The last thing we should do is dismiss each other, or not be open to each other's ideas. I have been learning a lot here and that is not to belittle people for what they don't yet take into account or recognize yet for themselves. Even when they are belligerent (hardest part )

 

You can really gather a lot from the history of Rockstar, applied to anything you've learned that helps to make sense of it -

 

Max Payne 3 was not just "We're also going to release it same day on PC (and then slipped a couple weeks), wasn't it more like "It's our first game coming to PC same day and date (and then it slipped a couple weeks)"? Or no?

 

Because with things coming down to the wire, a humbling like that occurring, a PC release coming a bit later than planned, a bit of an embarrassment, and I imagine felt internally in their studio, in themselves, more than us fans were angry or upset or let down, for all we know, it could have been that kind of humbling experience.

 

Next comes the delay of GTA V. 6 months - again, the studio conglomerate that is the Rockstar family over-reached in their estimates, and needed more time.

 

We are seeing a family of studios who want to do multiplatform simultaneous releases, who leverage their inability to do so in very smart ways we are all very familiar with at this point - the secrecy, the hype, the screenshots being immaculate, the gameplay being optimized, etc -

 

People write off all of the above with "Duh, max payne was ALWAYS a PC game, of course it came the same time"

 

Sure, but, still, consider what I said - and consider also this: It really doesn't matter where a game starts or ends up. CoD was a PC game and by CoD3 Kotick said "CoD is a console game" and has been ever since, although Infinity Ward did very good for the PC community until they left after MW2, since then it's been console centric both studios, until now where ghosts is supposed to be getting better assets on PC than new consoles can handle - cool, but it's not "true" PC love, is it? Let's see the launch, and it will likely be more than just better assets (dedicated servers that are good perhaps) -

 

"OKAY BRIAN, WHAT IS THE POINT?"

 

The point is that every developers key interest in technological direction since they learned about Orbis and Durango and got those devkits and sh*t has been to get over to PC ASAP - get into simultaneous or slightly later PC releases, to have PC leading their technology, perhaps as it should be now that PC has come so very far since 1990.

 

The reason that is a focus is because that is the future of game development, distribution, and so is the mac and various mobile platforms that are about to "grow in scope".

 

The Desktop PC, Media PC, and Mobile Platforms (their evolution) is about to do to living room game consoles what the SmartPhone did to PSP and other handheld devices like ds and mp3 players - render them irrelevant, and marketable in any meaningful way only to kids and to the low end, which is still okay and not "doomsday" for consoles because the low end is a very large market currently.

 

Developers across the board know this, console manufacture and brand holders know this, they know they need to get behind PC's growth, restructure their capabilities, drive games over the cloud to boost their consoles, do multiplatform interconnectivity (not interconnected play, but things like apps and such), keep those boxes improving, in software and in hardware, and keep them going - distaste for Windows 8 is really only going to last them until the next windows. No matter what direction Microsoft goes, with windows, or changing rooms in your household, Mac is getting strong, well refined at this point, and finally gaining love from game developers. It's a couple years off from being competitive in this market, but it is already showing a lot of potential. An apple console, or rather the ability to sync your iPhone7 to your Apple TV or apple-enabled device (like a by-then old xb1 and its mobile connectivity, or a by then old PS4) and just play games through it, using those consoles as hubs, as they evolve with other new uses along side that.

 

There's every reason in the world for developers to get behind SteamBox as well - Valve's decision to become competitive with Big Picture Mode and go into the living room is a BIG DEAL around console headquarters and round tables people - we can tell because steam often gives developers 70 percent of profits (what it comes out to at the rates they pay for keys and rights to do business as they do as a service and reseller) while in retail (console AND pc retail), developers only get up to like 30 percent. Typical is 5 to 10 percent after all expenses. A bit more than operating costs. When you hear EA made a lot of money, that's because 200 different studios on 17 different platforms made a bit of money each

 

So the future is very, very strong for PC, as in this coming generation, lead platform is the PC, and each game will have babies that are popped onto the console platforms (as already evidenced, again, by better PC version confirmed for BF4 and CoD) and steambox (and unnofficial/homebrew/thirdparty steam boxes) will dominate and compete with next "well known" consoles by the middle of PS4 and XB1 life.

 

The future is very, very bright.

 

Evidence that Rockstar knows it?

 

Their wishes to have MP3 out same day, the delay it suffered - only weeks - followed by a 6 month delay of GTA V - they overshot capability a couple times - well once internally, but being seen by us a couple times externally, the effects we're seeing ripples - Profits from GTA V are sure to allow them to make sure this doesn't happen anymore. WHich is also why GTA Online is finally a reality - because now multiplatform is going to be a norm for them, because they know very well, even more, than I said here.

 

If you really really think about it all, it's all pretty much all easy to believe, there is plenty of reason to apply critical thought to real world things. An economics class only shows you the ropes, you really need to look at each one on a case by case basis in the real world, and give room for organics, especially when performing analysis from the outside.

 

Times are changing, we're see it in front of us, the money shows it, the developers show it, the platforms are showing it.

Edited September 18, 2013 by brian.

[Zotak]

Guys let me tell you, not releasing GTA V on PC is not only a bad move financialy speaking, it's a marketing failure, think, the PC version not only gives them some extra profit but a proper showroom for their products.

 

The PC allows them to show their work on a much more higher level of quality, and lets not forget the modding community which extends and improve the game, thus given them more exposure (marketing) and appealing, and that benefits new proyects, and future console costumers aswell.

 

On a side note, the modding community will tune the driving physics so many people bitch about, and I am pretty sure Rockstar learns a few things from the modding scene.

 

The guys at Rockstar love what they do, but they are business men and know what's good for them.

 

A PC version is certainly good for them.

[DymeDef]

Brain I am simply explaining why it is that Rockstar decides to not release the PC version side by side.

 

It is simple as marketing. Can you not agree that most of the people who bought the console version will likely buy the game again on the new consoles or PC? This is more the reason than any other like the "usual GTA delay" or "to see PC gamers squirm". Most of these people think that Rockstar does this just because. No, there is always a method to their madness and this is no exception.

 

If you could get away with selling someone the exact same item, but a little better looking more than once, wouldn't you take that chance? I would 10/10 times. Just because Rockstar makes games doesn't mean they are some saint sent from above to change the gaming industry. They are as much of a business as EA is and they have to make decisions that is best for their business. What is best for a business? Profit, it keeps your employees paid, pays the bills and allows you to progress as a business.

 

I understand where you are comping from, and I don't think we will see a delay longer than the end of January, after January they are only a handful of weeks from their Fiscal year. Also after January they will have missed out on a HUGE time to sell. The holidays is well known to be pure gold for releasing games, and missing this mark would only hurt them; they literally have nothing to gain from pushing it past January unless they wanted the PC release to only be a part of the next fiscal year. Splitting it between would only be a hassle so they will likely be looking for that initial wave of sales to be a part of their current year.

 

This doesn't mean that they won't delay it until the usual 8ish months GTA games get delayed. But like you have said, they have only taken steps forward as a studio and not continuing the side by side development of PC and Consoles is nothing but a step backwards and a HUGE one to not develop GTA V on PC, for only the experience for the coming years let alone the profit and the accolades they would get for developing it as a PC game and not a port.

 

Basic economics does show you what they are doing, because as you have proven there are screens that are obviously NOT from the current gen consoles. This means that the PC version has been at least been worked on for a while, not going to say it is finished or not but I have a feeling it is. But we do know that there has at least been work put in to the PC version. The fact that they do not just come out and say NO PC VERSION means they have one or are finishing it up. If they were to talk about a PC version how many sales would they lose? A lot, especially in the European market where PC gaming is light years ahead of the console gaming market. The only thing they get from not talking about a PC version is stirring up more hype (notice how many people are flipping their sh*t over still not hearing anything. Guess what they did? They burned GTA V into your head and provided the absolute best advertising, the unknown), and creating better sales for the current gen consoles.

 

Xbox 360

Playstation 3

 

Many people bought the game for both systems. And many of those who did, also plan to buy one or both new consoles. Some even also have a PC and might even pick up a new console.

 

Now take all of those people who bought the game. Each one has a pretty good chance to be in possession of a PC or waiting for the new consoles.

 

Now calculate that around 1/2 of the people who bought the current gen version, will buy another copy for different systems. Even at 1/4 of those the sales is a mind blowing number.

 

This is a massive gain in profit for Rockstar, ESPECIALLY on PC. PC has a lower cost to get the game out, while consoles get most of their sles form retail. Retail costs a lot more money than anyone thinks it does, because you have to make manuals, cases, covers, CD's and then ship them out. This is not cheap, and you also have to take into account the amount of hours spent on GTA V. Which goes right back to christmas. Holidays are when people buy their families pretty much whatever they want, which means an even larger market than just because it is GTA V. Even people lightly interested will ask for it for the holidays just because.

 

You have to take economics and marketing into account because that is literally what drives their business. Without funds Rockstar can't make games, can't pay for their employees (which I would guess are well paid with how loyal they are and how hush they keep), and can't pay for their offices/studios. The thing most people completely forget, is that running a business, especially one centered around entertainment is that the cost to run the business is staggering. What I have included is literally only the surface. There are so many other things that must be paid to the government, to insurance companies, to advertising, everything costs money. And when you have the name Rockstar does they are held to a certain standard by their fans and they expect a lot out of themselves. you can tell they do just by looking at their work, it is always progressing, they never take steps backwards. And this goes back to your point a few months ago about how if they did not develop a PC version side by side consoles they would be taking a step backwards. Rockstar does not do this, they always move forward. Which brings us again to the marketing scheme, which as you can see is nothing more than a basic model to maximize profit by swindling their customers into buying more than one copy. Is it lame? Hell yeah, but then again when is life not? This is just how this kind of sh*t works. You can't expect a business to only work for the good of their customers, they have massive expenses and the only way to pay for that AND make profit is to maximize your sales.

 

Just think about how long GTA V has been in development and they have not received anything in return until just today. That Rockstar employee who leaked all that info and posted the portfolio for Rockstars 2010 fiscal year, he had l\plenty of evidence that the game was originally slated for a 2010 release. RELEASE. That means the game has been in development likely, since they stopped working on GTA IV content for the 360 and started porting it to PC. So like since 09ish, this game has been doing nothing but EATING funds, hogging employees, taking lots resources. There is a need to replenish those resources as well as make their profit that they feel they deserve for a game of this caliber.

 

Gah, I didn't mean for that WoT.

TL;DR: Dont wory everyone a PC version will be here before you know it. They are simply maximizing profits to continue development and to pay their expenses and employees.

 

Also the belittling of Jimmy was not from this thread. Most of what he posted in here is either dismissable or I just skip over it as it usually doesn't say much other than asking you for your opinion. My problem with him is from other threads, where all he does is e-bully and act like an internet tuff guy.

Edited September 18, 2013 by DymeDef

[DymeDef]

Correct, but R* won't change. They are console fanboys.

 

See Brian this is the type of sh*t I am talking about. This is being an idiot. Plain and simple.

 

Rockstar are not Console fanbois you just have no idea how to market.

 

 

Why do you people think Apple releases their phones like they do? In little waves of one or two new features for a 600 dollar phone. Because if people prove that they will buy it, then why would you as someone who produces such goods not take advantage of this?

 

Simple, you do.

Edited September 18, 2013 by DymeDef

[ZeeKid2k10]

PC Gamers are so mad they trolling on review sites.....Hold your horse GTA5 will come to PC maybe next month or November *R will made a statement....

Edited September 18, 2013 by ZeeKid2k10

[ViciousLuke]

 

You don't know that, stop pretending you know what's going on.

 

 

You should use some logic, it might help you. Looking at all the previous GTA games, the same things happened. It's just a matter of time.

I've seen these threads since GTA3 and yet they keep coming every GTA console launch.

 

Have you seen so many leaked files that shows PC version was in development long time ago? Like was said before - previous GTA games were ports, there was no leaked information or anything about it, simply because previous GTA games were ported AFTER console release to PC. Now, since 2012 we are still getting information about a PC version and it's existance. GTA V for PC is already made and now it's only for Rockstar to decide when to release it. Rockstar updated Social Club so it could work with PS3/X360 and PC versions of the game already. Also released iFruit app which contains files - those shows that iFruit app could also work now with 3 platforms (PC icons, loading screen etc. placed together with PS3 and X360 in the same folders. Everything is made for PC just like for X360 and PS3. Different colours, loading screens, icons and more for 3 different platforms). Why would Rockstar do something so early if they are not even planning to release game earlier? They know that people will find out about these. It will make people to talk about it and keep that big level of hype for some time. They wouldn't release these if they just started working with a PC version of the game.

Edited September 18, 2013 by ViciousLuke

[brian.]

There is still the likelihood that there is still work going on. when finishing up a game on consoles, it's a lot simpler terrain to traverse than supporting any number of hardware setups on PC, scaling to support a range of desktops.

Edited September 18, 2013 by brian.