Zee Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 And again, all you DLC haters One has to love this level of discourse. If you're not 100% for it, you're immediately a hater. GTAF is getting more and more alike USA during the cold war period. Prosecution and sentencing based on third hand hearsay. Well what would you say? I don't like all DLC, I am completely against Capcom like DLC where they sell you On Disc content, I'm not a huge fan of pre-order DLC and store specific DLC, etc, I've even pointed out multiple times how Rockstar's Multi Player DLC isn't that good. But I'm not going to sit here and be stubborn and all like "ALL DLC IS BAD, MONEY GRABBING HUNGRY COMPANYS AGAINST ME!". There's good DLC and yes, a very large amount of Bad DLC out there, I consider The Lost and Damned and The Ballad of Gay Tony and Undead Nightmare to be pretty damn good DLC. So you love DLC? If it's done right, yeah, DC can add some very interesting spins onto a game. Yes, there's good Dlc.. But why they have to be paid ? We already bought the game why we have to pay for a piece of sh*t for the game ? If you want to release dlc's ? Do it. But put them for free. Because extra work has gone into them, unless you think people should work for free? EFLC contained a bucket load of new music added to the Radio, how do you think they got them? Record Labels don't exactly just let companies use them for free. Occasionally you will get Free DLC, even Rockstar have done it themselves, once with RDR to say thanks for the support and once with Max Payne 3 as a desperate push to get more people playing Multi Player. But the likes of TLAD/TBOGT and Undead Nihtmare which contain a whole new chapter worth of story missions, dialogue, interactions, etc, did take some time to make and add on, and again, the price was fair, especially Undead Nightmare which was HALF the price of TLAD and TBOGT and even then you get sales for the DLC, with TLAD and TBOGT going for $5 each, if you still don't think it's worth that, then there's not much I can really say but I do find it sad how a lot of you are criticizing the GTA and RDR DLC meanwhile Activision recycle old Maps from previous COD games and sell them back to people for a HIGHER price than these DLC. The people producing that content would be paid because it would be included in the original game in the first place. The part that people paid $60 plus for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash_735 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 The people producing that content would be paid because it would be included in the original game in the first place. The part that people paid $60 plus for. You keep saying that but you've not given any proof, Zee, where would the two storylines fit in the original GTA IV? There's only one protagonist. How about the Music? How about any of the extra TV and Media Content to? Have you forgot that GTA IV filled the Xbox 360 disc limit at the time with it's 6.8GB limit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward-Is-A-Flunky45 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 The people producing that content would be paid because it would be included in the original game in the first place. The part that people paid $60 plus for. You keep saying that but you've not given any proof, Zee, where would the two storylines fit in the original GTA IV? There's only one protagonist. How about the Music? How about any of the extra TV and Media Content to? Have you forgot that GTA IV filled the Xbox 360 disc limit at the time with it's 6.8GB limit? Oh and they had the great idea of putting 3 f*cking discs on L.A Noire... Why didn't they do it with GTA IV ? Money ? Of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonp92 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 And again, all you DLC haters One has to love this level of discourse. If you're not 100% for it, you're immediately a hater. GTAF is getting more and more alike USA during the cold war period. Prosecution and sentencing based on third hand hearsay. Well what would you say? I don't like all DLC, I am completely against Capcom like DLC where they sell you On Disc content, I'm not a huge fan of pre-order DLC and store specific DLC, etc, I've even pointed out multiple times how Rockstar's Multi Player DLC isn't that good. But I'm not going to sit here and be stubborn and all like "ALL DLC IS BAD, MONEY GRABBING HUNGRY COMPANYS AGAINST ME!". There's good DLC and yes, a very large amount of Bad DLC out there, I consider The Lost and Damned and The Ballad of Gay Tony and Undead Nightmare to be pretty damn good DLC. So you love DLC? If it's done right, yeah, DC can add some very interesting spins onto a game. Yes, there's good Dlc.. But why they have to be paid ? We already bought the game why we have to pay for a piece of sh*t for the game ? If you want to release dlc's ? Do it. But put them for free. Because extra work has gone into them, unless you think people should work for free? EFLC contained a bucket load of new music added to the Radio, how do you think they got them? Record Labels don't exactly just let companies use them for free. Occasionally you will get Free DLC, even Rockstar have done it themselves, once with RDR to say thanks for the support and once with Max Payne 3 as a desperate push to get more people playing Multi Player. But the likes of TLAD/TBOGT and Undead Nihtmare which contain a whole new chapter worth of story missions, dialogue, interactions, etc, did take some time to make and add on, and again, the price was fair, especially Undead Nightmare which was HALF the price of TLAD and TBOGT and even then you get sales for the DLC, with TLAD and TBOGT going for $5 each, if you still don't think it's worth that, then there's not much I can really say but I do find it sad how a lot of you are criticizing the GTA and RDR DLC meanwhile Activision recycle old Maps from previous COD games and sell them back to people for a HIGHER price than these DLC. The people producing that content would be paid because it would be included in the original game in the first place. The part that people paid $60 plus for. How about games just being free? Lollypops and teddybears for everyone? Some of you guys are spoiled brats who want everything for free, and it's understandable. I would rather have everything for free. Sadly our world doesnt quite work that way. Get with the program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash_735 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 The people producing that content would be paid because it would be included in the original game in the first place. The part that people paid $60 plus for. You keep saying that but you've not given any proof, Zee, where would the two storylines fit in the original GTA IV? There's only one protagonist. How about the Music? How about any of the extra TV and Media Content to? Have you forgot that GTA IV filled the Xbox 360 disc limit at the time with it's 6.8GB limit? Oh and they had the great idea of putting 3 f*cking discs on L.A Noire... Why didn't they do it with GTA IV ? Money ? Of course. So how would you split up the game? L.A.Noire had specific Chapters to the story, same with Max Payne 3, what would you suggest they do with GTA IV? Are you saying that EFLC should have come with the original game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zee Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 And again, all you DLC haters One has to love this level of discourse. If you're not 100% for it, you're immediately a hater. GTAF is getting more and more alike USA during the cold war period. Prosecution and sentencing based on third hand hearsay. Well what would you say? I don't like all DLC, I am completely against Capcom like DLC where they sell you On Disc content, I'm not a huge fan of pre-order DLC and store specific DLC, etc, I've even pointed out multiple times how Rockstar's Multi Player DLC isn't that good. But I'm not going to sit here and be stubborn and all like "ALL DLC IS BAD, MONEY GRABBING HUNGRY COMPANYS AGAINST ME!". There's good DLC and yes, a very large amount of Bad DLC out there, I consider The Lost and Damned and The Ballad of Gay Tony and Undead Nightmare to be pretty damn good DLC. So you love DLC? If it's done right, yeah, DC can add some very interesting spins onto a game. Yes, there's good Dlc.. But why they have to be paid ? We already bought the game why we have to pay for a piece of sh*t for the game ? If you want to release dlc's ? Do it. But put them for free. Because extra work has gone into them, unless you think people should work for free? EFLC contained a bucket load of new music added to the Radio, how do you think they got them? Record Labels don't exactly just let companies use them for free. Occasionally you will get Free DLC, even Rockstar have done it themselves, once with RDR to say thanks for the support and once with Max Payne 3 as a desperate push to get more people playing Multi Player. But the likes of TLAD/TBOGT and Undead Nihtmare which contain a whole new chapter worth of story missions, dialogue, interactions, etc, did take some time to make and add on, and again, the price was fair, especially Undead Nightmare which was HALF the price of TLAD and TBOGT and even then you get sales for the DLC, with TLAD and TBOGT going for $5 each, if you still don't think it's worth that, then there's not much I can really say but I do find it sad how a lot of you are criticizing the GTA and RDR DLC meanwhile Activision recycle old Maps from previous COD games and sell them back to people for a HIGHER price than these DLC. The people producing that content would be paid because it would be included in the original game in the first place. The part that people paid $60 plus for. How about games just being free? Lollypops and teddybears for everyone? Some of you guys are spoiled brats who want everything for free, and it's understandable. I would rather have everything for free. Sadly our world doesnt quite work that way. Get with the program. Well, as long as R* wants to keep cocking up and f*cking up their DLC releases like max payne 3, the consumer will decide f*ck R* and stop buying their sh*tTY DLC via supply and demand. And you can take that to the bank, mister capitalist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonp92 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 And again, all you DLC haters One has to love this level of discourse. If you're not 100% for it, you're immediately a hater. GTAF is getting more and more alike USA during the cold war period. Prosecution and sentencing based on third hand hearsay. Well what would you say? I don't like all DLC, I am completely against Capcom like DLC where they sell you On Disc content, I'm not a huge fan of pre-order DLC and store specific DLC, etc, I've even pointed out multiple times how Rockstar's Multi Player DLC isn't that good. But I'm not going to sit here and be stubborn and all like "ALL DLC IS BAD, MONEY GRABBING HUNGRY COMPANYS AGAINST ME!". There's good DLC and yes, a very large amount of Bad DLC out there, I consider The Lost and Damned and The Ballad of Gay Tony and Undead Nightmare to be pretty damn good DLC. So you love DLC? If it's done right, yeah, DC can add some very interesting spins onto a game. Yes, there's good Dlc.. But why they have to be paid ? We already bought the game why we have to pay for a piece of sh*t for the game ? If you want to release dlc's ? Do it. But put them for free. Because extra work has gone into them, unless you think people should work for free? EFLC contained a bucket load of new music added to the Radio, how do you think they got them? Record Labels don't exactly just let companies use them for free. Occasionally you will get Free DLC, even Rockstar have done it themselves, once with RDR to say thanks for the support and once with Max Payne 3 as a desperate push to get more people playing Multi Player. But the likes of TLAD/TBOGT and Undead Nihtmare which contain a whole new chapter worth of story missions, dialogue, interactions, etc, did take some time to make and add on, and again, the price was fair, especially Undead Nightmare which was HALF the price of TLAD and TBOGT and even then you get sales for the DLC, with TLAD and TBOGT going for $5 each, if you still don't think it's worth that, then there's not much I can really say but I do find it sad how a lot of you are criticizing the GTA and RDR DLC meanwhile Activision recycle old Maps from previous COD games and sell them back to people for a HIGHER price than these DLC. The people producing that content would be paid because it would be included in the original game in the first place. The part that people paid $60 plus for. How about games just being free? Lollypops and teddybears for everyone? Some of you guys are spoiled brats who want everything for free, and it's understandable. I would rather have everything for free. Sadly our world doesnt quite work that way. Get with the program. Well, as long as R* wants to keep cocking up and f*cking up their DLC releases like max payne 3, the consumer will decide f*ck R* and stop buying their sh*tTY DLC via supply and demand. And you can take that to the bank, mister capitalist. Lol. Whether you like it or not, you're a capitalist aswell. At this point we can't choose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward-Is-A-Flunky45 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 And again, all you DLC haters One has to love this level of discourse. If you're not 100% for it, you're immediately a hater. GTAF is getting more and more alike USA during the cold war period. Prosecution and sentencing based on third hand hearsay. Well what would you say? I don't like all DLC, I am completely against Capcom like DLC where they sell you On Disc content, I'm not a huge fan of pre-order DLC and store specific DLC, etc, I've even pointed out multiple times how Rockstar's Multi Player DLC isn't that good. But I'm not going to sit here and be stubborn and all like "ALL DLC IS BAD, MONEY GRABBING HUNGRY COMPANYS AGAINST ME!". There's good DLC and yes, a very large amount of Bad DLC out there, I consider The Lost and Damned and The Ballad of Gay Tony and Undead Nightmare to be pretty damn good DLC. So you love DLC? If it's done right, yeah, DC can add some very interesting spins onto a game. Yes, there's good Dlc.. But why they have to be paid ? We already bought the game why we have to pay for a piece of sh*t for the game ? If you want to release dlc's ? Do it. But put them for free. Because extra work has gone into them, unless you think people should work for free? EFLC contained a bucket load of new music added to the Radio, how do you think they got them? Record Labels don't exactly just let companies use them for free. Occasionally you will get Free DLC, even Rockstar have done it themselves, once with RDR to say thanks for the support and once with Max Payne 3 as a desperate push to get more people playing Multi Player. But the likes of TLAD/TBOGT and Undead Nihtmare which contain a whole new chapter worth of story missions, dialogue, interactions, etc, did take some time to make and add on, and again, the price was fair, especially Undead Nightmare which was HALF the price of TLAD and TBOGT and even then you get sales for the DLC, with TLAD and TBOGT going for $5 each, if you still don't think it's worth that, then there's not much I can really say but I do find it sad how a lot of you are criticizing the GTA and RDR DLC meanwhile Activision recycle old Maps from previous COD games and sell them back to people for a HIGHER price than these DLC. The people producing that content would be paid because it would be included in the original game in the first place. The part that people paid $60 plus for. How about games just being free? Lollypops and teddybears for everyone? Some of you guys are spoiled brats who want everything for free, and it's understandable. I would rather have everything for free. Sadly our world doesnt quite work that way. Get with the program. Well, as long as R* wants to keep cocking up and f*cking up their DLC releases like max payne 3, the consumer will decide f*ck R* and stop buying their sh*tTY DLC via supply and demand. And you can take that to the bank, mister capitalist. Lol. Whether you like it or not, you're a capitalist aswell. At this point we can't choose. In a socialist country none of us would live a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash_735 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Well, as long as R* wants to keep cocking up and f*cking up their DLC releases like max payne 3, the consumer will decide f*ck R* and stop buying their sh*tTY DLC via supply and demand. And you can take that to the bank, mister capitalist. Just to say something that I've said a hundred times over now, I agree, Rockstar don't do good with Multi Player DLC and Max Payne 3 DLC has been a disaster! I would have preferred to at least see some Nightmare Single Player DLC as there two points in the game where Max sleeps and it's a bloody damn shame they never done Nightmare Sequences! Instead they just focus on Multi Player DLC and constantly f*ck it up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TellEmRye Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 I must say there is no point in moaning about DLC and everyone encouraging it, this is just simple supply and demand and you can never stop it, it happens in every industry. Me personally I disagree with it all too, but R* didn't milk it and for the amount of extra content they added i'll happily pay the asking price. Games like Call of Duty however are just a rip off, I never buy any of the DLC for that because it's daylight robbery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyper Posted October 16, 2012 Author Share Posted October 16, 2012 It's the CoD community's own fault that the Devs sell them expensive DLC's. Like TellEmRye said it's about supply and demand. Majority of CoD player's have deliberately choosen to pay for, and therefore support, expensive DLC's that adds almost nothing to the game. They buy it, and the Devs keep selling it. It's quite sad actually and I hope GTA player's wont choose the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redx165 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 @Rockstar: don't listen to these broke and/or cheapskate mudafugas, give me plenty of DLC. No just no. Day one DLC takes content out of the game just so the company can make a quick dollar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staten Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 @Rockstar: don't listen to these broke and/or cheapskate mudafugas, give me plenty of DLC. No just no. Day one DLC takes content out of the game just so the company can make a quick dollar. They don't take content out of the main game. While the main game is being developed, another, smaller team, creates the DLC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kill Frenzy! Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 If you don't like dlc, then just don't buy it you annoying bitches.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_roy1985 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 @Rockstar: don't listen to these broke and/or cheapskate mudafugas, give me plenty of DLC. No just no. Day one DLC takes content out of the game just so the company can make a quick dollar. They don't take content out of the main game. While the main game is being developed, another, smaller team, creates the DLC. If there is one thing I will agree with, it's that day 1 dlc is complete bullish. DLC should be a released later to add replayability to the game. Not released immediately so you feel like you only get to experience part of what is available, unless you buy the DLC yourself. I'm not someone that just throws my money around. So when it comes to DLC, I don't even bother unless it is something I feel will add to the game experience and doesn't feel like it was intentionally left out of the original title. Which is why I purchased and enjoyed EFLC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestoneman420 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 ITT: The young and the unemployed have a cry because they can't afford optional additional features. If it were up to you guys, GTA V would never come out. They can't just put every idea they have in the game, because as functional human beings they have new ideas ALL THE TIME. There has to come a time when they wrap up the development, call it a day and release the game. THEN they can get a team to work on add-ons and that what-have-yous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redx165 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 ITT: The young and the unemployed have a cry because they can't afford optional additional features. If it were up to you guys, GTA V would never come out. They can't just put every idea they have in the game, because as functional human beings they have new ideas ALL THE TIME. There has to come a time when they wrap up the development, call it a day and release the game. THEN they can get a team to work on add-ons and that what-have-yous. With people not having the money you do know they will hurt their sales. There can't be a new PlayStation or Xbox cause no one will buy it. There comes a time were you can but now isn't one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkey82 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 (edited) So you love DLC? If it's done right, yeah, DC can add some very interesting spins onto a game. I was asking mkey82 that, because he hasn't given the impression he's a fan. I'm not a fan of DLC, but I'm not a hater, neither. That was my whole damned point /facepalm Back in the day, DLC was called expansions. Sometimes they came for free, but they were almost always sizable content. A different take of the original game, new levels, spins on the storyline etc. That type of content usually was developed AFTER the game had been released and usually it appeared quite independent of the original. It was very easy to ignore such content, because you didn't get the feeling the developer was cutting you short on the original product. Today the tables have turned, DLC term was brought in to replace expansion, as you can't treat a few MB of data as an expansion (when the full game is 5GB+.) So no, I'm not a fan of the DLC as modern gaming industry sees it. And if it wasn't for the "ripped off" feeling in some cases, it would be very easy to ignore it altogether. As for GTAIV and the related discussion, I have presented my points earlier and won't be delving into that matter again. Yeah, if they want to add to the story do it for free, don't nickel and dime the consumer. If R* had released the DLC for free, I wouldnt have peep to say about gta4 or Rockstar. EFLC package had too much content to be released for free, if that's what you were inferring with your comment. By choosing the price point (it's debatable who made the final decision, since MS did effectively buy that product) they shot themselves in the foot, but for that amount of content you simply have to charge something. The problem is obviously they wanted to peddle a gazillion copies, but it didn't turn out that way. If your expectations were objectively too high, your later inability to reach them shouldn't be treated as a failure. All that timed exclusivity bullsh*t really hurt them on EFLC, that's the way I see it. When I say "them" I really mean MS as they were the ones who fronted the money for it. BTW, if anyone wonders why day 1 DLC exists, brace yourselves: any game sells the best during the first week, you're bound to make at least 50% of total sales in those first 7 days. So obviously, DLC is going to sell better if they publish it early. Even if they are little conniving, money grabbing whores. Like the song says, I's all about the Benjamins. Edited October 16, 2012 by mkey82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_E_N_1992 Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 If the DLC is like IV's DLC then that is good acceptable DLC. But all this monthly DLC rubbish (which like COD AND Max Payne 3..) it just bad.. I know if its for linear games, but as GTA is open world then it should get a DLC like IV's did. If V does have DLC's that come out in monthly periods i'll be disappointed. I'd like the FULL game when it comes out & any DLC to be a separate game/story like it was with IV. But i'll be curious to see what is actually in those DLC's e.g. more items for your multiplayer character ? Maybe new co-op missions ? etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyper Posted October 17, 2012 Author Share Posted October 17, 2012 A perfect example of what's wrong with DLCs today is Mafia II. Some of the clothes that were added in one of MAFIA II's DLCs wasn't even properly developed. One of the suits gave your character an old neck from another character. A lot of interesting content was found in the LUA files aswell. Not present in the original game of course. Instead, 8 DLCs was released. This video pretty much explanains it by using a touch of humor.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freezer89 Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Here is a thought of mine posted in another thread few days ago about this situation with possibly smaller DLCs: But really.. if we consider that those single packs costs around 5€ then all three (weapon, vehicle and mission) would be 15€ together. Just as much as one Episode of IV (TBOGT or TLAD) which contains new weapons, vehicles and missions. So if R* decied to do it like this with the small DLCs for a small price then nothing would have changed except for that it's not in one package at once. Of course I prefer the classic method way more than something like that and the chance is much higher that I will also purchase it (I mean something like with IV/EFLC). http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtop...st&p=1061766171 I rather have no DLCs at all, too.. but the chances of that happening are very slim. PS: EFLC is the only one DLC I've ever purchased for any game.. while it isn't even a real DLC. It's more like an expansion pack which is standalone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonp92 Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Here is a thought of mine posted in another thread few days ago about this situation with possibly smaller DLCs: But really.. if we consider that those single packs costs around 5€ then all three (weapon, vehicle and mission) would be 15€ together. Just as much as one Episode of IV (TBOGT or TLAD) which contains new weapons, vehicles and missions. So if R* decied to do it like this with the small DLCs for a small price then nothing would have changed except for that it's not in one package at once. Of course I prefer the classic method way more than something like that and the chance is much higher that I will also purchase it (I mean something like with IV/EFLC). http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtop...st&p=1061766171 I rather have no DLCs at all, too.. but the chances of that happening are very slim. PS: EFLC is the only one DLC I've ever purchased for any game.. while it isn't even a real DLC. It's more like an expansion pack which is standalone. If you bought EFLC solely for the vehicles and weapons,then yes it wouldn't make a difference if R* 3 packs of 5 dollars. But what about the amazing story which came with it. I much prefer the GTA IV way of doing things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokrie Dela Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 I'm actually surprised at the level of ignorance here. What do you guys all do for a living? Are you all unemployed*? Lets say you work at a bar. You work from 6-12. Yet at 12, when you're supposed to be leaving, your boss asks you to cover for someone. Do you say "Yeah sure, don't pay me though, all drinks are free, as i've already worked 6 hours?" Or do you get overtime? Seriously - PROPER DLC - EFLC, UN, etc - has had hours and hours of additional work put into it - animators, writers, coders. Anyone here who's modded the game will know how much work goes into the smallest things. You REALLY expect to be given it FOR FREE?! Why? Why are you so special that you expect you should get somethign for free, forsaking those who work hard on it. Contrary to what Zee says (i dont believe him for a second), Rockstar seem to work hard on their games - they have SOME pride in their work (compare R* to EA and even Zee will have to admit they're better). Sure we get little DLC - superficial stuff like MP skins - for free from time to time, but How many hours of gameplay did EFLC give you? All for about £15! Why don't we just throw our arms up and submit to communism - an extreme note i'll admit - but it all comes down to cost. It costs them to make episodic content (note i do not say "dlc" here). They have to pay wages, they have to pay insurances and utility bills, they have a lot of dispersements to deal with. They'll spend £££ on the episodes. It baffles me people truely believe that they should then get it for free. It's been said before - R* could afford to do so, but the budget for the next game will drop. Then that game will suck. People wont buy - lower budget for the NEXT game. BEfore you know it, they're EA, hiring amateurs out of college, making a half assed project, then selling it and sacking those coders, and hiring a new bunch of cheap workers for the next game. Pull your heads out of your collective asses, get over yourselves * not all of you, but those saying DLC should be free, read above PS please realise i seperate "DLC" from Episodic content. Episodes - new stories, characters etc a la EFLC is what DLC should be - you pay for it and get what you pay for, and then some. But as said, Pre order DLC, exclusive content, money grabs, on disk dlc, removed content DLC, pretty much any EA or Ubisoft DLC, are things i'm strongly against. They should not exist. The only DLC that, imo, should exist, is where you pay a fair price and get sh*tloads for it, like EFLC, like Some of fallout's packs (the pitt, broken steel etc). The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. Click here to view my Poetry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkey82 Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 A perfect example of what's wrong with DLCs today is Mafia II. Mafia II is a bad example because that was supposed to be a beautiful game that ended sodomized by corporate greed instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gran Feft Orto Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 I'm all for complete extra stories like BOGT and features like like Undead Nightmare. And if developers genuinely come up with new ideas/maps at a later date which can increase the game's longetivity then fair enough. But when companies start holding back content and selling it later - that is NOT on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blowtorchrepair Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 (edited) Mokrie Dela said it all. The price of a new games has been hovering at $60 for quite a while. So DLC haters here expect bigger, better, more interactive, and stunning games for a price that has remained static for a decade or more. had GTA IV been initially released with all three episodes, but at a cost of $99.99, I'm sure many would have squealed, myself included. Then think of the extra delay involved to produce ALL of epis before releasing the game... well said Mokrie. Edited October 17, 2012 by blowtorchrepair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanOfFlorance Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 (edited) And we don't want it in GTA That little message under your title annoys me a lot. It's not 'WE', it's 'I'. You're writing it as if we all don't want DLC and that's not the case. I enjoyed the Episodes From Liberty City. Edited October 17, 2012 by Buffaloro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garju67 Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 And we don't want it in GTA That little message under your title annoys me a lot. It's not 'WE', it's 'I'. You're writing it as if we all don't want DLC and that's not the case. I enjoyed the Episodes From Liberty City. Could you guys stop always compare with EFLC? First, EFLC is not a DLC, it's a game. Second, this is not the same content. TLaD and TBoGT are completely new adventure based on GTAIV, it's not the same than a weapons pack, clothes pack etc like Call of Duty and many others games ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zee Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Yeah, for example, EFLC is a weapons and clothes pack with a sh*tty story added to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonp92 Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Yeah, for example, EFLC is a weapons and clothes pack with a sh*tty story added to it. Do you even like GTA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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