Dick Valor Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Dlc is sh*t. That's my opinion. So you'd rather Rockstar do NOTHING with the game post release? Or are you one of those people who think they cut stuff from the main game to use as DLC, because f*cking seriously, look at The Lost and Damned, where would half that stuff even fit in with GTA IV? At what point would Niko join a Biker Gang and ride with the crew? Why couldn't Niko join a biker gang or work a side job as a bouncer at Maisonette? There's no features from EFLC that would not have fit in the vanilla game. As an old school GTA player who detests the trends of the current gen, this is my preference: Big GTA + No DLC > Little GTA + Big DLC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward-Is-A-Flunky45 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Dlc is sh*t. That's my opinion. So you'd rather Rockstar do NOTHING with the game post release? Or are you one of those people who think they cut stuff from the main game to use as DLC, because f*cking seriously, look at The Lost and Damned, where would half that stuff even fit in with GTA IV? At what point would Niko join a Biker Gang and ride with the crew? Why couldn't Niko join a biker gang or work a side job as a bouncer at Maisonette? There's no features from EFLC that would not have fit in the vanilla game. As an old school GTA player who detests the trends of the current gen, this is my preference: Big GTA + No DLC > Little GTA + Big DLC This ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokrie Dela Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Dlc of the size or standard (or more) of EFLC I'm all for. That was WELL worth the money Ubisoft style dlc - an extra mission or car or outfit - no to the power of f*ck off The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. Click here to view my Poetry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Dawg Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Dlc is sh*t. That's my opinion. So you'd rather Rockstar do NOTHING with the game post release? Or are you one of those people who think they cut stuff from the main game to use as DLC, because f*cking seriously, look at The Lost and Damned, where would half that stuff even fit in with GTA IV? At what point would Niko join a Biker Gang and ride with the crew? Why couldn't Niko join a biker gang or work a side job as a bouncer at Maisonette? There's no features from EFLC that would not have fit in the vanilla game. As an old school GTA player who detests the trends of the current gen, this is my preference: Big GTA + No DLC > Little GTA + Big DLC Damn straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acetaminophen Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Dlc is sh*t. That's my opinion. So you'd rather Rockstar do NOTHING with the game post release? Or are you one of those people who think they cut stuff from the main game to use as DLC, because f*cking seriously, look at The Lost and Damned, where would half that stuff even fit in with GTA IV? At what point would Niko join a Biker Gang and ride with the crew? Why couldn't Niko join a biker gang or work a side job as a bouncer at Maisonette? There's no features from EFLC that would not have fit in the vanilla game. As an old school GTA player who detests the trends of the current gen, this is my preference: Big GTA + No DLC > Little GTA + Big DLC no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dildo Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 I don't usually enjoy DLC's because they're overpriced given the amount of new content. very few games do DLC right. most of them just use it as an excuse to suck more money out of wallets for as little work as possible. that said, I wouldn't mind DLC's for GTA V as long as they are nice and meaty. I think GTA IV had good DLC's and I didn't mind paying for them. the only thing about GTA games is that you don't necessarily need DLC's to continue making the game fun. the modding community is huge and you know that (DLC or not) people will make tons of extra content for the game that is high quality and enjoyable. so I'm not worried either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash_735 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Dlc is sh*t. That's my opinion. So you'd rather Rockstar do NOTHING with the game post release? Or are you one of those people who think they cut stuff from the main game to use as DLC, because f*cking seriously, look at The Lost and Damned, where would half that stuff even fit in with GTA IV? At what point would Niko join a Biker Gang and ride with the crew? Why couldn't Niko join a biker gang or work a side job as a bouncer at Maisonette? There's no features from EFLC that would not have fit in the vanilla game. Apart from a Story Aspect, which was the point of the DLC. Niko killed members of The Lost M.C., and Niko was involved with the kidnap of Gracie and blackmailing Gay Tony to get the Diamonds. Niko would never work for Bulgarin as they were enemies. And how about cross over missions? How would they work out? Thanks to the DLC we got to see the Diamond trade off in both TLAD and TBOGT which resulted in two missions, one as Johnny going after Evan's Limo and killing him and stealing the Diamonds and the other as Luis where he has to take out the Broker Chapter of The Lost M.C. before getting Tony back to his place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zee Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 That crossover was kind of weak. Wow members of the criminal underworld sometimes cross paths, amazing storytelling, never been done before at all. I'd rather have Niko's story weave in and out of the Bikers and Gay tony, he was a much better protagonist than Luis Lopez. You could re-work the story so that he dosnt piss off the lost/pegorinos early on, instead working for them THEN pissing them off and killing them all in true GTA fashion, just like claude. Wouldve worked way more to have Niko working for all sorts of gangs to fit his anything-for-a-buck immigrant story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward-Is-A-Flunky45 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 (edited) Dlc is sh*t. That's my opinion. So you'd rather Rockstar do NOTHING with the game post release? Or are you one of those people who think they cut stuff from the main game to use as DLC, because f*cking seriously, look at The Lost and Damned, where would half that stuff even fit in with GTA IV? At what point would Niko join a Biker Gang and ride with the crew? Why couldn't Niko join a biker gang or work a side job as a bouncer at Maisonette? There's no features from EFLC that would not have fit in the vanilla game. Apart from a Story Aspect, which was the point of the DLC. Niko killed members of The Lost M.C., and Niko was involved with the kidnap of Gracie and blackmailing Gay Tony to get the Diamonds. Niko would never work for Bulgarin as they were enemies. And how about cross over missions? How would they work out? Thanks to the DLC we got to see the Diamond trade off in both TLAD and TBOGT which resulted in two missions, one as Johnny going after Evan's Limo and killing him and stealing the Diamonds and the other as Luis where he has to take out the Broker Chapter of The Lost M.C. before getting Tony back to his place. LoL... I still think Dlc's are sh*t. Edited October 16, 2012 by Edward-Is-A-Flunky45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash_735 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Man, some of you guys are so anti-DLC you come out with crap, let's look at another Big Rockstar DLC. UNDEAD NIGHTMARE, please, fully explain to me in the best details you can how the features of that DLC could fit into the normal RDR game. And why the f*ck didn't they putted that in the game ? BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY ONE PROTAGONIST!! How can you show the counter effects in the story with only ONE person? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zee Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Undead Nightmare could be a seperate mode in the menu you unlock after you complete the RDR storyline.Boom. No DLC needed because it was already in the game you paid $60 already for. Unless you like just giving game companies money out of the kindness of your heart, in which case just write them a cheque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash_735 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Undead Nightmare could be a seperate mode in the menu you unlock after you complete the RDR storyline.Boom. No DLC needed because it was already in the game you paid $60 already for. Unless you like just giving game companies money out of the kindness of your heart, in which case just write them a cheque. ...Your trolling level just went full retard. edit: Why do you still pretend to be from Britain Mate? You enjoy that lie Mate? Mate, Mate, Mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward-Is-A-Flunky45 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Undead Nightmare could be a seperate mode in the menu you unlock after you complete the RDR storyline.Boom. No DLC needed because it was already in the game you paid $60 already for. Unless you like just giving game companies money out of the kindness of your heart, in which case just write them a cheque. ...Your trolling level just went full retard. edit: Why do you still pretend to be from Britain Mate? You enjoy that lie Mate? Mate, Mate, Mate. That's the point i agree with Zee/ You're just calling people retarded because they don't agree with you... Get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonp92 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 ^Exactly. DLC is there to extend a game's life spand. GTA IV was a good example of that for the Xbox users, to whom it was released with about 6 months time inbetween them. Releasing both at the same time 6 months after for the PC and PS3 was a very stupid move. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that EFLC would have sold better if it weren't a timed XBOX exclusive. However if Microsoft hadn't paid R* we might not even have had the DLC at all, so therefore I'm gratefull for Microsoft's greed. Thank you Microsoft. Without your money R* wouldn't have shown other game developers how to make DLC. Oh, my good Lord. People are thanking M$ for DLC. Tis a sad day for gaming indeed. Not people. Me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatestEver23 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Undead Nightmare could be a seperate mode in the menu you unlock after you complete the RDR storyline.Boom. No DLC needed because it was already in the game you paid $60 already for. Unless you like just giving game companies money out of the kindness of your heart, in which case just write them a cheque. ...Your trolling level just went full retard. edit: Why do you still pretend to be from Britain Mate? You enjoy that lie Mate? Mate, Mate, Mate. That's the point i agree with Zee/ You're just calling people retarded because they don't agree with you... Get over it. Zee is such a miserable c*nt, every post I read of his he's talking about giving money to R* blah blah blah. But he's the one that pays for a plane ticket to fly to America (supposedly) just to BUY MP3 And throw it away. Yup I think it's safe to say I won't be taking any money spending advice from Zee anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kill Frenzy! Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 You guys are so stupid, why you guy don't like the DLC, why is DLC so bad? Okey, I really don't like multi protagonists but that won't happen anyways, R* isn't that stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash_735 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Undead Nightmare could be a seperate mode in the menu you unlock after you complete the RDR storyline.Boom. No DLC needed because it was already in the game you paid $60 already for. Unless you like just giving game companies money out of the kindness of your heart, in which case just write them a cheque. ...Your trolling level just went full retard. edit: Why do you still pretend to be from Britain Mate? You enjoy that lie Mate? Mate, Mate, Mate. That's the point i agree with Zee/ You're just calling people retarded because they don't agree with you... Get over it. That's mainly for Zee and his insane idea that the DLC that was finished 9 Months after the game came out should have been an unlockable on the Game for free. And again, all you DLC haters, what about the story? GTA IV and EFLC was showing three stories happening at the time, so you got an idea of how one characters actions affect another and how that gets twisted, when deep down, they're all pretty alike but made to fight off against each other. Missions like No Love Lost where Niko kills Michael because he was ordered to by Faustin which in turn Billy turns around and blames the AOD for which leads to the raid and the finding of the Heroin stash, etc, etc, all these little connections that are explained by viewing the same time period from three different people. That can't be done in the main game as there's only one main character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkey82 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 And again, all you DLC haters One has to love this level of discourse. If you're not 100% for it, you're immediately a hater. GTAF is getting more and more alike USA during the cold war period. Prosecution and sentencing based on third hand hearsay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staten Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 And again, all you DLC haters One has to love this level of discourse. If you're not 100% for it, you're immediately a hater. GTAF is getting more and more alike USA during the cold war period. Prosecution and sentencing based on third hand hearsay. So you love DLC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash_735 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 And again, all you DLC haters One has to love this level of discourse. If you're not 100% for it, you're immediately a hater. GTAF is getting more and more alike USA during the cold war period. Prosecution and sentencing based on third hand hearsay. Well what would you say? I don't like all DLC, I am completely against Capcom like DLC where they sell you On Disc content, I'm not a huge fan of pre-order DLC and store specific DLC, etc, I've even pointed out multiple times how Rockstar's Multi Player DLC isn't that good. But I'm not going to sit here and be stubborn and all like "ALL DLC IS BAD, MONEY GRABBING HUNGRY COMPANYS AGAINST ME!". There's good DLC and yes, a very large amount of Bad DLC out there, I consider The Lost and Damned and The Ballad of Gay Tony and Undead Nightmare to be pretty damn good DLC. So you love DLC? If it's done right, yeah, DC can add some very interesting spins onto a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zee Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 And again, all you DLC haters One has to love this level of discourse. If you're not 100% for it, you're immediately a hater. GTAF is getting more and more alike USA during the cold war period. Prosecution and sentencing based on third hand hearsay. Even if you calmly explain yourself, they dismiss you as a troll. It really is quite a pathetic way to debate someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatestEver23 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 And again, all you DLC haters One has to love this level of discourse. If you're not 100% for it, you're immediately a hater. GTAF is getting more and more alike USA during the cold war period. Prosecution and sentencing based on third hand hearsay. Even if you calmly explain yourself, they dismiss you as a troll. It really is quite a pathetic way to debate someone. True, but in your case you are a hater. And you take it to the extreme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash_735 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 And again, all you DLC haters One has to love this level of discourse. If you're not 100% for it, you're immediately a hater. GTAF is getting more and more alike USA during the cold war period. Prosecution and sentencing based on third hand hearsay. Well what would you say? I don't like all DLC, I am completely against Capcom like DLC where they sell you On Disc content, I'm not a huge fan of pre-order DLC and store specific DLC, etc, I've even pointed out multiple times how Rockstar's Multi Player DLC isn't that good. But I'm not going to sit here and be stubborn and all like "ALL DLC IS BAD, MONEY GRABBING HUNGRY COMPANYS AGAINST ME!". There's good DLC and yes, a very large amount of Bad DLC out there, I consider The Lost and Damned and The Ballad of Gay Tony and Undead Nightmare to be pretty damn good DLC. So you love DLC? If it's done right, yeah, DC can add some very interesting spins onto a game. Quoting my post for the next page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward-Is-A-Flunky45 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 And again, all you DLC haters One has to love this level of discourse. If you're not 100% for it, you're immediately a hater. GTAF is getting more and more alike USA during the cold war period. Prosecution and sentencing based on third hand hearsay. Well what would you say? I don't like all DLC, I am completely against Capcom like DLC where they sell you On Disc content, I'm not a huge fan of pre-order DLC and store specific DLC, etc, I've even pointed out multiple times how Rockstar's Multi Player DLC isn't that good. But I'm not going to sit here and be stubborn and all like "ALL DLC IS BAD, MONEY GRABBING HUNGRY COMPANYS AGAINST ME!". There's good DLC and yes, a very large amount of Bad DLC out there, I consider The Lost and Damned and The Ballad of Gay Tony and Undead Nightmare to be pretty damn good DLC. So you love DLC? If it's done right, yeah, DC can add some very interesting spins onto a game. Yes, there's good Dlc.. But why they have to be paid ? We already bought the game why we have to pay for a piece of sh*t for the game ? If you want to release dlc's ? Do it. But put them for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeFail Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 And again, all you DLC haters One has to love this level of discourse. If you're not 100% for it, you're immediately a hater. GTAF is getting more and more alike USA during the cold war period. Prosecution and sentencing based on third hand hearsay. Even if you calmly explain yourself, they dismiss you as a troll. It really is quite a pathetic way to debate someone. True, but in your case you are a hater. And you take it to the extreme. And at times you take R* asskissing to the extreme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zee Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Yeah, if they want to add to the story do it for free, don't nickel and dime the consumer. If R* had released the DLC for free, I wouldnt have peep to say about gta4 or Rockstar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatestEver23 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 And again, all you DLC haters One has to love this level of discourse. If you're not 100% for it, you're immediately a hater. GTAF is getting more and more alike USA during the cold war period. Prosecution and sentencing based on third hand hearsay. Even if you calmly explain yourself, they dismiss you as a troll. It really is quite a pathetic way to debate someone. True, but in your case you are a hater. And you take it to the extreme. And at times you take R* asskissing to the extreme. I know that wasn't directed towards me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward-Is-A-Flunky45 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Yeah, if they want to add to the story do it for free, don't nickel and dime the consumer. If R* had released the DLC for free, I wouldnt have peep to say about gta4 or Rockstar. Rockstar became an Activision in this 4 years... They were never like that before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash_735 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 And again, all you DLC haters One has to love this level of discourse. If you're not 100% for it, you're immediately a hater. GTAF is getting more and more alike USA during the cold war period. Prosecution and sentencing based on third hand hearsay. Well what would you say? I don't like all DLC, I am completely against Capcom like DLC where they sell you On Disc content, I'm not a huge fan of pre-order DLC and store specific DLC, etc, I've even pointed out multiple times how Rockstar's Multi Player DLC isn't that good. But I'm not going to sit here and be stubborn and all like "ALL DLC IS BAD, MONEY GRABBING HUNGRY COMPANYS AGAINST ME!". There's good DLC and yes, a very large amount of Bad DLC out there, I consider The Lost and Damned and The Ballad of Gay Tony and Undead Nightmare to be pretty damn good DLC. So you love DLC? If it's done right, yeah, DC can add some very interesting spins onto a game. Yes, there's good Dlc.. But why they have to be paid ? We already bought the game why we have to pay for a piece of sh*t for the game ? If you want to release dlc's ? Do it. But put them for free. Because extra work has gone into them, unless you think people should work for free? EFLC contained a bucket load of new music added to the Radio, how do you think they got them? Record Labels don't exactly just let companies use them for free. Occasionally you will get Free DLC, even Rockstar have done it themselves, once with RDR to say thanks for the support and once with Max Payne 3 as a desperate push to get more people playing Multi Player. But the likes of TLAD/TBOGT and Undead Nihtmare which contain a whole new chapter worth of story missions, dialogue, interactions, etc, did take some time to make and add on, and again, the price was fair, especially Undead Nightmare which was HALF the price of TLAD and TBOGT and even then you get sales for the DLC, with TLAD and TBOGT going for $5 each, if you still don't think it's worth that, then there's not much I can really say but I do find it sad how a lot of you are criticizing the GTA and RDR DLC meanwhile Activision recycle old Maps from previous COD games and sell them back to people for a HIGHER price than these DLC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staten Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 So you love DLC? If it's done right, yeah, DC can add some very interesting spins onto a game. I was asking mkey82 that, because he hasn't given the impression he's a fan. Anyway, I agree with you. DLC done well can improve a game. The EFLC show this. It's sad that some people are just kneejerk cynics, and have this misconception that any features in a DLC are "stripped out" of the main game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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