Doom 4

[Flight180Victm]

id is finally making Doom 4! I am guessing it has been in development since late 2007 early 2008. Now, there is a lot to type about this game, so I am going to just copy and paste most of the info from Wikipedia.

 

Doom 4 is the upcoming multi-platform installment of the Doom series by id Software. The game will use the company's new id Tech 5 engine and is slated for simultaneous release on Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360.

 

The game was announced as in production on May 7, 2008, after John Carmack hinted at it at QuakeCon on August 3, 2007.

 

id's CEO (Todd Hollenshead) suggested that, like Doom 2, it will take place on Earth, and will feature gameplay more akin to the original Doom games rather than the horror styled gameplay of Doom 3.

 

On August 1, 2008, John Carmack, the co-founder and technical director of id Software said that Doom 4 will look three times better than Rage does, as it runs at 30 frames per second, on Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, rather than 60 that Rage targets. In Windows, Doom 4 will run at 60 frames per second with state-of-the-art hardware. In 2009 he revealed that the multiplayer component is being developed separately and will run at 60 frames per second.

 

On April 10, 2009 GameSpot published an interview with id Software's CEO Todd Hollenshead in which he revealed that Doom 4 was "deep in development." He stated however that the game was "not [in] pre-production". The development team is "relatively new" and id is "still actually hiring people" onto the Doom 4 team. GameSpot asked Hollenshead if Doom 4 would be "a sequel? A reboot? A prequel?" and his response was "It's not a sequel to Doom 3, but it's not a reboot either. Doom 3 was sort of a reboot. It's a little bit different than those."

 

On June 23, 2009, ZeniMax Media, best known for Bethesda Softworks, acquired id Software and announced that all future id Software games will be published by Bethesda Softworks, Doom 4 being one (in addition to Rage and future Quake titles).

 

During QuakeCon 2009, Hollenshead announced that there would not be any news released for Doom 4 until the next QuakeCon in 2010. But during the beginning of QuakeCon 2010 Hollenshead said the development team was not ready to give a demonstration on the game. Tim Willits did however talk to the press in May 2010 to boast that "it'll be even more awesome than Rage."

 

In a 2009 interview, actor Brad Hawkins said "I do know we are dealing with a post war/post apocalyptic event that civilians and military are fighting for their survival."

 

id Software's technical guru John Carmack has told OPM UK anyone expecting to wait a long time for Doom 4 will have a shorter wait than first thought. Carmack told the magazine that the shooter should not take as long to get out the door, unlike Rage, which was announced in 2007 at QuakeCon, and later released in October 2011.

 

At E3 2011, John Carmack was interviewed with GameSpot and mentioned that "as soon as Rage ships, the core tech team moves over to start making things happen on the Doom 4 project." In addition, Carmack said that Doom 4, with regards to consoles, will run at 30 frame/s for single player and 60 frame/s in multiplayer, stating that "you can't have 30 guys crawling all over you at 60 frames per second at this graphics technology level because it's painful. -- So [in single player] we can have 30 demons crawling all over you on there."

 

At QuakeCon 2011, John Carmack said that "there is really not any news" on Doom 4 and that he wanted to devote this year solely to Rage. He also mentioned that Doom 4 will be using a new scripting language that is based on C++ and called it "super-script". This so-called "super-script" is a subset of C++ with features like "scheduling", "full performance" and "type safety". Carmack added that once Rage ships, its development team will move to Doom 4 – to speed up on that project. Doom 4 might also feature dedicated servers unlike Rage.

 

On 28 February 2012, some alleged screenshots were released on Official Xbox Magazine UK's website, but the images were discredited by id Software's creative director Matthew Hooper via Twitter, by saying "Those images have nothing to do with what you're gonna see in Doom 4. When we officially show things, you'll see awesome."

 

Update Credit to theomenofficial for this link

http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2012/10/doom-4-sh...it-almost-here/

 

I will update this as we get more info.

Edited November 20, 2012 by Flight180Victm

[nightwalker83]

I thought Doom 2 took place on Earth! I can't wait for Doom 4.

[Flight180Victm]

I thought Doom 2 took place on Earth! I can't wait for Doom 4.

It did, and I think it's great that it will take place on earth again!

[G The Generous]

old news are old. you should make a topic when there is good enough offical/leak information

[BullworthAcademy]

Doom 3 BFG Edition is coming out next week. We will get to play Doom 3 in HD

[nightwalker83]

 

I thought Doom 2 took place on Earth! I can't wait for Doom 4.

It did, and I think it's great that it will take place on earth again!

Yeah, I couldn't remember which Doom had taken place on Earth. The weird thing is that every second game seems to be on Earth, as well as every first game being on Mars.

 

Doom: Mars

Doom II: Earth

Doom III: Mars

Doom IV: Earth

 

Edit:

 

I just bought the ID Software pack off Steam, 24 games.

Edited October 11, 2012 by nightwalker83

[Flight180Victm]

old news are old. you should make a topic when there is good enough offical/leak information

Wow, sorry for wasting your time.

[Flight180Victm]

I thought Doom 2 took place on Earth! I can't wait for Doom 4.

It did, and I think it's great that it will take place on earth again!

Yeah, I couldn't remember which Doom had taken place on Earth. The weird thing is that every second game seems to be on Earth, as well as every first game being on Mars.

 

Doom: Mars

Doom II: Earth

Doom III: Mars

Doom IV: Earth

 

Edit:

 

I just bought the ID Software pack off Steam, 24 games.

I think maybe the 5th one should take place in just Hell. It would be so cool to go to the deepest and darkest depths of Hell. Maybe the last Boss you battle could even be Satan himself!

[Pyrrhic]

Looking forward to it. I hope it has the same retro feel to the other ones. Had some great times on Doom 1, only played a bit of 2 and have never played 3 actually. Still, should be a great game.

[Gtaghost22]

Not really a fan of anything first-person, but i might get it, never was a fan of Doom but it ain't a generic military shooter at least, looks interesting.

[Mr Rabbit]

yaaay, Imo ID have gone downnhill, their old Dooms and Quakes were much better than modern ones but still, looking forward to it, a lot of history on doom for me, first game I ever completed was doom 2, still one of my favourite games of all time

[Flight180Victm]

Great opinions everybody, keep em coming.

 

Doom was actually the very first video game I ever played. So i think Doom will always have a special place in my heart.

[m8son]

I never played Doom except once when I was little I tried Doom 3 and about sh*t myself. I can't remember anything though except for watching my dad fight some massive monster. Are these any fun, or are they just generic shooters? I'm looking into Doom 3 BFG edition, so I'd like to see what you guys think.

[Vanzant]

If you want the best out of Doom 3 you got to play it with headphones on and in the dark.

[ThirstyHyena]

Doom 4, can't wait for you! Doom 2 was one of the first 3d games I've played and I loved it, I also remember I played some free online game called Doom 2000 or something liked that also but probably wouldn't if I played it today, and my favorite is none other than Doom 3, damn I love that game, it had some great graphics for the time and was I scared of it.

[nightwalker83]

Doom 4, can't wait for you! Doom 2 was one of the first 3d games I've played and I loved it, I also remember I played some free online game called Doom 2000 or something liked that also but probably wouldn't if I played it today, and my favorite is none other than Doom 3, damn I love that game, it had some great graphics for the time and was I scared of it.

Yeah, and the best part was it was 3d! Using none of the stuff needed for today's games to use 3D graphics.

[Flight180Victm]

If you want the best out of Doom 3 you got to play it with headphones on and in the dark.

Im getting Doom BFG edition so...Noted.

[BullworthAcademy]

xLeprechaunGaming has early Doom 3 BFG Edition gameplay!

He also has Multiplayer gameplay and settings!

Edited October 14, 2012 by theomenofficial

[BullworthAcademy]

Achievements released for Doom 3 BFG Edition!

 

 

 DOOMed Recruit

Complete the DOOM 3 single player campaign on Recruit  

 

DOOMed Marine

Complete the DOOM 3 single player campaign on Marine  

 

DOOMed Veteran

Complete the DOOM 3 single player campaign on Veteran  

 

DOOMed Nightmare

Complete the DOOM 3 single player campaign on Nightmare 

 

DOOMed Collector

Collect every PDA in DOOM 3 

 

I Like to Watch

Find all video logs in DOOM 3  

 

That was Close!

Kill an enemy with 1 health remaining in DOOM 3, RoE, or Lost Mission  

 

Goody Finder

Open all storage lockers in DOOM 3 

 

Unarmed Badass

Kill 20 enemies with the fists/melee hands in DOOM 3 

 

To Be or Not to Be

Kill the scientist trapped next to the Reactor Control Room in DOOM 3 

 

Double the Fun!

Kill 2 Imps with one shotgun blast in DOOM 3, RoE, or Lost Mission 

 

Killing time

Score 25000 on Super Turbo Turkey Puncher 3 in DOOM 3 or RoE 

 

Boomtastic

Blow up 50 barrels in the DOOM 3, RoE, or Lost Mission campaigns  

 

Ready for Action!

Get the BFG-9000 from Security Chief's office in DOOM 3 

 

Not a Scratch

Complete a level without taking any damage in DOOM 3, RoE, or Lost Mission (except Mars City) 

 

RAGE

Find the RAGE logo in the Lost Mission 

 

Speed Run

Complete the DOOM 3 single player campaign in 10 hours or less 

 

Sticky Situation

Defeat the Vagary boss in DOOM 3 

 

Cookie Stealer

Defeat Guardian boss in DOOM 3 

 

You're Not My Boss!

Defeat Sabaoth boss in DOOM 3 

 

Big Boy

Defeat Cyberdemon boss in DOOM 3 

 

Bot Buddy

Keep a Sentry Bot alive to its destination in DOOM 3, RoE, or Lost Mission (except Mars City) 

 

Ripped!

Use the chainsaw to kill 20 enemies in DOOM 3  

 

All of Us

Find the id logo secret room in DOOM 3 

 

You Laugh, It Works

Find the bloody handiwork of Betruger (in Delta 4 Hallway) in DOOM 3  

 

Turncoat

Get 2 demons to fight each other in DOOM 3, RoE, or Lost Mission 

 

Soulfood

Use the Soul Cube to defeat 20 enemies in DOOM 3 

 

Evil Recruit

Complete the RoE campaign on Recruit  

 

Evil Marine

Complete the RoE campaign on Marine  

 

Evil Veteran

Complete the RoE campaign on Veteran  

 

Evil Nightmare

Complete the RoE campaign on Nightmare  

 

Evil Collector

Collect every PDA in the RoE campaign 

 

Too Slow, Fool!

Kill 5 enemies at once while in Hell Time in RoE  

 

Gimme Time!

Defeat the Helltime Hunter in RoE  

 

Gimme Power!

Defeat the Berserk Hunter in RoE  

 

Shocking!

Defeat the Invulnerability Hunter in RoE  

 

Eat This!

Defeat the Maledict boss in RoE  

 

Play Catch

Kill 20 enemies with projectiles launched from the Grabber in RoE  

 

Fists of Fury

Use the Artifact with Berserk ability to punch out 20 enemies in RoE  

 

Lost Recruit

Complete the Lost Mission campaign on Recruit  

 

Lost Marine

Complete the Lost Mission campaign on Marine  

 

Lost Veteran

Complete the Lost Mission campaign on Veteran  

 

Lost Nightmare

Complete the Lost Mission campaign on Nightmare  

 

Lost Collector

Collect every PDA in the Lost Mission campaign  

 

Telefragged!

Kill an enemy player by jumping into a teleporter after them in DOOM 3 Multiplayer 

 

Crushed!

Catch an enemy player in the Reactor of Frag Chamber in DOOM 3 Multiplayer  

 

Ninja Killer

Kill 5 enemy players while using Invisibility in DOOM 3 Multiplayer  

 

Clean Sheet

Complete a DOOM 3 Multiplayer match without dying  

 

Berserked!

Use Berserk to kill a player in DOOM 3 Multiplayer  

 

2 Deaths - 1 Gun

Kill two enemies in the same room with a rocket in DOOM 3 Multiplayer 

 

 

Edited October 15, 2012 by theomenofficial

[Th3MaN1]

I am raping Doom 2 even to this day. I hope ID will do a good job with Doom 4!

[faizanali]

I loved the whole DOOM series it revolutionized the whole FPS Genre.

[BullworthAcademy]

http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2012/10/doom-4-sh...it-almost-here/

[ptiko]

This is pretty exciting, I really cant wait to see what I.D. Churns out

[Flight180Victm]

http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2012/10/doom-4-sh...it-almost-here/

Thanks! I will include this in my post.

[BullworthAcademy]

 

We’ve also learned that in late 2011, after working on Doom 4 for three years, the studio behind the legendary series decided to reboot their newest game completely. Bethesda confirmed this to Kotaku yesterday.

 

“An earlier version of Doom 4 did not exhibit the quality and excitement that Id and Bethesda intend to deliver and that Doom fans worldwide expect,” Bethesda's vice president of marketing and public relations Pete Hines said in a statement to Kotaku. “As a result, Id refocused its efforts on a new version of Doom 4 that promises to meet the very high expectations everyone has for this game and this franchise. When we’re ready to talk about the Doom 4 Id is making, we will let folks know.”

 

We’ve heard a great deal more about what’s happened at Id over the past few years, and bits and pieces about what’s happening now. Today we can share it all.

 

Call of Doom

 

At QuakeCon of 2007, Id co-founder and legendary programmer John Carmack said Doom 4 was on the way. In 2008 they made it official, and over the coming years, Id dedicated one team to Doom 4 and another to their other shooter, Rage, which would be released in 2011. Both games were built on Carmack’s fancy new Id Tech 5 engine.

 

According to one source, Id originally imagined Doom 4 as a “rework” of Doom 2. This would establish a pattern started by 2004's Doom 3, which Id saw as a re-imagination of the original Doom. In Doom 4, you’d play as an average human being who was gradually cajoled into joining the Resistance—a ragtag group of civilians and military—to help fight legions of demons that were invading Earth. It was... cinematic.

 

“People referenced Call of Duty,” said the source. “There were jokes like, ‘Oh, it’s Call of Doom.’ They referenced it because of the amount it was scripted—there were a lot of scripted set pieces. There was kind of the recognition that in order to be a big shooter these days, you have to have some amount of the big, bombastic movie experience that people get pulled through.“

 

Another source criticized this approach, telling me that it all felt rather mediocre: “The coolest part... were the horror and shock elements, unfortunately bookended by somewhat pointless and contrived shooting galleries of hoards of uninteresting enemies.”

 

One sequence was described to me as “the obligatory vehicle scene” in which players would take the gunner’s seat of a car and shoot demons as the computer drove. If you think that sounds rather generic, you’re not alone. But a source assured me that there were some imaginative ideas in there too.

 

“The big thing [id] tried to do was not seem like, ‘Here’s a bunch of demons,’” the source said. “There was lots of concept art and prototype missions set up showing different parts of the earth being taken over, being warped and twisted into a hellish reimagining... It’s not just the demons: everything around you is changing. Humans are starting to struggle to go through an environment that is partially familiar, partially unknown now.”

 

These ideas might seem more than partially familiar if you’ve seen the screenshots that leaked in late February of 2012. Don’t get too excited, though. Those were all out of date long before they hit the Internet.

 

The Reboot

 

In late 2011, word came down that Doom 4 was getting a reboot. Id had just finished Rage, and according to three sources, leadership at the studio hadn't paid much attention to Doom 4 over the years. When Id's management finally did look at the game, they decided that it didn't live up to their expectations. It wasn’t good enough. And they needed to change direction.

 

“I kinda think maybe the studio heads were so distracted on shipping Rage that they were blind to the happenings of Doom, and the black hole of mediocrity [the team] was swirling around,” said a source.

 

“[studio leadership was] coming over and looking at Doom 4,” said another source, “and it was like, ‘Now that I’m actually looking at this after ignoring it for three years, I see a ton of things I want to change.’”

 

All of my sources described Id as a company full of talent but lacking direction. Politics and mismanagement at the top of the studio had trickled down and negatively impacted all of their projects, so many people at Id were psyched about the reboot, even if it meant changing or discarding the work they’d done, one source told me.

 

“It was a very long overdue reboot that was accompanied by internal team management changes,” the source said. “Morale got a lot better during this short time as people were encouraged to participate and there were cool ideas floating around.”

 

At one point, a source told me, the Doom 4 team had a big meeting in which company leaders talked about what Doom meant to them. John Carmack got up in front of everyone and said something like, "Doom means two things: demons and shotguns."

 

Meanwhile, the Rage team had already started planning out Rage 2, a source said. But when the first game was released to tepid critical and commercial response, executives at ZeniMax decided to start getting more involved with Id’s development process. Over the next couple of months, ZeniMax met with Id’s leadership, cancelled Rage 2, and downsized plans for Rage’s DLC, the source said.

 

The new plan, as of January 2012: refocus the studio, postpone or cancel all other projects, and get everyone on the fourth Doom game.

 

“Rage came out, and it wasn't the splash success that everyone hoped it would be,” one source said. “Eventually what kind of came down was, ZeniMax said, ‘Okay, look, we gave you guys a bunch of chances and you guys are having a lot of trouble managing multiple projects, so you guys are gonna have one project: Just do Doom 4.’”

 

“There was not only effectively another creative reboot, but a tech reboot,” said another source. Although this wasn't officially a reboot of the game, there was a new team and new code, so for some staff it felt like one.

 

“[id] started from the Rage code base, and took some big leaps back in certain areas of tech. [id] spent a lot of time merging Doom features to Rage.”

 

One source described a meeting in which ZeniMax executives told Id leads that “Doom 4 can and should be as big as Skyrim,” as far as both sales and cultural impact. (Skyrim, Bethesda’s massive role-playing game, shipped 7 million copies during its first week on shelves in November of 2011. And everyone had heard about it—not just hardcore gamers.)

 

For at least a few Id staffers, the morale boost earned by the initial Doom 4 reboot didn’t last very long. One source described the scene as a “power struggle,” as managers from both Rage and Doom 4 tried to figure out how to merge their teams.

 

“You’ve got these different cultures and they’re all kind of jammed together,” said one source.

 

A different source described the direction of the game as a mess, even after the reboot.

 

“Larger creature ambitions turned into mediocre garden variety behaviors,” the source said. “[The story] again became lame and unfit for a late night sci-fi channel, and the team didn't feel a whole lot of ownership and contribution to the project. Cue the exodus of talent leaving ever since.”

 

“Most of [id’s] top talent has left or been fired,” said another unrelated source.

 

“I know that people were leaving steadily through last year,” said a third.

 

Doom 4 is now planned for the next generation of consoles, sources told me, and the actual release date is up in the air. At QuakeCon in August of 2012, Carmack said Doom 4 will be “done when it’s done,” but sources say “done” might be a long time coming.

 

“[id was] never even close to a shipped product,” said a source. “A half dozen mediocre levels was the most [id] had to show.”

 

“It’s not going well,” said another source. “Poor management, poor organization... [id] just couldn’t nail down design... It’s just a mess.”

 

Two sources told me that earlier this year, frustrated with the lack of progress on Doom 4, ZeniMax came to Id with an ultimatum: make something happen, or else. The specifics of the threat are unclear, but there are plenty of rumors floating around Dallas, Texas, where Id is based.

 

One rumor is that ZeniMax threatened to shut down Id if they don’t finish the game within the next year, but two people told me that seems unlikely.

 

What’s more likely, sources told me, is that if Id can’t get Doom 4 together, ZeniMax could clean house and refocus the company to work on tech like the Id Tech 5 engine, which is currently being used for multiple projects at studios owned by ZeniMax.

 

But Bethesda says that Doom 4 is still happening, and at least one of my sources remains optimistic that despite what’s happened so far, the game will be released... one day.

 

“They’ll keep Doom 4 going,” the source said. “They really believe that if they can get the internal strife and disorganization ironed out, Doom 4 has a lot of value... What eventually emerges could be anyone’s guess.”

[Flight180Victm]

Okay update, It looks like Doom 4 is in Development Hell and could even be cancelled. Here is a link to the website that says this and I will copy and paste what it says. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doom_4

 

Production reboot and development hell

In April of 2013, Kotaku published an article describing Doom 4 as trapped in "development hell". Citing connections to id, the article claims that Doom 4 has suffered under mismanagement, and that development was completely restarted in 2011. Inside sources described the pre-2011 version, which was to portray the uprising of hell on Earth, as heavily scripted and cinematic, comparing it to the Call of Duty franchise. The pre-2011 version was criticized as mediocre, but the sources also described the new version as "lame" and a "mess".

 

Sh*t, Omen beat me to it. Looks like you're more up to date on this than me.

[BullworthAcademy]

I am a really big fan of Doom.

In other Doom related news, I got the BFG Edition a few weeks ago as an early gift for my birthday but now I have to wait for 2 more weeks until I can play it.