GTA 5 PC ?

[Finn 7 five 11]

 

you have to agree that the engine was developed for the xbox and then ported around to other platforms. So even if you have people working in parallel on a sequel, do you think the PC version got the same man hours allotment as the other platforms did? The ratio is more probably 4 or 5 to 1, in favor of the consoles; xbox taking the lead again, probably.

Well yeah you have a point there, the engine would have been made for the Xbox originally and there probably were more man hours put into the console version so it is still a port, every game that is on more than one platform is a port from somewhere.

But i wouldn't and won't refer to it as such simply because of the connotation the word carries.

 

 

What makes MP3 a console game is the typical over the shoulder camera angle, the typical action adventure genre, the controls, the heavy movie aspect of the game.

Well i don't really think this plays any part in the definition of a port, you are half stating that PC should be subject to sh*tty camera angles and crappy storylines.

I agree with you on the technical side of it, but the rest is nonsense in my opinion, no platform has set rules on what features can or can't be in game, or what kind of storyline it requires.

Edited October 11, 2012 by finn4life

[DlZZEE]

It's GTA V, not GTA 5, when will peoople learn to write Grand Theft Auto titles in Roman numerals.

[polymekhanos]

at this point i dont care if it is even runs on a dishwasher. i just want to play the damn game...

[GTA-Fanboy]

I predict that it will be announced for all three main platforms with a release date (

so PS3, xbox 360 and wii U?

100% Pure troll

good job

 

 

[mkey82]

Well i don't really think this plays any part in the definition of a port, you are half stating that PC should be subject to sh*tty camera angles and crappy storylines.

I agree with you on the technical side of it, but the rest is nonsense in my opinion, no platform has set rules on what features can or can't be in game, or what kind of storyline it requires.

This is what I'm calling "pulling stuff out of one's proverbial arse" type of discussion.

 

Anything other then over the shoulder camera constitutes a "sh*tty camera?"

Anything else then 80% cutscenes and 20% actual gameplay constitutes "crappy storylines?"

You consider features such as cover systems, slowly moving enemies, interfaces and predominant genres not to be console and console input methods related at all? Are you taking a piss or you're just natural?

 

I read stupid stuff on this board, but this is something new. You obviously need some lessons in PC gaming, but I'm not giving them. I shall not take part in this type of discussions, have a nice day.

[Freezer89]

 

It's GTA V, not GTA 5, when will peoople learn to write Grand Theft Auto titles in Roman numerals.

Does it really matter? It's the same either way..

It's pronounced Grand Theft Auto Five, that's what matters.

 

(And actually it's GTAV with no spaces inbetween, if we are already that picky)

 

 

And about the PC port discussion:

MP3 may be console based (camera angles, movement etc) but it still doesn't mean it's a straight port from console. I think there are different definitions of "port".

 

What I meant is that they don't just use the code from console and only "optimize" it for the PC (e.g. higher resolution of textures), like they did with GTA IV. Also it would take months for that and not like 2 weeks or so.

Edited October 11, 2012 by Freezer89

[Vinova]

Well, i've just built a new gaming PC and just got rid of my xbox 360. Silly move, probably? I've been playing the hell out of GTA: IV and i'm loving it. I originally completed the game on xbox, but since playing the PC version, I don't think I could bring myself to buy the game for xbox; I say that now tho.

 

I'm hoping they do bring the PC version out 1-2 months later at the most or simultaneously with console: then I'll buy it for PC. But if it's 6 months or more later wait? Then probably not!

Edited October 11, 2012 by HoofingNinja

[mkey82]

What I meant is that they don't just use the code from console and only "optimize" it for the PC (e.g. higher resolution of textures), like they did with GTA IV. Also it would take months for that and not like 2 weeks or so.

You obviously can not use the "code from console" directly on the PC, you need to rewrite it (partly.)

 

The problem is the difference in the technical aspects: console games are CPU heavy, because consoles are built like that. Their CPU takes much of the workload; they are also tight on memory so that every game developed for a console will have to take that into account. I won't even mention the control input limitations or the fact an average console gamer sits about 2-3 meters farther from the screen then a PC gamer does.

 

Proper PC games usually are rather easy going when it comes to the CPU (crysis being the prime example of this as one of the PC gaming flagships) and rely more on the GPU. The control input methods are very different and so is the typical user interface.

 

Ex:

Lets say you designed an application that's meant to run in an environment were it may use 1MB RAM and only one singe thread on the CPU. Lets further assume this application processes data: it takes one entry from the database, does something with it and stores it into another database. In this environment, the application is allowed to use one thread and process one data segment at a time. Additionally, the user on this platform may only use a keyboard for input.

 

Now lets say you need to port that application to a much stronger system, where you you're allowed to use more CPU time, more RAM and various input methods. If you want to process faster, you'll need to handle more data blocks at a time and that will require significant changes in code. Additionally, as you apply changes various other problems may pop up, like the possibility that the database access is quite slower then the processing aspect, so that it may pay off to have asynchronous access to databases etc.

 

Obviously, significant changes in code will be required.

[DjMiikkii]

The driver will be updated? lol.

 

I think Rockstar will do a better job with the PC version this time, but I have no idea what to expect in terms of release date's etc.

[Mr Rabbit]

 

I predict that it will be announced for all three main platforms with a release date (

so PS3, xbox 360 and wii U?

100% Pure troll

good job

I have no idea what you are talking about.

I would have said sega dreamcast but they only said 3.

[Anubias]

 

Then you can make money before all the PC pirating starts.

Yes, because pirating games for console is impossible right?

[Jimbatron]

The advantage of a later PC release for R* and Take2 is people might buy it for the console, then again on the PC. It is unlikely to happen so much the other way around because the PC version is likely to have better graphics.

 

However, I think the PC version becomes more important for V because current gen consoles are at the end of their lifecycle. The hardware becomes more of a limit to what you can do on the Xbox360 and PS3, whereas the PC continues to improve steadily. So there is more room to push the PC version of V visually relative to the consoles than there was with IV. Maybe an argument for releasing the PC version closer to the consoles this time if R* want to show off their cutting edge graphics wise.

[Jimmyhetfield]

We've definitely not discussed this 100+ times before..

 

 

 

 

 

[faizanali]

You Console fags can only do one thing CRY just look at Dishonored on X360 there is NO TEXTURE FILTERING the Textures take too much time to process and the loading times is 20 Secs on Consoles and 2 Secs on PC (WITHOUT SSD) and all those saying PC Sucks you know that they just posted this reply USING A DAMN PC

[PJ WIL]

I hope V is released on all platforms at the same time, but if it happens the same as IV I will probably buy on 360 and PC versions again.

Was nice rediscovering IV on PC (though I was still playing free roam every now and then) with much better graphics and mods (the real cars mods makes LC feel more.....real!).

100% agree modding GTA 4 was the best part hopefully mods will come out fast for GTA V. But then again how long will it take for the PC version to come out.

[Node]

Maybe like a few weeks or so.

Never understood this pun, what's the joke?

[TenEightyOne]

Maybe like a few weeks or so.

Never understood this pun, what's the joke?

I believe it refers to a R* quote telling fans when to expect more news... or at least I think it does...

[Freezer89]

 

Maybe like a few weeks or so.

Never understood this pun, what's the joke?

I believe it refers to a R* quote telling fans when to expect more news... or at least I think it does...

Yep.

http://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/arti...1/business.html

 

"We will be back with some more to see in a few weeks or so."

[coolsamme]

XBOX 720 and ps4 first, and like a month later for PC.

[faizanali]

XBOX 720 and ps4 first, and like a month later for PC.

So ignorant.

[Mamunda]

I hope so much that they'll do a simultaneous pc release this time (or with max 1 month delay)

 

I also hope they'll do a proper PC version, not a sh*tty port like GTA IV.

[GTAVIViceCity]

You Console fags can only do one thing CRY just look at Dishonored on X360 there is NO TEXTURE FILTERING the Textures take too much time to process and the loading times is 20 Secs on Consoles and 2 Secs on PC (WITHOUT SSD) and all those saying PC Sucks you know that they just posted this reply USING A DAMN PC

Can we all just get along?

 

We didn't start laughing at u when you complained about ur Port connections in GTA IV or MP3

 

 

[faizanali]

You Console fags can only do one thing CRY just look at Dishonored on X360 there is NO TEXTURE FILTERING the Textures take too much time to process and the loading times is 20 Secs on Consoles and 2 Secs on PC (WITHOUT SSD) and all those saying PC Sucks you know that they just posted this reply USING A DAMN PC

Can we all just get along?

 

We didn't start laughing at u when you complained about ur Port connections in GTA IV or MP3

Port Connections in MP3?

 

[GTAVIViceCity]

You Console fags can only do one thing CRY just look at Dishonored on X360 there is NO TEXTURE FILTERING the Textures take too much time to process and the loading times is 20 Secs on Consoles and 2 Secs on PC (WITHOUT SSD) and all those saying PC Sucks you know that they just posted this reply USING A DAMN PC

Can we all just get along?

 

We didn't start laughing at u when you complained about ur Port connections in GTA IV or MP3

Port Connections in MP3?

I'm pretty sure MP3 suffered from the console port bs.

 

-.-

 

 

[CodeFail]

GTA V would take up a bit of space on a PC, depending on all sorts of things. Judging on the graphics, you wouldn't be able to have more games with V, just a few.

 

Anybody agree, or am i an ignorant dipsh*t?

[S1LV3R_W0LF]

For the idiots that keep saying consoles first because of pirated PC versions blah blah blah... let me tell you this, you don't know sht, first of all you don't know that the damn consoles are being more pirated then PC's, PC sales increased a lot in the last year compared to consoles, look for that information is not hard to find it. I said it many times I know a lot of people that have XBox, in fact my brother have a lot of friends and each of them have more then 50 games in their list and they never bough a single one, so your argument doesn't make sense.

 

Now to explain you why the consoles got it first:

 

I know this guy is an idiot but he is telling the truth here and you can look for more sources if you want, GTAIV was to be PS3 exclusive, not meaning forveer but for some time it would be exclusive:

 

http://www.hotbloodedgaming.com/2010/05/13...-ps3-exclusive/

 

Then Microsoft paid $75 millions to end that exclusivity and bring it to Xbox at the same time:

 

http://www.gamespot.com/news/microsoft-pai...usivity-6262370

 

And then they also paid for exclusive content, although we know that didn't last long:

 

http://blog.xboxliveonline.com/microsoft-p...ions-to-gta-iv/

 

 

Later after GTAIV release both MS and SONY said they didn't earn what they expected with GTA, in other words they didn't sell more consoles because of it, so both said most likely they wouldn't pay for exclusivity anymore. I posted those links here once but I don't know in what thread and I don't remember the exact words to google it, but I'm 100% sure I've read that.

 

Now if they plan to release it on PC and the 2 platforms, unless there is any last minute agreement it should come in the same day or 1 week / 1 month after like other games been doing.

 

It's not because of piracy or because of competition.

[Sunrise Driver]

Best PC version on day 1.

 

At least I hope for this.

[RussianFreak]

Hey Guys what do you think will happen with the new GTA 5 PC version if there is one do you think it will come out prior to the console version or at the same time ? And as well do you think the driver will be updated so the game is not as intensive but still graphics wise amazing?

I'd say it will come out after the consoles, but not as delayed as GTA IV was. It seems they're taking PCs into consideration much more this time...maybe it'll actually work. XD

[Celticfang]

For the idiots that keep saying consoles first because of pirated PC versions blah blah blah... let me tell you this, you don't know sht, first of all you don't know that the damn consoles are being more pirated then PC's, PC sales increased a lot in the last year compared to consoles, look for that information is not hard to find it. I said it many times I know a lot of people that have XBox, in fact my brother have a lot of friends and each of them have more then 50 games in their list and they never bough a single one, so your argument doesn't make sense.

 

Now to explain you why the consoles got it first:

 

I know this guy is an idiot but he is telling the truth here and you can look for more sources if you want, GTAIV was to be PS3 exclusive, not meaning forveer but for some time it would be exclusive:

 

http://www.hotbloodedgaming.com/2010/05/13...-ps3-exclusive/

 

Then Microsoft paid $75 millions to end that exclusivity and bring it to Xbox at the same time:

 

http://www.gamespot.com/news/microsoft-pai...usivity-6262370

 

And then they also paid for exclusive content, although we know that didn't last long:

 

http://blog.xboxliveonline.com/microsoft-p...ions-to-gta-iv/

 

 

Later after GTAIV release both MS and SONY said they didn't earn what they expected with GTA, in other words they didn't sell more consoles because of it, so both said most likely they wouldn't pay for exclusivity anymore. I posted those links here once but I don't know in what thread and I don't remember the exact words to google it, but I'm 100% sure I've read that.

 

Now if they plan to release it on PC and the 2 platforms, unless there is any last minute agreement it should come in the same day or 1 week / 1 month after like other games been doing.

 

It's not because of piracy or because of competition.

I happen to know somebody who pirates a ton of Xbox games and they've stated it is far, far easier to pirate an x360 game than a PC game, but some devs who are open about publishers have said the publishers refuse to acknowledge console piracy and cling to the 'it can't be done' mentality, a simple look at TPB or any other torrent site would disprove that.

 

After IV's release the main pirate copies were console games, as not a whole lot of people had a pirated PC version working 100%

[TheMarkofZollo]

 

Never understood this pun, what's the joke?

 

Refering to how R* said news was coming soon, thier idea of soon is quite long lol. Maybe I have just ruined it?!

 

Anyhow I can appreciate it would be easier to Pirate a console version than a PC one, they have gone mad with protection software in the last few years.