IM_YOUR_GOD Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Another wonderful glimpse of ‘Heaven’, given to us by a top neurosurgeon who shares with us that he visited this beautiful ‘place’ during a week long coma after he had suffered a traumatic illness due to a rare form of bacterial meningitis. In the videos below, Dr. Eben Alexander shares with us his interpretation of this near death experience. Enjoy these amazing video Yahoo!7 October 9, 2012, 7:28 am A top after making a full recovery from a seven day coma that saw his neocortex inactivated. Though his chances of survival were low, he awoke from the coma seven days later and began describing an ‘other worldly experience’. “I was in a place of clouds. Big, puffy, pink-white ones that showed up sharply against the deep blue-black sky,” he wrote in an article for Newsweek. He also goes on to describe “Flocks of transparent, shimmering beings arced across the sky, leaving long, streamer-like lines behind them.” “I’m not the first person to have discovered evidence that consciousness exists beyond the body,” he said. “I know full well how extraordinary, how frankly unbelievable, all this sounds.” Read much more @ http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/break...-during-a-coma/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn 7 five 11 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Within hours of developing a severe headache, Dr Alexander’s entire cortex—the section of the brain that controls thought and emotion —had shut down. Well see this is interesting, if that part of his brain had indeed shut-down then theoretically he wouldn't have a section of his brain that could think, therefore he wouldn't dream. However i am absolutely nowhere near close to knowing really anything about how the brain functions so i am probably totally wrong. I don't really buy it, but it's interesting. Here's a question for the folks: Would you really want an afterlife? Spending eternity in a land where you could forever remember back on your life and the good/bad times you had, don't you think you would be wishing to be alive? Don't you think you would become depressed knowing you are dead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzbegone Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I lost interest after seeing the picture. Looks too churchy for me and I'm supposing the guy isn't doing this out of the good of his heart. I also like how the good doctor believes he's he first to have seen this 'paradise beyond the clouds'. So have I doc... with my mate LSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
na89340qv0n34b09q340 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Here's a question for the folks: Would you really want an afterlife? Spending eternity in a land where you could forever remember back on your life and the good/bad times you had, don't you think you would be wishing to be alive? Don't you think you would become depressed knowing you are dead? And how many people actually want to go to christian heaven? I mean it's not as bad as hell sounds, but people spend their life not shooting up their workplace, not telling Janice that she's a fat whore, suppressing their homosexuality, not getting drunk all the time, and waking up at 6 am every Sunday to go praise god in a church, which is usually a negative experience unless you actually do like it. Then after all of this you go to a place where you're still not allowed to sin, and all pleasure that could be derived from learning/working is gone because you have an eternity to pursue everything. I mean what exactly are you supposed to do up there? This isn't the first scientist who happens to believe in god and in near-death experiences, and it certainly isn't the last. Nothing in neuroscience directly contradicts religion, and you could make hundreds of theories as to what exactly happened, some that'd be supported by science, and some that'd require belief in something more than body and mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmellyJelly Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 (edited) Fascinating stuff. But I have doubts that these experiences are reliable. Let's say that he thinks he saw the future - would we believe him? In fact, if he saw anything but heaven then would we believe him? I remember seeing a program on TLC (back when it was good) interviewing people who had near death experiences. One kid had an out of body experience during surgery. Someone else said that he saw his grandpa. Another guy said that all he saw was a white light and that he felt time slow down. Like I said, these experiences are fascinating. But they're subjective. At the end of the program there was a doctor that explained that people see what they believe they'll see. EDIT: Any reason why the video is from a year and a half ago but the news article was published yesterday? Edited October 10, 2012 by SmellyJelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEALUX Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 These people have as much credibility as people on hallucinogenic drugs. The Audiophile Thread XB271HU | TESORO Gram XS | Xtrfy MZ1 | Xbox Elite v2 | Hifiman Sundara | Fiio K9 Pro i7 4790K 4.4 GHz | GTX 1080 Ti | 32 GB Crucial DDR3 | ADATA 256GB | Samsung 860 PRO 2TB Xbox | Xbox 360 | Xbox Series X | PS2 | PS3 | Google Pixel 6 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sivispacem Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Within hours of developing a severe headache, Dr Alexander’s entire cortex—the section of the brain that controls thought and emotion —had shut down. Well see this is interesting, if that part of his brain had indeed shut-down then theoretically he wouldn't have a section of his brain that could think, therefore he wouldn't dream I think it's one of those misleading turns of phrase used by the press. AFAIK the only way a brain can properly and fully shut down, either totally or in parts, results in rapid brain death. At any other time there's still some underlying activity going on, even though it's probably well outside the remit of what could be considered "function". AMD Ryzen 5900X (4.65GHz All-Core PBO2) | Gigabye X570S Pro | 32GB G-Skill Trident Z RGB 3600MHz CL16 EK-Quantum Reflection D5 | XSPC D5 PWM | TechN/Heatkiller Blocks | HardwareLabs GTS & GTX 360 Radiators Corsair AX750 | Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic XL | EVGA GeForce RTX2080 XC @2055MHz | Sabrant Rocket Plus 1TB Sabrant Rocket 2TB | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB | 2x ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q | Q Acoustics 2010i | Sabaj A4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creed Bratton Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Another religious lunatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullworthAcademy Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 bullsh*t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneakerhead. Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kifflom112 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I've been to heaven and back before! I was eating the most delicious pound cake with whipping cream, when some cat had to walk all over it and ruin the experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OysterBarron Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Within hours of developing a severe headache, Dr Alexander’s entire cortex—the section of the brain that controls thought and emotion —had shut down. Well see this is interesting, if that part of his brain had indeed shut-down then theoretically he wouldn't have a section of his brain that could think, therefore he wouldn't dream I think it's one of those misleading turns of phrase used by the press. AFAIK the only way a brain can properly and fully shut down, either totally or in parts, results in rapid brain death. At any other time there's still some underlying activity going on, even though it's probably well outside the remit of what could be considered "function". As long as he was breathing and the brain was still receiving oxygen then It should still function. Iv'e heard of some operations that require the heart to be stopped but i'm pretty sure the hearts functions are taken over by a machine for the duration. So chances are he was on life support and was having a dream. BUT If it was truly a heavenly experience It may explain why some Coma patients never wake up. also another thing to consider is normally when a patient slips into a coma it's when something bad has happened That the body or brain feels it cant get over strait away and needs time to repair itself, Maybe this is enough of a jolt to cause your soul (if such a thing exists) to pass over to the other side to keep it safe until return. May also point towards why some patients come out of comas fine and others come out with serve mental disablilitys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem Fandango Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Well, I'm convinced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viperman Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 *sniff* *sniff* I smell sh*te. Big white puffy clouds is, as far away from what I call heaven as a car crash. - [- No Fear. No Limits. No Equal. -] - - [- Ride For Life -] - Digging deep. It's not just an expression that's thrown around the locker room at halftime. It's a way of life. A daily code that drives a champions existence. It's not always glamorous. It's not always blue skies and sunny days, and its certainly not always welcome. But love it or hate it, to become a true champion take pure, unrestricted commitment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otter Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 If it was truly a heavenly experience It may explain why some Coma patients never wake up. also another thing to consider is normally when a patient slips into a coma it's when something bad has happened That the body or brain feels it cant get over strait away and needs time to repair itself, Maybe this is enough of a jolt to cause your soul (if such a thing exists) to pass over to the other side to keep it safe until return. May also point towards why some patients come out of comas fine and others come out with serve mental disablilitys! I've had dreams that I've never wanted to wake up from. Disappointing to me that the good doctor doesn't even seem to consider this, even with his experience and knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalvin Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Within hours of developing a severe headache, Dr Alexander’s entire cortex—the section of the brain that controls thought and emotion —had shut down. Well see this is interesting, if that part of his brain had indeed shut-down then theoretically he wouldn't have a section of his brain that could think, therefore he wouldn't dream I think it's one of those misleading turns of phrase used by the press. AFAIK the only way a brain can properly and fully shut down, either totally or in parts, results in rapid brain death. At any other time there's still some underlying activity going on, even though it's probably well outside the remit of what could be considered "function". As long as he was breathing and the brain was still receiving oxygen then It should still function. Iv'e heard of some operations that require the heart to be stopped but i'm pretty sure the hearts functions are taken over by a machine for the duration. So chances are he was on life support and was having a dream. BUT If it was truly a heavenly experience It may explain why some Coma patients never wake up. also another thing to consider is normally when a patient slips into a coma it's when something bad has happened That the body or brain feels it cant get over strait away and needs time to repair itself, Maybe this is enough of a jolt to cause your soul (if such a thing exists) to pass over to the other side to keep it safe until return. May also point towards why some patients come out of comas fine and others come out with serve mental disablilitys! Yeah, but other people say when they're in a coma (People who've came out of one) Don't say anything about Heaven or so, they just say they see pitch-black, nothing else. But can hear people talking in the background. Shine o' Vice | Vice City BETA Edition | Grand Theft Auto 3D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 When i go to sleep i have dreams very often, these dreams commonly feature people and places i know or at times conjure up weird places and creatures that are unfamiliar to me. Despite how 'unrealistic' some dreams are, i wake up afterwards and feel as though the dream had actually happened and emotionally i feel different from how i wake up from a dreamless night. My point here is, the guy may be correct and maybe there is something or somewhere to house your 'spirit' after death but how the hell can he differenciate sp? between a view into the future and just a really out there realistic feeling dream or state of coma induced halluncination? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddsock Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 This is all that needs to be said about this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryuclan Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Is it weird that i pictured the guy walking in a closet with some hot chick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IM_YOUR_GOD Posted October 10, 2012 Author Share Posted October 10, 2012 Penn & Teller? Lol That's like bringing someone who doesn't believe in water to a beach, then pushing them in and baptise them with the holy spirit. (Yess lawd) Well, Aren't those guys athesis anyway?, which means their going to HELL to spend their eternity burning and listening to Hanson records over and over again? Me? I want the whole chi-bang. The 40 hairy Arab virgins, the golden mansion and a nice throne right next to Jesus and the most high. We gots to make sure my throne is equipped with a hot tub and time machine though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryuclan Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Penn and Teller? Lol No theres a game kids used to play at parties called a minute in heaven. Lol basically you pick someone and go in the closet for a minute to do whatever lol. Never played myself. I assume they discuss diversifying their investments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddsock Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Penn & Teller? Lol That's like bringing someone who doesn't believe in water to a beach, then pushing them in and baptise them with the holy spirit. (Yess lawd) Well, Aren't those guys athesis anyway?, which means their going to HELL to spend their eternity burning and listening to Hanson records over and over again? Me? I want the whole chi-bang. The 40 hairy Arab virgins, the golden mansion and a nice throne right next to Jesus and the most high. We gots to make sure my throne is equipped with a hot tub and time machine though. Obvious troll is obvious, but in the event that you're being serious, one doesn't have to believe in something in order to be taken seriously on the subject. If you don't believe them, believe the experts they interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straznicy Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Grade A bollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMyth Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 That guy looks like a f*cking loon. It's bullsh*t like all the other NDE stories of visiting Heaven. I've read up on this a while back and I remember when people say they see a light at the end of the tunnel is actually something ordinary which happens while you aren't concious while still thinking? Something like that, I'm terrible at Science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nah Tso Gud Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Sounds like it was just some sort of comatose dream about what he perceived the afterlife to be... But who knows, maybe that's what afterlife actually is. The better your personal view of it, the better it turns out to be.. and the worse outlook you have, the worse it could be, essentially being a "hell", if you will, in comparison to the greatest possibility. A true manifestation of your earthly attitude towards things. Hahaha, is that bs? Perhaps, but it's a good way to look at things I think. If he wasn't medically dead, I'm not sure I buy it period... you can experience the "afterlife" without even dying?? That just doesn't sound right if there is such a thing. Sounds like cheating Hah. One of the only things that keeps me believing in such a thing is that I personally knew someone that was clinically dead for a number of minutes and has told me about the experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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