Jay Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 They can advertize and sponsor whatever the hell they want, it still doesn't mean I'm gonna drink any of their poison. I, personally, love the brand. I seldom actually use the product. But the brand is fantastically marketed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn 7 five 11 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 (edited) The only reason I'm interested in this is to see what happens to a human being after doing something like that. Breaking the sound barrier. Awesome. I honestly don't give a sh*t about the record breaking. Exactly, nobody has a clue as to what kind of things happen to the human body at that speed, for all we know his limbs could fly off or his head could explode. Obviously that's a bit far fetched but f*cked up things could happen. Wouldn't the average sky jump be high enough to reach top speed? Just because you are falling further doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be faster, i would say that most sky-divers would already have reached their terminal velocity within quite a short distance, i really highly doubt that it's even possible to break the sound barrier with a skydive no matter how high. EDIT @Below me, i forgot to even consider that, makes a bit more sense. Edited October 10, 2012 by finn4life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA_stu Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Something to do with the atmosphere, and less force being exerted upon him by the thinner air than you would get at lower altitudes. So because the atmosphere is thinner he can travel faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3niX Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Well... That is correct. He is jumping from a place where theres practically no air (something, which the current record holder experienced firsthand when one of his gloves came undone). You start slowing down at a certain height. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryuclan Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I too was confused about the sound barrier thing. I had assumed some type of propulsion was needed to exceed terminal velocity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyGanteks Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 So, delayed again for tomorrow then eh? Damn wind. Also i can honestly say i never even heard of this action until it was suddenly on TV yesterday. I'm not really interested in sitting and watching him go up then down live, but i'd surely like to see a video recorded from the moment he jumps off until he lands, and they better be recording that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fgcarva1 Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 I too was confused about the sound barrier thing. I had assumed some type of propulsion was needed to exceed terminal velocity. He's gonna be at the Stratosphere, hence drag works a bit differently making the net acceleration equal zero at a much greater velocity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acehilm Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 I've skydived twice from 14,000ft and I've heard of this Redbull mission. Question; when will the mission proceed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryuclan Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 I too was confused about the sound barrier thing. I had assumed some type of propulsion was needed to exceed terminal velocity. He's gonna be at the Stratosphere, hence drag works a bit differently making the net acceleration equal zero at a much greater velocity. I understand that but entering the troposphere the usual laws of physics and wind drag will apply correct? I'm just curious to see how this change in pressure and other variables will effect his speed and velocity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acehilm Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Meteorologist Don Day has confirmed that a Thursday launch will not be possible. The next weather window opens on Sunday October 14th at 6:30 AM MDT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fgcarva1 Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 I too was confused about the sound barrier thing. I had assumed some type of propulsion was needed to exceed terminal velocity. He's gonna be at the Stratosphere, hence drag works a bit differently making the net acceleration equal zero at a much greater velocity. I understand that but entering the troposphere the usual laws of physics and wind drag will apply correct? I'm just curious to see how this change in pressure and other variables will effect his speed and velocity. Yeah, I understand what you mean. I'm assuming he'll reach the sound barrier before reaching the troposphere. Then who the hell knows what'll happen during the atmospheric change when air pressure becomes a factor. I guess it's safe since they have an entire medical research team who probably thought about this through since a few of the doctors in the project apparently used to work for NASA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secura Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 So has this been scheduled or ... ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryuclan Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 So has this been scheduled or ... ??? They're saying the 14th maybe their best bet. Honestly if I was that guy I'd want the conditions absolutely perfect too. Falling from that height he could land anywhere if things don't go perfectly. If you hear about someone finding a man in a space suit in their home with a hole in their roof you know it was him....and he broke the record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acehilm Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 So has this been scheduled or ... ??? They're saying the 14th maybe their best bet. Honestly if I was that guy I'd want the conditions absolutely perfect too. Falling from that height he could land anywhere if things don't go perfectly. If you hear about someone finding a man in a space suit in their home with a hole in their roof you know it was him....and he broke the record. Well, it was supposedly windy up some altitude, which they ignored. Later, wind speeds picked up on ground level, pushing the huge ballon over. I'm not sure how he will navigate where he wants to land. I don't think it's an exact point, only in a region of area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrrhic Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 So has this been scheduled or ... ??? They're saying the 14th maybe their best bet. Honestly if I was that guy I'd want the conditions absolutely perfect too. Falling from that height he could land anywhere if things don't go perfectly. If you hear about someone finding a man in a space suit in their home with a hole in their roof you know it was him....and he broke the record. Well, it was supposedly windy up some altitude, which they ignored. Later, wind speeds picked up on ground level, pushing the huge ballon over. I'm not sure how he will navigate where he wants to land. I don't think it's an exact point, only in a region of area. How hard is it actually to land in a designated area? I know that you're fairly experienced in this field and as I've never done anything like this I'm just wondering roughly how hard it is to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acehilm Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 (edited) So has this been scheduled or ... ??? They're saying the 14th maybe their best bet. Honestly if I was that guy I'd want the conditions absolutely perfect too. Falling from that height he could land anywhere if things don't go perfectly. If you hear about someone finding a man in a space suit in their home with a hole in their roof you know it was him....and he broke the record. Well, it was supposedly windy up some altitude, which they ignored. Later, wind speeds picked up on ground level, pushing the huge ballon over. I'm not sure how he will navigate where he wants to land. I don't think it's an exact point, only in a region of area. How hard is it actually to land in a designated area? I know that you're fairly experienced in this field and as I've never done anything like this I'm just wondering roughly how hard it is to do it. I'm sure he is jumping in Roswell, New Mexico. I've never been there myself, but I'm sure most of it is open areas; ie, desert. Felix will be taking off from a desert region, close to Roswell and landing somewhere near by. Even at his last test jump, 71,000ft, he couldn't navigate his way to an exact land area. It wouldn't be miles away from where he took off from, that's what I mean him landing in a region of area. His parachute would be designed differently to parachutes they use at your local dropzone, I am also guessing. With all that extra weight, I think he would need a larger canopy, perhaps similar to a tandem chute. Tandem chute's aren't as accurate as a solo jumper's chute. He will land where he lands basically. They don't want any draft to push him miles from the drop-zone, that's why the late mission was delayed. Did I answer you question? Edited October 12, 2012 by Coat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrrhic Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 So has this been scheduled or ... ??? They're saying the 14th maybe their best bet. Honestly if I was that guy I'd want the conditions absolutely perfect too. Falling from that height he could land anywhere if things don't go perfectly. If you hear about someone finding a man in a space suit in their home with a hole in their roof you know it was him....and he broke the record. Well, it was supposedly windy up some altitude, which they ignored. Later, wind speeds picked up on ground level, pushing the huge ballon over. I'm not sure how he will navigate where he wants to land. I don't think it's an exact point, only in a region of area. How hard is it actually to land in a designated area? I know that you're fairly experienced in this field and as I've never done anything like this I'm just wondering roughly how hard it is to do it. I'm sure he is jumping in Roswell, New Mexico. I've never been there myself, but I'm sure most of it is open areas; ie, desert. Felix will be taking off from a desert region, close to Roswell and landing somewhere near by. Even at his last test jump, 71,000ft, he couldn't navigate his way to an exact land area. It wouldn't be miles away from where he took off from, that's what I mean him landing in a region of area. His parachute would be designed differently to parachutes they use at your local dropzone, I am also guessing. With all that extra weight, I think he would need a larger canopy, perhaps similar to a tandem chute. Tandem chute's aren't as accurate as a solo jumper's chute. He will land where he lands basically. They don't want any draft to push him miles from the drop-zone, that's why the late mission was delayed. Did I answer you question? Ah, I see. Because I was thinking when your travelling at speeds that quick it would be hard to actually determine how far you've moved in one direction. Thanks for answering that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acehilm Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 (edited) Edit: deleted Edited October 14, 2012 by Coat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatGig Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 For those who'd like to watch, the stream is now live: Red Bull Stratos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoo Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 This is live on Discovery right now, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyGanteks Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Aaaaand we have takeoff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinski Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 And we are go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kj2022 Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 this is gonna be epic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatGig Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Does anyone know how long the ascent takes? Judging by it's speed so far it's going to take far less time than I expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinski Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 If he keeps the speed he was at a minute ago (about 1280 I think) when I worked it out, it's about 90 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kj2022 Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 he's travelling about a 1000 feet a minute upwards, but i suspect it'll get faster the higher he gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOAXi Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 If I understood it correctly it will first go slightly slowly, then after a couple of minutes it will go even slower and then faster and faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatGig Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 he's travelling about a 1000 feet a minute upwards, but i suspect it'll get faster the higher he gets. I would've thought he'd slow down due to the fact that helium is lighter than air so down here, where there's more air, it would be able to rise quicker, whereas near the stratosphere the air is thinner meaning there's less air for the helium to rise above meaning it'll slow down. I am aware that I have worded that terribly but I can't think of any better way to put it right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kj2022 Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 he's travelling about a 1000 feet a minute upwards, but i suspect it'll get faster the higher he gets. I would've thought he'd slow down due to the fact that helium is lighter than air so down here, where there's more air, it would be able to rise quicker, whereas near the stratosphere the air is thinner meaning there's less air for the helium to rise above meaning it'll slow down. I am aware that I have worded that terribly but I can't think of any better way to put it right now. I think it'd be more to do with the drag of the capsule tbh, the balloon should rise at a constant pace, but the capsule will get some issues with the thickness of the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyGanteks Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 1/4 of ascension done i believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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