europeanbob Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Yeah i understood it like this, plus it's probably cheaper for R* rather than paying contractors right? Actually - amazingly - it's not likely to be that much cheaper. Depending on where you go for off-shore talent, something like 2/3rd the fees you pay are programmer / designer / whatever salary, and the rest "management fees" or some other crap. This is one thing that people tend not to understand about offshoring; yeah, the salaries might be cheaper due to cost of living in a different location, but you incur this management overhead (offices, etc.) that's likely to be expensive for what it is. Setting up an arm of the business over there and doing things directly is the only way you make big savings. I wouldn't read this as being about cost at all - I would read this as being about talent. Acquiring temporary contractors is always a pain, whether it's on-shore or off-, because they a. tend not to be as invested since they're not going to be around so long and b. it's difficult to hire good people. I think what this says about Technicolor is that R* have a good working relationship with them, like the results they're producing, and want to keep hold of the talent over there. It may well mean that R* actually end up paying more - giving people raises instead of letting them go elsewhere, etc. - but the value to R* is that they're then tied much more closely and the people over there are (hopefully) much more committed. Sure, they are likely to be cheaper than the local talent in the various R* offices, but my bet would be that it's not night and day on a cost basis - for someone with equivalent capability you're probably only getting 10-20% "discount" tops. (Disclaimer; most of my offshore experience is eastern Europe rather than India, but India has a huge middle class that already earns pretty well, and to get the workers of the skills they need means that their operations are not going to be Bangalore call-centre class outfits. An idea of India being mostly poor and rural is about 30 years out of date) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS 17 Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Wow are they outsourcing in india where the work cost less? Just because the work cost is less doesn't mean the quality will be, plus there work ethic in India is usually harder than ours. The main reason for outsourcing all around the world to third world or emerging markets is that they are all working cheaper. You said the quality can be as good as it would be made in e. g. the US, but I am sure, that the education system of the US is better than it will be in third world or emerging markets. So the employees have higher qualifications and in a longterm view the products won't be as good as made in an industrial nation. Just read some economic reports and you will get this statement confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebig Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Wow are they outsourcing in india where the work cost less? Well, I have just learnt something about Bangalore. It isn't like the rest of India, it's a really hyper modern city. The Indian Space Program takes place there and they take employees from all over the world. It didn't look like the people over there were earning less money than here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soovar420 Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 (edited) I have to agree with DS 17.. I just want to say I am currently working at Technicolor and I stay in Bangalore and it's not a "hyper modern city"....The only reason why companies outsource to India is because of cheap labour, there's nothing more to that...trust me !! Artists here are paid very low and are treated like sh*t...If one goes, there's always two more ready to take his place and so the companies never run out of artists... I'm not quite sure about the US market but here in India an entry level artist gets paid meagre 200$/month and from what I've seen on the internet the average salary in US would be anything between 3000$-5000$/month .. Now that's what we call cost cutting !!! Edited June 25, 2013 by soovar420 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S1LV3R_W0LF Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Well I'm from Europe, not US, and I understand what you're saying and in fact many companies make millions by exploring poorer countries that do the same job cheaper. NIKE for example have factories in Indonesia that make hundreds of balls in a day that costs a few cents and that they sell for hundreds of euros. And the same goes with many other big companies, reason why they are so successful is for exploiting and enslaving people in despair. Although I think the average salary everywhere is getting lower and lower now and at this rhythm won't take long till all the world is at the same level as all the poorer countries. In fact they are doing all to make that happen. Screwing the economy on purpose, blame it on an invisible subject (crisis) and then act like they are the saviors. And people in despair will do anything for a meal... I call this induced slavery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolution-XW Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Thanks OP, I too, can't wait to play the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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