Viceguy Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Sam Houser said this: “We'll think of a city first, then the characters” (http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/dan-houser-talks-gta-v/010628) Is it possible R* got a bit overexcited and was very happy how the city/map turned out so they decided to show us the city, and hadden't really started on the storyline last year, when they showed us the 1 trailer? Maybe that's why we haven't got any infomation about the storyline or protagonist.. What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loste1 Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 How can they not have started the storyline when there was clearly voice overs and detailed character models in the trailer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kj2022 Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 "why did i move here? I guess it was the weather" sounds like the story is done tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viceguy Posted October 5, 2012 Author Share Posted October 5, 2012 How can they not have started the storyline when there was clearly voice overs and detailed character models in the trailer? Maybe, at that point when they made the trailer, that was all they had? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Justice Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 How can they not have started the storyline when there was clearly voice overs and detailed character models in the trailer? Maybe, at that point when they made the trailer, that was all they had? Yeah, they paid an actor to voice-over the trailer. You're so smart, you figured it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viceguy Posted October 5, 2012 Author Share Posted October 5, 2012 How can they not have started the storyline when there was clearly voice overs and detailed character models in the trailer? Maybe, at that point when they made the trailer, that was all they had? Yeah, they paid an actor to voice-over the trailer. You're so smart, you figured it out. Instead of editing the topicstarter I say i here.. What if they hadden't completed the storyline at that point.. maybe the storyline was just 30% completed or somthing when we got the trailer, and thats why they wont give us more untill it's near complete.. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicPunk Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 They've had 4 years. It. Should. Be. Done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 The voice of the trailer is the evidence that Rockstar was at least finishing the story of the game and that was more than 11 months ago. GTAForums Crew Chat Thread - The Sharks Chat Thread - Leone Family Mafia Chat Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knife Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Instead of editing the topicstarter I say i here..What if they hadden't completed the storyline at that point.. maybe the storyline was just 30% completed or somthing when we got the trailer, and thats why they wont give us more untill it's near complete.. ? I wouldn't be surprised if the story wasn't particularly close to completion at that point. The city has to be there before they can build the missions and only when the missions are coded can the dialogue be written that properly fit the events of that mission. So it can't really be any more than a draft until a decent way into development. But I'm pretty sure they'd have nailed down the main bits like who we play, what his motivations are and the overall plotline of the game. Back then I expect they knew exactly what the game was going to be about and it's unlikely to have changed too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viceguy Posted October 5, 2012 Author Share Posted October 5, 2012 They've had 4 years. It. Should. Be. Done. I totally agree with you, but we don't know if R* started right after GTA: IV.. and they also say that the map is going to be huge.. I don't know, the thought hit this morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadiya1 Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 "The Tract is the greatest book ever written... but it hasn't been written yet." That was tweeted by the epsilon program account a while ago I'm not sure the extent to which that thing is to be taken seriously, or whether they're using it to provide little subtle clues; or whether it's just R* messing about and talking nonsense for fun. But to be honest I don't believe they would have released a trailer without having the storyline complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kj2022 Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 the story will have been decided and 2 or 3 drafts made, but missions can still be removed right up until the later stages of bug testing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irrational Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 "I thought I would be dad like all the other dads" /threat How is it threatening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynx2069 Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 It's more likely that R* just doesn't want to show more of the game until it's fully playable and R* knows the features of the game are implemented, working, and polished. So many developers give previews of their work a year before its released and either the way a feature is explained is nothing like how it functions or the game is completely different upon release. By giving the trailer and screens R* is controlling the hype by making sure that when you do see a true press preview, what you see is what you get, not hyped new features that fail mechanically (as in game mechanics) or are not implemented properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1337Pilot Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Sorry I am late to the party... Friday, November 13th 2009 at 5:33PM was the article written. Ciao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebig Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 They don't have to wait until the map is made, but until the map is drawn. So probably the story was already made when the trailer was showed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherDave Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 The setting and story, in a loose form at least, would have been around well before any development started, and both worked on simultaneously. The script has to be pretty nailed down before any major voice recording can start for obvious reasons. That couldn't happen if the story was unfinished. Things can be, and are, often changed late in the development cycle, but you'd only really expect it to be relatively minor stuff - the core story will have been in place for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Arcadia Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 They've had 4 years. It. Should. Be. Done. Unfortunately only part of those 4 years were dedicated to V. R* North was constantly forced to help the other studios, and IIRC single handedly salvaged L.A. Noire, all the while having to work on EFLC and possibly Agent. There's a reason that person who leaked the Agent screenshots listed V as being projected for a 2011 release at the time they left the company. We're looking at game that should have only taken a few years to make, but didn't thanks to mismanagement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChillyPhilly Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 They've had 4 years. It. Should. Be. Done. I totally agree with you, but we don't know if R* started right after GTA: IV.. and they also say that the map is going to be huge.. I don't know, the thought hit this morning If I'm right, they would have started work on V in some form about a month after IV was released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeFail Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Like that other guy said, THAT ARTICLE WAS MADE FOUR YEARS AGO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98 in 1 Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Instead of editing the topicstarter I say i here..What if they hadden't completed the storyline at that point.. maybe the storyline was just 30% completed or somthing when we got the trailer, and thats why they wont give us more untill it's near complete.. ? I wouldn't be surprised if the story wasn't particularly close to completion at that point. The city has to be there before they can build the missions and only when the missions are coded can the dialogue be written that properly fit the events of that mission. So it can't really be any more than a draft until a decent way into development. But I'm pretty sure they'd have nailed down the main bits like who we play, what his motivations are and the overall plotline of the game. Back then I expect they knew exactly what the game was going to be about and it's unlikely to have changed too much. Not entirely true, in San Andreas there were plenty of moments in missions where it seemed as if the script was written before the map/missions were designed (Photo Opportunity is the only one I can think of off the top of my head). But then again, I don't work at Rockstar nor do I have a relative that works there as a janitor, so I can't say that this is true. Just more educated guesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeafMetal Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Wow, so then according to the date of this article and the fact that he said he hadn't even thought of the city at that date, the game has may have only been in "full development" for ~2 years. Might explain a few things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuSsIeThUnDeR36 Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Sam Houser described the story to be 1000 page script. So it's done already by the time the trailer released Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Sam Houser described the story to be 1000 page script. So it's done already by the time the trailer released It's just a small detail but Dan Houser said this. He made that statement back in November 2009 so they were planning the script at that time which supports my estimation that GTA V's development begun in mid-late 2009 because of Agent. GTAForums Crew Chat Thread - The Sharks Chat Thread - Leone Family Mafia Chat Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mig10 Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Sam Houser said this: “We'll think of a city first, then the characters” (http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/dan-houser-talks-gta-v/010628) Is it possible R* got a bit overexcited and was very happy how the city/map turned out so they decided to show us the city, and hadden't really started on the storyline last year, when they showed us the 1 trailer? Maybe that's why we haven't got any infomation about the storyline or protagonist.. What do you think? They must have had a plan for the storyline much earlier than the 1st trailer the thing is that they gone cinematic and obviously something went south in development, maybe they wanted to change something major like the storyline, nonetheless they most likely had all in plans before the 1st trailer, both the city and the storyline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMAC2013 Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 4 yes it should be done, its not like its kojima making it. im talking about the metal gear series. he took 6 or 7 years but atyleast talked about the game. but, jeez i think sometimes there doing this to piss off fans. but really this game should be Gold by now, today i broke max payne 3 in half , yes thats right i broke it cuz i got mad knowing i could be playing a better game and then i took a picture of it and burned the box i took pictures but i need to upload them and even thinking about sending the broken disc to rockstar games with a note saying give us a release date! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rundini Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 4 yes it should be done, its not like its kojima making it. im talking about the metal gear series. he took 6 or 7 years but atyleast talked about the game. but, jeez i think sometimes there doing this to piss off fans. but really this game should be Gold by now, today i broke max payne 3 in half , yes thats right i broke it cuz i got mad knowing i could be playing a better game and then i took a picture of it and burned the box i took pictures but i need to upload them and even thinking about sending the broken disc to rockstar games with a note saying give us a release date! Dude relax. It's just a game. And do you really think r* cares that you're breaking your own games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98 in 1 Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 (edited) 4 yes it should be done, its not like its kojima making it. im talking about the metal gear series. he took 6 or 7 years but atyleast talked about the game. but, jeez i think sometimes there doing this to piss off fans. but really this game should be Gold by now, today i broke max payne 3 in half , yes thats right i broke it cuz i got mad knowing i could be playing a better game and then i took a picture of it and burned the box i took pictures but i need to upload them and even thinking about sending the broken disc to rockstar games with a note saying give us a release date! In the words of CJ, "What a waste." Edited October 5, 2012 by mr6plow9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj10101 Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 The voice of the trailer is the evidence that Rockstar was at least finishing the story of the game and that was more than 11 months ago. i don't think you understand the meaning of the word "evidence" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raynos Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 They've had 4 years. It. Should. Be. Done. Ohhh i see, that explains why we have gta v in our consoles right now. OP. anything is possible at this stage, maybe you're right, an year ago they had organized their voice actors and got the first few lines in thus the voice in the trailer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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