Nokia Lumia 920

[Pagelzilla]

My last two phones have been an iPhone 3G and an iPhone 4. I've never had a negative experience using iOS, however after 4 and a half years using the same OS I'm looking to switch things up and diversify. The Lumia 920 is going to be Nokia's flagship phone for 2012 and it looks like a real monster.

 

 

 

Specs:

 

8.7 Megapixel Carl Zeiss camera with "Pureview" technology

4.5" PureMotion HD+ display (whatever the hell that means)

Dual Core 1.5GHz Snapdragon S4 processor

Windows Phone 8 OS

NFC

Wireless charging

link to the very thorough spec sheet: http://www.nokia.com/us-en/products/phone/...specifications/

 

I don't know why they went exclusive to AT&T. I'm assuming there was some closed-door incentives discussed, but it seems like this decision will hurt Windows Phone adoption. It's still barely a competitor to iOS and Android (the figure I read was 3% of smart phone users use Windows Phones) and it needs all the help it can get to become more widely distributed.

 

Anyone else picking up this sexy thang when it comes out?

[Sup3rman]

If id be rich, that thing would be in my hands already But im not, so...

But honsetly, this seems to be better then iphone 5 in every spec, and the win8 phone seems to be really interesting, and smooth. Very stylish and fun looking phone.

E: As i read somewhere, the screen is said to be better then the retina display on iphones. More pixels per sqaureinch or something.

[MIKON8ERISBACK]

I don't think those touch screen smartphones would live up to Nokia's durability standards.

[Finn 7 five 11]

 

I don't think those touch screen smartphones would live up to Nokia's durability standards.

They are still surprisingly tough, if you're not disabled you don't need a super tough phone anyway, my SGS2 has survived every drunken night i have had in the last 9 months.

 

 

Despite windows phones churning out phones like the Lumia, their market share is still falling as you can see below, which is a shame, Nokia used to be a thriving company.

Do they sell Android phones.

 

I feel like slamman, talking about tech and sh*t.

Edited October 6, 2012 by finn4life

[OverTheBelow]

 

I don't think those touch screen smartphones would live up to Nokia's durability standards.

One of the main selling points of this phone is it's incredibly sensitive and durable screen (atleast, in comparison to other smartphones).

 

Check out the Nokia Lumia 900's screen strength:

 

 

I would be getting this phone if it were Android. I'd miss the freedom of it too much if I switched to WP.

[Barry Spock]

I too think they look nice, and I wouldn't have a problem switching away from iOS, but the one downer for me is the max storage of 32gigs, and no microSD slot. I think the iphone 5 has a hi-specced version of 64gigs, even if it is expensive now, maybe in a year or two wehn I'm ready for an upgrade it'll be cheaper.

 

THere's still a lot of music I want to slap on the phone but can't.

[Blackadder.]

You know why phones like Lumia are failing? Because they keep making the damn things exclusive to carriers. In America its AT&T, in Australia it's Telstra. This only works if the phone is something people will go batsh*t about, like the iPhone. As impressive as the Lumia 920 is, Nokia simply isn't a big name in the smartphone race, and people aren't going to jump carriers just to use that phone. Apple and Samsung are the names that count to the average user, and since they are available on most carriers thats what they'll go for. This is a really stupid decision on Nokia and Microsoft's part, sure they may get paid a bit extra for exclusivity but they'll lose out in the long run. It's business decisions like this which are why these companies are failing.

 

finn4life: No they don't. Thanks to the Microsoft/Nokia partnership they'll probably be producing WP devices until they go out of business. It's a shame too, I would love this device if it was running Android.

[Dragonjack]

Looks pretty good actually and I haven't got a mobile phone just yet though. But I might as well buy this one someday.

[kudoboi]

i would have bought it if it was on android. can't nokia see that they just arnt getting $ from both wp os or their own os

[Sup3rman]

I dont get why people want android, its quite complex still imo, the WP is so much easier and faster to use. I like it a lot more than the ios because thats just boring and because of itunes i dont want to use that.

[Finn 7 five 11]

 

You know why phones like Lumia are failing? Because they keep making the damn things exclusive to carriers. In America its AT&T, in Australia it's Telstra. This only works if the phone is something people will go batsh*t about, like the iPhone. As impressive as the Lumia 920 is, Nokia simply isn't a big name in the smartphone race, and people aren't going to jump carriers just to use that phone. Apple and Samsung are the names that count to the average user, and since they are available on most carriers thats what they'll go for. This is a really stupid decision on Nokia and Microsoft's part, sure they may get paid a bit extra for exclusivity but they'll lose out in the long run. It's business decisions like this which are why these companies are failing.

 

finn4life: No they don't. Thanks to the Microsoft/Nokia partnership they'll probably be producing WP devices until they go out of business. It's a shame too, I would love this device if it was running Android.

God these big companies make some stupid moves, you might be right, Nokia might get driven right out of business, they really need to change, there is plenty of market space, they just need to be accessible and appealing to customers.

 

Right now they are appealing, but they are not accessible, if they weren't exclusive they would have so many more people buying them, because once a few people buy it they recommend it to their friends and it snowballs, but how it is now "OH is that phone good? Oh i can only get it from Telstra with their expensive plans, nah i'll just get an Iphone from Vodaphone for $30 a month."

 

Look at the Iphone, it's the cool thing to have, people who don't know what smartphone to get (possibly converters from their old brick phones) just get the Iphone because "everyone else has one so they must be good."

[Iminicus]

 

I don't think those touch screen smartphones would live up to Nokia's durability standards.

They are still surprisingly tough, if you're not disabled you don't need a super tough phone anyway, my SGS2 has survived every drunken night i have had in the last 9 months.

 

 

Despite windows phones churning out phones like the Lumia, their market share is still falling as you can see below, which is a shame, Nokia used to be a thriving company.

Do they sell Android phones.

 

I feel like slamman, talking about tech and sh*t.

That graph takes into account both Windows Phone 7 and Windows Mobile 6.5. As such, it isn't a fair chart on the growth of Windows Phone 7 since launch.

 

 

Gartner found that in the first quarter of 2012, Microsoft smartphones had a worldwide 1.9% market share, compared to 2.6% a year previously. That's a 27% drop. Keep in mind that those numbers include both Windows Phone and various Microsoft smartphone OS predecessors, so it doesn't mean that Windows Phone's market share has dropped. However, that's not really the point. If people are giving up an old Microsoft smartphone OS, and switching to Android or iOS rather than Windows Phone, it's a failure.

 

Source

 

Notice how they don't separate Windows Phone 7 from Windows Mobile. This is an important point as they are two separate products competing for market share. It isn't like iOS and Android, which with different versions are still the same underlying tech.

 

 

It’s worth mentioning that Nokia Lumia 900 sales figures weren’t calculated into these results. Interestingly enough, however, Gartner predicts that by 2015, Windows Phone will become the second-largest mobile OS behind Android.

 

Source

 

I do believe that since the launch of the Nokia 900 and 800, Windows Phone 7 market share increased several points, nullifying the loses before they launched.

 

 

Canalys, the research firm, found that in the second quarter of 2012, Microsoft’s Windows phone platform made up 3.2 percent of the global market for smartphones, compared to 1.2 percent in the year-earlier quarter. While that number is still tiny, it’s a growth of 277.3 percent. (Canalys’s market share statistics are based on shipments to retail channels, not sales to consumers.)

 

Source

 

That is from August 2012, showing jump of 2% over the first quarter of 2012. And everything I have just read on Windows Phone market share predicts rapid growth after Windows Phone 8.

 

 

Now on topic.

 

I can't f*cking wait. Been a Windows Phone user and love it.

 

 

I use a HTC Trophy 7 running Windows Phone 7 build Mango.

 

I love this phone. The integration of my Windows Live account and Xbox Live account right into the OS is amazing. Plus, with OS integration of Twitter and Facebook, I don't actually need dedicated apps. I know the iPhone now has this. However, at the time Windows Phone 7 was the only OS offering it.

 

I like the fact that with the next version Windows Phone 8, I will have an even better integration of my life between my phone, laptop, desktop, tablet and Xbox. I'll be able to seamlessly move between each device. I won't even have to worry about adding anything to Skydrive because it will automatically save there by default on my phone and tablet. As such, when applicable it will share those with my other devices. This isn't like iCloud or G Drive. With those services you have to manually add items to sync. I won't have to worry about that.

 

I have Office on my phone built in and connected to my laptop and desktop. I am aware iCloud now offers similar features but Windows Phone 7 did it first.

 

I also can access my Xbox Live account and buy points, add Gold, message friends and control my console with my phone. Soon, I'll be able to watch a movie or TV show on the TV and just leave the house but take the movie with me. No one else is offering this.

 

Now, I understand I am talking about features coming in Windows Phone 8 but I am getting into the eco system now with Windows Phone 7 and loving it. The function of Live Tiles can't be underestimated. A glance at them tells me all I need to know. I don't have to open apps to find out anything, like who just tweeted me or emailed me.

 

My Hub is amazing. It consolidates all my accounts ( Twitter, Facebook, GMail, Outlook, Hotmail, LinkedIn, etc ) into one place. I can update everything from there. Change my profile picture and have it affect as many services as I like. Or post a status and have it sent out to all the services or just one.

 

Pinning friends to the Start Menu is brilliant. I can keep those I want constantly updated there and know what is happening. And thanks to the ability to link people with their accounts, I have all their information in one place.

 

For example, I have my girlfriend pinned on my home screen. At a glance, I can see her new Facebook posts, texts, missed calls and emails she has sent me. I then have all her contact details ( sourced from different services ) there to reply with.

 

Of course, there is a lack of apps and I don't mind. There are a few apps I'd like that Android and iOS have but it doesn't bother me that I don't have them, well, except an app for My Account with Vodafone NZ.

 

Now, I must add, before I got my Trophy 7, I was using an iPhone 3G. I enjoyed it but found it so limiting. I don't regret moving to Windows Phone 7 and am eagerly awaiting Windows Phone 8, I just don't know if I will get the 920 Lumia or the ATIV S from Samsung.

 

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So, yeah bring on Windows Phone 8 and all the great phones that are huge updates and not an elongated screen for an extra row of icons.

[Blackadder.]

Yeah yeah, I always hear about how WP8 will dramatically increase market share but I won't believe it until I see it. Microsoft is flopping about all over the place lately and if they really wanted to give WP8 a great launch they would of shot in the gap between the S3's launch and the iPhone 5's announcement. That would have given them a great platform to launch their phones off but now they're trying to launch these phones when the S3 and iPhone 5 have already cemented themself in the market as common names. Yes WP8 is meant to launch around WIndows 8 to tie the ecosystem together or whatever but simple fact is not that many people care about Windows 8, so Microsoft weren't thinking when they banked on that as a selling point.

 

I've literally only met two people that have owned a WP, everyone else owns Android or iPhone. I haven't heard people talking about WP8 either, or any phones associated with it. Most people are going to go Samsung or Apple because they hear those names being thrown around a lot these days. Nokia doesn't mean what it used to. Yes I think the Lumia 920 looks great but to a lot of users Nokia has fallen behind. I don't see Windows Phone taking any significant market share any time soon and I will be surprised if it ever does.

[Pico]

I'll have to look into WP8 and see what features it has. I know RIM's new BB OS is promising. If WP8 has the right stuff then Android and Apple will have ome competition. The cell industry feels stale right now, I'd like something to liven it up.

 

As far as this phone, it doesn't seem like anything spectacular from the specs, but I haven't looked into any videos of it running if any do exist. I'm surprised that VZW hasn't carried any Nokia phones for so long, but I think there are rumors saying we'll get this or a similar phone before the end of the year. What I would hope for is their sales to bomb enough for them to release Android phones... then get that camera from the PureView onto a device running Android. Omg. I'd mess my pants if they did that. The photos from that camera look fantastic.

[MisterMaster]

I think very succesful phone (really). Because (important) lumia use it windows phone 8 n this OS very high quality. Fast, sturdy, extra apps etc. etc. But android is better than windows phone (my idea) you should buy GALAXY NOTE 2 !!

[Iminicus]

Yeah yeah, I always hear about how WP8 will dramatically increase market share but I won't believe it until I see it. Microsoft is flopping about all over the place lately and if they really wanted to give WP8 a great launch they would of shot in the gap between the S3's launch and the iPhone 5's announcement. That would have given them a great platform to launch their phones off but now they're trying to launch these phones when the S3 and iPhone 5 have already cemented themself in the market as common names. Yes WP8 is meant to launch around WIndows 8 to tie the ecosystem together or whatever but simple fact is not that many people care about Windows 8, so Microsoft weren't thinking when they banked on that as a selling point.

 

I've literally only met two people that have owned a WP, everyone else owns Android or iPhone. I haven't heard people talking about WP8 either, or any phones associated with it. Most people are going to go Samsung or Apple because they hear those names being thrown around a lot these days. Nokia doesn't mean what it used to. Yes I think the Lumia 920 looks great but to a lot of users Nokia has fallen behind. I don't see Windows Phone taking any significant market share any time soon and I will be surprised if it ever does.

That would never happen. Microsoft isn't manufacturing the Lumia, it is a Nokia product. As such, they have to rely on Nokia's production channels. Secondly, Windows Phone 8 was still in development during the time between S3 launch and iPhone 5 launch.

 

Microsoft isn't simply updating and adding things to an existing API, they have rebuilt, for the second time in 5 years, their whole Mobile Phone platform. This is why, Windows Phone 7 Devices aren't compatible with Windows Phone 8 software.

 

Windows Phone 7.8 is the implementation of several features into the existing API based on features developed in Windows Phone 8. Where as, Android version 4 and iOS 6 are adding to an existing API, which takes less time to develop and test. Windows Phone 8 started development after Windows Phone 7 went RTM and has been developed alongside Windows 8, since it is a complimentary OS.

 

In fact, many of the features Windows Phone 8 has are developed from Windows 8.

 

 

[Pagelzilla]

So I picked this meaty sucker up on launch day. So far I really like it - and the transition from iOS has been mostly painless. First of all, they practically gave this phone away to me. I traded in my 32GB iPhone 4 for it and somehow received $138 for it toward accessories. I got a invisible shield screen protector and some beats by dre ear buds.

 

I acquired:

Nokia Lumia 920

Wireless charging plate

Beats earbuds

screen protector

 

for a whopping total of $100.

 

My problems with the phone are few, but notable. The battery doesn't last nearly as long as my 2 1/2 year old iPhone 4 did. I blame that on the plethora of background things it has running to work the live tiles. Because of this I turned off most apps that run in the background and will simply manually look at things. First world problems, right?

 

Second, I am incapable of putting music on it which is a serious drag for me because I listen to my sh*t in the car all the time. This is because my only computer is a 2006 Macbook Pro which can't be updated to the necessary OSX 10.7 or later required to run the application I need to put music on the device. That's what I get for buying something that can't be upgraded.

 

Lucky for me though, Nokia music is freaking awesome. I downloaded four playlists of my favorite genres and some mixes i made and can listen to them without any data connection. The caveat is you can only skip six songs in an hour.

 

Bottom Line - I really like using this phone. It's intuitive, solid, smooth, and has a phenomenal camera. If you're thinking about making the switch from iOS, make sure you have at least OSX 10.7 (or a PC...obviously)

[Barry Spock]

^ Very interesting Pagelzilla. I am yet to see one of these in the flesh and probably never will in this country (s.korea).

 

How does the weight of it feel to you?

And how does the size feel? do you put it in a jeans pocket comfortably?

 

I'm an iOS person, but can see that most of the media on the net is Mac-biased, and they keep going on about it being heavy.

[Pagelzilla]

^ Very interesting Pagelzilla. I am yet to see one of these in the flesh and probably never will in this country (s.korea).

 

How does the weight of it feel to you?

And how does the size feel? do you put it in a jeans pocket comfortably?

 

I'm an iOS person, but can see that most of the media on the net is Mac-biased, and they keep going on about it being heavy.

My girlfriend thinks it is heavy, I don't think it feels any different than my old iPhone 4. However, if you're used to holding the iPhone 5 it may seem like a significant difference. The iPhone 5 is 3.95 ounces and the Lumia 920 is 6.5 ounces. In my opinion, the weight argument is a complaint coming from people who are used to using the world's lightest smartphone and isn't a fair comparison.

 

The size has not been an issue at all. Going from a 3.5 inch screen to a 4.5 inch is strange for the first few hours using it, but now I don't even notice it. I don't wear tight jeans so it is able to fit comfortably in my pocket. One of the most notable characteristics of the 920 is how solid it feels. It doesn't feel nearly as fragile as my iPhone 4.