Are we being brainwashed?

[uzi 9mm]

Long story short, me and my friend were talking, started off with work, then started on about the current economic situations, and then went on to who's the richest person on the whole world, which I thought Bill Gates was, we were debating on if it was the Queen or what, and how the people with money have power etc. so I just had to Google it at home and was brought to forbes which has a list, but didn't have the Queen there, so I googled it about the Queen specifically and somehow ended up looking up information on Illuminati, which I've heard about loads of times before but never read about properly.

 

This is the page...

 

http://armageddonconspiracy.co.uk/The-Illuminati(903482).htm

 

Now I read this and am thinking about what it all means, and by looking at all the links on the side of the page there's a lot on this site. It'd be better to probably read the interview to get an idea of it before reading the topic from here on.

 

Now I'm actually afraid to read too much because I'm not into all this, and mainly, just by reading the interview (in the link I posted) it's not hard to see what picture is being painted. The Senior member of the illuminati who is speaking out is trying to make people believe that they are the good one's and the enemy are the bad ones.

 

Ok ok, the Illuminati is a group of around a thousand people in total, and are supposedly devising a plan that if the world of today knew about, would cause world unimaginable cataclysm, so I take it the enemy are the world leaders such as the Presidents, Prime Ministers etc. The Illuminati group is made of only a selected group of people, some are rich and even well known people, some are not, and they are part of a 'New World Order' scheme and are constantly sending out hidden messages to try and 'get' to people and side with them I guess.

 

They want the worlds population to be reduced to 5.5 billion, and other insane rules, basically, they're after World Domination in a sense, where the people in charge now would not be in charge anymore, and to do that would require most of the World's population to be 'in' the Illuminati, which would mean bit by bit this secret organisation is going to make their ways into the minds of todays people, gradually brainwashing them up until the point where they can be more open about their presence, get people to join them, build a f*cking army and take over the world, or something insanely out of hand.

 

So I clicked on one of the side link on the page titled How to become God...which is this link here: http://armageddonconspiracy.co.uk/How-to-B...God(720120).htm

 

And that brought me to another page on the same site with paragraphs of text (which I have not read) I skimmed though, and it seems like a lot, and I mean A LOT of brainwash stuff, is it safe to read, I don't know, everybody reacts differently to intake of knowledge, and maybe what written on this site isn't for everyone, and I don't feel to read about any myself, even though I feel a bit like doing so, I won't because they seem to be touching on subjects that draw you in and once I start I may not be able to stop (i.e, I'd get brainwashed).

 

I should say that it is quite frightening knowing that there's a secret society made up of wealthy/important people and such who have a goal like this and are currently in operation and can be dangerous and even assassinate people who disagree to co-operate with them (for eg. Kennedy?). There are people out there who are going to do something, it's just a matter of when, and the days of being private and out-of-the way as apposed to being famous and in the public eye may soon be over if this plan comes into action.

 

If anyone knows more about Illuminati (and I don't mean 'Yea man 2pac is always talking illuminati I know about dat shizzle' I mean real knowledge about it) speak up.

 

Are we being brainwashed?

Edited September 27, 2012 by uzi 9mm

[baptiste]

Dont watch Ancient Aliens bro, you'll be watching the skies.

[uzi 9mm]

Well I'm just saying it's pretty scary stuff, don't you want to know what the big secret is? I do after hearing about it, but you'd have to become a part of the illuminati for this (which to do anyway is practically out of bounds), and that's the bad thing about it.

[na89340qv0n34b09q340]

This is MIKON8ERISBACK reminding you not to click links to sights sites registered in the UK

 

I didn't read that websight website, but humans aren't computers, and it would be difficult to f*ck people up by making them read text, you might be able to confuse them, but I doubt you could trick a human into comprehending something that'll brainwash them.

 

WARNING DO NOT READ IF YOU HATE HEARING ABOUT HOW THE MEDIA BRAINWASHES US

The only thing brainwashing us today is pop culture, and they do it very slowly over long periods of time through the use of stereotypes and de-sensitization to bad humor and stupid things/people. Oh, and advertising which won't hurt anything but your avoidance to materialism.

 

edit: site != sight

[Adler]

 

Well I'm just saying it's pretty scary stuff, don't you want to know what the big secret is? I do after hearing about it, but you'd have to become a part of the illuminati for this (which to do anyway is practically out of bounds), and that's the bad thing about it.

What's so scary? Don't resist, and it'll be a lot easier for you.

[ainsz]

Everyone seems to have a different take on what the illuminati actually is. Which kinda disregards it's existence. A bit like religion!

 

Although it does make some really interesting reading, it's nothing to be scared of. Many people like to use the subject to fear monger. Don't believe everything you read, but its cool to take an interest and also to keep an open mind.

 

One notable person is David Icke who has gone overboard with his theories on what the illuminati is, such as lizard people! Yet he has attracted quite a following. In my opinion, it's just people looking for something to believe in.

 

A supposedly more factual belief on what the illuminati is or was, a small group of intellectuals that derived from The Free Masons, such as Thomas Edison, that helped develop new technologies during the 17 and 18 hundreds but also control it's usage and outlet to the public so that they could be monopolised.

 

A more popular belief (because it's more fun) is that the illuminati is somehow linked with the Mayan Calendar ending, and that when it does end, the New World Order will begin and life as we know it will no longer continue!

 

But again, it's all subjective.. Keep reading into it if you have an interest, just remember not to take it too seriously.

Edited September 27, 2012 by ainsz

[uzi 9mm]

Well I know humans aren't computers, but when text is displayed on the screen for someone to read, as long as you can understand what it is that's being said, you can take in the knowledge, start to learn more on the subject and start to get brainwashed.

 

Look at this I found on the site:

 

The Old World Order is all about establishing a permanent patrician class. It looks to the mediaeval concept of the monarch appointed by 'divine right' and able to pass the crown down the family line forever.

 

So in other words the people who are in charge now will always be the ones in power until the end basically, the Royal Family will always be the ones in charge of the country and nothing will change that....well according to the Illuminati, they will change it, if you get my drift. That's the image they're portraying, they want a change.

 

I personally don't mind being where I am at the moment, and I certainly couldn't care less about who's in charge and that the Royal Family will always have that level of power and the rest of us stay at a lower level of class, it's the way life is, someone has to be in charge and that's how it goes, but this group of people don't seem to like how things are running and want to make a change, that to me is saying they are the bad ones.

[Pyrrhic]

This is MIKON8ERISBACK reminding you not to click links to sights sites registered in the UK

 

I didn't read that websight website, but humans aren't computers, and it would be difficult to f*ck people up by making them read text, you might be able to confuse them, but I doubt you could trick a human into comprehending something that'll brainwash them.

 

WARNING DO NOT READ IF YOU HATE HEARING ABOUT HOW THE MEDIA BRAINWASHES US

The only thing brainwashing us today is pop culture, and they do it very slowly over long periods of time through the use of stereotypes and de-sensitization to bad humor and stupid things/people. Oh, and advertising which won't hurt anything but your avoidance to materialism.

 

edit: site != sight

OMG MIKON8R HACKED ZOO'S ACCOUNT IM TELLING THE MODS

[na89340qv0n34b09q340]

@uzi 9mm

Yeah, I kinda think of brainwashing as a direct thing, where the subject matter directly makes you think differently, I didn't take it into account like that. But if we use your theory the illuminati would want you to look into their stuff, especially if they controlled pop culture (or at least low-mainstream hip hop, and online celebrity gossip) as so many illuminati-believers believe.

 

@lzw3

Can some mod please delete lzw3's post, it really gets on my nerves when people catch me doing stuff like this.

[uzi 9mm]

@uzi 9mm

Yeah, I kinda think of brainwashing as a direct thing, where the subject matter directly makes you think differently, I didn't take it into account like that. But if we use your theory the illuminati would want you to look into their stuff, especially if they controlled pop culture (or at least low-mainstream hip hop, and online celebrity gossip) as so many illuminati-believers believe.

 

@lzw3

Can some mod please delete lzw3's post, it really gets on my nerves when people catch me doing stuff like this.

Well, yea, it's kind of natural, the only possible way of causing a New World Order, which basically excludes who ever is in charge, meaning dethroning the Queen, telling Obama to f*ck off and eliminating Police forces.

 

Something major like that is unruly, but theoretically possible... if the majority of the people join forces, because as no matter how rich or important the people in charge are today, nothing can stop an army of people who unite, and the only way the Illuminati can 'recruit' anyone to be a part of something so insane is by slowly taking control and and getting into people's minds.

 

Everyone saw the London riots, a perfect example of how things can get out of hand in a country like England where the law is very much in control (or so it may seem). Fair enough there's a lot worse situations going on around the world right now that make the London riots seem like kids in the playground (Syria, Somalia, the Egypt riots that happened) BUT, remember England is a small country, and the Police are a very powerful presence in the City, and that day the Police did bring things under control eventually, but not as they planned, riots broke out immediately and the Police didn't have a clue, if it happened again, I'm sure things could get worse, keep in mind that about 80% of the rioters were people aged below 30, the younger generation, the easy target's of the illuminati, and look at how much chaos the younger people can cause when it comes down to it....

 

if you ask me the generation of people aged 30 and above are probably ok, but below that age, that generation of people and the ones yet to come, will be easy targets for the illuminati and will get sucked in easier, and the army of people that the illuminati want to build is of our generation, (meaning us, our children, and their children!), plagued and brainwashed by TV, entertainment and today's society where it's very difficult to earn a living in the current recession, who knows what's to come?

 

We'll wait and see....

[Mr.Mister]

The Illuminati is too big of a discussion for most peoples brain capacity here

[uzi 9mm]

That's what it's like here now? Well maybe it is too much. I just thought it was an interesting thing to talk about.

[Pyrrhic]

That's what it's like here now?

Only around here.

[uzi 9mm]

That's what it's like here now?

Only around here.

Yea that's what I was thinking.

[sivispacem]

"Are we being brainwashed?"

 

No. I suggest you read the mass of other conspiracy theory topics that have had the hell locked out of them in this forum and others before posting this kind of thing in future.

 

Your "source" is utterly laughable.

[John The Grudge]

People don't need to be brainwashed. Just give them the koolaid and they'll drink it. Few will even ask why.

Edited September 28, 2012 by John The Grudge

[GTA36362355]

We're being brainwashed into thinking there is Illuminati by the Illuminati. Go figure.

[Finn 7 five 11]

 

I should say that it is quite frightening knowing that there's a secret society made up of wealthy/important people and such who have a goal like this and are currently in operation and can be dangerous and even assassinate people who disagree to co-operate with them

 

To be honest, i am more scared of the creepy guy always raking his leaves off the front lawn down the street.

[Ryda King]

Pffft, what a conspiracy nut! The Illuminati totally doesn't exist.

 

 

 

I'm sure Bohemian Grove is nothing bad either. With world leaders and even the President of The United States (several of the them) attending.

 

 

 

What's the big deeeeaalll, bro? It's only the most powerful men in the world congregating together in robes and otrches, sacrificing a human being on a pire to a giant 40ft statue they worship. Pffft. Big deal. Richard Nixon, Ronald Regan, and George Bush Sr & Jr attended. So what?

 

And the music industry? Oh please. There's nothing bad about it at all.

 

 

 

See? Nothing bad. You're just a stupid conspiracy theorist who doesn't know what he's talking about.

 

Please, just shut up and never talk again. Man, your stupidity made me thirsty. Gonna go get a drink of my fluoridated water. I should go get some vaccines too, Government says it's good for me. That new GMO food looks delicious too. Yummy.

[Robinski]

^The best satire.

 

I've always thought people bought into this sh*t because they don't like how disorganised the world is. The idea that every nation is made of of just a bunch of people who are fallible and just trying to do their jobs, not capable of taking everything in is scary to them. Thus, the idea that behind the scenes there is someone superior pulling the strings, making sure everything goes a particular way (which way doesn't matter) is comforting, even if the someone is "evil", because there is a certain order to it rather than scary and unpredictable chaos.

[sivispacem]

 

Please, just shut up and never talk again.

Quite.

 

I don't "get" you. You ramble on about every conspiracy under the sun but when someone asks you to quantify your views or offers an informed critique of them, you either stonewall and refuse to discuss it or accuse them of being brainwashed. If your views had even the slightest merit, then surely you'd be willing to defend them? I can only presume that this is a response based solely on the fact that you are unable to defend what you say. Your arguments are hardly helped by the complete lack of veracity in your sources. Youtube videos do not constitute evidence of anything in a discussion of this nature. If those views held any weight, they'd be open to proper review and examination.

 

Also, what the well else would world leaders be doing if not meeting each other? How on earth is that a "conspiracy"?

Edited September 28, 2012 by sivispacem

[Ryda King]

 

Please, just shut up and never talk again.

Quite.

 

I don't "get" you. You ramble on about every conspiracy under the sun but when someone asks you to quantify your views or offers an informed critique of them, you either stonewall and refuse to discuss it or accuse them of being brainwashed. If your views had even the slightest merit, then surely you'd be willing to defend them? I can only presume that this is a response based solely on the fact that you ate unable to defend what you say.

 

Also, what the well else would world leaders be doing if not meeting each other? How on earth is that a "conspiracy"?

World leaders congregate together in black robes, hold torches, sacrifice human being on a pire to a 40ft statue named Moloch and say "We beseech thee, Bohemia!" all the time. I know. Totally normal for them. And I mean, when they talk about cremating and burning away their care, they're really saying they love us. That guy screaming as the torch is thrown on him? I'm sure he's acting.

 

Those crazy conspriacy theorists, haha. They have no clue what they're talking about. I mean, I'm totally with you, bro! Hey, wanna go get lunch? I heard that place selling new GMO foods is open. C'mon! I'm sure all those reports of it being poisoned are ridiculous and untrue. The Government wouldn't lie to us or kill it's own people! Come on! That's just crazy!

 

 

Youtube videos do not constitute evidence of anything in a discussion of this nature.

 

Yeah, you're right. F*ck actual video footage of the Bohemian Grove ritual, actual documentation of the formation of the Illuminati, or various evidence sorrounding the claims of the Illuminati controlling the music industry/world.

 

Clearly just stupid crap and has no relevancy.

Edited September 28, 2012 by Ryda King

[Robinski]

If that sort of stuff was actually happening, how come no credible investigative report has ever been done on it? And before you tell me some sh*t about how they'd be hunted down, blocked and intimated at every turn, how come some random nutjobs are allowed to post this sh*t online? Surely those same people who would disrupt credible journalists' activities would want to get rid of them too? I mean if they're doing the former, it's not like they give a damn about free speech or freedom of information is it?

 

There's no lack of anyone brave enough to do it either. Imagine being the person who brought something like that to the world? Every news organisation would be on it because it's the story of the century. That journalist would be the most famous social activist ever. Forget Assange, forget Guevara, the person who brought that down would be a timeless name.

 

Hint: it's because it's bull.

Edited September 28, 2012 by Robinski

[Ryda King]

Every news organisation would be on it because it's the story of the century. That journalist would be the most famous social activist ever.

 

Yes, the mainstream media will definitely tell everyone the world leaders perform rituals in black robes and torches and sacrifice people in a fire for a giant statue they worship.

 

The guys who do tell it to the world? They're those random nutjobs. Everyone knows they don't know what they're talking about and they're just insane people. I mean, I've never actually listened to them, but everyone and the media tells me they're crazy so that's enough for me to believe I shouldn't listen to them.

 

Kinda like how I've never listened to that band, but everyone tells me they suck so I'm not gonna listen and judge for myself.

[sivispacem]

Every news organisation would be on it because it's the story of the century. That journalist would be the most famous social activist ever.

 

Yes, the mainstream media will definitely tell everyone the world leaders perform rituals in black robes and torches and sacrifice people in a fire for a giant statue they worship.

Sorry but the footage has no veracity. There is not one single shred of evidence indicating it is what it claims to be. It has no veracity, absolutely none to speak of. If you genuinely think that world leaders gather to sacrifice people to a "pagan god" which is in reality no such thing and merely an extension of historic religious persecution of non-Christians during the pre-enlightenment era, then that's fine. You believe whatever unsubstantiated, meritless bullsh*t you want. But to suggest others are ignorant based on such a perverse view just indicates you have no understanding of what you are discussing, ergo your views ate entirely without merit.

[anus]

@Ryda King, So what's the way out then? Worrying till you die? Killing yourself?

[HOAXi]

Well I'm just saying it's pretty scary stuff, don't you want to know what the big secret is? I do after hearing about it, but you'd have to become a part of the illuminati for this (which to do anyway is practically out of bounds), and that's the bad thing about it.

You're being paranoid and you're the one letting yourself get brainwashed. Yes there are secrets, illuminati does exist and no, the elite doesn't care sh*t about you, but try be a little bit more balanced because there's hysteria from the other side as well. Easy to get brainwashed and manipulated by all the pseudoscience conspiracy theories also. Lots of people tend to forget about that part.

 

Live your life instead of worrying all about it.

 

 

and by the way... Satanism is one thing but Satan isn't anything. He nor any other spiritualities exists.

 

Do you believe in ALL conspiracy theories out there?

 

Perhaps you should take a look at yourself, because you're part of the second weakest group in our society.

It's alright being a little bit critical once in a while you know. Don't just believe everything your friends and community believes in.

 

Basing your life on "maybe" and "if" is plain stupidity. You limit your life.

[Dragonjack]

Who the hell knows and nobody would care. People will just focus on what they are doing in there lives, Jobs, Familes..But conspiracy theories? That's pretty crazy indeed

 

 

But it does sounds interesting in my opinion.

[*MURDOC*]

Funniest sh*t I've read in awhile.

 

Keep up the idiocy and overly sarcastic posts and you're likely to convert more sheep into different coloured sheep.

[Ryda King]

 

Sorry but the footage has no veracity. There is not one single shred of evidence indicating it is what it claims to be. It has no veracity, absolutely none to speak of. If you genuinely think that world leaders gather to sacrifice people to a "pagan god" which is in reality no such thing and merely an extension of historic religious persecution of non-Christians during the pre-enlightenment era, then that's fine. You believe whatever unsubstantiated, meritless bullsh*t you want. But to suggest others are ignorant based on such a perverse view just indicates you have no understanding of what you are discussing, ergo your views ate entirely without merit.

And you wonder why I don't debate things with you anymore.

 

But for the record.

 

 

Leaked list of people attending Bohemian Grove. But I'm sure it's fake. Even though it was leaked by a guy who went to the goddamn place, shot video of the owl statue up close and even inside.

 

 

Both Bushes attending BG.

 

 

Two US Presidents at Bohemian Grove.

 

But I'm sure that's all bullshlt too.