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The "living, breathing city"


Patrizio
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The living, breathing city is something Rockstar constantly and consistently strive to achieve - no doubt they will speak about it when the previews come out.

 

They greatly built on this in IV - buskers, people on phones, postmen, people doing Thai Chi, and bin men at the early hours, among others.

 

What else can they add that will develop this?

 

One thing I would propose, which AFAIK has never been in a GTA yet, is something most of us experience every time we go on a car journey - emergency vehicles passing through. This does not really happen randomly in GTA and should - it would greatly add to the immersion of a real city.

 

With the development of RDR's random encounters this can be greatly enhanced.

 

What else can be developed?

 

If this not suitable for a topic then feel free to lock of course.

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I loved the random encounters in RDR. TO be fair they had those in GTA IV as well but for some reason the NPC's were placed in strategic places so it seemed more realistic. I for one am so psyched to see how the world will be even more "living/breathing"!

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You know what GTA needs? Food trucks

 

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They would appear randomly across the city and after an hour or so move onto a new spot, think a more interesting version of hot dog stands.

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Yes! How about peds queuing up for an Ice Cream Van?

Sure why not, but I think it would look less ridiculous if they were queuing at a food truck instead. Talking about queuing the should have peds doing it more often I thought it was cool seeing people standing outside the club in tbogt

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More of an atmosphere at certain parts of the day.

 

In the morning, you hear birds or something.

Maybe at 5pm, rush hour starts, more traffic.

Night time, walking past a club and you can hear the loud music like you can when you're outside of a open roof car in IV. Or maybe more things going on, people get thrown out/drunk people on street which could lead to your "more HOT cars roaming around".

 

There's so many things they can do, we will just have to wait and see.

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I have been waiting for a game to develop a system in which changes you (the player) make, stay there.

 

So, when you leave a car, it stays (until you move it, or the po-pos do).

 

Or when you set some C4 and take out the side of a building. I want it to take time to repair.

 

Summer, Fall, Winter, Spring seasons... (snow & ice storms would be epic)

 

Etc...

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I don't know how hard it would be to do, but it would be cool in the rougher areas of LS if you saw people playing basketball out in the street or on basketball courts.

 

I'm also thinking the screenshot of the two people playing tennis will be something we encounter.

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I don't know how hard it would be to do, but it would be cool in the rougher areas of LS if you saw people playing basketball out in the street or on basketball courts.

 

I'm also thinking the screenshot of the two people playing tennis will be something we encounter.

Shouldn't be too hard, If you haven't played Max payne 3 theres a part were you see 3 kids playing football (not american football) even though it was scripted and short it was a pretty cool sight.

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The kids playing in Max Payne 3 was my favorite. It might seem like I'm exaggerating, but it was the most natural, realistic looking thing I've ever seen in a game. It would be hard to do something like this in GTA V, because in MP3 it was clearly just some actual kids R* motion captured. All you could do was see them play for a few seconds, but no interaction. It would be cool to see basketball games being played or people skating and doing tricks at skate parks.

 

I also really loved the people who would play music sometimes in RDR. Street performers(musicians, dancers, crazy people?) would also be a nice touch in GTA V. R* should also have homeless people who actually hang around liquor stores, ask for money, and get sh*t-faced like in real life.

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Mail trucks driving around early in the morning, same as how Garbage trucks in IV only appeared in the small hours of the morning.

 

As op said, emergency vehicles driving in traffic both normally and with sirens on, without being spawned due to the players actions

 

Armoured money vans to have actual armed security personal driving them, to give a small challange when player wants to steal it.

 

Random encounters plus stranger missions ala IV and RDR

 

 

Think these are all possible icon14.gif

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- They should have nightclubs/discos and things in GTA V and on occasion, you can walk past or cruise past and the bouncers throwing someone out of the building! Also, there should be drinking games and stuff. Actually going into a bar, buying alcohol and getting absolutely hammered!

 

- On GTA IV, I've barely seen people waiting at a bus stop waiting for a bus or getting on one. This did happen on GTA Vice City a lot, although it was unrealistically scripted. Also when you walk up to a bus in GTA IV which is rare (unless you install a traffic flow mod), they usually have 2 or 3 peds on board at most. How about some buses being full of passengers, have some standing up because there are no seats!

Or even, we have taxi rides and train rides, why can't you have bus rides?

 

- Emergency callouts (fire, ambulance, police) that isn't due to the main characters doing.

 

- People receiving deliveries from delivery drivers

 

- More buskers out on the streets, maybe full rock bands instead of one person all of the time.

 

- Maybe on occasion have a burglar break into a property stealing stuff then reporting it to the police, then the player receives a reward of getting them brought to justice!

 

- If the player causes chaos e.g creating a traffic pileup, you should be able to see pedestrians gather around, taking pictures and filming it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I would love to see different weather conditions instead of just rain. It would be nice to see snow, tornadoes in the countryside.

Tsunami would be epic, Sandstorm in the deserts.

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Algonquin Assassin

 

I would love to see different weather conditions instead of just rain. It would be nice to see snow, tornadoes in the countryside.

Tsunami would be epic, Sandstorm in the deserts.

I doubt we'd ever see tsunamis and tornadoes this gen, but a sandstorm could be done. RDR was a step in the tight direction.

 

I liked how puddles accumulated after it rained. Severe wind gusts probably wouldn't be far fetched either.

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Peds that ramdomly interact with each other. Also, that sometimes you see peds walking around in pairs (or trios) talking to each other. It would be nice too.

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Some of these may have already been mentioned, but here's my list:

 

Random events:

-New years parade in Chinatown (If there is one)

-Carnivals at the boardwalk.

-people trying to mug you

-drive-bys in the more ghetto parts of LS

-Police chasing NPCs (The real deal with choppers in the air, roadblocks, ect. Not like the occasional ped being chased in previous games.)

-Riots

-people getting in fights after a small fender-benders.

-suicides(from jumping and from guns)

-random gang wars/turf fights

-house/apartment fires(complete with fire trucks and paramedics)

-road blocks for movie sets

 

 

Side missions:

-Taxi Driver

-Paramedic

-Vigilante

-fire fighter

-Movie stunts(if TV makes a return, then you might see a commercial for the movie with your stunt in the trailer.)

 

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When I look at the Watch Dogs trailer, you see pedestrians react to an accident that happened. It would be really nice if they could do this in the game.

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You know what GTA needs? Food trucks

 

user posted image

 

They would appear randomly across the city and after an hour or so move onto a new spot, think a more interesting version of hot dog stands.

Sure, I believe the only food truck was that Hotdog Truck from San Andreas, right? Or am I wrong?

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All they will need a sh!tload of things that peds will do. IV kinda failed in that aspect, as most people were just walking around.

 

I'd like to walk outside of my house, and then see the park across the street, and you'd see different people doing things such as

 

- Teenages riding skateboards and BMXs in the skate parks, with a few skateboards and bikes lying around for you to join in

 

- Old people sitting on the park bench reading the newspaper, or going for a stroll.

 

- Birds walking around in the less populated area of the pak

 

- Alot more peds than the usual park in IV had

 

- People on their phones, be it calling, texrting, or playing Raged Pigeons

 

- A couple having a picnic

 

- People actually walking into the park, after parking their cars, and people leaving the park, taking their parked car away.

 

 

And to create a living, breathing city, there is also things that the player should be able to interact with.

 

- With the skateboards, there should be a basic stunt system, a bit like the Skate series but not as in-depth.

 

- Park benches to sit down on

 

- Ducks to feed if there's a pond

 

- If you walk with a gun out, peds will see it and some will call cops, and some will run away. Some will awkwardly try to ignore it whilst walking away hoping they don't get shot in the back.

 

- If there are teenagers playing football, perhaps the ball could go away from the field and they'll ask you to pass it back. If you do they'll say thanks and if you don't, they'll start swearing at you and the occasional one attacks you.

 

- Perhaps a park vendor stall, with some chairs and tables and you can get your food and take it to a table and sit down.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Alot of people who play GTA for the action will probably call me weird, and tell me to play The Sims, but I enjoy stuff like that in games. Constant chaos 24/7 really wears out for me after some time, and sometimes I just want to be more civilised.

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All they will need a sh!tload of things that peds will do. IV kinda failed in that aspect, as most people were just walking around.

 

 

NOOOoooooo, No way! Its a living breathing city! Look! This pedestrian started an animation where he's pushing a broom! Thats the most realistic thing ive ever seen! Wow that woman didnt even pick up her cell phone afterdropping it! So living! So breathing! Its just like a real city!

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It would be cool to have your own radio station where you add your own tracks, and it would be cool if reandom people where smoking, people rushing by you on bikes honestly i liked gta chinatown, they need to get ideas from that

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npcs interacting with each other realistically would help a great deal i think, in gta 4 you kinda just feel like some guy walking around surrounded by a load of human looking robots, i wanna see people argue with each other, ppl sell drugs in alley ways, gangs of kids hanging around corner shops and parks, when someone is being chased by police for people to act shocked and scared not just walk past like nothings happening, basically i want to feel like the npcs kinda have a life of their own if its possible not just reacting around you and what you do

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This is a good topic sir.

 

-Like GTA IV the pedestrians phoning one another.

-Having picnics at the park

-Fixing cars

-If there is a car crash i think a huge crowd of folk can gather round to see what is going on etc. same with a dead body or a crime that is taking place

 

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This is a good topic sir.

 

-If there is a car crash i think a huge crowd of folk can gather round to see what is going on etc. same with a dead body or a crime that is taking place

 

 

Great idea!

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This is a good topic sir.

 

-If there is a car crash i think a huge crowd of folk can gather round to see what is going on etc. same with a dead body or a crime that is taking place

 

 

Great idea!

Yeah good idea. Crowds gathered in the III era, and, in addition to running away, should return. Especially if someone falls from a building.

 

Speaking of which, is random ped suicide too bleak or would a ped jumping off a building add to the immersion?

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Peds hailing taxis.

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Peds masturbating in public. You can then cut their penis off with a ketana or stick a grenade right between their meat flaps.

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Peds masturbating in public. You can then cut their penis off with a ketana or stick a grenade right between their meat flaps.

Agreed.

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Peds masturbating in public. You can then cut their penis off with a ketana or stick a grenade right between their meat flaps.

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I love how we're all just saying what we would like even though the game is probably already developed and there's no chance they'll take our suggestions but hey, I'll buy in.

 

I've always wanted to walk down the street and see people lined up for clubs.

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