ALMOST610 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 (edited) Forget all the rest, Vice Beta Collection is the Best! 2017 UpdateCelebrating 15 Years of Vice City Over the last 15 years there has been many different Beta mods started for Vice City, although some have started with small goals, some with big, very few have actually made decent releases of content, and those that have, usually have rushed to get releases and the content is not very accurate. The goal for Vice Beta Collection is to focus on the finer details over time, instead of aiming for a full conversion mod, small aspects will be focused on and released upon completion, hopefully over time it will all contribute to becoming the Vice Beta Collection…. This topic is a general overview of the whole Vice Beta Collection, there is a separate topic in the Vehicle Section that specifically looks at and contains the progress made on Beta Vehicles, this topic though will also post progress made to the vehicles but only updates or file releases not work in progress shots, everything else that gets worked on for the Collection will be showcased here in both completed and work in progress stages or to either release the files for download or to get feedback on changes made, although it may seem like not a lot had changed from earlier development stages of the game there has been lots of little clues left behind as to changes that were made, some mapping changes can be found by bugs left on buildings when they were edited in a rush others from LOD Models left in the map, all the way to early versions of the games HUD map left in files. Some changes to the game can easily be made, others might need to be completed based on some guesswork or using a little bit of a creative freedom to interpret the clues left behind or the blurry distant objects seen in early gameplay screenshots or videos, either way, Say G’Day, drop in some feedback, and let me know how you think my interpretation of a Beta Vice City is coming together. Beta Vehicles of Vice City, some vehicles seem to have been designed once and then left alone with no revisions, others can be seen progressing through one or more different stages and some although never actually shown in earlier stages, had content left behind in the files which has given clues as to what they might have previously looked like. For more Information regarding the Vehicles, Including front and rear shots and Download links for all pictured Vehicles…Please visit the Vice Beta Collection – Vehicles Topic orGTA Garage – Vice Beta Collection Vehicles This section is yet to be updated for the 2017 Update [2017 Mapping – Map Pack 1 Released]Please visit the linked post for information and a Download Link.(2017 Map Pack 1 – Vice Beta Collection – Mapping Post) The Beta Airport Previously posted will be revised and updated before it is added to a new release. Changes have been made to Little Haiti removing some of the roads that were not present in earlier versions of the map. Changes have been made to Ocean Drive/North Beach removing some Bridges, Roads and the Tool Shop. Changes made to Fort Baxter Air Base / Vice City International Airport This section is yet to be updated for the 2017 Update Weapons previously shown need to be checked over again before inclusion in the new release. This section is yet to be updated for the 2017 Update The Updates to the HUD Colours need to be double checked again before inclusion in the new release.The revised Peds need to be checked over again before inclusion in the new release. AuthorALMOST610 ContributorsTripleAsITBTD Shoutouts / CreditsMaxorator – Maxo’s Vehicle LoaderCPMusick – GTA Mod Installer HackMan128 - eASIer Vice Beta Collection – Main Topic Vice Beta Collection – Vehicles Topic Vice Beta Collection – GTA Garage Page Vice Beta Collection – Vehicles – GTA Garage Page [OLD MAIN POST HIDDEN IN SPOILER] 2017 NOTE: THIS FIRST POST IS IN DIRE NEED OF AN UPDATEDROPBOX HAS BROKEN ALL THE LINKS IN THIS POST TO PICTURES AND DOWNLOADS Main Topic ----------------------------- After watching time and time again Vice City Beta Mods start with large goals and aiming high only to fail I have decided it was about time someone actually make some decent beta content that gets released, so the main goal of Vice Beta Collection is not to make a full beta recreation but only certain content that is actually possible and also to release the mod in stages, so as to not drag out releases for months and months while waiting for different parts to be finished, when one certain aspect is finished, it is released, which will hopefully over time slowly build up a small collection of Beta content to release a kinda Beta Mini Mod. ----------------------------- - Stage 1 - Goals - Escobar Internation Airport Rebuild [70%] - TripleAs's Beta Cars [100%] - Trailer 3 Beta Wheels [100%] - PS2 SCM [100%] - Radar Alignment (For Map Changes) [0%] - Manhunt/Beta VC Blista Compact Conversion [100%] Stage 1 - Incomplete Compile Download Stage 1 was to get some of the Beta Airport modeled up, progress of which can be tracked in the Airport/Mapping topic, TripleAs's Beta car pack was to be integrated into the mod giving us some of the Beta Cars, the Vice City Beta Blista Compact was to be converted from Manhunt back to GTA, the Wheels from the Vice City Trailer 3 were integrated into the mod, We got the PS2 SCM which has spawns for weapons like the Tear Gas and such placed around the Map and Finally Radar and SCM changes were to be made to allow for the changes being made at the Airport. ----------------------------- - Stage 2 - Goals - Finish Escobar Internation Airport Rebuild [70%] - Radar Alignment (For Map Changes) [0%] - SCM Changes [0%] - Beta Weapons [??] - New Beta Cars [30%] Stage 2 is to hopefully finish the Rebuild at the Airport and get some progress made on making the Radar and SCM changes to reflect those map changes, Rebuild some of TripleAs's Beta Cars which are not accurate and also make some more of the ones he never did, progress can be tracked in the Beta Vehicles Topic, and ITBTD has been converting some of the Beta Weapons as pictured in this topic and hopefully will be able to send them my way before I gather enough changes to warrant the Stage 2 release.-----------------------------Pictures, Progress & More Pictures, Progress and other details for Certain aspects of the mod will be kept in their own topics to try and not get things lost in this one big topic, at this stage Vehicles and Mapping will have their own topics, links to which can be found below, and then other general parts will be kept in here, occasionally a summary update from the Vehicles and Mapping topics will be posted in here to bring those not following the subtopics up to speed on what has been happening in others areas of the mod. ----------------------------- Details Vice Beta Collection - Main Topic Vice Beta Collection - Beta Airport Vice Beta Collection - Vehicles Vice Beta Collection - GTA Garage Vice Beta Collection - Vehicles - GTA Garage Resources Trailer 3 Beta Wheels Manhunt Beta Blista Compact TripleAs Beta Cars The Team ALMOST610 Past Members Dylan2112 (ITBTD) TripleAs Past Contributors THE HERO(I believe we were going to use his Beta Cop Car at one point, Im not sure if it madeit into any released version but will be replace with a new model by me) Edited March 8, 2017 by ALMOST610 Lexyz., Reizov, Vishnuka and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Analogue Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 (edited) Update: Well I found the real beta Python in the PS2 IMG awhile back. As you can see the original model has a bunch of back-facing faces which is likely because the original PS2 version had culling (double sided polys) much like GTAIII so I manually flipped each poly to the best of my ability to make it PC worthy. Still quite WIP since it doesn't quite fit Tommy's hand yet but I will fix that when I can. Edited September 20, 2012 by ITBTD Shogun Pacino and Vishnuka 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGodfather. Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 What now a days I see most of the mods either BETA mods like Sanandreas BETA,Vice City Beta ,III Beta , IV BETA & many more BETA like BETA Gangs, BETA Weapons ,BETA Vehicles ...etc....... & at last the one who started the mod just leaves the mod unfinished so the BETA remains a BETA... I hope it doesn't go with this mod too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyragas13 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Great job! good luck you guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheD94 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Sweet revolver... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael-Knight1 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Good Luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnusedReseacher Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 What does SCM Changes and Radar Alignment mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael-Knight1 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 What does SCM Changes and Radar Alignment mean? SCM Changes mean changing scripts with new missions , etc ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALMOST610 Posted September 21, 2012 Author Share Posted September 21, 2012 (edited) What does SCM Changes and Radar Alignment mean? If you read the first post you would have seen that I wrote a small description as to what the SCM and Radar changes were. ------------------------------------------------- On some other changes, as it was brought to my attention in another topic (Here), Manhunt had some crossover models and textures from the Grand Theft Auto series and one of those things was the Beta version of the Blista Compact, dont get me wrong TripleAs done a fantastic job making his Beta Blista C but since I actually have the original Beta Blista Compact I'm going to convert it and get it included in either Stage 1 or 2. Also I would like to thank Swoorup who is seeing if he can make an external loader to change the Hud Colours and change the Map Limits. On The Left is the Final VC Blista C - On The Right is the Manhunt/Beta VC model [Click on Images to see a larger version] On The Left is the Manhunt/Beta VC model - On The Right is the Final VC Blista C [Click on Images to see a larger version] All that I have to do is split the model up, as all the doors, hood, etc is one big clump, and also reapply the textures. Edit: Shrunk Images - Click For Bigger Version Edited September 25, 2012 by ALMOST610 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael-Knight1 Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 @ALMOST610 , you're the best into cars modelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnusedReseacher Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 What does SCM Changes and Radar Alignment mean? If you read the first post you would have seen that I wrote a small description as to what the SCM and Radar changes were. ------------------------------------------------- On some other changes, as it was brought to my attention in another topic (Here), Manhunt had some crossover models and textures from the Grand Theft Auto series and one of those things was the Beta version of the Blista Compact, dont get me wrong TripleAs done a fantastic job making his Beta Blista C but since I actually have the original Beta Blista Compact I'm going to convert it and get it included in either Stage 1 or 2. Also I would like to thank Swoorup who is seeing if he can make an external loader to change the Hud Colours and change the Map Limits. On The Left is the Final VC Blista C - On The Right is the Manhunt/Beta VC model All that I have to do is split the model up, as all the doors, hood, etc is one big clump, and also reapply the textures. Edit: On The Left is the Manhunt/Beta VC model - On The Right is the Final VC Blista C Wow, thats probably the best reply I have ever got in my life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewportByChrysler Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 I can supply my beta carcols/timecyc, and if you guys want as an option in the mod, the GTAIII wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jago Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 I love the organization this mod and the clear goals set in the OP, looks like it's off to a good start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALMOST610 Posted September 22, 2012 Author Share Posted September 22, 2012 (edited) Firstly thanks to all for showing some interest, ok now here is another progress pic of the Beta BlistaC conversion. I have stripped all the Doors, Bumpers, Hood, Boot, Etc from the model as they were all one big clump, I then remapped the main Chassis part with the Carcols Skin so it can change colours in game, after that I have done the same to the Hood and Boot which have also been placed on proper working dummies, I might be able to take the front wings from Final BlistaC as they seem to look almost identical, overall this is a fairly easy project it is just a little time consuming to make sure all the panels match up nicely. [Click on Images to see a larger version] Edit: Shrunk Images - Click For Bigger Version Edited September 25, 2012 by ALMOST610 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headmetalbanger Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Looks good, great work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGodfather. Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Fabulous job ALMOST610 I think this one will be the only BETA mod which will survive.. BEST OF LUCK GUYS.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewportByChrysler Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Looking freakin' sweet, however- what do you mean by the front wing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALMOST610 Posted September 22, 2012 Author Share Posted September 22, 2012 (edited) Looking freakin' sweet, however- what do you mean by the front wing? If you compare the shot below to the one above you will notice the Front Wings (Those being the Side Panels between the Doors and Front of the Car) Also to answer your earlier question, we will be using the Actual Wheels from VC's Trailer 3, the files for it were left behind in the PS2 IMG for the Game and we have converted them. (There is a link in the first post for the Download) Perhaps we might use your carcols but we will worry about that for Stage 2. [Click on Images to see a larger version] Got a little more done. [Click on Images to see a larger version] Edit: Shrunk Images - Click For Bigger Version Edited September 25, 2012 by ALMOST610 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Analogue Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 I can supply my beta carcols/timecyc, and if you guys want as an option in the mod, the GTAIII wheels. To further clarify this, we are choosing to use the trailer 3 wheels because the goal of the mod isn't to completely remake any particular Vice City Beta, but to bring stuff from the beta to the game. I believe the GTA III wheels were nothing more than a placeholder until they were able to get around to working on the final ones. This is why in most beta screenshots, the III wheels were used because making new wheels was obviously not a high priority to the developers until a much later stage of development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewportByChrysler Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 I can supply my beta carcols/timecyc, and if you guys want as an option in the mod, the GTAIII wheels. To further clarify this, we are choosing to use the trailer 3 wheels because the goal of the mod isn't to completely remake any particular Vice City Beta, but to bring stuff from the beta to the game. I believe the GTA III wheels were nothing more than a placeholder until they were able to get around to working on the final ones. This is why in most beta screenshots, the III wheels were used because making new wheels was obviously not a high priority to the developers until a much later stage of development. Hmmm. Good point. The 3 wheels were indeed a placeholder until they decided to make actual wheels later on in the developement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALMOST610 Posted September 22, 2012 Author Share Posted September 22, 2012 (edited) Here it is all divided up and textured, I still have to get the damage model, but this the start of the end. [Click on Images to see a larger version] Edit: Shrunk Images - Click For Bigger Version Edited September 25, 2012 by ALMOST610 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewportByChrysler Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 The purple bumpers are the carcols, yes? Not the material? Other than that small concern, looks great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALMOST610 Posted September 22, 2012 Author Share Posted September 22, 2012 The purple bumpers are the carcols, yes? Not the material?Other than that small concern, looks great. Yes, Green is the Primary Carcols, Purple/Pink is the Secondary Carcols. I have also got it now running in game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewportByChrysler Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 The purple bumpers are the carcols, yes? Not the material?Other than that small concern, looks great. Yes, Green is the Primary Carcols, Purple/Pink is the Secondary Carcols. I have also got it now running in game. Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALMOST610 Posted September 23, 2012 Author Share Posted September 23, 2012 (edited) [Click on Images to see a larger version] It is all finished, does anyone want a Download link for it, or are you happy to wait until Stage 1 is released. Edit: Shrunk Images - Click For Bigger Version Edited September 25, 2012 by ALMOST610 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewportByChrysler Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I already snatched it up and installed it. It's perfect, as I said in the other topic. Now, how about the beta Sentinel, Glendale and finishing the beta Oceanic.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALMOST610 Posted September 23, 2012 Author Share Posted September 23, 2012 (edited) I already snatched it up and installed it. It's perfect, as I said in the other topic.Now, how about the beta Sentinel, Glendale and finishing the beta Oceanic.... This is my current list of future vehicle changes, as you would see in the original post they are not planned for the Stage 1 release, but definitely it should be done in the future, but I wont set a target for it. - (Police/Taxi) Need the same badge on the grill that the GTA 3 Police and Taxi have. - (Idaho) Modified front/rear and also same badge as the Beta Blistac/Regina, need badge on Front and Rear. - (Sentinel) Same front as Sent XS and also Modifed Rear Lights. - (Oceanic) Modified rear door line. Edit: - (Regina) Badge on Hood (Same Badge as boot has) Edited September 23, 2012 by ALMOST610 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Analogue Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 ALMOST and I have discovered something about the beta airport LOD textures. In Vice City's first trailer, you see two ghost towers instead of the usual 1 as shown here: Well, if you observe the LOD map, you can see under the current ghost tower a shape on the ground. If you look to the left you will see the same shape near the edge of the map shown here: *IGNORE THE GREEN CIRCLE* The two shapes I am referring to are circled RED. This leads us to believe that other shape is where that second ghost tower was. Our question is, what is your own judgement on the subject? Should a second tower be added there since the shapes are nearly the same? Personally, I think so! But we would also like to gather opinions . Thanks for the help! Derrick Keno 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewportByChrysler Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 (edited) I already snatched it up and installed it. It's perfect, as I said in the other topic.Now, how about the beta Sentinel, Glendale and finishing the beta Oceanic.... This is my current list of future vehicle changes, as you would see in the original post they are not planned for the Stage 1 release, but definitely it should be done in the future, but I wont set a target for it. - (Police/Taxi) Need the same badge on the grill that the GTA 3 Police and Taxi have. - (Idaho) Modified front/rear and also same badge as the Beta Blistac/Regina, need badge on Front and Rear. - (Sentinel) Same front as Sent XS and also Modifed Rear Lights. - (Oceanic) Modified rear door line. Edit: - (Regina) Badge on Hood (Same Badge as boot has) Sentinel has no bodykit as well. http://www.gouranga.com/images/gtavice/gi-vc-14.jpg http://www.gouranga.com/images/gtavice/vc-241.jpg Here's a Glendale rear shot: http://assets1.ignimgs.com/2004/08/19/gran...913077_640w.jpg And a vid with a good front shot: And a front shot of the beta Burrito(different grill tex/light textures, also-what's the mod's stance on the LC R29 plates?) http://www.gouranga.com/images/gtavice/vc-064.jpg EDIT:Crap, found a bug with the Blista-interior turns invisible through the windshield when the vehicle is in it's "almost LOD" phase. http://i48.tinypic.com/2eck75t.jpg Also-anybody else think the Spand is the beta Mule? Front fascia is what i'm talking about. Edited September 24, 2012 by NewportByChrysler Derrick Keno 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALMOST610 Posted September 25, 2012 Author Share Posted September 25, 2012 I thought it would be nice to clean up and try to get a perfect Beta Police Cruiser so I have done a little work to TripleAs' model. One of the below Images is my Better Beta Police, and the other is an actual beta image. Can you tell them apart without Cheating? (Hint, There is a little give away in the Image) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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