Is this Take 2 Future?

[Jai2NyceX_X]

I've never seen a day 1 digital release like that for both stores and online, is this the future? I hope so I'm tired of swapping discs for big titles. Please discuss...

It's nothing new and physical media will always be relevant. Personally I hate digital only games and even DLC for many reasons.

 

Note this is for consoles only.

 

I'd rather swap disks for games and have a physical copy than:

- Wait for ages for the game to download (Yes my internet it sh*t like most of the UK)

- Pay for a game that I'll never own - Can't trade in if sh*t, lend to family or friends and so on.

- No box - I love art and love artwork on game covers. The back of the box is a good read and the manual at times is great to read while on the bog. Plus Dat smell of new games.

- Paying more for a game - Due to there been no second hand sales. Buying a game pre owned for a cheaper price would not happen. Although I'm aware they have "sales".

- Retailers would loose there jobs - No retail games means there isn't any need for a retailer as much as there is now so jobs will be lost.

- Look at PSP Go and see how well that did.

- This gives more control to the devlopers - They can charge what they what for whatever they want and aint a darn thing you can do about it.

- No try before you buy - Can't test the game to see if you like it by renting.

- If your console brakes you'll have to download everything again. This would be a pain in the ass.

 

Just like Movies and music retail will not die out completely when it comes to games and it certainly will not be the way I game. Releasing both digital and retail copys is the way to go.

I agree with this idea like I agree with alot of his ideas

[MRPG500]

Yes that will come but only when consoles have a standar of minimun 1TB of HDD or even more, and when everyone have a fast internet connection, cuz for now i rather buy a disc based game than waiting hours for a game

[DeafMetal]

 

A Disc is more trustworthy than a digital download, and always will be no matter what year it is.

 

Anyway back on topic, i hope not.

 

Oh and downloading a game from steam or whatever digital way of a game is the lazy way of playing games, and nothing is better than buying the game from your local trustworthy game shop on the day of release, and opening the box only to smell the greatness of a  brand new game

Agreed very much. I love Steam, but I usually keep my favorite games on my ps3 as physical copy and save Steam/PSN for games I wouldn't mind losing too much.

[LotusRIP]

The only thing I like to buy online is music (apart from physical shipped goods from Ebay etc. ). And often on top of this, I buy the CD in stores as well, depending how much I like the band.

 

I can't see any reason to buy a game digitally. You don't get that excitement of finishing work/school and rushing to the shops. Finding a copy on the shelf in a nice shiny plastic cover, lining up at the counter, handing over REAL money to REAL people... some who will share their interest in the game you're buying and give some acknowledgement like "Hey this is a cool game! Good taste!". The internet doesn't communicate with you like this. Then there's the anticipation driving home and getting out the car, running through the door, straight to your games console. Ripping open that shiny glittering plastic and getting a whiff of that FRESH ELECTRONICS smell. Have a good sniff of the instruction booklet, a real life object, not a PDF file or whatever. Then you get to hold the shiny holy grail in your hands and put it in the machine to play.

 

Buying a game online would be a matter of.... sit on the couch eating chips... start download.... eat some more chips.... finish download.... awesome. Play the game in the exact position I was sitting in before my money was spent . On top of this, my existence in the real world went unnoticed.

[kudoboi]

 

Yes that will come but only when consoles have a standar of minimun 1TB of HDD or even more, and when everyone have a  fast internet connection, cuz for now i rather buy a disc based game than waiting hours for a game

1TB isnt even enough. i have so many steam games that my dedicated steam hard drive went from 1TB to 50GB

 

OT: take 2 already does it. almost every take 2 game is on steam

Edited September 21, 2012 by kudoboi

[LotusRIP]

 

Gee, wait like a c*nt in line until 12am to get a new game, or download it at home.

 

I think I'll take the latter.

i AGREE I THINK ITS STUPID!

Lazy + nerd = overweight

[Dragonjack]

I've never seen a day 1 digital release like that for both stores and online, is this the future? I hope so I'm tired of swapping discs for big titles. Please discuss...

It's nothing new and physical media will always be relevant. Personally I hate digital only games and even DLC for many reasons.

 

Note this is for consoles only.

 

I'd rather swap disks for games and have a physical copy than:

- Wait for ages for the game to download (Yes my internet it sh*t like most of the UK)

- Pay for a game that I'll never own - Can't trade in if sh*t, lend to family or friends and so on.

- No box - I love art and love artwork on game covers. The back of the box is a good read and the manual at times is great to read while on the bog. Plus Dat smell of new games.

- Paying more for a game - Due to there been no second hand sales. Buying a game pre owned for a cheaper price would not happen. Although I'm aware they have "sales".

- Retailers would loose there jobs - No retail games means there isn't any need for a retailer as much as there is now so jobs will be lost.

- Look at PSP Go and see how well that did.

- This gives more control to the devlopers - They can charge what they what for whatever they want and aint a darn thing you can do about it.

- No try before you buy - Can't test the game to see if you like it by renting.

- If your console brakes you'll have to download everything again. This would be a pain in the ass.

 

Just like Movies and music retail will not die out completely when it comes to games and it certainly will not be the way I game. Releasing both digital and retail copys is the way to go.

I agree with this actually, than any others posts in this very topic.

[TheShogunOfHarlem]

Wow I must be getting old... People bitching about having to go to a store to buy stuff is certainly the sign of the times. Extreme laziness is no longer a character flaw, It's a way of life. Digital (game or movie) downloads shouldn't be the future at all. I'm not saying that it shouldn't exist it should supplement physical (optical) media be it blu-ray or HVDs in the future. Personally I don't care for it since it reeks of the anti-consumer practices that a lot of gaming companies have been using.

 

wwinterj pretty much covered all the same issues I have with digital downloads, I'll just add that I really don't care for companies gathering info on what you buy so they can aggressively market their bs to you.

[Charlie Meadows]

 

Gee, wait like a c*nt in line until 12am to get a new game, or download it at home.

 

I think I'll take the latter.

But you can't make a youtube video insulting yourself at your computer for downloading a game at the midnight release, and how are you going to throw a digital download in the trash?

[Algonquin Assassin]

 

Gee, wait like a c*nt in line until 12am to get a new game, or download it at home.

 

I think I'll take the latter.

And wait 5 hours or so for the game to download then you STILL have to install it?

 

In the mean time the person who isn't a lazy c*nt could go the store, buy the game, come home, take out of the case, wait a few minutes for the install and do the first few missions while you're sitting twiddling your thumbs like a goose?

 

I hope hard copies aren't outlawed any time soon. I like having a physical copy of the game. Plus what happens if your 360 or PS3 sh*ts itself? You'll lose hundreds if not thousands of dollars.

 

I think it's good if the both co-exist, but I'll always prefer buying a physical copy over download. The only games I ever download are arcade games.

 

Plus another thing to consider is not everyone has an internet connection or a sufficient one atleast. I guarantee download only wouldn't make as much money as regular retail.

Edited September 22, 2012 by Miamivicecity

[motorider420]

I refuse to purchase anything that is over $10 and I cannot physically hold in my hand.

 

If Steam (or most other digital-download providers) wanted to, they could erase the files from your hard drive and tell you to screw off.

 

Don't believe me? Pull up your Steam ToS and read it.

 

I buy discs, or nothing.

[TheShogunOfHarlem]

I refuse to purchase anything that is over $10 and I cannot physically hold in my hand.

 

If Steam (or most other digital-download providers) wanted to, they could erase the files from your hard drive and tell you to screw off.

 

Don't believe me? Pull up your Steam ToS and read it.

 

I buy discs, or nothing.

Here's another concern with digital downloads. Call me naive but I would find it a bit hard to believe for a company to deliberately erase your game library. (grant it I wouldn't put it past them) But I imagine it would be tough for a consumer to prove to a customer service rep that your save files or you entire library was erased. Especially since customer service in the gaming industry is godawful.

[Shoumaker]

I refuse to purchase anything that is over $10 and I cannot physically hold in my hand.

 

If Steam (or most other digital-download providers) wanted to, they could erase the files from your hard drive and tell you to screw off.

 

Don't believe me? Pull up your Steam ToS and read it.

 

I buy discs, or nothing.

Haha, Im more of a disk person myself and always will be

[mkey82]

 

I refuse to purchase anything that is over $10 and I cannot physically hold in my hand.

 

If Steam (or most other digital-download providers) wanted to, they could erase the files from your hard drive and tell you to screw off.

 

Don't believe me?  Pull up your Steam ToS and read it.

 

I buy discs, or nothing.

Oh you

 

There is a thing called "backup," even if Steam flips out and decides to cause DAMAGE to their CUSTOMERS they can't touch the stuff you have backed up.

 

http://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/

 

C. Termination by Valve.

 

Valve may cancel your Account or any particular Subscription(s) at any time. In the event that your Account or a particular Subscription is terminated or cancelled by Valve for a violation of this Agreement or improper or illegal activity, no refund, including of any Subscription fees, will be granted.

 

YOU AND VALVE AGREE TO RESOLVE ALL DISPUTES AND CLAIMS BETWEEN US IN INDIVIDUAL BINDING ARBITRATION. THAT INCLUDES, BUT IS NOT LIMITED TO, ANY CLAIMS ARISING OUT OF OR RELATING TO: (i) ANY ASPECT OF THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN US; (ii) THIS AGREEMENT; OR (iii) YOUR USE OF STEAM, YOUR ACCOUNT OR THE SOFTWARE. IT APPLIES REGARDLESS OF WHETHER SUCH CLAIMS ARE BASED IN CONTRACT, TORT, STATUTE, FRAUD, UNFAIR COMPETITION, MISREPRESENTATION OR ANY OTHER LEGAL THEORY.

 

However, this Section does not apply to the following types of claims or disputes, which you or Valve may bring in any court with jurisdiction: (i) claims of infringement or other misuse of intellectual property rights, including such claims seeking injunctive relief; and (ii) claims related to or arising from any alleged unauthorized use, piracy or theft.

 

This Section does not prevent you from bringing your dispute to the attention of any federal, state, or local government agencies that can, if the law allows, seek relief from us for you.

Where is it stated Valve retains rights over arbitrary deletion of files from your HDD?

 

To all the others - distribution costs in DD are so low compared to retail that you simply have to accept more and more publishers will migrate toward digital distribution. Dinosaurs like EA can fight it, but they're losing already.

Edited September 22, 2012 by mkey82

[BrunoLK]

I refuse to purchase anything that is over $10 and I cannot physically hold in my hand.

 

If Steam (or most other digital-download providers) wanted to, they could erase the files from your hard drive and tell you to screw off.

 

Don't believe me? Pull up your Steam ToS and read it.

 

I buy discs, or nothing.

There is a much larger probability of you losing or scratching your game disc than Steam doing anything like that for the next 10 years.

[Gtaghost22]

 

Pfff, I guess you never heard of Steam. Yes digital releases are future.

In the far future? Maybe.

But Next-gen? No.

Sony already confirmed the PS4 won't be download-only...

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-05-...t-speeds-report

http://www.dailytech.com/Sony+Nixes+Digita...rticle24822.htm

http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2012/06/sony-con...nternet-speeds/

http://psnprofiles.com/forums/topic/2902-p...-download-only/

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/PlayStation-Co...,news-7872.html

http://www.psxextreme.com/ps4-news/33.html

 

Sony has decided to stick with the optical disk drive option instead of a download-only plan for its next PlayStation console

While many forms of entertainment, such as music and movies, are heading toward a digital-only format, Sony declined a download-only setup for its upcoming successor to the PlayStation 3.

According to The Wall Street Journal , Sony has decided to stick with the optical disk drive option instead of a download-only plan for its next PlayStation console . This is a somewhat surprising move, considering the lucrative business that all-digital gaming platforms like Apple and Google's mobile operating systems employ via applications, but Sony has its reasons for continuing to offer the optical disc drive: Internet connectivity.

According to Sony, it's choosing to keep the optical disc drive because not everyone has an internet connection at home. Even if there is an internet connection , this can sometimesbe unreliable and affect the gaming experience.

Sony isn't alone with this logic. Microsoft is holding onto its optical disc drive in the upcoming successor to the Xbox 360 for the same reason.

In addition to internet-related concerns, console makers are sticking with optical disc drives because only a select few companies, such as Apple and Google, have been successful with the download-only setup. Apple's App Store and Google's Google Play (which merged the Android Market and Google Music back in March) allow mobile gamers to download applications to their devices for a fee.

Edited September 22, 2012 by Gtaghost22

[EverBlazin]

Theres about 3 games I want, after that I'm done with games. Digital distribution can eat a dick.

[RandomNoun]

 

Theres about 3 games I want, after that I'm done with games. Digital distribution can eat a dick.

I've been thinking the same thing recently ...

[lloydo]

I don't see why there can't be both options, even if the future is in favour of everything being digital and done online.

 

There are pros and cons for both options, at the end of the day i'd still prefer a hard copy.

[TheShogunOfHarlem]

To all the others - distribution costs in DD are so low compared to retail that you simply have to accept more and more publishers will migrate toward digital distribution. Dinosaurs like EA can fight it, but they're losing already.

If I have to be forced into something as a customer that to me does have any substantive benefits other than allowing me to be a lazy ass then it's hardly the leap forward that optical discs were. (from cartridges) Thus, it really shouldn't become the standard for gaming media. At best, it should be supplemental since not everybody on Earth is connected or has a fast enough connection for it be a convenience. It may be cheaper as far as distribution but it would be a significant risk. The Gaming industry would risk losing those without internet connections and would alienate those that really don't care for at all (mind you this is a polarizing issue) and see it as an anti-consumer tactic. The industry is hurting now which is why we haven't seen any next gen consoles being released as regularly as they used to. If they took the radical step of DD with the next gen, the industry could possibly die.

 

What the CEOs don't seem to understand is that piracy, retail manufacturing/distribution or used gaming market isn't killing the gaming industry it's their own shortsightedness that is. A 5-8 hour campaign or any other substandard product isn't really worth $60. Why would a consumer bother buying a game that they will only play for a day or two and never play again when they could get it used for a fraction of the cost or just pirate it for free? Make a product worth $60 or more any people will buy it.

 

You must be misinformed if you think EA is fighting DD, they're not. If anything they are pushing harder than any other company by starting up their own service, namely Origin. That's as far as consoles go. There is a recent article that EA President Frank Gibeau wants all future EA games to be DD only fairly soon. They are obviously wanting toMakes it easier for me to not buy their games. They are obviously trying to force Origin on their customers which is very much in line with EA anti consumer practices. (Like forcing MP into all of their games)