SkyReaper2014 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 So i installed gta4 a few days ago and noticed it didnt install with xlive but it still asks for it.Im currently using xliveless but id like to play MP so any idea why it wouldnt?Or where i could get xlive? NO,it is not a pirated version,i bought it from walmart. - Windows 7 64 bit -Retail -Game wont start without xlive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prometheus Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 XLiveless disables online play, if you have a back up, just replace it. If you don't, then reinstall the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyReaper2014 Posted September 20, 2012 Author Share Posted September 20, 2012 No,my gta4 doesnt install xlive,even on fresh install its missing xlive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monster875. Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 (edited) IV doesn't use xliveless from start. xliveless is a mod for IV EDIT: only illegal copies needs xliveless to start up. so either u don't really start up IV correctly, or else u got fooled Edited September 20, 2012 by monster875. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyReaper2014 Posted September 20, 2012 Author Share Posted September 20, 2012 Doesnt anyone listen? I bought it at walmart My gta4 doesnt install with xlive,im not talking about xliveless just regular xlive If i run gta4.exe i get xlive.dll is missing error If i run Launchgta4.exe i get Securom failed to launch application i dont pirate games,people sometimes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radioman Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 EDIT: only illegal copies needs xliveless to start up That part is false, as Xliveless is a MOD that disables Live and online play ONLY...It IS required in order to use downloaded saves(for Save and Play and the Chain Game, etc.) For example, I have BOTH the LEGAL Retail(DVD) copy-bought from Wal-Mart #1362 AND the Steam version games and Xliveless is the ONLY way I am able to save the game, as Live WILL NOT work-everytime it just comes up with the "Update required.." message...I go through the update process like 5+ times and still have the same problem..So, you mind explaining you "logic" about how it is only for illegal games? Curious @OP Please Post PC specs AND elaborate in a little more details exactly what is going on.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monster875. Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 EDIT: only illegal copies needs xliveless to start up That part is false, as Xliveless is a MOD that disables Live and online play ONLY...It IS required in order to use downloaded saves(for Save and Play and the Chain Game, etc.) For example, I have BOTH the LEGAL Retail(DVD) copy-bought from Wal-Mart #1362 AND the Steam version games and Xliveless is the ONLY way I am able to save the game, as Live WILL NOT work-everytime it just comes up with the "Update required.." message...I go through the update process like 5+ times and still have the same problem..So, you mind explaining you "logic" about how it is only for illegal games? Curious well, illegal games have to turn off gfwl, so there they need xliveless, so yes, ONLY ILLEGAL COPIES NEEDS IT TO RUN. get those facts right dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkey82 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 well, illegal games have to turn off gfwl, so there they need xliveless, so yes, ONLY ILLEGAL COPIES NEEDS IT TO RUN. get those facts right dude. AFAIK you can run GFWL with the offline profile so you don't need to activate the game with it to play in SP. Again, AFAIK. FI_pr0t0typ3, make sure to install these GFWL update Patch 7 Do remember to always start the game with the launcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radioman Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 so yes, ONLY ILLEGAL COPIES NEEDS IT TO RUN. get those facts right dude. If that is true, than why would a moderator tell me to use it? lol Here is what a Moderator said: But in order to load saves from the Chain Game or any other downloaded save, you'll need Xliveless. Also, As seen here in the Modding Forums, it is a Mod to disable Live(which can be a pain in and of itself)...If it was for illegal copies only, the topic I linked to would have been locked as well as a Moderator would not have mentioned using it(as per Forum rules on Warez)...Just a heads up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyReaper2014 Posted September 20, 2012 Author Share Posted September 20, 2012 GTA4 runs fine but i have to disable online to play it because my gta4 is NOT installing xlive,xlive NOT xliveless as ive said twice i believe.Im trying to figure out why my gta4 disc is not installing the xlive that it says it needs.Im using win7 64 bit,3gb ram and some amd athlon card.GTA does lag a lil but runs mostly lag free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radioman Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 xlive NOT xliveless as ive said twice i believe It's Games For Windows Live(or simply Live)-NOT Xlive...Xlive is short for Xliveless(a mod that disables Live and online stuff)... So, if I get what you mean, you are saying you cannot install GFWL(Games For Windows Live)? Which is impossible, as it, along with Social Club automatically gets installed during the game install process first... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyReaper2014 Posted September 20, 2012 Author Share Posted September 20, 2012 Ok when i install gta4,fresh,no mods or patches,or ANYTHING,I double click gta4.exe and it says im missing xlive.dll,i guess i could reinstall again but it hasnt fixed it so far so idk.If i run launchgta4.exe i get a securom launch error for sum odd reason... im starting to think something is wrong with the disc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkey82 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Is this post invisible? I can see it, but maybe there's a forum glitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyReaper2014 Posted September 20, 2012 Author Share Posted September 20, 2012 Yes i see it,im no getting patch 7 cause i lose 5-10 fps when i install it as for gfwl... By launcher do you mean social club or launchgta4.exe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkey82 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 If you don't install patch 7 you can't access multiplayer hence there's no need to install GFLW, use xliveless instead. The game launcher is the file LaunchGTAIV.exe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyReaper2014 Posted September 20, 2012 Author Share Posted September 20, 2012 I guess i could get patch 7 and just use a commandline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monster875. Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 so yes, ONLY ILLEGAL COPIES NEEDS IT TO RUN. get those facts right dude. If that is true, than why would a moderator tell me to use it? lol Here is what a Moderator said: But in order to load saves from the Chain Game or any other downloaded save, you'll need Xliveless. Also, As seen here in the Modding Forums, it is a Mod to disable Live(which can be a pain in and of itself)...If it was for illegal copies only, the topic I linked to would have been locked as well as a Moderator would not have mentioned using it(as per Forum rules on Warez)...Just a heads up. oh my god, u clearly don't understand. if an illegal copy doesn't have it, u can't save nor load because gfwl isn't disabled. u now understand?! illegal copies needs it to run, as i said, i didn't say it was only for illegal copies. next time, read and understand. and FYI, i know wtf xliveless does and doesn't, i'm not new to this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkey82 Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 if an illegal copy doesn't have it, u can't save nor load because gfwl isn't disabled. u now understand?! illegal copies needs it to run, as i said, i didn't say it was only for illegal copies. Mate, you can create an offline profile prior to activating the game with GFWL. At least you could with the old GFWL version, first time I installed the game, I distinctly remember that I activated the game only with securom and then created an offline profile for saving the game. xliveless wasn't in the picture back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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