RyanBurnsRed Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I'm 100 hours in and still can't kill any dragon I find (playing on Hard). Is that supposed to be a thing or do I just suck balls? I was able to kill the lightning dragon at the Storm Coast in my first 40 hours. Took me about 3 tries but it was great. Make sure to upgrade your health potions if you haven't already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatD4VIS-360 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Yeah I can't take my play time seriously. Might've left the game on a couple of times. In level 16 with over 100 hours gameplay. I seriously love this game though. Can't get enough. Especially crafting items. What sucks is when I fall in love with a weapon and I feel obligated to move on because something is more powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnceAgainYoungFitzpatrick Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Skyrim features 244 quests and over 300 points of interest. Does Inquisition have more or less? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nath22 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Skyrim features 244 quests and over 300 points of interest. Does Inquisition have more or less? If you know that about Skyrim surely you can google this too? Inquisition will take around 100 hours if you play through everything at a slow pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dildo Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Skyrim features 244 quests and over 300 points of interest. Does Inquisition have more or less? why does it matter? Skyrim could have 1,000 quests and 5,000 points of interest. it would still be boring, empty, sh*tty combat Skyrim. that game was only playable thanks to the modding community. vanilla Dragon Age is way more enjoyable than vanilla Skyrim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnceAgainYoungFitzpatrick Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Skyrim features 244 quests and over 300 points of interest. Does Inquisition have more or less? why does it matter? Skyrim could have 1,000 quests and 5,000 points of interest. it would still be boring, empty, sh*tty combat Skyrim. that game was only playable thanks to the modding community. vanilla Dragon Age is way more enjoyable than vanilla Skyrim. Why does everyone have to be a dick about it? I just answered a simple question? It's not like I said if Inquisiton doesn't have as many quests as Skyrim, I'm not going to purchase it. I was just curious. Jesus Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booze Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I don't know the exact number, but I think Dragon Age has a bit more. There's no doubt that the vast majority are filler/fetch quests though. And yeah, people tend to get passionate about things they like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dildo Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I just hate comparisons to Skyrim. from any RPG. it's not the freakin' gold standard. Skyrim is vastly overrated. it's a great concept with poor mechanics. the facade is beautiful, the interior leaves much to be desired. and it seems like a really silly question to ask exactly how many quests there are in DA versus Skyrim. length does not equal quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feckyerlife Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I'm 100 hours in and still can't kill any dragon I find (playing on Hard). Is that supposed to be a thing or do I just suck balls? im 70hrs in, playing on normal and have only been able to beat one dragon. the dragon in crestwood is the one they want you to fight first it seems like Skyrim features 244 quests and over 300 points of interest. Does Inquisition have more or less? why does it matter? Skyrim could have 1,000 quests and 5,000 points of interest. it would still be boring, empty, sh*tty combat Skyrim. that game was only playable thanks to the modding community. vanilla Dragon Age is way more enjoyable than vanilla Skyrim. Why does everyone have to be a dick about it? I just answered a simple question? It's not like I said if Inquisiton doesn't have as many quests as Skyrim, I'm not going to purchase it. I was just curious. Jesus Christ. Theres a lot more. Cause there is a lot of filler quests, main story wise and inner circle quest (which i would compare to like DB or Thieves Guild quest) are about the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majestic81 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I like how Skyrim is about 4 years old now and its still being compared to those newly released games. for good reasons. im waiting for TES VI to come and be the king again. Moonshield 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feckyerlife Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I like how Skyrim is about 4 years old now and its still being compared to those newly released games. for good reasons. im waiting for TES VI to come and be the king again. because no other rpg has been released since then lol. well no other good one at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nath22 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I'm 100 hours in and still can't kill any dragon I find (playing on Hard). Is that supposed to be a thing or do I just suck balls? im 70hrs in, playing on normal and have only been able to beat one dragon. the dragon in crestwood is the one they want you to fight first it seems like The one in the Hinterlands is the lowest level, I think. I couldn't kill any myself until I was level 15. And then even at level 22-23 some of them still took a few tries. There wasn't any stand out dragon which was kind of disappointing. The one in the Hissing Wastes and the last one in Emprise Du Lion were the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dildo Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I like how Skyrim is about 4 years old now and its still being compared to those newly released games. for good reasons. im waiting for TES VI to come and be the king again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booze Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Indeed, I'm biting my tongue so hard right now it's nearly off Going back to the original question, I think it was kind of innocent. There's nothing wrong with being curious about the amount of quests. I've been wondering the same thing myself, actually. And yeah, I agree with quality over quantity, that's why I enjoyed Oblivion more than Skyrim and Fallout 3 more than New Vegas. With the latest ones I just ended up with a gigantic "to do" list (aka the active quest list), with no idea what any of them were about. Much like with this game, actually. It's a good thing I'm starting to enjoy the combat more, now I'm finding abilities that synergize well. El Dildo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feckyerlife Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 (edited) Indeed, I'm biting my tongue so hard right now it's nearly off Going back to the original question, I think it was kind of innocent. There's nothing wrong with being curious about the amount of quests. I've been wondering the same thing myself, actually. And yeah, I agree with quality over quantity, that's why I enjoyed Oblivion more than Skyrim and Fallout 3 more than New Vegas. With the latest ones I just ended up with a gigantic "to do" list (aka the active quest list), with no idea what any of them were about. Much like with this game, actually. It's a good thing I'm starting to enjoy the combat more, now I'm finding abilities that synergize well. for me the story is to big in DAI, skyrims story is way easier to keep up with. But then i am a weekend gamer, so it might not be too big of a story for any everyday player. But much off the filler quest in DAI are 10x easier than the ones in Skyrim, so it dosnt bother me that there are so many. Edited January 23, 2015 by feckyerlife Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireBallz21 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Sorry to interrupt any conversations here but I'm new to this franchise and I'm f*cking confused as to the lore of this game is about, even more than LotR. If anyone knows this game's lore please help me because there's a lot of questions I have: 1. Where did the darkspawn come from? 2. What is the Golden City exactly?3. Why and for what purpose did the Tevinter Mages invade the Fade? 4. How did they manage to physically invade the Fade? 5. The wiki says the mages were possibly corrupted by Dumat (an Old God) to invade the Fade for him to be turned into an archdemon, does that mean that Dumat's evil? 6. Why did Dumat want to be freed and turned into an archdemon, is he evil? 7. Are the Old Gods evil and if so were they always evil or did they turn evil by any means?8. What does the Maker do, is he a god, did he create the Old Gods and is he real? 9. Was Dumat being controlled or impersonated by anyone or something if so how? 10. When in Dragon Age: Origins the narrator says that the mages destroyed heaven, does it literally mean that they destroyed heaven and is heaven the Fade if so was heaven not as horrible as it looks before or is the Golden City? 11. Why did Dumat or anyone impersonating or controlling him want the humans to usurp the Golden City? 12. Finally, why did the Golden City turn Black? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dildo Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 seriously? just enjoy the game. literally all of those questions are irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireBallz21 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 (edited) seriously? just enjoy the game. literally all of those questions are irrelevant. I'm just curious on what the story is. I'm trying to "just play the game" but it's kind of hard when you hear things like: "A did B to kill C the son of D in the lands of ABB blessed by the CBC betrayed in the old 786 BCS's. A killed Z because he had destroyed the GH in order to overtake YU. P killed F to save T the empress of TYGH an experienced priest of the YCHTY served the THGY in the early years until the THG came and the DRKS destroyed OGJ and the TBM opened allowing the DRKS to overtake KIWL due to Q which is an CBCT betrayer of the CBC and the creator of the QWBJ. Now choose which one to kill and to make emperor of the world deciding the rest of the story", needing to make a decision not knowing wtf I just heard. Edited January 30, 2015 by FireBallz21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feckyerlife Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 seriously? just enjoy the game. literally all of those questions are irrelevant. I'm just curious on what the story is. I'm trying to "just play the game" but it's kind of hard when you hear things like: "A did B to kill C the son of D in the lands of ABB blessed by the CBC betrayed in the old 786 BCS's. A killed Z because he had destroyed the GH in order to overtake YU. P killed F to save T the empress of TYGH an experienced priest of the YCHTY served the THGY in the early years until the THG came and the DRKS destroyed OGJ and the TBM opened allowing the DRKS to overtake KIWL due to Q which is an CBCT betrayer of the CBC and the creator of the QWBJ. Now choose which one to kill and to make emperor of the world deciding the rest of the story", needing to make a decision not knowing wtf I just heard. http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon_Age_Wiki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireBallz21 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 (edited) seriously? just enjoy the game. literally all of those questions are irrelevant. I'm just curious on what the story is. I'm trying to "just play the game" but it's kind of hard when you hear things like: "A did B to kill C the son of D in the lands of ABB blessed by the CBC betrayed in the old 786 BCS's. A killed Z because he had destroyed the GH in order to overtake YU. P killed F to save T the empress of TYGH an experienced priest of the YCHTY served the THGY in the early years until the THG came and the DRKS destroyed OGJ and the TBM opened allowing the DRKS to overtake KIWL due to Q which is an CBCT betrayer of the CBC and the creator of the QWBJ. Now choose which one to kill and to make emperor of the world deciding the rest of the story", needing to make a decision not knowing wtf I just heard. http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon_Age_Wiki You seriously think that I haven't been there, I mentioned it before. It answers nothing but what I already know. The questions I've asked are those of what I don't find an answer for, otherwise I wouldn't even post them here. Edited January 30, 2015 by FireBallz21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nath22 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 (edited) I got through it applying the Mass Effect world to it all since Bioware games are essentially the same.Darkspawn/Demon - Reaper, Corypheus - Harbinger etc. Really though you just have to read about anything you don't understand. I had to read a lot on past games and references to the lore in general because this game always talks about the past. And sometimes you still won't get answers because the games story/lore isn't bulletproof. That wiki does a terrible job of explaining everything. I found talking to Solus to be more helpful than anything Edited January 30, 2015 by nath22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadeBrazen Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Sorry to interrupt any conversations here but I'm new to this franchise and I'm f*cking confused as to the lore of this game is about, even more than LotR. If anyone knows this game's lore please help me because there's a lot of questions I have: 1. Where did the darkspawn come from? 2. What is the Golden City exactly? 3. Why and for what purpose did the Tevinter Mages invade the Fade? 4. How did they manage to physically invade the Fade? 5. The wiki says the mages were possibly corrupted by Dumat (an Old God) to invade the Fade for him to be turned into an archdemon, does that mean that Dumat's evil? 6. Why did Dumat want to be freed and turned into an archdemon, is he evil? 7. Are the Old Gods evil and if so were they always evil or did they turn evil by any means? 8. What does the Maker do, is he a god, did he create the Old Gods and is he real? 9. Was Dumat being controlled or impersonated by anyone or something if so how? 10. When in Dragon Age: Origins the narrator says that the mages destroyed heaven, does it literally mean that they destroyed heaven and is heaven the Fade if so was heaven not as horrible as it looks before or is the Golden City? 11. Why did Dumat or anyone impersonating or controlling him want the humans to usurp the Golden City? 12. Finally, why did the Golden City turn Black? My friend, within the world lie the answers you seek. It is just that you must forge ahead for now without the answers, and upon your way you perhaps will find the knowledge you seek... or something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireBallz21 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Sorry to interrupt any conversations here but I'm new to this franchise and I'm f*cking confused as to the lore of this game is about, even more than LotR. If anyone knows this game's lore please help me because there's a lot of questions I have: 1. Where did the darkspawn come from? 2. What is the Golden City exactly? 3. Why and for what purpose did the Tevinter Mages invade the Fade? 4. How did they manage to physically invade the Fade? 5. The wiki says the mages were possibly corrupted by Dumat (an Old God) to invade the Fade for him to be turned into an archdemon, does that mean that Dumat's evil? 6. Why did Dumat want to be freed and turned into an archdemon, is he evil? 7. Are the Old Gods evil and if so were they always evil or did they turn evil by any means? 8. What does the Maker do, is he a god, did he create the Old Gods and is he real? 9. Was Dumat being controlled or impersonated by anyone or something if so how? 10. When in Dragon Age: Origins the narrator says that the mages destroyed heaven, does it literally mean that they destroyed heaven and is heaven the Fade if so was heaven not as horrible as it looks before or is the Golden City? 11. Why did Dumat or anyone impersonating or controlling him want the humans to usurp the Golden City? 12. Finally, why did the Golden City turn Black? My friend, within the world lie the answers you seek. It is just that you must forge ahead for now without the answers, and upon your way you perhaps will find the knowledge you seek... or something else. You mean to tell me that there's no answers until DA4 comes out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feckyerlife Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 i believe what he means is, all the codex's you unlock will explain the back story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireBallz21 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Again, those are just the question which neither the codex's or the wiki can answer me. I've understood most through the page of the wiki on the Maker but how the story unravels in DA:O and DA2 is still confusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feckyerlife Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Again, those are just the question which neither the codex's or the wiki can answer me. I've understood most through the page of the wiki on the Maker but how the story unravels in DA:O and DA2 is still confusing. trust me i know, i never played the first 2 either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA_fear Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 seriously? just enjoy the game. literally all of those questions are irrelevant. wuuuuut, no. I'd say they're pretty relevant. And how can you even enjoy the game if you don't know at least some of the culture? Anyway, I'll try to answer, but the last time I played Origins was a long time ago, so yeah... Sorry to interrupt any conversations here but I'm new to this franchise and I'm f*cking confused as to the lore of this game is about, even more than LotR. If anyone knows this game's lore please help me because there's a lot of questions I have: 1. Where did the darkspawn come from? 2. What is the Golden City exactly? 3. Why and for what purpose did the Tevinter Mages invade the Fade? 4. How did they manage to physically invade the Fade? 5. The wiki says the mages were possibly corrupted by Dumat (an Old God) to invade the Fade for him to be turned into an archdemon, does that mean that Dumat's evil? 6. Why did Dumat want to be freed and turned into an archdemon, is he evil? 7. Are the Old Gods evil and if so were they always evil or did they turn evil by any means? 8. What does the Maker do, is he a god, did he create the Old Gods and is he real? 9. Was Dumat being controlled or impersonated by anyone or something if so how? 10. When in Dragon Age: Origins the narrator says that the mages destroyed heaven, does it literally mean that they destroyed heaven and is heaven the Fade if so was heaven not as horrible as it looks before or is the Golden City? 11. Why did Dumat or anyone impersonating or controlling him want the humans to usurp the Golden City? 12. Finally, why did the Golden City turn Black? 1. When the Tevinter Magi entered the Golden City, they tainted it with their presence or something like that, causing it to turn black. They were then cast out and brought back to Earth, but were corrupted and became the first of the darkspawn. I guess they then went underground or something, and started multiplying. This is explained literally in the first minute of Origins, lol. Look up the intro to the game, I think you'll find it. 2. The Golden City was home to the Maker, if I'm not mistaken. Not sure if it still is, since it was tainted, but where would the Maker go then, lol? 3. I don't know. They were greedy and basically wanted to be gods themselves? 4. I don't know if they invaded the Fade, I think you meant the Golden City. Not sure about that. :S 5. I'm not sure, I think they were corrupted (cursed) by the Maker Himself, not Dumat. And Dumat's definitely evil, if I recall correctly. He's one of the Old Gods. 6. [MILD SPOILER] I'm not sure about this either, but I don't know if the Old Gods actually want to be awoken and freed, it's just that the darkspawn search for these Old Gods, awake them and, thus, start a Blight. I think there are seven of these Old Gods, 3 or 4 have been slain, which means there should be 3 or 4 more Blights in the Dragon Age universe, lol. 7. Hmm, don't know. I think they were once worshipped by everyone, but then abandoned their believers or vice versa or something like, I'm really not too sure about this one. 8. He's God, yes. You've probably noticed that this religion resembles Christianity a lot, so yeah, it's basically the Christian God in the Dragon Age world, at least that's how I see it. Whether He's real or not... Well, I suppose that's up to you to decide, lol, just like in real life. I'd say He is. 9. Don't know, I don't think so. 10. No, they tainted and blackened it. I can't remember right now what the Fade actually is, but it's not heaven. I think it's all the demons' and spirits' interpretation of the real, physical world. They try to copy it. 11. Again, I don't think he did, it's the humans themselves who wanted to do it. 12. Go back to no. 1. Just don't take this as 100% correct answers, because they're all purely from my memory. The problem is that the Dragon Age world's culture is so fu**ing huge it probably takes at least 2 or 3 playthroughs to even start memorizing all the stories and explanations, lol. I found the history and all pretty interesting, especially when you start putting all the little pieces together and things start making sense. But there just so many texts and codexes to read, it can get tedious sometimes. But all in all, I think it's awesome and reckon that Bioware did a great job with the history and culture in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dildo Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 (edited) And how can you even enjoy the game if you don't know at least some of the culture? easy. I don't know the answer to a single one of those questions. I'm already on my 2nd playthrough, enjoying the f*ck out of this game, skipping most conversations and boring cutscenes. you don't need to know dumb lore to enjoy the game. ok that sounds harsh. basically I'm speaking for myself. lore doesn't interest me and it's still easy to love the game. Edited January 30, 2015 by El Diablo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireBallz21 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 seriously? just enjoy the game. literally all of those questions are irrelevant. wuuuuut, no. I'd say they're pretty relevant. And how can you even enjoy the game if you don't know at least some of the culture? Anyway, I'll try to answer, but the last time I played Origins was a long time ago, so yeah... Sorry to interrupt any conversations here but I'm new to this franchise and I'm f*cking confused as to the lore of this game is about, even more than LotR. If anyone knows this game's lore please help me because there's a lot of questions I have: 1. Where did the darkspawn come from? 2. What is the Golden City exactly? 3. Why and for what purpose did the Tevinter Mages invade the Fade? 4. How did they manage to physically invade the Fade? 5. The wiki says the mages were possibly corrupted by Dumat (an Old God) to invade the Fade for him to be turned into an archdemon, does that mean that Dumat's evil? 6. Why did Dumat want to be freed and turned into an archdemon, is he evil? 7. Are the Old Gods evil and if so were they always evil or did they turn evil by any means? 8. What does the Maker do, is he a god, did he create the Old Gods and is he real? 9. Was Dumat being controlled or impersonated by anyone or something if so how? 10. When in Dragon Age: Origins the narrator says that the mages destroyed heaven, does it literally mean that they destroyed heaven and is heaven the Fade if so was heaven not as horrible as it looks before or is the Golden City? 11. Why did Dumat or anyone impersonating or controlling him want the humans to usurp the Golden City? 12. Finally, why did the Golden City turn Black? 1. When the Tevinter Magi entered the Golden City, they tainted it with their presence or something like that, causing it to turn black. They were then cast out and brought back to Earth, but were corrupted and became the first of the darkspawn. I guess they then went underground or something, and started multiplying. This is explained literally in the first minute of Origins, lol. Look up the intro to the game, I think you'll find it. 2. The Golden City was home to the Maker, if I'm not mistaken. Not sure if it still is, since it was tainted, but where would the Maker go then, lol? 3. I don't know. They were greedy and basically wanted to be gods themselves? 4. I don't know if they invaded the Fade, I think you meant the Golden City. Not sure about that. :S 5. I'm not sure, I think they were corrupted (cursed) by the Maker Himself, not Dumat. And Dumat's definitely evil, if I recall correctly. He's one of the Old Gods. 6. [MILD SPOILER] I'm not sure about this either, but I don't know if the Old Gods actually want to be awoken and freed, it's just that the darkspawn search for these Old Gods, awake them and, thus, start a Blight. I think there are seven of these Old Gods, 3 or 4 have been slain, which means there should be 3 or 4 more Blights in the Dragon Age universe, lol. 7. Hmm, don't know. I think they were once worshipped by everyone, but then abandoned their believers or vice versa or something like, I'm really not too sure about this one. 8. He's God, yes. You've probably noticed that this religion resembles Christianity a lot, so yeah, it's basically the Christian God in the Dragon Age world, at least that's how I see it. Whether He's real or not... Well, I suppose that's up to you to decide, lol, just like in real life. I'd say He is. 9. Don't know, I don't think so. 10. No, they tainted and blackened it. I can't remember right now what the Fade actually is, but it's not heaven. I think it's all the demons' and spirits' interpretation of the real, physical world. They try to copy it. 11. Again, I don't think he did, it's the humans themselves who wanted to do it. 12. Go back to no. 1. Just don't take this as 100% correct answers, because they're all purely from my memory. The problem is that the Dragon Age world's culture is so fu**ing huge it probably takes at least 2 or 3 playthroughs to even start memorizing all the stories and explanations, lol. I found the history and all pretty interesting, especially when you start putting all the little pieces together and things start making sense. But there just so many texts and codexes to read, it can get tedious sometimes. But all in all, I think it's awesome and reckon that Bioware did a great job with the history and culture in the game. Well thank you for now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA_fear Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 And how can you even enjoy the game if you don't know at least some of the culture? easy. I don't know the answer to a single one of those questions. I'm already on my 2nd playthrough, enjoying the f*ck out of this game, skipping most conversations and boring cutscenes. you don't need to know dumb lore to enjoy the game. ok that sounds harsh. basically I'm speaking for myself. lore doesn't interest me and it's still easy to love the game. It doesn't sound harsh, but duuude, it's like skipping cutscenes in GTA, maybe even worse, since this is an RPG. And, again, since it's an RPG, you're supposed to know a bit more about the story, the history behind things and the culture. But then again... "Supposed to", says who, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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