Two States?

[Choco Taco]

How would the map be set up if Mexico is in the game? Islands? What are the boundaries? Landlock? Mexican military no fly zone? Would LA or Mexico be bigger?

[BillPatt]

LOL at states!

You're an idiot.

Thanks I needed that

[Australia]

LOL at states!

You're an idiot.

Thanks I needed that

You're welcome.

[Fisciletti]

Nah, I don't think so. Just a big and detailed one and it's okay for me.

[Algonquin Assassin]

While I suggested this idea before, I doubt it will happen as they've already done this in RDR. People would criticize them for lack of ideas. But there will undoubtedly be a lot of Mexicans the more South you go...

Why? Modern day Mexico is a lot different than it was back in the early 1900s. How many sandbox games can you name set in modern Mexico?

 

Anyway I doubt it, but I bet there'll be heaps of references to the border wars and whatnot.

[John The Grudge]

Honestly I think Mexican gangs are too violent to feature in a GTA game. Would there be side missions where you chainsaw people's heads off, or maybe one where you charge innocent people to take them across the border but instead just murder them and dump their mutilated corpses on the side of the road? I think it would ruin the tone of the game. Plus it's just a horrible idea.

 

Also, let's not forget - let's NOT forget - Dude, that keeping wildlife, an amphibious rodent, for uh, domestic, you know, within the city - that aint legal either.

 

[aj10101]

 

How would the map be set up if Mexico is in the game?  Islands?  What are the boundaries?  Landlock?  Mexican military no fly zone?  Would LA or Mexico be bigger?

In my opinion only one city in mexico would be neated, and one border crossing. You should be able to drive across the border or fly on a commuter flight form airport to airport. If you tried to fly yourself you should be intercepted by an airforce.

 

With all of the military installations in and around san diego and the mexican border being so close it really seems like a prime city for GTA V

[aj10101]

Honestly I think Mexican gangs are too violent to feature in a GTA game. Would there be side missions where you chainsaw people's heads off, or maybe one where you charge innocent people to take them across the border but instead just murder them and dump their mutilated corpses on the side of the road? I think it would ruin the tone of the game. Plus it's just a horrible idea.

 

Also, let's not forget - let's NOT forget - Dude, that keeping wildlife, an amphibious rodent, for uh, domestic, you know, within the city - that aint legal either.

How is the murdering illegal aliens thing worse than killing a hooker for your money back? This could totally be in the game.

 

And come on, chain saw? There was one in vice city.

 

Are you trolling?

[aj10101]

 

How would the map be set up if Mexico is in the game?  Islands?  What are the boundaries?  Landlock?  Mexican military no fly zone?  Would LA or Mexico be bigger?

In my opinion only one city in mexico would be neated, and one border crossing. You should be able to drive across the border or fly on a commuter flight form airport to airport. If you tried to fly yourself you should be intercepted by an airforce.

 

With all of the military installations in and around san diego and the mexican border being so close it really seems like a prime city for GTA V

also one of the story lines would be about digging a smuggling tunnel that you would be able to use throughout the story line afterwards. I can think of about half a dozen missions all about procuring tunneling tools, and a cause havoc mission to serve as a diversion for when the bob cat or other form of ride on digging tool was brought to the tunneling site

[B Dawg]

Pursue of the Almighty Dollar... drugs make a lot of money...

[Kifflom112]

I still can't believe no one changed the title. Only an idioso would think Mexico and the USA are states.

 

 

[BillPatt]

I still can't believe no one changed the title. Only an idioso would think Mexico and the USA are states.

I've already tried to make that clear, but I was called an idiot.

[Freezer89]

 

I still can't believe no one changed the title. Only an idioso would think Mexico and the USA are states.

I've already tried to make that clear, but I was called an idiot.

Yeah, just don't listen to others.. technically the title is correct. I even posted wikipedia links about that further down on the first page. Are you from Europe by any chance?

 

edit: well sh*t, thought you was OP..

Edited September 18, 2012 by Freezer89

[BillPatt]

I still can't believe no one changed the title. Only an idioso would think Mexico and the USA are states.

I've already tried to make that clear, but I was called an idiot.

Yeah, just don't listen to others.. technically the title is correct. I even posted wikipedia links about that further down on the first page. Are you from Europe by any chance?

In school they are called Countries, I don't get my info from Wikipedia, anyone can change it around.

[Freezer89]

Yeah, but in this case it's really legit

 

How about this source then: http://geography.about.com/cs/politicalgeo...statenation.htm

There it's being explained very well..

"There are currently 196 independent countries or States around the world."

 

So both terms states and countries are correct.. no need for change of the title, just because country seems to be more appropriate. But to be honest I would call it countries, too.. it can be confusing, especially for US citizens.

[John The Grudge]

Honestly I think Mexican gangs are too violent to feature in a GTA game.  Would there be side missions where you chainsaw people's heads off, or maybe one where you charge innocent people to take them across the border but instead just murder them and dump their mutilated corpses on the side of the road?  I think it would ruin the tone of the game.  Plus it's just a horrible idea.

 

Also, let's not forget - let's NOT forget - Dude, that keeping wildlife, an amphibious rodent, for uh, domestic, you know, within the city - that aint legal either.

How is the murdering illegal aliens thing worse than killing a hooker for your money back? This could totally be in the game.

 

And come on, chain saw? There was one in vice city.

 

Are you trolling?

I'm not trolling. Mexican organised gangs are incredibly violent. Call me a wuss but I just don't want gangs associated with such extremes in a GTA game. I accept that one can commit heinous crimes in GTA IV but at it's core it's a light hearted game. The violence associated with these gangs is no joke.

 

I just don't think it's a good fit. I know there's way more to Mexico than that but it wasn't suggested as a tourist spot, it was suggested for drug related missions. I think Mexicans would be very offended if that were to be in the game.

[BillPatt]

That's the first time I've ever heard of that.

[Kifflom112]

 

I still can't believe no one changed the title. Only an idioso would think Mexico and the USA are states.

I've already tried to make that clear, but I was called an idiot.

Yeah, just don't listen to others.. technically the title is correct. I even posted wikipedia links about that further down on the first page. Are you from Europe by any chance?

 

edit: well sh*t, thought you was OP..

You must be trolling, or just incredibly stupid. Technically the title is INCORRECT. Don't believe sh*t typed up by a 7 year old on wikipedia.

I swear your comment is the dumbest sh*t I've read.

Edited September 18, 2012 by Kifflom112

[BillPatt]

I still can't believe no one changed the title. Only an idioso would think Mexico and the USA are states.

I've already tried to make that clear, but I was called an idiot.

Yeah, just don't listen to others.. technically the title is correct. I even posted wikipedia links about that further down on the first page. Are you from Europe by any chance?

 

edit: well sh*t, thought you was OP..

You must be trolling, or just incredibly stupid. Technically the title is INCORRECT. Don't believe sh*t typed up by a 7 year old on wikipedia.

I swear your comment is the dumbest sh*t I've read.

Relax dude, he just showed me in previous comments above that indeed states and countries are used differently, but I've always known them as Countries.

[John The Grudge]

It could be argued that "state" is more often used than "country". Calling New York, for example, a state isn't strictly correct in present day USA. A state is a country.

[Kifflom112]

It could be argued that "state" is more often used than "country". Calling New York, for example, a state isn't strictly correct in present day USA. A state is a country.

Yes it is. Maybe in other countries it ain't but in NY it is correct to call NY a state.

[Lance Wilson]

i always thought this. if you look at the mountains around armadillo its like the ones in the oil pump picture from the V trailer. only thing is the beaches of los santos rule it out from being the same land mass. would be amazing to hear stories of a fictional john marston from a random drunk in a bar in the desert though. at this point i really don't know what other cities/towns/areas are gonna be included

[BillPatt]

It could be argued that "state" is more often used than "country".  Calling New York, for example, a state isn't strictly correct in present day USA.  A state is a country.

Yes it is. Maybe in other countries it ain't but in NY it is correct to call NY a state.

ya Kifflom is right on this one... do you even live in the US? lol New York is a state.

[canadian_wakenbacon]

Dude, here just take it , amazing idea, it would be FKN SICK, imagine camping out with a sniper and a knight vision scoop just waiting for those waterbacks to jump over the fence and BOOM! Headshot for Mr.Hernandez hahahaha too sickkk

[aj10101]

the difference between state and country is like the directed between metropolis and huge city. both are correct, one is more correct.

also confusing the issue is that usa calls their biggest regions states where the rest of the world calls them provinces.

 

 

this is a gta game, rockstar will never shy away from something controversial. Mexican drug cartels are all over the news for the crazy sh*t they do like murdering chief of puce and taking over his entire town until the Mexican military show up to take it back. i for one will be very disappointed if there are no Mexican gangs in a so cal game

Edited September 18, 2012 by aj10101

[JoeJoeMcTwist]

Dude, here just take it , amazing idea, it would be FKN SICK, imagine camping out with a sniper and a knight vision scoop just waiting for those waterbacks to jump over the fence and BOOM! Headshot for Mr.Hernandez hahahaha too sickkk

You have smoked yourself retarded.

[jbte]

 

the difference between state and country is like the directed between metropolis and huge city. both are correct, one is more correct. 

also confusing the issue is that usa calls their biggest regions states where the rest of the world calls them provinces.

 

 

this is a gta game, rockstar will never shy away from something controversial. Mexican drug cartels are all over the news for the crazy sh*t they do like  murdering chief of puce and taking over his entire town until the Mexican military show up to take it back.  i for one will be very disappointed if there are no Mexican gangs in a so cal game

Both USA and Mexico are different countries but both of them has states (not provinces), and both countries are "United States", United States of America and United Mexican States as official name.

[Tommy34]

 

Idea with border missions is good. As somebody already said Mexico border is closer to LA than both San Fran and Vegas. However it is difficult to conclude from any info on GTA V that they will be including them. Official info stated only "city of Los Santos and surrounding hills, countryside and beaches." They did say this will be "the largest and most ambitious game Rockstar has yet created."

 

I believe that means no crossing border to Mexico. The border missions from the US side maybe but unlikely.

[Finn 7 five 11]

 

Honestly I think Mexican gangs are too violent to feature in a GTA game.  Would there be side missions where you chainsaw people's heads off, or maybe one where you charge innocent people to take them across the border but instead just murder them and dump their mutilated corpses on the side of the road?  I think it would ruin the tone of the game.  Plus it's just a horrible idea.

 

Also, let's not forget - let's NOT forget - Dude, that keeping wildlife, an amphibious rodent, for uh, domestic, you know, within the city - that aint legal either.

How is the murdering illegal aliens thing worse than killing a hooker for your money back? This could totally be in the game.

 

And come on, chain saw? There was one in vice city.

 

Are you trolling?

I'm not trolling. Mexican organised gangs are incredibly violent. Call me a wuss but I just don't want gangs associated with such extremes in a GTA game. I accept that one can commit heinous crimes in GTA IV but at it's core it's a light hearted game. The violence associated with these gangs is no joke.

 

 

I kinda see your point, but no gangs are a joke, GTA still parodies them, besides which the violence could be toned down, not everything has to be an exact portrayal of it's real life counterpart.

 

 

I just don't think it's a good fit.  I know there's way more to Mexico than that but it wasn't suggested as a tourist spot, it was suggested for drug related missions.  I think Mexicans would be very offended if that were to be in the game.

 

I don't see why Mexicans would be offended, there are hundreds of movies about the Mexican Drug industry -No country for old men, case in point.

Also gta haS portrayed multiple cities as festering pits of crime, people in those cities weren't offended.

 

[PutAQuarterIn]

Yeah, but in this case it's really legit

 

How about this source then: http://geography.about.com/cs/politicalgeo...statenation.htm

There it's being explained very well..

"There are currently 196 independent countries or States around the world."

 

So both terms states and countries are correct.. no need for change of the title, just because country seems to be more appropriate. But to be honest I would call it countries, too.. it can be confusing, especially for US citizens.

It just seems confusing to us Americans to call another country a state since we call ourselves the United STATES of America. What we commonly call state is closer to what others call a providence (not completely the same thing, but in this arguments sake, still a small governed area within a larger governed area.) So for us to call Mexico a state (especially when discussing an American state like California in this conversation) feels like someones trying to incorrectly imply it's a part of ''the states''....even though that not what you are trying to imply at all. It just reads that way when your conditioned to think of a state as a smaller part of a country.

In summary, it's a perspective thing. It's correct but it feels so wrong for some of us to call it that.

 

OT: I hope the border makes it in the game, but as long as the map is huge and filled with variety I'll be fine. If it's a limited resource thing then my feelings won't be hurt by it's absence.

Rather Mexico itself is there or not, Mexican cartels are a must! It wouldn't be present day SoCal without them.

 

Sorry about the rambling. Just thought I'd throw in my 2 cents