ZZCOOL Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 this is not another what if lv or sf will make a return but i thought of something it is a reimagined califonia they don't have to follow any rules if they want to put a las vegas based location in the game they can it dosn't mean it has to be a entirely new city like san andreas just a location inside of the game inside los santos outside of los santos it may sound weird but they can put las venturas inside los santos if they wanted to and call it whatever they want reimagined means they don't have to follow any rules they can be putting the eifel tower in the game if they wanted to anything they want can be in the game so it is not impossible we won't see what we want and expect anything that we liked in san andreas can be in the game they can mix it all together dosn't mean they have to choose the route of san andreas it just means if they wanted to they can put what we loved in san andreas in los santos ofcourse the most logical thing to think of is that they are doing their best to be as authentic as possible but that dosn't mean it's impossible for things we loved to make a return this is a reimagined califonia they can put whatever they want in this game it is unlikely but not impossible i won't go as far as saying vice city COULD be in the game but i am not saying anything like it won't it may not be vice city but they can make up a small city that resembles vice city the possibilities are endless ofcourse the most likely way is that they will be as authentic to los angeles as possible with their fun satire on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyTheBadass Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Wow, that was deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0eladn Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 well.. good to know i guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebig Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Of course they can put whatever they want in the game, but they will still inspire most of it to Los Angeles. So putting an Eifel Tower in game wouldn't be right. But the most fun things about LV (casinos and dessert) and SF (countryside and mountains) will be in GTA V, because in Los Angeles, there are mountains, desserts, casinos,... So they can choose what they do in game, but probably they won't make huge geographical mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonp92 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 They'll most likely be saving SF and LV for future games. Possibly in the V Era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smith John Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 As much as it hurts me, I really can't see SF and LV making a return. I don't know anything about 'disc space' and all that bollocks, but it just seems like it would be too much to have 3 extremely detailed cities with all the countryside/desert for current gen consoles to handle. I could be wrong of course - and I sincerely hope I am. I just hope Los Santos isn't the ONLY city. bash the fash m8s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe1606 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 They really should make a giant speaking cake in the middle of the city . You know , as a mission giver . Ah and space monkey as a friend . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
œaœa Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Well what if Rockstar's SoCal consists of LV and SF? If that's their attitude then yes, they can put them there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staten Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Well what if Rockstar's SoCal consists of LV and SF? If that's their attitude then yes, they can put them there. Vice City in GTA V confirmed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamieleng Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 They really should make a giant speaking cake in the middle of the city . You know , as a mission giver . Ah and space monkey as a friend . It should be a gateux hidden inside the black forest & it should lie to you constantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Justice Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 To me, what "reimagined" means is relevant to something we saw in IV: Alderney. Rockstar replaced Staten Island with Alderney because it was a more interesting area and made for more interesting characters and so on despite New Jersey being geographically in no way similar to Alderney as an island. What this means is that a reimagined Los Angeles could effectively be situated on the Mexican Border with no harm done. San Diego could exist as well seeing as it's also in SoCal. Yet, I don't think LV and SF stand a chance. San Francisco is in Northern Californica, while Vegas is in Nevada. If both of those cities were included, I'm sure Rockstar would have changed their wording to be along the lines of "a re-imagined present-day West Coast." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mig10 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 This guy is right, with todays potential, they could add all of the details that compounded those cities, i'm sure there are casinos in LA, beach and Hawaiian shirts in LA and skyscrapers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnDReJ98 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Well,we can look on V and SA like we did for GTA IV. When we waited for IV we talked about that what should be same as III and other,but only we can do now is guess,but there are most chances that in V will be bigger LS and something more...(none knows what) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj10101 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Wow, that was deep. this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarrowsKai Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 When they say "the game will take place in a re-imagined SoCal setting" they mean re-imagined from San Andreas. They'll keep it as close to the real life SoCal as they can just as they kept IVs Liberty City close to the real New York/Jersey City. Honestly I don't get why people want three full size cities in the game. The capacity of current gen consoles is good but you still won't be able to get three cities each a similar size to LC far enough apart so that you get enough countryside between them. The draw distance which is now 10x greater than SA would also have to be taken into consideration meaning the map would have to be huge. It's just not possible on current gen consoles unless you want a large but lifeless/bland map like in JC2. What's so bad about having one city, full of detail and different areas etc and just a few small towns set in masses of countryside? The alternative would be three smaller, blander cities only a couple minutes drive away from each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grope_4_that_date Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 this is not another what if lv or sf will make a return but i thought of something it is a reimagined califonia they don't have to follow any rules if they want to put a las vegas based location in the game they can it dosn't mean it has to be a entirely new city like san andreas just a location inside of the game inside los santos outside of los santos it may sound weird but they can put las venturas inside los santos if they wanted to and call it whatever they want reimagined means they don't have to follow any rules they can be putting the eifel tower in the game if they wanted to anything they want can be in the game so it is not impossible we won't see what we want and expect anything that we liked in san andreas can be in the game they can mix it all together dosn't mean they have to choose the route of san andreas it just means if they wanted to they can put what we loved in san andreas in los santos ofcourse the most logical thing to think of is that they are doing their best to be as authentic as possible but that dosn't mean it's impossible for things we loved to make a return this is a reimagined califonia they can put whatever they want in this game it is unlikely but not impossible i won't go as far as saying vice city COULD be in the game but i am not saying anything like it won't it may not be vice city but they can make up a small city that resembles vice city the possibilities are endless ofcourse the most likely way is that they will be as authentic to los angeles as possible with their fun satire on it Easier to read version: This isn't one of those What if Los Venturas and San Fierro make a return? threads. I was reminiscing Rockstar's original statement: "Grand Theft Auto V focuses on the pursuit of the almighty dollar in a re-imagined, present day Southern California." Then it hit me... if GTAV is a "re-imagined Califonia," (let's ignore the 'Sothern' part for the sake of my argument) then they don't have to follow any rules! They could put Las Vegas inside Los Santos if they wanted. Hell, they could put the Eiffel tower in the game too! It's 're-imagined'; they don't have to follow any rules. Therefore, this 'reimagined' California could have Paris, Vice City, Las Venturas, London, San Fierro and Liberty City all in Los Santos. Technically, anything they want can be in the game. Nothing is impossible. It is not impossible to think this... yes, it may be more logical to think Rockstar will create a more geographically correct Los Santos - of course - BUT that doesn't mean it's impossible to make it more like San Andreas, Vice City, and IV put together. This is a "reimagined California!" They can include whatever they want in the game! The possibilities are endless. In conclusion, Rockstar will most likely go with an authentic and real Los Angeles. Therefore, my argument is irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73duster Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 I suspect we will see a lot of what exists in Los Angeles today, as has been confirmed by many people who've dissected the screenshots and trailer footage. However, there are probably going to be a lot of areas that are made up from scratch. For a better idea of what i'm refering to, look no further than GTAIV. The concept for the map is a "reimagined" New York City. I live in the Bronx, N.Y.C, and i can confirm that the vast majority of Manhattan is VERY closely redone in GTAIV. Yet, the other boroughs have virtually NO resemblance to the Bronx, Brooklyn or Queens. I think Rockstar made an excellent choice to not go with an all out replica of NYC. Blending existing places with completely fabricated ones, makes for an interesting environment. GTAIV was well done, but the only drawbacks were the size of the map, and the lack of diversity in the environment. In all fairness, Liberty City was never meant to have a huge, diverse landscape. In that sense, it is VERY much like N.Y.C. Now that they have returned to Los Santos, they have a much larger landscape to play with. We will see a map thats much closer to San Andreas was, than GTAIV. I think we'll see a mix of the city atmosphere we saw in GTAIV, with the wild open landscape we saw in RDR, plus a few surprises in between. It's going to be a masterpiece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVOE Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 I'm just thinking that the game obviously is containing fixed gear bicycles and San Fransisco is a capitol city of fixed gear riders, and they've already done San Francisco-styled city San fierro. I'm just keeping my hopes up the city of hills is coming back i also think its unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamieleng Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 I think we'll see a mix of the city atmosphere we saw in GTAIV, with the wild open landscape we saw in RDR,plus a few surprises in between. It's going to be a masterpiece. The best thing is, this HD wilderness will be designed for motorized vehicles & not horses. I think everyone who has played GTA IV & RDR has dreamt of what driving your favourite vehicle across RDR' s map would be like. I can't wait to find out & that motocross screenshot really whet my appetite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isuck100% Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 I think we'll see a mix of the city atmosphere we saw in GTAIV, with the wild open landscape we saw in RDR,plus a few surprises in between. It's going to be a masterpiece. The best thing is, this HD wilderness will be designed for motorized vehicles & not horses. I think everyone who has played GTA IV & RDR has dreamt of what driving your favourite vehicle across RDR' s map would be like. I can't wait to find out & that motocross screenshot really whet my appetite. Yes, I always wished there was a cheat code in Red Dead Redemption to spawn in a car from GTA IV! As for the topic at hand... If they had only said "a re-imagined southern California", then you might have a point. But they have specified what will be included and that is "Los Santos and surrounding hills, countryside, and beaches". If there was more, they would not be so specific. Right from San Andreas's first announcement, it was confirmed to take place in a state composed of three cities. So obviously, San Fierro and Las Venturas are not returning. San Diego seems highly unlikely, but I won't completely count that out just yet. But instead of continuing to discuss these other cities' inclusion, let's wait until there's at least the tiniest shred of evidence that there will be another city, because at the moment it's all just wishful thinking and twisting Rockstar's words along with going against logic and reason to somehow argue for their inclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeol1987 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 I'm pretty sure this has been discussed a fair few times, however it is a possibility we'll see some more cities, but I think it'll be a new city if anything, based on San Diego. IF. RIP Rockstar Games 1998 - 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irrational Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Cockstar didn't say that GTA V will be a "reimagined California". They said that it'll be a "reimagined SOUTHERN California" Get this straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choco Taco Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 But they have specified what will be included and that is "Los Santos and surrounding hills, countryside, and beaches". The correct quote: Grand Theft Auto V heads to the city of Los Santos and surrounding hills, countryside and beaches Years ago, GTA was in Vice City. After that, where was the first specific location that GTA headed to? It headed to Los Santos and surrounding hills, countryside and beaches. Then it headed to San Fierro. After that, it headed to Las Venturas. See how that works? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroveStRoamer Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 V could definitely handle countrysides/deserts. RDR Had both of these landscapes and still could handle the smaller communities/Towns. Rockstar would have to shrink Los Santos for this to work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J32T3R Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Los santos only would he boring, also you forgot to add "if this has been disgusted before please lock if needed" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Valor Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 But they have specified what will be included and that is "Los Santos and surrounding hills, countryside, and beaches". The correct quote: Grand Theft Auto V heads to the city of Los Santos and surrounding hills, countryside and beaches Years ago, GTA was in Vice City. After that, where was the first specific location that GTA headed to? It headed to Los Santos and surrounding hills, countryside and beaches. Then it headed to San Fierro. After that, it headed to Las Venturas. See how that works? Meh, your argument is pure sophistry. The quote says "GTA V heads...", not GTA as a franchise (the way you use it). So the analogy already fails. Furthermore, R* never said GTA: San Andreas heads to Los Santos and surrounding countryside... in a re-imagined Southern California. If anything, R* was clear that GTA:SA was heading to an entire state (hence, the title). I get that everyone hopes "re-imagined" could mean anything from SF and LV to the pyramids of Egypt will appear in V, but there is reason R* used "Southern California" as a reference point, as opposed to "California" or "West Coast" or "Southern California AND Mexico." The distinction is not arbitrary. It's not that R* can put anything they want into Southern California, it's that R* is limiting what goes into V to cities/landmarks found in real life Southern California. Magic Al put it best here or in another thread: re-imagined Battlestar Galactica is still Battlestar Galactia, so expect Cylons and not Klingons. Same logic applies to GTA V. The inclusion of LV, SF, or even Mexico would only trivialize the Southern California statement, as well as R*'s commitment to only providing "accurate information." Expect elements from Southern California to be mixed up in V, don't get your hopes up for cities (or countries) that fall outside this area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwinterj Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Wow, that was deep. this I'll go with this for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliWolf420 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I kinda look at it as "reimagined" means a new R* version of SC, no real life taken into account. R* already did a version of SC, it was called San Andreas. V is a new Rockstar vision of SC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zee Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I want a f*cking movie studio. If a big movie studio to explore and cause havoc in isnt in the game then its officially going to suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstantCClassic Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I want a f*cking movie studio. If a big movie studio to explore and cause havoc in isnt in the game then its officially going to suck. Yeah bro, I 100% agree.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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