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Before GTA V


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Nice read but Vice City was better in my opinion and I don't need anyone to tell me any different. Still it did refresh my memory a little. I'd be happy if V was just San Andreas with GTA IV graphics and physics but I also want R* to do some new and original features.

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This article is very biased towards SA and written by person with clouded judgement. Most of the reasons are simply stupid of filled with fanboyism.

 

50. Most of weapons except sex toys and flowers, which were not only stupid but also totally useless were coming from VC. In addition some weapons were simply redundant. Saints Row 2 was had nicer selection of weapons than SA for example.

 

49. Introduction would be good if it was sold in better way. Basic version of the game didn't have that as it was coming with one of the OST boxes. I know you may actually watch it on YT, but thing like that should be included in the game.

 

48. Skills were good, but they were mostly useless. They were simply making issues with girlfriends (Katie and Michelle) or with missions (Black Project). Learning new moves is good, but worrying about fat and muscles isn't.

 

47. Kendl - really? She was written in good way, but her character and personality wasn't spectacular enough to make this game any better.

 

46. Freefall was one of these missions SA could live without. Stupid, useless and meaningless mission add to the game only to extend Salvatore mission tree.

 

45. WuZiMu was okay, but he as well may be totally healthy. His blindness weren't changing much in the story except including so totally not funny jokes (blind man racing cars).

 

44. Snail Trail - just another mission, without anything spectacular. Follow the target, dispose of him.

 

43. Cars were okay, but some of the models were just simply terrible (Vincent). They were put togheter without any imagination, which also caused redundancy (Premier - Elegant, Savanna - Blade, etc.).

 

42. Home Invasion - another mission, interesting, but not good enough to be reason on its own.

 

41. One of the most terrible things ruining the whole enjoyment. There's nothing better than fight with Ballas who spawned underwater, on the other side of town, or simply didn't spawn at all.

 

40. Catalina - only reason for her appearance was to shown CJ as a whinning bitch unable to do anything without stronger personality showing him directions he should follow.

 

39. Fender Ketchup - mission copied from Driver 1.

 

38. Graphics weren't actually nice, even at the premiere. Simple models with washed textures aren't the things that everybody would like to see.

 

37. Useless mission, being just another interior shooter without reason to do it. SA could live without it.

 

36. WCTR was probably one of the worst talk radios in GTA series. The only fun thing was interview with OG Loc. Rest was totally boring and indistinctive. WCTR was years after VCPR.

 

35. Toreno was good, but not good enough to be reason on his own. He got couple of missions (six?) and simply dissapered. Not the best way to show a character in video game.

 

34. Drive Thru got funny cutscene and that's all that was good about it. Mission was totally uninspired and indistinctive.

 

33. Reuniting the families was actually good and I would like to see more missions like this.

 

32. Sweet - narrowminded gangbanger. He was picturing himself as some higher authority in childish gang, but he simply destroyed his gang. Without CJ he would rot in prison and that was his only achievement.

 

31. Simply like 33.

 

30. Radio stations were simply not very interesting. They got good songs, but length of the game was making them boring and the DJs were quite annoying. VC was ideal example of perfect OST, not only giving well known songs, but also creating perfect atmosphere.

 

29. Amphibious Assault - stupid mission that was only reason in the whole game to have your lung capacity increased to higher levels. Very poor way to force you to increase totally useless skill.

 

28. Wrong Side on the Tracks - Don't make me start on that sh*t.

 

27. Yay Ka Boom Boom - see 33.

 

26. Flying was actually good and enjoyable. If only the game had more distant farsight.

 

25. Cutscene was good, but mission was piss poor.

 

24. High Noon - see 33.

 

23. Ceasar - character written in good way. I would like to see more like them, but also like Kendl, not reason to play the game, especially that Ceasar appearance isn't that common.

 

22. Bonus missions - some of them were good, some terrible (collectables and all these timed stunt missions). Nothing that would stand out from other games.

 

21. Black Project - see 28.

 

20. Sweet and Kendl - oh great misson. Run on the bike from Ballas trying to catch you with car and shooting constantly in your ass.

 

19. Big Smoke - see 23.

 

18. Humor was one of the things that was making this game annoying. Filling game with dicks, and 69 written on everything isn't the best way. This kind of childish humor is good for junior high school, but from the game rated +18 I would expect something more witty.

 

17. Vertical Bird - see 28.

 

16. Freedom in SA was interesting, but it becomes drag in the moment when you was finding out that you can't actually do anything new. How many times you can jump with parachute, or shoot rockets from Hydra?

 

15. Green Sabre - see 25.

 

14. Pulaski - see 23.

 

13. Setting - three almost dead cities separated by even more dead land isn't the best setting ever. We're getting three different cities, but that doesn't change the fact they were the worst cities R* created.

 

12. BtBaC - Ocean's eleven rip-off.

 

11. Just Bussiness - see 33.

 

10. The Truth - interesting hippie put in the game only to give you stupid mission (Black Project, Green Goo) or boring mission (Don Peyote). His good missions ended in SF.

 

9. The customization - SR2 got better version.

 

8. Pier 69 - another indistinctive mission. It was good, but not good enough to stand out from the rest of them.

 

7. Opening is the reason to play the game? VC or IV got a lot better introductions.

 

6. Tenpenny was good, but main reason for it is S.L. Jackson. Without him he would be as good as Pulaski. Dimitri is years ahead of Tenpenny.

 

5. HitH - simple corridor shooter and boring car chase.

 

4. I can agree that was one of the milestones in video games, pushing both boundaries of size and gameplay, but it's not as briliant as some want to see it.

 

3. CJ - one of the worts characters spawned by R*, whinning bitch without any personality, who will take sh*t from everybody.

 

2. End of the Line - see 33.

 

1. The Story - was actually the reason why I don't love this game as I may. Story is simply stupid make you run from one point to another, fullfilling orders without any explanation and reason for people who will call you names and give you even more sh*t. Definitely not point to play SA.

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GTA IV is better.

VC is better than IV, IV is the most fun you could have driving and causing mayhem but the story and the setting don't connect that well, the setting is nice despite not being Vice City, but the feeling is not there.

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I haven't read it. Would bore me to death anyways. GTA San Andreas may be one of the greatest games ever but not the greatest. It's not even the greatest GTA game IMO. That's GTA IV for me.

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In my opinion that was actually a terrible list, there was so many things that the write could have had in the list but instead he/she decided to flood half the list with missions. I didn't count but I reckon 50% of the items were missions.

 

The one thing that they failed to list and was probably my favourite part of the game was the map, not the setting necessarily but the actual map. It was enormous and I still find myself discovering new places I've never been before, even after 6 years. inlove.gif

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IN my opinion I love Liberty City Stories, but if I was to say in a popular opinion thingy I think GTA Vice City is the best ever. GTA SA is just not all that great to me. I couldn't wrap my head around the storty, but the gameplay and customization was fun.

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I think that it is one of the greatest games ever and definitely the best game on Ps2/xbox. At the time it was ground breaking and had so much packed into it/ A lot of people it took over a year to see it all in detail. It blew every game for the gen out of the water.

 

People that didn't get it when it was release won't/ can't get why so many people like the game to the level they do. Its a brilliant game and build onto what was the 2nd best game from that gen of consoles VC.

 

It's a great game for being over 8 years old. It's held up well over the years and game play is still something hard to match even from R*. An updated version of GTA SA would sell well even today if it was release with HD graphics. The map size is comparable with this generations games which is remarkable. And the variety and customization is the best balance between sanity and Saints Row.

 

It didn't take itself seriously for a reason. It is a game were serial killing is a part of game play, it didn't try to be realistic to the point where fun was taken out. It allowed the player to have fun to the level they wanted to push it too.

 

The story line had it faults but in the end it was an enjoyable game for not just GTA loyalist but to casual gamers that bought the game to have something fun to play, and i think that is it biggest attribute. Despite the game having no online play (Vanilla SA) it was still good for hours of mindless fun and had a story that didn't feel like a chore, and wasn't depressing and full of filler.

 

Is it the best looking game 8 years later? Hell no. Is it the most intellectually challenging game? No. Best story? No, But it does a lot of things very well, it looked halfway decent at the time, it had very fun game play and mechanics and had enough side mission to make a game out of.

 

Years later there are still rabid fans that mod and continue to make the game better and better to the point that it looks nothing like it former self and still enjoy the game immensely. Why because it was a great game with great mechanics, great amount of replayability, A large map, a large amount of customization and fairly easy to mod.

 

There are thousand of reason that the game is One of the Greatest games of all games currently out. The reason that it isn't are far smaller and focus around a story line of a 8 year old game that to all honestly wasn't expected to be as big of a hit as it was.

 

GTA-4 is a good game don't get me wrong but it wasn't all it could be, a crap load of features were taken out. And the map was rather small compare to what could have been done. GTA-4 wasn't complete because of delays and this and that reason and the story was dreary and full of useless and boring filler. It was the GTA-3 but for next gen. Everybody knows the next game is going to blow it out of the water and compared with other games from this generation GTA 4 is in tough company. Right now it wouldn't stand out in my mind as the best game for this generation.

 

GTA:SA is a great game one of the Greatest. But you have to compare it too games of it's generation and not base on the standards of today. It's the greatest of Its generation of games, with VC in close second. The same can't be said about GTA-4 there are so many games the are competitors for the greatest of this generation, including the soon to be release GTA 5

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GTA-4 is a good game don't get me wrong but it wasn't all it could be, a crap load of features were taken out.

How can it be taken out when it was never intended in the first place? GTA IV didn't take any of the previous features out. It simply didn't include them.

 

Big difference.

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I think that it is one of the greatest games ever and definitely the best game on Ps2/xbox. At the time it was ground breaking and had so much packed into it/ A lot of people it took over a year to see it all in detail. It blew every game for the gen out of the water.

 

People that didn't get it when it was release won't/ can't get why so many people like the game to the level they do. Its a brilliant game and build onto what was the 2nd best game from that gen of consoles VC.

 

It's a great game for being over 8 years old. It's held up well over the years and game play is still something hard to match even from R*. An updated version of GTA SA would sell well even today if it was release with HD graphics. The map size is comparable with this generations games which is remarkable. And the variety and customization is the best balance between sanity and Saints Row.

 

It didn't take itself seriously for a reason. It is a game were serial killing is a part of game play, it didn't try to be realistic to the point where fun was taken out. It allowed the player to have fun to the level they wanted to push it too.

 

The story line had it faults but in the end it was an enjoyable game for not just GTA loyalist but to casual gamers that bought the game to have something fun to play, and i think that is it biggest attribute. Despite the game having no online play (Vanilla SA) it was still good for hours of mindless fun and had a story that didn't feel like a chore, and wasn't depressing and full of filler.

 

Is it the best looking game 8 years later? Hell no. Is it the most intellectually challenging game? No. Best story? No, But it does a lot of things very well, it looked halfway decent at the time, it had very fun game play and mechanics and had enough side mission to make a game out of.

 

Years later there are still rabid fans that mod and continue to make the game better and better to the point that it looks nothing like it former self and still enjoy the game immensely. Why because it was a great game with great mechanics, great amount of replayability, A large map, a large amount of customization and fairly easy to mod.

 

There are thousand of reason that the game is One of the Greatest games of all games currently out. The reason that it isn't are far smaller and focus around a story line of a 8 year old game that to all honestly wasn't expected to be as big of a hit as it was.

 

GTA-4 is a good game don't get me wrong but it wasn't all it could be, a crap load of features were taken out. And the map was rather small compare to what could have been done. GTA-4 wasn't complete because of delays and this and that reason and the story was dreary and full of useless and boring filler. It was the GTA-3 but for next gen. Everybody knows the next game is going to blow it out of the water and compared with other games from this generation GTA 4 is in tough company. Right now it wouldn't stand out in my mind as the best game for this generation.

 

GTA:SA is a great game one of the Greatest. But you have to compare it too games of it's generation and not base on the standards of today. It's the greatest of Its generation of games, with VC in close second. The same can't be said about GTA-4 there are so many games the are competitors for the greatest of this generation, including the soon to be release GTA 5

I will agree with that. Vice City and San Andreas were some of the best games last gen. I really can't say the same for IV. I can say it however for RDR.

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I agrre with guys who said for VC and SA. I love SA much but not much like VC,i saw two polls about 'what's the best gta...' and SA took first place twice,IV got second VC once second place and twice 3th. When i was talking with one member here,he said that there were much polls (every got locked) about that (SA always won). GTA SA is the best,it's best made of rockstar,VC and IV aren't good enough to be better than SA. Only GTA V can get 1th place in future,so stay close for that story 'IV is better'.
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GTA-4 is a good game don't get me wrong but it wasn't all it could be, a crap load of features were taken out.

How can it be taken out when it was never intended in the first place? GTA IV didn't take any of the previous features out. It simply didn't include them.

 

Big difference.

There was plenty of areas that you could tell part of the game were taken out. Gameplay features. Its all over the coding of the game little things here or there that were never completed because of delays. There are places in game that you can tell aren't complete the internet in game for one example you can tell the websites were suppose to be more complete, there are more if you don't believe me go back through the game with new eyes looking for features that were repeated in previous games.

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San Andreas was a fantastic game and probs the most complete gta game so far but i just loved gta IVs Story so much it was so epic and original i liked how it went away from the cliche and it made san Andreas story look mediocre (almost like a saints row story in comparison ) so 4 me Iv just shades it but i can understand why people seem 2 like San Andreas more

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San Andreas was a fantastic game and probs the most complete gta game so far but i just loved gta IVs Story so much it was so epic and original i liked how it went away from the cliche and it made san Andreas story look mediocre (almost like a saints row story in comparison ) so 4 me Iv just shades it but i can understand why people seem 2 like San Andreas more

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what a stupid list. lol.gif

 

Whats so good about freefall? wctr?Flying?,Wrong Side of the Tracks?Sweet and Kendl? and some more. Some points are good but most of it are stupid. Gta Vice City Ties with SA for me icon14.gif

 

No offence but that website and the list is both idiotic. smile.gif

 

Also Never visit that website it is the worst ever! smile.gif

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San Andreas was a fantastic game and probs the most complete gta game so far but i just loved gta IVs Story so much it was so  epic and original i liked how it went away from the cliche  and it made san Andreas story look mediocre (almost like a saints row story in comparison ) so 4 me Iv just shades it but i can understand why people seem 2 like San Andreas more

Full stops, use them.

Why would i use full stops on the internet? this aint English class im not really worried about getting judged on my punctuation i got my point across which is what i was aiming 4 so go f*ck yourself tounge.gif

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GTA IV is better.

Yeah. IV was far more polished in terms of basically everything.

 

I would say out of the III era games, San Andreas had pretty much the best characters and missions, and even storyline as wacky as it was at times. However, personally III has a bigger sentimental value for me and that's why it is my favorite.

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