SCLASS Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 (edited) I work for a Software company in the UK. We make Legal software for Solicitors. At the moment the company is trying to branch out and is currently developing a more general purpose CRM system. The programmers hired are in Romania ( cheaper to hire) , however - there have been months of delays. As much as my Boss asks them as to when it will be ready , the only answer they give is 'soon' - turns out they are experiencing latency problems (its a 'cloud' based system) , but they are working hard to sort it out. In much the same way , I suspect the bulk of V is done and dusted. Missions are being tested out etc, ends being tied up etc , while this may be so, who is too say they are not experiencing some major problems ?, what about compressing all that data onto a DVD ? and deciding what music tracks to cut (audio fills up the majority of the disc) what about framerate issues or mission triggers not working properly ? V is likely to have more mini-games than IV, maybe the Housers bros or quality manager is not happy with said mini-games and is extending the projected release date ( an internal date they are working to) by a month or two ? I work in sales, and have no idea of real life cases of what could actually delay a game or what problems a studio could experience - that said, it is easy to imagine that the internal date R* is working to is getting it done by the end of the year - I suspect there really is no release date at the moment, SO much is riding on V, there are more in-game assets in their 'largest game to date' to polish , a lot of work could still be left to do. The Take Two share price at the moment is $10.57 at the moment compared to $25 in 2008 - they CANNOT FCUK things up so caution is likely the order of the day. Take Two just took a loss of $110 million in Q1 of 2012 - only 5 weeks ago did CEO Zelnick say that GTAV is “in full development and showing substantial progress,” 'Substantial progress' is code for 'there is still significant work to do', it is not a phrase one would use to describe a game that is say 90% complete - in other words, I cannot see a release before feb / march. I was a 2012 believer, but thinking it through all the evidence points to May next year. Edited September 10, 2012 by SCLASS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xzxxsicko Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 DUUUUH , it's an 2013 release. As soon you deal with it , pain isn't that huge eny moore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davedave22 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 u are talkingzzz stupid!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis44 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 I think the game is coming out next year, nothing else makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyTheBadass Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 DUUUUH , it's an 2013 release.As soon you deal with it , pain isn't that huge eny moore. Does your uncle's friend's best friend work as a janitor at Rockstar Games? As soon as it isn't OFFICIALLY confirmed by Rockstar Games, we CAN'T make ANY assumptions therefore words such as "confirmed" are completelly irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaroldBreevy Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 How many variations of the same topic are going to pop up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Strauss Zelnick want to avoid every question that belongs to GTA V. The best example was the conference call on July 31st. He just say "Shut the f*ck up with GTA V!" in a friendly, gently form so you should take this as a grain of salt. Rockstar and TakeTwo know the release date but it's just not officially confirmed yet. It would be huge mismanagement if they wouldn't have an internal release date. They just don't have announced a release date but it seems that it's before March 31st 2013. GTAForums Crew Chat Thread - The Sharks Chat Thread - Leone Family Mafia Chat Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adriaan Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 (edited) "Cool story bro" @ the personal story? What you said about troubles with the outsource Romanian work has no correlation with the development of Grand Theft Auto V, but I suppose you are trying to highlight that there could be unknown knowns (or known unknowns? :S) in video game development as well. What you said about Take-Two: Even after they reported their first quarterly loss, they STILL remained pretty adamant about the fact this will be their most successful financial year for the company. Great pre-order numbers for BioShock Infinite, Borderlands 2... and just look at how much people are anticipating NBA 2K13 (receives more likes/comments on its facebook page than GTAV screens does on Rockstar's Facebook page). And given the gap in financial projections for financial projections from Rockstar, they seem pretty confident in a GTAV release. As for Take-Two's statement in July on GTAV making "substantial progress", don't forget how much work they did with games like Vice City and San Andreas. It took them less than a year to make Vice City with a much smaller team, so I guess you could say that with possibly six months or so of development time left after they made that statement, they could still fit in a lot of work which happen at the back-end of a modern GTA. All that radio content, the missions, the extra stories, the in-game websites. Just think of this prior statement in Variety... the company shoots the equivalent of a feature film every few weeks with its motion capture rig, Houser notes Not everything takes the same amount of time. So the vehicles could have been finished already for some time now... but the level team could still have had some work left. Or even if they're done, too - there could be plenty of work left on the multiplayer side, which could be fit into a space of say 5 or 6 months. Edited September 10, 2012 by Adriaan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCLASS Posted September 10, 2012 Author Share Posted September 10, 2012 (edited) Harold, I have expanded a point within the topic title and given a few reasons to back it up . What the f**K have you contributed in your one day on these forums ? Adriaan, essentially yeah, that was the point - ya know 'join the dots' as they say Edited September 10, 2012 by SCLASS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johan Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Yes they don't know, what else is new? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaroldBreevy Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 (edited) Harold, I have expanded a point within the topic title and given a few reasons to back it up . What the f**K have you contributed in your one day on these forums ? See thats the thing, I dont just go posting Topics that have already been made multiple times. The only thing different with yours is your personal story of where you work. EDIT: @SCLASS Lol I havent seen one, because NO ONE KNOWS if Rockstar has an internal release date or not. Your stating it like its a fact they dont know the release date, which is a rediculous speculation to think they dont have an internal release date. Edited September 10, 2012 by HaroldBreevy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCLASS Posted September 10, 2012 Author Share Posted September 10, 2012 Harold - find another topic which is stating that R* have not got an internal release date to work to then.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerChimp Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Wait, we're comparing Romanian programmers at a (likely) small CRM company to Rockstar, which has been developing this game over the last five years with a nearly bottomless budget? OP, I'm not calling you out for being an idiot - which you certainly are - but there is no way that Rockstar, a subsidiary of a publicly traded company whose stock is in the sh*tter, is operating without an internal deadline against which they're trying to deliver. Slippages and delays occur, but they most certainly have a release date in mind. As for when that date is, WE don't know. It's just a matter of opinion, and opinions are like assholes... everybody has one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frantz Fuchs Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 People on this forum are exceptionable rude. He took his time to write that out, show him some damn respect. OT: Yeah, I agree with you OP. Rockstar don't want to delay V like they did with IV so they are waiting until they have a solid date in their heads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCLASS Posted September 10, 2012 Author Share Posted September 10, 2012 Thanks Frantze - the standards of the board have been declining for years... Dangerchimp .... Speaking of 'snide c*ntish remarks'..your last post to another OP. I was initially going to write some snide, c*ntish remark about all the free time the OP must have on his hands, but then I thought more about it. Good for you for being so excited and pumped about something to invest all this time into wish lists and predictions. I hope you have an awesome time when the game comes out! You have an attitude problem . I am 'certainly' an idiot for trying to draw a parallel between the two obviously quite different companies ? au contraire - the fact that a small company working on a relatively simple project experiences problems leading to a delay only highlights the likelyhood of this happening on a project the size of V. A release date 'in mind' will only be a cursory one that will be moved at the whiff of a problem in development which was the assumption I was using in my post. Do one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaroldBreevy Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 People on this forum are exceptionable rude. He took his time to write that out, show him some damn respect. OT: Yeah, I agree with you OP. Rockstar don't want to delay V like they did with IV so they are waiting until they have a solid date in their heads. Oh I know because its so damn hard to move your fingers to type on the keyboard, I feel for him. Please, give me a break, he could have easily posted this on a topic that was already created instead of wasting everyones time saying they dont have an internal release date like he knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyfa Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 They may not know an EXACT date but they more than likely have a time/week of a month which would be ideal for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frantz Fuchs Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 People on this forum are exceptionable rude. He took his time to write that out, show him some damn respect. OT: Yeah, I agree with you OP. Rockstar don't want to delay V like they did with IV so they are waiting until they have a solid date in their heads. Oh I know because its so damn hard to move your fingers to type on the keyboard, I feel for him. Please, give me a break, he could have easily posted this on a topic that was already created instead of wasting everyones time saying they dont have an internal release date like he knows. If he wasted so much of your time, why are you still here? you're wasting more of your time to post you bullsh*t so just leave... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCLASS Posted September 10, 2012 Author Share Posted September 10, 2012 (edited) Harold - I do hope your in your teens , there is still hope for your character to mature. Adults are not generally rude to each other without a reason. There's a good boy. Cyfa - quite so, but that week or month will be plus or minus a certain amount of time , a 'buffer' if you like. Don't forget - GTA IV was delayed for months due to the PS3 and its architecture, the 2007 release date was shifted by 6 months. Edited September 10, 2012 by SCLASS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaroldBreevy Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Harold - I do hope your in your teens , there is still hope for your character to mature. Adults are not generally rude to each other without a reason. There's a good boy. Cyfa - quite so, but that week or month will be plus or minus a certain amount of time , a 'buffer' if you like. Well first of all you were rude to me first... What the f**K have you contributed in your one day on these forums ? Also no company (in their right minds) starts their projects without an internal release date to work towards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCLASS Posted September 10, 2012 Author Share Posted September 10, 2012 Harold - you do have a chip on your shoulder - your posting history is antagonistic. Responding to a post you don't like is uncalled for , if the mods want to lock it they will. My post was under the assumption of a hypothetical internal problem and with lots of work to do , under those circumstances a 'its done when its done' attitude will prevail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiskeyFoxtrot Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 We may never know for sure. It's entirely possible that GTA V has lost an 'internal release' due to many 'internal delays' in hopes of just getting the game done, but at the same time, you would expect them to at least have some sort of date in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCLASS Posted September 10, 2012 Author Share Posted September 10, 2012 I should of made my OP clearer - I do feel though that there must be some kind of problems or perhaps a few more ideas are being shoehorned in ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaroldBreevy Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Harold - you do have a chip on your shoulder - your posting history is antagonistic. Responding to a post you don't like is uncalled for , if the mods want to lock it they will. My post was under the assumption of a hypothetical internal problem and with lots of work to do , under those circumstances a 'its done when its done' attitude will prevail. I was simply stating my opinion as thats what we do here, and you were the one swearing at me, I never once used any vulgar language towards you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The__Phoenix Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 I don´t agree with the OP,but there is some interesting thoughts. About T2´s statements you can extract between zero and nothing,so GTAV making "substantial progress" could mean that the game it´s finished or that the game has some serious development issues. You never know. About the release date,R* have a release window,before March 31 2013, so they know when GTA V must be released. Can be delayed one month or two as you say? Sure,it can happen. A delay of one/two months would be normal for a super ambitious (5 year)proyect like this,but if the game is internally delayed or if the internal release date is unknown ....we have no idea about it. What we know so far is that GTA V is planned to be launched before March 31,2013.Nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCLASS Posted September 10, 2012 Author Share Posted September 10, 2012 I wasn't aware the pre March 31st was a target date for R*...well that wouldn't be too bad to wait for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForumName Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 How can people possibly think the game will come out as late as May next year? Pessimism at it's finest I guess. I still think it could come out in December, if not then Feburary, Bioshock will just take the hit. And yes above user, if TTWO wants to meet their projected earnings they have to release GTA early March at the latest. If they do not they will have a lot of unhappy shareholders and their stocks will be in the gutter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r34ld34l Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 How can people possibly think the game will come out as late as May next year? Pessimism at it's finest I guess. I still think it could come out in December, if not then Feburary, Bioshock will just take the hit. And yes above user, if TTWO wants to meet their projected earnings they have to release GTA early March at the latest. If they do not they will have a lot of unhappy shareholders and their stocks will be in the gutter. Why so many colors? It is hard to read, so we don't care about your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Shot The Sheriff Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 TBH I didn't read what you said. Sorry but I don't have time to. IMHO Rockstar does know the release date, the question is how approximatedly. I think that by now they should know the release month, but the day I don't believe so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForumName Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 (edited) How can people possibly think the game will come out as late as May next year? Pessimism at it's finest I guess. I still think it could come out in December, if not then Feburary, Bioshock will just take the hit. And yes above user, if TTWO wants to meet their projected earnings they have to release GTA early March at the latest. If they do not they will have a lot of unhappy shareholders and their stocks will be in the gutter. Why so many colors? It is hard to read, so we don't care about your opinion. Why so little colors coupled with such a bad opinion and sentance structure? No one cares what you think. Anyway, it is just useless satire due to the person on the first page using colored text. I don't see why some people feel they need to be special and use it, all it does is get on peoples' nerves. Edited September 10, 2012 by ForumName Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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