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R* vs Naughty Dog


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I like it how Rockstar give us very little info. Gameplay videos for example are the worst type of information in my opinion. I want to play GTA V with the feeling that I play it for the first time. Today there are way too many games with way too many info prior the release and I don't like this. I fully support Rockstar with their "less is more" strategy.

No offense, but do you ever take a break from this forum? It's like you're everywhere.

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They want to keep most of Gta a surprise..

How's that working out for us?

Umm like this: "The less you know, the more enjoyable the game will be" cool.gif

Then I guess I'm the only one that doesn't want to buy a game without knowing WHO the main character is, WHAT gameplay features are in, WHAT the plot is and other stuff right?

 

 

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No offense, but do you ever take a break from this forum? It's like you're everywhere.

I'm here every day but that doesn't mean that I'm here all day. tounge.gif

 

OT: I would be completely satisfied (even more than now) if Rockstar would announce the release date and the day of the release of the PC version cool.gif

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And once again, the GTA V section of the forum descends into "THEY MAKE sh*t GAMES LOL", man, they should just call this section "Fanboys".

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The Last of Us has not yet been proved.

 

GTA is one of the biggest gaming franchises in the world...

 

its like you're asking us who would do better at sales: Bob's Economy Shop or Wal*Mart, they just don't quite compare... Naughty Dog is WAY out of their league...

 

that said, TLOU looks really good, and looks to be a decent fun game to play...but i doubt they're marketing strategy will allow them to top R*. in the gaming industry, GTA is always a top dog...

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The Last of Us has not yet been proved.

 

GTA is one of the biggest gaming franchises in the world...

 

its like you're asking us who would do better at sales: Bob's Economy Shop or Wal*Mart, they just don't quite compare... Naughty Dog is WAY out of their league...

 

that said, TLOU looks really good, and looks to be a decent fun game to play...but i doubt they're marketing strategy will allow them to top R*. in the gaming industry, GTA is always a top dog*...

The Last of Us has been proved as much as GTA V has been proved.

 

I assume a game from the guys who made the GTA series, Red Dead Redemption, Bully and Max Payne 3 would be awesome.

 

I also assume that a game from the guys who made Crash Bandicoot, Jax and Daxter and Uncharted would be awesome. Naughty Dog are one of the best developers that exist today, next to Rockstar Games.

 

 

GTA IV changed a lot of the GTA formula. I can't bet on GTA V being a good game, as Rockstar are the type of developers who will try a new direction. I do, however, think both GTA V and The Last of Us will be great games.

 

 

*And no, that would be Call of Duty at this point. The 'top dog' changes. It was at one time Mario, and although his games still sell in the millions it isn't considered the 'top dog'. GTA could have easily had its day.

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R* will always stick to the "WE HAVE THE PERFECT WAY OF DOING EVERYTHING, INCLUDING MARKETING" but I'm sure other games have had more successful marketing campaigns for games that weren't as good.

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They want to keep most of Gta a surprise..

How's that working out for us?

Umm like this: "The less you know, the more enjoyable the game will be" cool.gif

Then I guess I'm the only one that doesn't want to buy a game without knowing WHO the main character is, WHAT gameplay features are in, WHAT the plot is and other stuff right?

No, because they said their only releasing 100% accurate information, and they also don't want to give away most of the features, storyline etc.... Don't you read anything on these forums?

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f*ck Naughty Dog. I remember reading in Jacked: The Story of Grand Theft Auto that the head of Naughty Dog talked massive sh*t about GTAIII before it came out.

You mean that book written by a no body who got most of his research off the internet?

"David Kushner is a writer who has contributed to publications including Wired, The New York Times, Rolling Stone, IEEE Spectrum and Salon. "

 

U mad? He got his research from past interviews, either conducted by himself or through other people's interviews, internal emails from Rockstar taken from court documents used during the Hot Coffee investigations, and very interesting talks more recently with people that worked at Rockstar in the first few years when their offices were at 575 Broadway.

 

It was really interesting getting to read how Sam picked up another person who worked at Rockstar early on into Vice City's development at the time in his black Porsche and went to drive up FDR, listening to tracks on Sam's iPod to see how songs feel when you drive to it. Of course, there's many more interesting stories obtained from people who were willing to talk to someone such as the writer and tell stories of Rockstar. They wouldn't have done it with just "a nobody".

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Seriously, that part with Sam and the employee riding on FDR should be in a movie about the genesis of GTA.

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The Last of Us has not yet been proved.

 

GTA is one of the biggest gaming franchises in the world...

 

its like you're asking us who would do better at sales: Bob's Economy Shop or Wal*Mart, they just don't quite compare... Naughty Dog is WAY out of their league...

 

that said, TLOU looks really good, and looks to be a decent fun game to play...but i doubt they're marketing strategy will allow them to top R*. in the gaming industry, GTA is always a top dog*...

The Last of Us has been proved as much as GTA V has been proved.

 

I assume a game from the guys who made the GTA series, Red Dead Redemption, Bully and Max Payne 3 would be awesome.

 

I also assume that a game from the guys who made Crash Bandicoot, Jax and Daxter and Uncharted would be awesome. Naughty Dog are one of the best developers that exist today, next to Rockstar Games.

 

 

GTA IV changed a lot of the GTA formula. I can't bet on GTA V being a good game, as Rockstar are the type of developers who will try a new direction. I do, however, think both GTA V and The Last of Us will be great games.

 

 

*And no, that would be Call of Duty at this point. The 'top dog' changes. It was at one time Mario, and although his games still sell in the millions it isn't considered the 'top dog'. GTA could have easily had its day.

Fair enough, but what i mean to say is that TLOU is a brand new game/ series, and although certain elements of Grand Theft Auto have a way of changing, for the most part, we know what to expect...

 

i don't mean any disrespect to Naughty Dog, i'm just saying that GTA has a habit of breaking records, and i think that GTA:V will be no exception. Of course, i'm not a hardcore gamer, and am a GTA Loyalist, but even if people don't BUY GTA, i think most people will play it at some point, and i don't know if that will be the case with TLOU...

 

and if you reread my quote, you will notice that i did not say that GTA is THE top dog, but that they are A top dog...

 

for the most part, R* always has had some of the best Graphics, and i don't expect that to change...can't deny that TLOU looks pretty good though smile.gif

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Seriously, that part with Sam and the employee riding on FDR should be in a movie about the genesis of GTA.

Yes, the whole thing would make for an excellent film. Even if it is just loosely based on the company. I'm sure the people who work there won't agree; however, the majority of the people who worked at Rockstar in the first half of its current life no longer works there and might be more willing to talk about things.

 

Unrelated, but, I remember reading something about a movie script being written based on the story of the couple that committed suicide after they were being stalked by scientologists. The husband worked at Rockstar at the time and is the artist who designed the Rockstar logo.

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1-The last of us is NOT a completely OPEN WORLD sandbox game. Due to the technical limitations of the sandbox genre that GTA is based on, it will never be as visually impressive as a linear game.

2- It's RIDICULOUS to compare the hype surrounding these 2 games, because they aren't even on the same level. While there IS a very strong buzz around The Last of Us, it is light years beneath the juggernaut that is GTA. NO game comes close the the pandemonium that surrounds GTA. The gaming world comes to a complete halt the minute a single screenshot, or sliver of info is released.

I really like what i see in The Last of Us, and i'll definately buy the game. It might even turn out to be an extraordinary game experience. Nobody can say what will be a better game, because we haven't played these games yet, so this is simply a response to those who want to compare the marketing and hype.

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If you ask me, I prefer any other marketing campaing in the world that doesn't involve us waiting for almost a whole year cryani.gif

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They want to keep most of Gta a surprise..

How's that working out for us?

It's going to work out great, once you finally start playing the game. You will appreciate discovering things as you play, rather than having expectations that are founded on too much info. Sure, it's a bit annoying at the moment, but it WILL be worth it in the end.

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Haha, it's funny, yeah. What lasts the most is actually playing the game for years to come, and it's funny how everyone's just going to sort of forget about this all. Sure, I'll admit, the pre-release hype can be fun and was very fun years ago especially in the lead up to San Andreas, but it's playing the game that matters most.

 

That said, the jury is still out on how much more they'll show from here unto release date. A game like Max Payne 3, which needed more talking and showing, only started to have its first trailer pop up in mid-September, which then started everything (and yeah, I know about the previous Game Informer preview).

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@73duster

Haha, it's funny, yeah. What lasts the most is actually playing the game for years to come, and it's funny how everyone's just going to sort of forget about this all. Sure, I'll admit, the pre-release hype can be fun and was very fun years ago especially in the lead up to San Andreas, but it's playing the game that matters most.

 

That said, the jury is still out on how much more they'll show from here unto release date. A game like Max Payne 3, which needed more talking and showing, only started to have its first trailer pop up in mid-September, which then started everything (and yeah, I know about the previous Game Informer preview).

Unfortunately, Max Payne gets a rather undeserved negativity surrounding it. It's a shame that more people don't know that it's a fantastic game in it's own right. I think what hurt MP3 sales has a lot to do with the eternal development period. So many years went by, that no amount of marketing could make up for people who simply stopped caring. THIS is the biggest problem with the way Rockstar handles public information. If they simply waited until their projects were finished and in the testing stages, then we wouldn't have to wonder what's going on, or why there are numerous delays.

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Look the main thing is that "Naughty Dog" does sh*t only for the PlayStation and R* on the other hand does it for all our Fav Consoles and PC so i say they both cannot be compared unless if you are only comparing the PS3 Games.

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They want to keep most of Gta a surprise..

How's that working out for us?

Umm like this: "The less you know, the more enjoyable the game will be" cool.gif

Then I guess I'm the only one that doesn't want to buy a game without knowing WHO the main character is, WHAT gameplay features are in, WHAT the plot is and other stuff right?

No, because they said their only releasing 100% accurate information, and they also don't want to give away most of the features, storyline etc.... Don't you read anything on these forums?

I do read through the forums but you obviously missed the point of my reply to you, especially the question the OP asked

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What really gets me is the amount of information out about it; proper game play trailers and story information, and I find the whole thing pretty exciting. R*, on the other hand, has totally gone in the other direction - GTA V is supposed to launch before TLOS, and we don't even have a storyline, let alone official game play. They've probably been in dev about the same amount of time - GTA V probably longer - but the approach is 180' different.

That's exactly why GTA V will sell more copies than 'The last of us' and 'Watch Dogs' combined.

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R* and Naughty Dog are like the last companies that actually put effort in all of their games

Don't forget bethesda.

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f*ck Naughty Dog. I remember reading in Jacked: The Story of Grand Theft Auto that the head of Naughty Dog talked massive sh*t about GTAIII before it came out.

You mean that book written by a no body who got most of his research off the internet?

"David Kushner is a writer who has contributed to publications including Wired, The New York Times, Rolling Stone, IEEE Spectrum and Salon. "

 

U mad? He got his research from past interviews, either conducted by himself or through other people's interviews, internal emails from Rockstar taken from court documents used during the Hot Coffee investigations, and very interesting talks more recently with people that worked at Rockstar in the first few years when their offices were at 575 Broadway.

 

It was really interesting getting to read how Sam picked up another person who worked at Rockstar early on into Vice City's development at the time in his black Porsche and went to drive up FDR, listening to tracks on Sam's iPod to see how songs feel when you drive to it. Of course, there's many more interesting stories obtained from people who were willing to talk to someone such as the writer and tell stories of Rockstar. They wouldn't have done it with just "a nobody".

I actually heard from various people that the book was a load of crap and not worth the read, you and Zee are the only people I've seen speak high of it.

 

And yeah, as for the rest of thread, man, GTAForums sure has the best fanboys around, almost as bad a One Direction and Lady Gaga fans!

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R* and Naughty Dog are like the last companies that actually put effort in all of their games

Don't forget bethesda.

He said effort, not game breaking bugs and general lack of attitude towards one console whilst sucking the tit of another.

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R* and Naughty Dog are like the last companies that actually put effort in all of their games

Don't forget bethesda.

He said effort, not game breaking bugs and general lack of attitude towards one console whilst sucking the tit of another.

I've never came across a bug on the PS3.. Probably because I got it after the patch, but even then I see people whining about it everywhere. You all must be doing something wrong.

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Naughty Dog’s Jason Rubin accused them of the equivalent of “selling cigarettes to kids”. So f*ck 'em. They knew GTA will have HUGE potential. Couldn't take it they were still making Crash Bandicoot lol.gif

crash bandicoot > gta. any day.

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Naughty Dog’s Jason Rubin accused them of the equivalent of “selling cigarettes to kids”. So f*ck 'em. They knew GTA will have HUGE potential. Couldn't take it they were still making Crash Bandicoot  lol.gif

crash bandicoot > gta. any day.

You talking Old Crash Bandicoot or New Crash Bandicoot?

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Naughty Dog’s Jason Rubin accused them of the equivalent of “selling cigarettes to kids”. So f*ck 'em. They knew GTA will have HUGE potential. Couldn't take it they were still making Crash Bandicoot  lol.gif

crash bandicoot > gta. any day.

You talking Old Crash Bandicoot or New Crash Bandicoot?

old. both amazing games (gta, crash), but crash takes it for me via nostalgia.

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