Dangerous neighborhoods in V

[JuankAirPilot]

@Adriaan

Read the OP's statement properly, he's clearly talking about getting shot at or attacked in GTA IV without angering anybody or provoking the situation. That scenario, along with being robbed and carjacked for no reason, never happened in GTA IV or the Episodes.

Read my entire post and don't just skim over my first sentence in the post you quoted. If you read my entire post you will clearly see that I am certainly aware what he meant. If anyone needs to read properly, it is you.

 

And actually, there are random moments in GTAIV where you actually do get randomly chased down and attacked in GTAIV. If you read the first page more, you see I talked about the Russian guys that chase you randomly down.

They do attack you without provocation, if you don't move off their patch in time.

@ Adriaan

 

I've read your other comments. That sounds like a 0.1 percent one-off to me, the Russian guys in GTA IV will not just start chasing you to attack you unless you provoke them for 99.99 percent of the time. None of gangs in IV do this.

 

@ jamieleng

 

That is not true. I for one have never seen this, and believe me I investigated this hard. Gang members only start threatening you and telling you to get off their territory whenever you hit, push, barge or walk into them. This can be done easily by accident and the player may not even be aware he bumped into a gang member, making it seem like he is being threatened or attacked for no reason.

I guess I have expirenced the Russian's chasing me, but it only happens outside the bar in Hove Beach for the most part.

 

I can see where I may not have been clear, but I'm referring to the blatant "gunshots" from ruthless thugs that try to destroy your car anytime you just pass through their block. Sometimes I don't want to get my car messed up, do I avoided St Marks or Idlewood. In IV, I'll push my Super GT through any area unscaved......

 

It's safe to say citizens of Liberty can get ignorant, but generally won't without you causing some riff raff. We'll see what happens in Los Santos

[JuankAirPilot]

.....oh, and apparently to answer one of my initial questions, Hove Beach appears to be the most dangerous part of Liberty City.....Hove Beach.

 

Lol. It's true.

[Finn 7 five 11]

 

I guess the reason you didn't see those III and GTA:SA shootings was because there was no real gang element in GTAIV. Let's say there is a similar type of gang system in GTAV, I don't really see it being similar in AI terms. They'd have to really spot you before starting to come at you or shoot at you. In GTA3 it was really crazy, while in GTA:SA it was updated a bit and made more realistic as you know.

III was a bit over the top, SaN Andreas almost nailed it, gang members would only come after you if you went near them, but sometimes it was from really far away.

 

V should be as suggested on sight only.

[Algonquin Assassin]

Thinking about it Niko was a nobody in LC so why would the gangs attack him just for the sake of it? He was a hired gun who moved around.

 

For story purposes random gang members wouldn't have known who he was. While there wasn't an immediate danger you still had to be careful. I've seen people say GTA IV doesn't have gangs which is funnny because it has more than SA.

 

The key difference is R* made them blend in rather than like the cartoon gangs from the GTA III era where 5 guys stand in a group wearing the same outfit and stick out like sore thumbs.

 

When GTA IV was new and we were still learning the game walking around was dangerous as you could bump into a Russian without realizing it. With the GTA III era they were so easy to identitify you just naturally avoided them.

 

I'm hoping it's more like GTA IV, but they show a bit more aggression. It's clear not many people liked in GTA III being attacked all the time so aslong as they have a reason to be hostile I'm fine with whatever R* do.

Edited September 11, 2012 by Miamivicecity

[AtomicPunk]

I heard on the news people in Chicago calling their beloved town "chIraq" because of all the murders and whatnot. Maybe R* could make a little part of a neighborhood like that, but that sh*t would get old fast for me and I would head to that town in a tank.

[JuankAirPilot]

Yea, ppl are referring to it as Chiraq and sadly some ppl are proud if that, I'm not. They're even thinking about bringing in the nation guard aka 5 Stars in GTA, to patrol our streets. A shame, because it a beautiful city, but every town has its slums.

 

 

Their we're gangs in IV, but not like in SA where they rocked flags and colors and threw up signs. I wanna see that sh*t.

[Kifflom112]

I did feel scared in some neighborhoods of GTA IV. You could be walking in Northwood and then some guy threatens you, or in Little Italy, a guy could get mad at you just for bumping into him.

[JuankAirPilot]

I did feel scared in some neighborhoods of GTA IV. You could be walking in Northwood and then some guy threatens you, or in Little Italy, a guy could get mad at you just for bumping into him.

Like when you walk into a [email protected] internet cafe and get threatened by a black guy for being white and "looking lost", even though it's an Internet cafe.....and even though I'm black in real life.

 

It is true that some ppl in IV will get irritated with you just for standing around them, and if you bump into them or simply don't leave, the gloves come off.

[Algonquin Assassin]

I did feel scared in some neighborhoods of GTA IV. You could be walking in Northwood and then some guy threatens you, or in Little Italy, a guy could get mad at you just for bumping into him.

Like when you walk into a [email protected] internet cafe and get threatened by a black guy for being white and "looking lost", even though it's an Internet cafe.....and even though I'm black in real life.

 

It is true that some ppl in IV will get irritated with you just for standing around them, and if you bump into them or simply don't leave, the gloves come off.

What I like about GTA IV is when you're in a fight other peds will jump in even if it doesn't concern them. That happens all the time. Sometimes I'll start a fight and a nearby hobo will jump in and beat the guy up for me.

 

Although the gangs generally leave you alone some of the regular peds are tough mofos. Moreso than the GTA III era from what I've seen.

 

 

[JuankAirPilot]

What I like about GTA IV is when you're in a fight other peds will jump in even if it doesn't concern them. That happens all the time. Sometimes I'll start a fight and a nearby hobo will jump in and beat the guy up for me.

 

Although the gangs generally leave you alone some of the regular peds are tough mofos. Moreso than the GTA III era from what I've seen.

I enjoy that as well, except when I have a slew of random peds rushing in from countless yards away to gang up on me, just because I pushed 1 person they've never even met in their life. I must admit, I've definitely lost more fights to peds in IV than in any other GTA game......especially the ones that have the 1 hitter quitter. It's like 1 sec you have full health, then 1 sec later BLAM, you're knocked out with 1 punch. Wtf?

[theworldfamous]

What I like about GTA IV is when you're in a fight other peds will jump in even if it doesn't concern them. That happens all the time. Sometimes I'll start a fight and a nearby hobo will jump in and beat the guy up for me.

 

Although the gangs generally leave you alone some of the regular peds are tough mofos. Moreso than the GTA III era from what I've seen.

I enjoy that as well, except when I have a slew of random peds rushing in from countless yards away to gang up on me, just because I pushed 1 person they've never even met in their life. I must admit, I've definitely lost more fights to peds in IV than in any other GTA game......especially the ones that have the 1 hitter quitter. It's like 1 sec you have full health, then 1 sec later BLAM, you're knocked out with 1 punch. Wtf?

there's nothing more dangerous than a ped with a knife. once they start cutting you there's nothing you can do.

[Finn 7 five 11]

What I like about GTA IV is when you're in a fight other peds will jump in even if it doesn't concern them. That happens all the time. Sometimes I'll start a fight and a nearby hobo will jump in and beat the guy up for me.

 

Although the gangs generally leave you alone some of the regular peds are tough mofos. Moreso than the GTA III era from what I've seen.

I enjoy that as well, except when I have a slew of random peds rushing in from countless yards away to gang up on me, just because I pushed 1 person they've never even met in their life. I must admit, I've definitely lost more fights to peds in IV than in any other GTA game......especially the ones that have the 1 hitter quitter. It's like 1 sec you have full health, then 1 sec later BLAM, you're knocked out with 1 punch. Wtf?

there's nothing more dangerous than a ped with a knife. once they start cutting you there's nothing you can do.

Combined with IV's super clunky fighting where Niko punches like an old man.

 

@Miami, i agree i sort of prefer the less distinct but still distinguishable gang members, by that i mean that they don't all stand around wearing the same clothes, but usually you can tell that they are gang members.

[Algonquin Assassin]

What I like about GTA IV is when you're in a fight other peds will jump in even if it doesn't concern them. That happens all the time. Sometimes I'll start a fight and a nearby hobo will jump in and beat the guy up for me.

 

Although the gangs generally leave you alone some of the regular peds are tough mofos. Moreso than the GTA III era from what I've seen.

I enjoy that as well, except when I have a slew of random peds rushing in from countless yards away to gang up on me, just because I pushed 1 person they've never even met in their life. I must admit, I've definitely lost more fights to peds in IV than in any other GTA game......especially the ones that have the 1 hitter quitter. It's like 1 sec you have full health, then 1 sec later BLAM, you're knocked out with 1 punch. Wtf?

there's nothing more dangerous than a ped with a knife. once they start cutting you there's nothing you can do.

Combined with IV's super clunky fighting where Niko punches like an old man.

 

@Miami, i agree i sort of prefer the less distinct but still distinguishable gang members, by that i mean that they don't all stand around wearing the same clothes, but usually you can tell that they are gang members.

After 4 years it's noticeable, but when the game was new picking them out was hard.

[jamieleng]

@JuankAirPilot

 

Shouldn't your Custom Member Title read 'Juank Air - Cum Fly, with the personal touch'.

 

You can take that to the wank.

[FranticFatality]

Well I know that in TBoGT sometimes if you have your gun out in AOD turf they'll tell you to put it away and if you don't they'll turn hostile but I think that was added in to put more of an emphasis on their racism.

 

The heavily gang controlled areas need to make the player feel more uncomfortable but I don't want to see the player getting shot on sight unless there's an explanation of some kind for the beef.

 

The gangs need to watch the player as they move through their turf and begin to harass them if they hang around for too long.

 

If the player draws a weapon their hostility should start to rise faster and be more deadly.

hell naw in my hood if theirs some random foo in there we would wait for a few minutes rob him and if he pulled out a gun out of nowhere forsure he would get shot cuz we'd think he's gonna shoot us you know but were in south side los angeles and it dont get no worse then us even south central foos dont come to the hood haha

Either you are a low life scum criminal who thinks they are cool by robbing people and tell users on an internet forum.

 

Or a 12 year old who is trying to be an internet gangster.

 

@Topic

 

I made a thread with my other account (which I can't access because of me not being able to remember the password and get to my old email), but yeah, there should be dangerous hoods, but not too dangerous. I don't want to be constantly running through an area because it's 'dangerous' and any gang member will attack you on sight.

[dukee152]

I think we need a mix like if your driving they will not attack you because they are not always looking for you but, when you walk around in some other gangs neighborhood for to long they will start to tell you to leave (or more likely they will say "GTFO cracker or else you wanna get rocked") and then they will eventually shoot at you.

[JuankAirPilot]

@JuankAirPilot

 

Shouldn't your Custom Member Title read 'Juank Air - Cum Fly, with the personal touch'.

 

You can take that to the wank.

I will take that to the wank.....and adopt that as my new title. Nice work.

 

If we're Ned or Ted whoever, I see gang interaction being more like with Niko where they kinda just let you be unless you piss them off. If we're a younger guy, I could see some affiliation with gangs in our future. Time will tell.

[J32T3R]

I hated how i got shot at everytime i went one a sunday drive, it felt like a mad dash weaving in and out of traffic trying to leave the neighborhood

[loki18760]

I'd like to get shot at more. I missed it in the single player of GTA 4. The gangs that were in it were lack luster to say the least. Outside of the story besides the side mission the environment felt unimportant from a game play standpoint.

 

SA made you fear your surrounding or at the very least be annoyed at them and that is a good kind of annoyance. But It was nice to have to plan what you were doing depending on who ran the hood you wear in. Same could be said about Saint Marks too and In VC I didn't spend time there a lot because you knew that without cheats those were places you were going to be f*cked up.

 

Not once did anything like that happen in GTA4 the gangs were too small and were nothing more that an empty magazine from being dealt with.

 

Gta 5 should have the dangerous neighborhoods back. It adds to the feel of a city and it wouldn't feel right to drive down the streets of a seedy neighborhood and not have a little fear of being shot, stabbed or carjacked.

[JoeJoeMcTwist]

I think there needs to be a fine balance between not getting hassled unless hassling and getting overly hassled. It should be realistic in a way that If your walking minding your own business in a bad neighborhood, most nights nothing will happen. But, theres the odd time you will get jumped. That way you won't be constantly getting harassed but you'll feel uneasy when entering gang turf.

[DustyRider]

If the main character will be that white dude from the trailer, it should be something like when you walk like in ghetto areas people should look at you and say things like 'are you lost white boy' or 'you wanna get yourself killed out here' and follow you or something like that.

or in some alleys at night with bums and what not you should get (randomly and not to often) jumped by some junkies.

[esemonster]

Well I know that in TBoGT sometimes if you have your gun out in AOD turf they'll tell you to put it away and if you don't they'll turn hostile but I think that was added in to put more of an emphasis on their racism.

 

The heavily gang controlled areas need to make the player feel more uncomfortable but I don't want to see the player getting shot on sight unless there's an explanation of some kind for the beef.

 

The gangs need to watch the player as they move through their turf and begin to harass them if they hang around for too long.

 

If the player draws a weapon their hostility should start to rise faster and be more deadly.

hell naw in my hood if theirs some random foo in there we would wait for a few minutes rob him and if he pulled out a gun out of nowhere forsure he would get shot cuz we'd think he's gonna shoot us you know but were in south side los angeles and it dont get no worse then us even south central foos dont come to the hood haha

Either you are a low life scum criminal who thinks they are cool by robbing people and tell users on an internet forum.

 

Or a 12 year old who is trying to be an internet gangster.

 

@Topic

 

I made a thread with my other account (which I can't access because of me not being able to remember the password and get to my old email), but yeah, there should be dangerous hoods, but not too dangerous. I don't want to be constantly running through an area because it's 'dangerous' and any gang member will attack you on sight.

go f*ck yourself asshole im just trying to survive cocksucker

[esemonster]

Well I know that in TBoGT sometimes if you have your gun out in AOD turf they'll tell you to put it away and if you don't they'll turn hostile but I think that was added in to put more of an emphasis on their racism.

 

The heavily gang controlled areas need to make the player feel more uncomfortable but I don't want to see the player getting shot on sight unless there's an explanation of some kind for the beef.

 

The gangs need to watch the player as they move through their turf and begin to harass them if they hang around for too long.

 

If the player draws a weapon their hostility should start to rise faster and be more deadly.

hell naw in my hood if theirs some random foo in there we would wait for a few minutes rob him and if he pulled out a gun out of nowhere forsure he would get shot cuz we'd think he's gonna shoot us you know but were in south side los angeles and it dont get no worse then us even south central foos dont come to the hood haha

You're not serious right? lol Internet gangsta. I have a feeling your not the one out in streets doing stick ups.

f*ck you bitch im just putting my insight on this sh*t topic you dont wanna see me in maywood trust me buddy leave it as that

[esemonster]

None of gangs in IV do this.

Yeah, I know that. I didn't say they do. Not exactly sure why you are coming after me with things I didn't even say. I didn't say anything untruthful or incorrect.

 

You're the one who incorrectly made assumptions about me and said I didn't read the OPs post properly and that I didn't understand what he meant. When, if you actually did read my first post fully, you will clearly see that I DID understand everything he said.

@ Adriaan

 

Well to me, it sounded like you were trying to convince the OP that gangs do attack the player for no reason or without provocation. That is just how it looked to me, I was not coming at you, I was simply responding to your comments and disagreeing with them.

 

If you say you were not saying those things, then I take your word for it and I retract back on what I said earlier, simple.

 

@ HaroldBreevy

 

Just because someone talks online in internet forums, it don't mean they know nothing about street gang culture and ghetto life. I'm pretty sure that even the most hardened gang members use the internet too. You don't know the guy personally to doubt him, if that's what he says, it's what he says.

thanx man some people are f*cking stupid happy to see your not one of them just because im gangbanging doesnt mean im to stupid or broke to use or own a laptop f*ck i swear some people are dumb trust me what i saw on hear is from past and most likely future expieriences

[MyDog]

None of gangs in IV do this.

Yeah, I know that. I didn't say they do. Not exactly sure why you are coming after me with things I didn't even say. I didn't say anything untruthful or incorrect.

 

You're the one who incorrectly made assumptions about me and said I didn't read the OPs post properly and that I didn't understand what he meant. When, if you actually did read my first post fully, you will clearly see that I DID understand everything he said.

@ Adriaan

 

Well to me, it sounded like you were trying to convince the OP that gangs do attack the player for no reason or without provocation. That is just how it looked to me, I was not coming at you, I was simply responding to your comments and disagreeing with them.

 

If you say you were not saying those things, then I take your word for it and I retract back on what I said earlier, simple.

 

@ HaroldBreevy

 

Just because someone talks online in internet forums, it don't mean they know nothing about street gang culture and ghetto life. I'm pretty sure that even the most hardened gang members use the internet too. You don't know the guy personally to doubt him, if that's what he says, it's what he says.

thanx man some people are f*cking stupid happy to see your not one of them just because im gangbanging doesnt mean im to stupid or broke to use or own a laptop f*ck i swear some people are dumb trust me what i saw on hear is from past and most likely future expieriences

LOL you're a funny guy.

[kingcs]

Well, this will definitely light fire to the flame war. It's about to get ugly and this can't/won't end well.......

[theworldfamous]

I want the countryside to have some dangerous areas as well.. make a wrong move and you'll find yourself being chased back into the city by rednecks in pickups throwing molotovs at your car.

[JuankAirPilot]

Well, this will definitely light fire to the flame war. It's about to get ugly and this can't/won't end well.......

The gloves are off......

 

@esemonster, what do you mean "sh*t topic".....if you don't like it don't post. I'm not the one calling you out for cyber banging.

[Cutter De Blanc]

This place just seems like it will be mighty dangerous at 2 in the morning.

 

[Algonquin Assassin]

I think there needs to be a fine balance between not getting hassled unless hassling and getting overly hassled. It should be realistic in a way that If your walking minding your own business in a bad neighborhood, most nights nothing will happen. But, theres the odd time you will get jumped. That way you won't be constantly getting harassed but you'll feel uneasy when entering gang turf.

I think it would be cool if it was random. You know what would send fear up my spine? That uncomfortable silence. Walking through a bad neighborhood where it's unusually quiet would make me think twice.

 

Think of RDR. You could be out collecting plants and get jumped by a cougar. This is what I'd like in GTA V. I want to be walking through some alleyway and sometimes nothing will happen. Othertimes you should get jumped by some crazy crackhead with a syrnge full of blood.