HomerNarr Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 (edited) Samsung SSD 830 252GB Siemens LW232 / Samsung Syncmaster Monitor 16 GB RAM Windows 7 Home Premium Intel i7 2600K 3.4 Ghz NVidia 570 GTX X-Fi fatality Latest Drivers System is a replacement of a goner PC, where i was able to play GTA4 / EFCL quite well. GTA4 Retail (bought on Releaseday) EFLC Retail Installed GTA4 after that EFLC. Installed 1.0.7 and 1.12 for EFLC Resolution 1680*1050 unchanged Settings after Install: 1680*1050 Every thing is set to high. view distance is 25 detail distance 30 Vehicle 51 Game is quite sluggish. makes a stop, than slowmo, than a short time plays normal. than stop, slow, playable and so on and on playable is less then 4-1 secs. tried severall settings from beginning at the lowest point 800x600 doesnt make a difference. When Nico is to step through the red door , all stops, then he can walk slowmo to a car. gets a little better than. Reinstalled Games several times , last time it didnt start at all, it started rockstar social games over and over. wanted "repair" but system didnt let me choose and i got a remove. Edited September 9, 2012 by HomerNarr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prometheus Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Did you install the latest drivers? If that didn't fix the problem, then try this solution. Basically -memrestrict is telling the game how much video memory your system has available. At startup we query the OS for this value but as some of you may have noticed the number can vary even though you are obviously not changing your video card everytime you play the game. Once the game exceeds the amount of video memory available, the Os finds it from somewhere else (system memory) and eventually this causes fragmentation and the game throws up an RESC10 error because the OS can't find anymore free memory. The tricky part is that every OS behaves differently, and thats before you factor in other .dll's and drivers that also make requests from this memory pool which will be different from user to user. Using -memrestrict explicitly tells the game how much video memory to use. The math is to take the desired meg number and multiply it by 1024 twice. So if we wanted to declare 600 megs of VRAM: 600 x 1024 x 1024 = 629145600 you would enter the commandline "-memrestrict -629145600" Lowering this number increases stability of the game by capping the video memory, but there will come a point where there isn't enough memory to draw everything required by the game which is when you see "popping". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomerNarr Posted September 9, 2012 Author Share Posted September 9, 2012 In the options the game finds some 1200 which the Nvidia has: 1.280 MB cant say the details, installing again right now. a finished... i will install the 1.0.4 path and try again. l8er Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpm1 Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 GTA IV is a very good game but also a very ressource demanding game , so i'd better tell ya whatever your rig there's 99% chances you won't be able to run it everything set on very high with no lag . then there are several tweaks to gain fps . but i play on medium high and the game is photorealistic , i mean really ohtorealistic (@ 50 fps constant) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomerNarr Posted September 9, 2012 Author Share Posted September 9, 2012 (edited) So some "Daddys back..." later: installed up to 1.0.4 set game to lowres textures and set to minimum -memrestrict. Not perfect, but better. Installed 1.0.7 after that. Performance the same, but the patch reseted the setings to highres Textures But running around things were popping up. changed the "memrestrict 650117120" and it was much better with the popups. right now i saw that the "-" was missing! Will try again. So far: Its a loading problem. When nico leaves through the door in the first save house, the game still stutters a little when i look around. After that, i can look as much as i want. So i assume the game is loading stuff into memory. Still sometimes i have 10th of a second stops. But at least its some kind of playable. @jpm1 well some time it looked like it wouldnt run properly on the very lowest levels with 800x600 res. Right know it looks that i can seriously play again. Considering my former box where GTA4 did well and considering the smashing graphics of Battlefield3 i am quite anoyed. Edited September 9, 2012 by HomerNarr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpm1 Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 you hardware is largely enough to play in very good conditions . there's obviously a prob somewhere . you should have a look at this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomerNarr Posted September 9, 2012 Author Share Posted September 9, 2012 OK, i am gonna check this out. ATM i will take a break. testing for hours now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoreLegend Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Am I the only one who has 50-60 FPS and still stutters? Anyway try Gamebooster It closes all the unnecessary programs that are active so your games will perform better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpm1 Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Am I the only one who has 50-60 FPS and still stutters?Anyway try Gamebooster It closes all the unnecessary programs that are active so your games will perform better try rebuilding all the img files you modified with open iv . and check if you don't have a conflict between scripts too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. John Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Wow, I never saw any OP like you telling your problem in detail. Anyways, your PC looks fine playing the game on Med-Hig. Turn off the Shadows, lower the vehicle density to 20 and turn off the VSync. Also, try my tips. They come very handy. I think you will get 20+ FPS after trying my tips. Do a defragmenting after you re-install the game as the game will take 16 GB of your Memory. Check your background applications. Some unwanted anti-viruses are maybe running. Close them. Also, go to "Start->Run->Type "msconfig"->Go to services and disable "Windows Event Log" and some other unwanted programs." You need to stabilize your PC for running GTA 4 so try to run GTA 4 for a couple of times. Then, it will play smoother. I try this for every application so that I don't get them hanged. Don't give full stress on your PC when running GTA 4. I mean like switching out to Desktop in the middle of game, running useless applications while playing GTA 4 or attaching any Multimedia like Ipod, etc., to the computer. Also, don't ever forget that GTA 4 isn't customized for PC well so you may still find lags after trying all these methods. Don't get angry, live with it like you are going to live with your wife (When you get married). I gave a detail post because you gave one. Hope this helps you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prometheus Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Don't get angry, live with it like you are going to live with your wife (When you get married). OP's divorced, can't you read Those tips John, are for Low/Medium end PCs. But in his case, typically he should be able to max out the game with a smooth framerate. The problem here is quite different. HomerNarr, did you update your GPU driver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dansgas1000 Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 probably the low VRAM. Maybe try a GTX 660 ti, they are even better than a GTX 580 and are very cheap, you could sell that 570 for the same amount of money as buying a GTX 660 ti AND having a performance upgrade at the same time on scan.co.uk a EVGA 570 is £210 and a gigabyte GTX 660 Ti is £230 so thats pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prometheus Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 probably the low VRAM. Maybe try a GTX 660 ti, they are even better than a GTX 580 and are very cheap, you could sell that 570 for the same amount of money as buying a GTX 660 ti AND having a performance upgrade at the same time Again there is no problem with the hardware, the VRAM isn't low at all. He could max out the game at 40FPS easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dansgas1000 Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 probably the low VRAM. Maybe try a GTX 660 ti, they are even better than a GTX 580 and are very cheap, you could sell that 570 for the same amount of money as buying a GTX 660 ti AND having a performance upgrade at the same time Again there is no problem with the hardware, the VRAM isn't low at all. He could max out the game at 40FPS easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. John Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Don't get angry, live with it like you are going to live with your wife (When you get married). OP's divorced, can't you read Those tips John, are for Low/Medium end PCs. But in his case, typically he should be able to max out the game with a smooth framerate. The problem here is quite different. HomerNarr, did you update your GPU driver? Oh God, why? Nice trolling, bro. Yeas, I gave those times for Low End PCs and I know he can max out the game pretty well but there is no harsh in giving them, are there? But, anyways, the game still stutters in High Settings so I would suggest him to go lower his settings as it won't make any difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpm1 Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 probably the low VRAM. Maybe try a GTX 660 ti, they are even better than a GTX 580 and are very cheap, you could sell that 570 for the same amount of money as buying a GTX 660 ti AND having a performance upgrade at the same time Again there is no problem with the hardware, the VRAM isn't low at all. He could max out the game at 40FPS easily. agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unc13bud Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 try these settings. set medium graphics and work your way up vehicle slider is set to 1 Statistics Average FPS: 30.80 Duration: 32.69 sec CPU Usage: 95% System memory usage: 85% Video memory usage: 45% Graphics Settings Video Mode: 1920 x 1200 (60 Hz) Texture Quality: High Shadow Quality: Low Reflection Resolution: High Water Quality: Very High Texture Filter Quality: Anisotropic x4 Night Shadows: Off View Distance: 25 Detail Distance: 31 Hardware Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Service Pack 1 Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GT 640 Video Driver version: 301.42 Audio Adapter: Speakers (Creative SB X-Fi) AMD Phenom II X4 975 Processor File ID: TBoGT-Benchmark.cli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomerNarr Posted September 10, 2012 Author Share Posted September 10, 2012 Just a fast reply since i have to get up early and in the evening i get very tired. I didn't mention since i gave detailed info, but of course the first thing i did, was assuring, that i've got the latest drivers. I was thinking about my soundcard, since its the oldest component in the system. Every thing got faster, cpu / mainboard / memory and of course gpu. the X-Fi is older than around 4 years old. And no Mods also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpm1 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 4 years isn't museum hardware neither Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HornBasher62 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Did you installed your Gta on ssd? If so try putting it on hdd and see if that helps, and as far as I know you shouldn't defragment your ssd as other member suggested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unc13bud Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 "the X-Fi is older than around 4 years old." and gta 4 came out in 2008, which is why rockstar only does technical support on xp3 and vista gat 4 installations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkey82 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 I have a suggestion and a question: 1. how fresh is your OS installation? Have you changed any hardware after you did your last fresh install? 2. have you tried taking that sound card out? GTAIV is known to have some problems with sound cards and what you're experiencing sounds a lot like a conflict in the background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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