SPMovies Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Where do you get a million people dead omgz? What resources were stolen? You're so stupid and uneducated. Last I checked the real number was somewhere around 50,000 total between NATO/terroists/civilians, and it's not the US's fault terroists are un-uniformed and stick with civilians. You pick a war, you get it. Don't paint the USA as some big, horrible nation just because you have a blind hatred for America. Shut the f*ck up and know facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omgz153 Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Sure i'll admit that the death toll was actually around 200,000 but I was referring to other conflicts brought on by the us as well. The stealing of resources is unfortunately true and the United States have been doing it for quite some time now through different methods, one of them being forcing a country into debt and then buying their resources at unreasonably low prices. The men that you call terrorists are just people who want to defend their country from the invader. I think the soldiers currently stationed in Afghanistan suit the title "terrorist". Just because some assholes decided to bomb your precious buildings doesn't mean you have to destroy their country of origin whilst killing 200,000 people, dickhead. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAn-QwRSoUk That's what happens when you accept thousands of nutcases into your army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabeRuth Posted September 9, 2012 Author Share Posted September 9, 2012 Not sad at all. And the prick of the day award goes to... He's Canadian expect his/that kind of attitude. It's funny that your're saying that when the united states is probably the most hated country in the world at the moment. Your Government exploited such a horrible event by attacking an innocent country and killing almost a million people while also stealing valuable resources and in the process killing or injuring thousands of your own soldiers. That's why my dear friend, I don't find it sad. You are abosolutely right. So if Toranto or Ottawa got bombed you guys wouldn't do [email protected] about it? We sure as hell wouldn't of raped pillaged and stole from "the country responsible for it". Oh and it's spelled Toronto not "Toranto" Sorry I spelled the word wrong. I don't think we're all that bad, we helped out S Korea in the war, i will admit what we did to Japan was wrong. Just curious do you have any American friends? or is there part American in your nationalities; do you also have a passport to the U.S.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumbassbuffet Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Where do you get a million people dead omgz? What resources were stolen? You're so stupid and uneducated. Last I checked the real number was somewhere around 50,000 total between NATO/terroists/civilians, and it's not the US's fault terroists are un-uniformed and stick with civilians. You pick a war, you get it. Don't paint the USA as some big, horrible nation just because you have a blind hatred for America. Shut the f*ck up and know facts. I'm sorry, but your post gave me cancer. anywho. reading up on the last two pages, I find this to be relevant (sorry for the crappy video) I am usually quite PC but I really feel that 9/11 has just become a circle jerk of "I'm a better Human than you because 9/11" for most people, Not people who were directly affected by it). I mean, here we are; 11 years later, 2 wars later, hundreds of thousands of soldiers later, hundreds of thousands of civilians later, the Americans got their man (though I don't feel good when I think about how they treated the corpse). All of this has happened since then, yet members of the media, politicians, and a good percentage of the American population put on the post 9/11 elitism spheil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Hellraiser Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 (edited) The fact that this whole country is still crying over this is mind-blowing... It was 11 years ago. The fact that Al-Queda is watching us cry our asses off eleven years later and doing nothing about it is just adding fuel to the fire. They are not afraid of us. They are nearly confirmend to have nukes, which means the US is basically a ticking atom bomb if we continue to pull people out of the Middle-East. The whole basis of the Cold War was: Soviet Union: We have nukes, we can nuke the Americans. US: We have nukes too, if you shoot, so do we. Soviet Union: Oh yeah, we don't want that... If you don't shoot, we won't shoot. US: Fine by us. The problem with Al-Queda having nukes is this: Al-Queda: We have nukes, we can nuke the Americans. US: We have nukes too, if you shoot, so do we. Al-Queda: But if we all die killing you Infidels, we go to heaven and get our 72 virgins. Go ahead. Nuke us. We don't care, we want to die for our religion US: Let's take our soldiers out of there. We can't afford to stay there... (which is true by the way) Al-Queda: Oh, so you are leaving... You are scared, are you? More the reason to kill you. Make sense? The government has their heads in the the dirt, and are going to get kicked in the ass if they don't wake up. I expect to die in the near future, very slowly, of radiation poisoning, when a nuke destroys Cleveland and leaves my town a toxic no-go zone... EDIT: You know what I am going to do on my 9/11? I will play Armored Kill on BF3, and blow up Russians in my C-130... Edited September 9, 2012 by fatal1ty619 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omgz153 Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 (edited) Just curious do you have any American friends? or is there part American in your nationalities; do you also have a passport to the U.S.? Don't get me wrong but yes I do have american friends, I've been to the US on multiple occasions, and I watch american television. I am not a person who is obsessed with hating america as SPMovies has painted me to be but instead I just don't agree with some of the things the Bush/and Obama administrations have done or are currently doing on an international level. Edited September 9, 2012 by omgz153 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryuclan Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 The fact that this whole country is still crying over this is mind-blowing... It was 11 years ago. The fact that Al-Queda is watching us cry our asses off eleven years later and doing nothing about it is just adding fuel to the fire. They are not afraid of us. They are nearly confirmend to have nukes, which means the US is basically a ticking atom bomb if we continue to pull people out of the Middle-East. The whole basis of the Cold War was: Soviet Union: We have nukes, we can nuke the Americans. US: We have nukes too, if you shoot, so do we. Soviet Union: Oh yeah, we don't want that... If you don't shoot, we won't shoot. US: Fine by us. The problem with Al-Queda having nukes is this: Al-Queda: We have nukes, we can nuke the Americans. US: We have nukes too, if you shoot, so do we. Al-Queda: But if we all die killing you Infidels, we go to heaven and get our 72 virgins. Go ahead. Nuke us. We don't care, we want to die for our religion US: Let's take our soldiers out of there. We can't afford to stay there... (which is true by the way) Al-Queda: Oh, so you are leaving... You are scared, are you? More the reason to kill you. Make sense? The government has their heads in the the dirt, and are going to get kicked in the ass if they don't wake up. I expect to die in the near future, very slowly, of radiation poisoning, when a nuke destroys Cleveland and leaves my town a toxic no-go zone... I'm sorry, but you think they would waste a nuke on Cleveland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Hellraiser Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 I'm sorry, but you think they would waste a nuke on Cleveland? They aren't going to take out a single city... They want us 'Muricans dead. If they come after us, they aren't going to use just one... They will likely have a few, and take multiple large cities. LA, Chicago, New York (again), Detroit, Miami, Minneapolis, Cleveland, etc. Just one of many... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omgz153 Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 The fact that this whole country is still crying over this is mind-blowing... It was 11 years ago. The fact that Al-Queda is watching us cry our asses off eleven years later and doing nothing about it is just adding fuel to the fire. They are not afraid of us. They are nearly confirmend to have nukes, which means the US is basically a ticking atom bomb if we continue to pull people out of the Middle-East That's the stupidest thing I've heard all day... Al-Queda does not have nukes and will never have nukes. I suggest you should be more worried about the fact that Israel currently has nukes and is getting mighty agitated with Iran... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Hellraiser Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 The fact that this whole country is still crying over this is mind-blowing... It was 11 years ago. The fact that Al-Queda is watching us cry our asses off eleven years later and doing nothing about it is just adding fuel to the fire. They are not afraid of us. They are nearly confirmend to have nukes, which means the US is basically a ticking atom bomb if we continue to pull people out of the Middle-East That's the stupidest thing I've heard all day... Al-Queda does not have nukes and will never have nukes. I suggest you should be more worried about the fact that Israel currently has nukes and is getting mighty agitated with Iran... I suggest you learn that Israel is on our side, and is also a target of Al-Queda... Al-Queda wants to kill Infidels (by definition, Christians, Jews, and anyone else who disagrees with extremist Muslims) America fits that description... So does Israel, U.K., France, generally all Eastern Europe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omgz153 Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 The fact that this whole country is still crying over this is mind-blowing... It was 11 years ago. The fact that Al-Queda is watching us cry our asses off eleven years later and doing nothing about it is just adding fuel to the fire. They are not afraid of us. They are nearly confirmend to have nukes, which means the US is basically a ticking atom bomb if we continue to pull people out of the Middle-East That's the stupidest thing I've heard all day... Al-Queda does not have nukes and will never have nukes. I suggest you should be more worried about the fact that Israel currently has nukes and is getting mighty agitated with Iran... I suggest you learn that Israel is on our side, and is also a target of Al-Queda... Al-Queda wants to kill Infidels (by definition, Christians, Jews, and anyone else who disagrees with extremist Muslims) America fits that description... So does Israel, U.K., France, generally all Eastern Europe... If Israel attacked Iran with nuclear weapons then most countries associated with Iran (or countries with economic ties with iran like Russia) would probably retaliate thus creating a nuclear holocaust worldwide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Hellraiser Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 The fact that this whole country is still crying over this is mind-blowing... It was 11 years ago. The fact that Al-Queda is watching us cry our asses off eleven years later and doing nothing about it is just adding fuel to the fire. They are not afraid of us. They are nearly confirmend to have nukes, which means the US is basically a ticking atom bomb if we continue to pull people out of the Middle-East That's the stupidest thing I've heard all day... Al-Queda does not have nukes and will never have nukes. I suggest you should be more worried about the fact that Israel currently has nukes and is getting mighty agitated with Iran... I suggest you learn that Israel is on our side, and is also a target of Al-Queda... Al-Queda wants to kill Infidels (by definition, Christians, Jews, and anyone else who disagrees with extremist Muslims) America fits that description... So does Israel, U.K., France, generally all Eastern Europe... If Israel attacked Iran with nuclear weapons then most countries associated with Iran (or countries with economic ties with iran like Russia) would probably retaliate thus creating a nuclear holocaust worldwide. Remember what I just said about the Cold War: Russia: We have nukes, we can nuke Israel. US: We have nukes too, if you shoot, so do we. Russia: Oh yeah, we don't want that... If you don't shoot, we won't shoot. US: Fine by us. The only ones who don't care about dying, and have nothing to lose, are the members of Al-Queda... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabeRuth Posted September 9, 2012 Author Share Posted September 9, 2012 Just curious do you have any American friends? or is there part American in your nationalities; do you also have a passport to the U.S.? Don't get me wrong but yes I do have american friends, I've been to the US on multiple occasions, and I watch american television. I am not a person who is obsessed with hating america as SPMovies has painted me to be but instead I just don't agree with some of the things the Bush/and Obama administrations have done or are currently doing on an international level. I never did like Bush. Our Television is poor, shows like JERSEY SHORE, SOUTH PARK, only teach the kids bad things, it's sad the way our society turned out . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EscoLehGo Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 You think South Park is bad for kids? South Park was a cornerstone of my childhood, how dare you suggest that it corrupts the youth and I'm not your buddy, guy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabeRuth Posted September 9, 2012 Author Share Posted September 9, 2012 Do you have kids? do you want them to say the word "f*ck"? Sorry for cursing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryuclan Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Do you have kids? do you want them to say the word "f*ck"? Sorry for cursing. Well seeing how you cant say f*ck on tv i dont see how the two correspond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EscoLehGo Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Dude, that's the whole point of the dialogue in South Park, it depicts how kids that age speak to one another when no adults are around. I cursed like a sailor with my friends in elementary and middle school and we discussed things kids shouldn't be discussing, it's a part of being a boy in America, that is if you went to public school anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kifflom112 Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 (edited) I honestly don't give a f*ck, I mean it was so long ago now. Plus I'm Muslim and hate America, third good that they killed 100's, f*ck everyone who thinks it was bad. lol, have fun with your opinions... IQ dropped from reading this post. Weird how I was only 3 and I remember that horrible day. I remember seeing the plane crashes on TV. Edited September 9, 2012 by Kifflom112 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Hellraiser Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 I honestly don't give a f*ck, I mean it was so long ago now. Plus I'm Muslim and hate America, third good that they killed 100's, f*ck everyone who thinks it was bad. lol, have fun with your opinions... IQ dropped from reading this post. Exactly the point I was trying to get across a few posts up. They hate 'Murica... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabeRuth Posted September 9, 2012 Author Share Posted September 9, 2012 Dude, that's the whole point of the dialogue in South Park, it depicts how kids that age speak to one another when no adults are around. I cursed like a sailor with my friends in elementary and middle school and we discussed things kids shouldn't be discussing, it's a part of being a boy in America, that is if you went to public school anyways. True.... We're all raised differently, i was raised to be nice, respectful, & not to curse. But lets not go there we'd be off topic. lets get back on topic shall we . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EscoLehGo Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Ah man, this topic went off the rails a quarter in through the first page. I was raised that way as well, but when I was just with my peers as a child all of that cultured sh*t went out of the window which is what South Park is all about, guy. You can't lump it in with terrible reality television, it's a more often than not hilarious critique of American society. You should give it another try, pal. They even have one episode where Osama Bin Laden is mocked pretty heavily and is revealed to have a micro penis, I think you'd be interested in that, buddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icarus Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Ah man, this topic went off the rails a quarter in through the first page. Surely you should have seen that coming a mile away. It happens every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA_stu Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 I know everyone bangs on about 9/11, but it is arguably the single most important event which has impacted the world since a young Bosnian-Serb fired into a car and killed the heir to the Austro-Hungarian throne. Or maybe I'm just being melodramatic, but still, it is a f*cking important part of recent history and although it happened 11 years ago it's still incredibly relevant to current day. Not to mention the actual things which happened that day, and more precisely, planes flying into 2 of the tallest buildings in the world and their resulting collapse, will be forever remembered like nothing which has come before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sivispacem Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 and killing almost a million Actually, the comparative numbers killed directly by combat action by NATO forces were far, far lower- many magnitudes lower- than those who have been killed by the insurgencies and internal struggle. Ergo, it's factually incorrect to claim that these people were killed by the United States as their deaths, despite being an indirect result of the poor strategic and operational planning of both conflicts, were caused by violent non-state actors not allied with the foreign powers; ergo they can hold little to no responsibility for these. The stealing of resources is unfortunately true If it's true, you'll be able to substantiate it with evidence. I can contradict it with evidence- Afghanistan despite having quite large natural resource reserves is very inhospitable and most of these are not exploitable in any meaningful way, and certainly not without the cost implications rendering the entire exercise futile. Iraq has pretty vast oil reserves- recently it became the second largest oil exporter in the OPEC nations- but the majority of Iraqi oil wells are owned and operated by Russian and Chinese companies, so the idea that the US has been profiteering from it's resource wealth is entirely false. The men that you call terrorists are just people who want to defend their country from the invader. Partially true in the case of Afghanistan- many of the combatants there are what are referred to as "accidental guerillas"- people who've become embroiled in the conflict because of family relationships, history, or really just because fighting is a way of life there. Certainly not entirely true in Afghanistan, or at all true in Iraq, where the majority of violent actions have been committed by factional religious and political groups against civilian targets. The distinction between an organisation merely trying to defend their country, and a terrorist one, is the chosen targets. Attacking an invading force can be seen as somewhat legitimate. Attacking one's own police, military and political structure is also somewhat legitimate, though more arguable given the context. Attacking civilians based upon their religious sect (much of the fatalities in Iraq have been results of Sunni versus Shia sectarian violent- far surpassing the direct casualties of the conflict) is terrorism. I think the soldiers currently stationed in Afghanistan suit the title "terrorist". State actors cannot be terrorists, because the very definition of terrorism prescribes that they are non-state actors. Terrorist organisations largely depend on external state actors (the "state sponsors") to operate, but operate independently; thus it is incorrect to allege that members of any national armed force, regardless of you inane dislike of them, are terrorists, because all it demonstrates is that you don't understand what a terrorist is. AMD Ryzen 5900X (4.65GHz All-Core PBO2) | Gigabye X570S Pro | 32GB G-Skill Trident Z RGB 3600MHz CL16 EK-Quantum Reflection D5 | XSPC D5 PWM | TechN/Heatkiller Blocks | HardwareLabs GTS & GTX 360 Radiators Corsair AX750 | Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic XL | EVGA GeForce RTX2080 XC @2055MHz | Sabrant Rocket Plus 1TB Sabrant Rocket 2TB | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB | 2x ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q | Q Acoustics 2010i | Sabaj A4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferocious Banger Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Okay. All I can do is typing "R.I."P RIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjimino234 Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 personally I'm a little tired of it already. yes it was sad and yes it was tragic and yet it shouldn't have happened.although I wasn't directly affected, to be perfectly honest. and so I tend to agree with Bill Maher when he says that our obsession with 9/11 is kind of pathetic. when a thousand Americans die, America acts like it's the most tragic event ever that we should never ever forget ever. never ever. ever never. we raise monuments and sing songs and cry rivers of tears and stop everything we're doing to pray and watch TV specials and listen to speeches. ugh. meanwhile, hundreds of innocent civilians die every few months (thousands every year) in Iraq and/or Afghanistan thanks directly to the wars that we started there. wars that were not even necessary. wars that were started under false pretenses and attacked the people who didn't actually attack us. Iraq and Afghanistan were not responsible for 9/11. but no one sheds a tear for them aside from their own families. the media in this country completely ignores the civilian death toll. no songs, no monuments, no crying, no TV specials, no speeches. such utter hypocrisy. the irony would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad. I completely agree, being from Australia too I'm even more distant from it but the U.S sure likes to remember 9/11 to either complain/be patriotic/use it as to argue the war against terrorism .etc. I felt many people from what I've seen is "AMERICA, greatest nation in the world got attacked - now sh*ts going down." sort of thing where I know there are other more current issues in the middle east. I'm not trying to be out of line but Australia is indirectly involved with your war and many people are upset about it, why are Australian troops fighting in a war that's not ours, we're simply there to help but many don't justify that as a reason for Australian's involvement. But hey, I really know what's happening in these foreign affairs and what the deal is with Afganistan and Iraq, just my two cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanhunter_rfc Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 As a Brit, who has no friends or family in the war, I feel so "disconnected" from the whole thing. Anyone else feel this way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn 7 five 11 Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 I thought it was the 9th of the 11th...you're two months off buddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dr. John Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 I thought it was the 9th of the 11th...you're two months off buddy. Most of the countries would think that way because they have a different Date and Time system. But, to go with my country's Date specification, it's 11/9, i.e. 11th September, which, I think it too early to talk about. Anyways, we can remember sorrow anytime but we can't celebrate joy every time. Eg- Nobody celebrates Christmas every day. That would be foolishness but we can remember those sad moments happened with us or anyone. This would give happiness to the victims. So here I go, RIP all the people who were killed in that incident. Oh, and also, please don't start babbling about my post. I was just being a normal member. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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