Police Radar Circle? should it change?

[Kent Traffic Cop]

 

 

We got a 10-24 in Northeast Vice Beach...

 

 

 

The old ways are the best 

Well yeah, but that doesn't explain why it's better. I think the fact most open world games adopt the search radius proves it's a better alternative, but of course it wasn't GTA IV's idea. I believe Scarface used it first.

 

While it's not entirely realistic from logic it makes sense having a search radius instead of the cops relentlessly trying to eat the protagongist's head only to stop because the car colour changed.

Of course it does.

 

I used to be a cop... you don't just give up looking for a suspect because they've moved out of a 100 meter radius! The radius expands with time. Obviously, the severity of the crime dictates how long you look for someone.

 

And a car colour / plate change is very realistic in terms of looking for someone. If I was told to look out for a white Ford, I'd completely ignore any black / blue / orange ones because that's not what the description is. The problem with Pay 'N' Spray is that the idea is ridiculous.... it takes days to respray a car!

 

They should use the old Driver / Driver 2 method, whereby a vehicle attains a "Felony" level. That way, you'd have to switch cars completely in order to avoid the police.

 

 

 

In all honesty, the system will never be "realistic" - the police would NEVER give up on hunting a murder suspect. If you killed someone in real life, your face would be known and you'd be hunted regardless of clothes / vehicle!

[sclodyon]

I say keep it the same as IV, but if you are in the radius and can't be seen by the cops, after around 30-40 seconds the wanted level should go away. I mean, how did the cops know if you'd escaped the search radius or not?

[Starz]

Don't know if it was just me but I found it really hard evading cops when I had 3 stars+.

 

Something needs to change about that.

[Raynos]

I say keep it the same as IV, but if you are in the radius and can't be seen by the cops, after around 30-40 seconds the wanted level should go away. I mean, how did the cops know if you'd escaped the search radius or not?

A simple answer to a complex question.

Once you are "wanted" the police shoot your car with a GPS tracer dart. Then depending on your wanted level, they assign a search radius.

Once you leave this search radius, they realize that you're amazing and chose to ignore your crimes.

 

OT.

As I said before, something similar to Driver but a hybrid system would do it justice.

All cop cars have a Cone of vision. If you avoid it and switch cars, or change your LICENSE plate and Face, you should be ok. Maybe the cops still pull you over, but let you go after a check on your license plate and description.

[J-B]

Radius system with improvements all the way. The cops themselves need be more aggressive at two stars and up. They need to be riding your ass at every possible moment depending on what car you're in.

 

In IV the choppers were too slow. They need to be much faster and aggressive to keep up with the players that are in fast cars. Although I think we saw something like this in the "business" screenshots.

 

The player needs to be more encouraged to break the sight line with cops with good tactics rather than just punching it in a straight line

 

 

I can agree with ideas from The Warriors and Manhunt; I think they could work well, actually.

 

How would the radius work in the countryside?

Well I'd assume they'd make it easy to lose the lower wanted levels in the countryside but once the choppers start to show up it'd be much harder to lose them out there in the open.

Edited September 5, 2012 by J-B

[TageAndreas]

I think gta iv would be better if you could get away from the cops by hiding, even within the search zone, as long as they don't see you or the path you took.

 

It would also be nice if some police officers try to arrest you without calling you in first, now we should be able to stealthy f*ck up the cop and no wanted

stars gained.

[DS 17]

If noone has seen me turned around the corner I don't want the cops knowing where I actually am. So I just want to hide myself in a dark place or somewhere when they didn't see me and want to loose my wanted level after that in the same place, so the radar should go with the cops and not with the player.

[JoeJoeMcTwist]

@J-B

 

I like your idea, and it makes sense why some people were mentioning the old ways of the GTAIII era. I remember cop ai was more aggressive, challenging and they actually tried to ram you off the road. That's what made the cop chases thrilling.

 

In 4, even though I liked the fact at first that you didn't have to keep driving to the same pay'n spray to lose cops, they lacked in challenge. The system needs to be tweaked so the suspense of the chase is there. Someone mentioned the cops should use pit maneuvers and such. That would add much needed challenge because you would actually have to think fast and avoid them trying to box you in.

[fastetshot]

GTA IV way is the best . III era was very unrealistic IMO.

 

[thebig]

 

If noone has seen me turned around the corner I don't want the cops knowing where I actually am. So I just want to hide myself in a dark place or somewhere when they didn't see me and want to loose my wanted level after that in the same place, so the radar should go with the cops and not with the player.

I think it would be too easy if they let the radius move with the cops. Then you just have to find a place and wait until they're gone. The middle of the radius should always be were you were last signalated. So if you are in sight of the cops, the radius moves along with you. When you're out of sight, you can finally escape the radius.

The realism thinking about this radius is that the police thinks you can impossibly escape it without being seen. So they assume that you're in the radius.

 

 

the police would NEVER give up on hunting a murder suspect. If you killed someone in real life, your face would be known and you'd be hunted regardless of clothes / vehicle!

Well, after some years without finding the murderer, it's impossible to sue them. I think it's 30/40 years in my country. When this period is over, the murderer can just scream out loud that he killed the victim, but they can't do anything.

 

So maybe it would be good if you can wear a balaclava and the police can't link what you've done with you. When you forget to wear it, they put it in your rapport.

Though that would mean you would wear a balaclava the whole time :s

[Kent Traffic Cop]

 

GTA IV way is the best . III era was very unrealistic IMO.

How was it unrealistic?

 

You're saying that driving a straight line to get out of a circle is more realistic than being chased all over the city?

 

If you watch programmes like "World's Scariest Police Chases" you will see people doing exactly that - driving down a 3 / 4 lane road at 100mph... and guess what? They still get chased. Cops don't just give up searching, they use common sense: if you're in a car, chances are you're not going to be in the same area after 2 minutes... the search radius would be expanded!

 

A completely new system should be adopted. The perfect system would be a mix between Driver's "Felony" and Metal Gear Solid's "Escape and Evade."

 

 

- Vehicles retain their wanted level (unless plates, colour, etc are changed) even after you have "lost" the cops. If it's spotted again, police would automatically start chasing it. This is Driver's "Felony" method.

 

- The player should have to lie low for a "cooling off period" (or change clothes, as that's an option in GTA) while the cops give up their search. This is Metal Gear Solid's "Escape and Evade" method.

 

 

 

In all honesty, it's been far too easy to lose the cops in all GTA games.