To kill kids or not kill kids

[junkpile]

And wouldn't having kids, pets, wildlife, lifelike animations, people groaning after being shot help to give us an even more believable realistic setting? I mean Houser said he wasn't going to stop until he recreated a living breathing real world.

 

 

I know it probably wont happen, at least for a long time, because of media and loud special interest groups, but still saying it shouldn't be there for a 'moral', or whatever, reason just seems.. stupid.

Houser said that? Well then, R* should try bring on something like that.

If it is a breathing city, you might have your breathing pedophiles, child molesters and everything in it.

 

But then I ask myself, if the game needs it. I like the difference between reality and video games. Gee, got me on that one, I can't run around slaughter kids in reality.

 

But seriously: sure it should be considered, but in my opinion, GTA V doesn't need that option. Maybe another game in the makings, called "Equal to reality, feel free to do everything you can't do in real life due to legal issues."

 

GTA games always had a plot, your character following a storyline. We get R*'s code of morality offered, but inbetween we slaughter plenty of kids just to come to an end wanting Kate/return to the Marston farm/sip a beer on the beach in south america.

 

It's quite disturbing. But while typing, "bold new direction", not? Let's see if there will be (killable) children pedestrians.

[Simon_V]

Voted for Yes ^_^, but I'm sure it will NOT happen.

[SonofUgly]

Killing adults is quite different than killing kids. Yes, at the end of the day, muder is murder, but killing kids is a much worse crime, which is reflected with the tougher punishments handed out to child murderers/rapists.

 

Saying all that, it still beggers belief how some of you could happily slaughter a representation of a child in a game. Maybe when you have kids you'll think differently. I hope anyway, otherwise I suggest you pay the doctor a visit.

And that's all it is, a fictitious representation, a slurry of data points in a made up 3D space. Who cares if killing a kid is a worse crime when you're playing a video game - I'm sure flying a plane into a building is an even worse crime, yet I've done that in GTA. Why draw the line at kids? This is just a video game, is it really that bad?

[junkpile]

 

I'm sure flying a plane into a building is an even worse crime, yet I've done that in GTA. Why draw the line at kids? This is just a video game, is it really that bad?

 

Because it's stigmatized by the media. Our society has limits. And as many people, or better yet, players can differ between reality and a video game, the media will pick this up.

It's a limit given by an universial morality code which simply exists.

 

I'm glad that the amount of gore and blood is already as it is, like in GTA IV, RDR or MAX PAYNE III. If GTA V would include the option to kill children, you can surely say goodbye to the franchise since the media will come down damn heavy on it and freedom in video games itself.

[PureGold]

I don't give a f*ck if they are fictional or not, if you want to kill kids you're a f*cking weirdo. Period

 

And if you want to kill adults you're perfectly normal?

Yes, adults get killed all the time in real life.

Killing kids isn't that common and doesn't happen everyday in real life.

Only sick freaks would wish to harm a kid, even fictional ones.

Happens often = makes it okay? Wow, strong f*cking logic. Children being killed is pretty common, you would know that if you knew that life existed outside of your own country and the USA. Yea really they are just pixels on a screen. You aren't any more of a sick freak for shooting the short peds than you are the tall ones. If killing adults isn't sick go ahead and try it in real life. I bet the word "sick" will get used a lot in your trial.

 

Oh and I'm sorry your still so deluded about the protagonist of V.

[Smith John]

@spiderman3000

 

Niko wasn't a child killer, so....

 

@SonofUgly

 

Lets just leave it like this:

 

-You'd take pleasure in slaughtering children in video games

-I wouldn't take pleasure in slaughtering children in video games.

[Andreas]

There is already a topic about this: Click! The idea to kill children's is sick but I remember that in one scene of CoD MW3 a child dies. Here's the video:

 

[Algonquin Assassin]

I would only want children in the game like senior citizens are to make it feel more alive. GTA IV's LC was such an awesome environment, but something felt off seeing all those empty playgrounds.

 

Aslong as R* don't make it an objective I don't see the problem. However I think I'd feel uncomfortable if it was a mission, but it wouldn't bother me if it was my own choice. That may sound strange, but I believe it's very different when you're forced to do something than doing it out of your own free will.

 

I'll try and use an analogy. If you were forced to rob a bank you'd probably think how wrong it is, but if you made the decision yourself you'd probably not give it a second thought. Basically if children could be harmed as long as they're not directly involved with the story they'd just be regular peds where players can make their own mind what they want to do.

Edited August 16, 2012 by Miamivicecity

[PureGold]

One more thing: Watch a video of skyrim killable children mod on youtube. Can anyone honestly say they get any emotional response or feel bad whatsoever? It's meaningless. If it actually invokes emotions in you but killing adults or anything else doesn't, you are the one who is messed up.

[Smith John]

One more thing: Watch a video of skyrim killable children mod on youtube. Can anyone honestly say they get any emotional response or feel bad whatsoever? It's meaningless. If it actually invokes emotions in you but killing adults or anything else doesn't, you are the one who is messed up.

Wait...what? Somebody actually created a mod specifically so they could kill children?

 

This planet is f*cked........

[faizanali]

Ages 12

If not 12 then 15

we've seen Teens in GTA IV so i expect them to return in GTA V as well but who the hell cares atleast we're getting Animals

i wonder who hates killing/eating animals.

[junkpile]

@spiderman3000

 

Niko wasn't a child killer, so....

 

@SonofUgly

 

Lets just leave it like this:

 

-You'd take pleasure in slaughtering children in video games

-I wouldn't take pleasure in slaughtering children in video games.

I dunno if he's enjoying it or sees the pleasure in doing it. He says slaying children isn't any sicker than slaying adults.

So again, it comes down to the limits given by society and the media.

 

GTA V/Houser trying a more realistic approach, so why not add children as pedestrians? His logic is perfectly fine.

Still, it comes down to the mentioned stigma.

 

Take this whole fiscal thing, they predict a win, right? So we can forget about killing little children in GTA V.

[PureGold]

 

One more thing: Watch a video of skyrim killable children mod on youtube. Can anyone honestly say they get any emotional response or feel bad whatsoever? It's meaningless. If it actually invokes emotions in you but killing adults or anything else doesn't, you are the one who is messed up.

Wait...what? Somebody actually created a mod specifically so they could kill children?

 

This planet is f*cked........

Did you watch it? Tell me did you actually care that it was a fake kid being killed? An animated character with scripted lines and a script for everything he does. Just like any character but squashed down to a shorter height and with a higher voice. That's the only distinction between adults and kids in video games. Just asking btw.

 

I voted no for the poll because toddlers wouldn't work in a GTA game, they would have to be walking with their mothers and they would also keep falling over Takes up power that could be used for putting more adults on screen. The way I see it is: I wouldn't specifically target kids to kill but if I accidentally ran one over I wouldn't give a f*ck.

 

 

Edit: Would also allow you to role play, you could be like Scarface "No women or children"

Edited August 16, 2012 by PureGold

[Kratos2000]

To kill. It would increase the realism. I can imagine zooming through an intersection and wiping out a mother with a baby carriage.

Oh god forbids..

'Till I read his post I was sure having kids in the game is okay.

[Gtaghost22]

 

One more thing: Watch a video of skyrim killable children mod on youtube. Can anyone honestly say they get any emotional response or feel bad whatsoever? It's meaningless. If it actually invokes emotions in you but killing adults or anything else doesn't, you are the one who is messed up.

Wait...what? Somebody actually created a mod specifically so they could kill children?

 

This planet is f*cked........

Tell me about it..

Sick f*cks are trying to convince us it's ok to slaughter "fictional" kids too.

 

Happens often = makes it okay?

 

Yes, that's my f*cking logic.

 

Oh and I'm sorry your still so deluded about the protagonist of V.

 

talk about desperate...

 

To kill. It would increase the realism. I can imagine zooming through an intersection and wiping out a mother with a baby carriage.

Speaking of sick freaks....

Edited August 16, 2012 by Gtaghost22

[Smith John]

@spiderman3000

 

Niko wasn't a child killer, so....

 

@SonofUgly

 

Lets just leave it like this:

 

-You'd take pleasure in slaughtering children in video games

-I wouldn't take pleasure in slaughtering children in video games.

I dunno if he's enjoying it or sees the pleasure in doing it. He says slaying children isn't any sicker than slaying adults.

So again, it comes down to the limits given by society and the media.

 

GTA V/Houser trying a more realistic approach, so why not add children as pedestrians? His logic is perfectly fine.

Still, it comes down to the mentioned stigma.

 

Take this whole fiscal thing, they predict a win, right? So we can forget about killing little children in GTA V.

The thing is, I don't give a sh*t what the media/society tells me. Never have, never will.

 

It's in my nature to care for children more than adults. For example, if I were to see 2 people drowing - one an adult, the other a child - and I only had time to save one of them, I would automatically try to save the child without a second thought.

 

Seeing an injured child hurts me more than seeing an injured adult. It's maybe because I have a kid myself that I feel the way I do. When I was a teenager, I probably wouldn't give a sh*t about killing kids, but as you grow up, you look at things differently. Well I do anyway.

[Kifflom112]

The people get weirder and weirder everyday at this forum. "I wanna' put a bomb onto a bus and blow that bitch up" I mean, what the f*ck. I wouldn't care if kids were in GTA, but I'd really rather they not be. I guess some foo' is gonna' say, "They're just pixels, get off your high horse".

[ThisIsHorosho]

...nah...i don'\t give a single penny if i can kill kids in games or not...that doesn't affect me anyhow in real life so if i could fine...if not i could live with it... i have plenty of things to take care of rather then wasting my time on killing kids in video games...same goes to animals, unless we're talking about hunting mini-game...

[PureGold]

One more thing: Watch a video of skyrim killable children mod on youtube. Can anyone honestly say they get any emotional response or feel bad whatsoever? It's meaningless. If it actually invokes emotions in you but killing adults or anything else doesn't, you are the one who is messed up.

Wait...what? Somebody actually created a mod specifically so they could kill children?

 

This planet is f*cked........

Tell me about it..

Sick f*cks are trying to convince us it's ok to slaughter "fictional" kids too.

 

Happens often = makes it okay?

 

Yes, that's my f*cking logic.

 

Oh and I'm sorry your still so deluded about the protagonist of V.

 

talk about desperate...

 

To kill. It would increase the realism. I can imagine zooming through an intersection and wiping out a mother with a baby carriage.

Speaking of sick freaks....

Alright then, if that's your logic, what about rape? Any reason why rape shouldn't be in the game? Much more common than murder. Nice job ignoring almost my entire argument by the way. What an intelligent user.

[Kifflom112]

 

One more thing: Watch a video of skyrim killable children mod on youtube. Can anyone honestly say they get any emotional response or feel bad whatsoever? It's meaningless. If it actually invokes emotions in you but killing adults or anything else doesn't, you are the one who is messed up.

Wait...what? Somebody actually created a mod specifically so they could kill children?

 

This planet is f*cked........

Tell me about it..

Sick f*cks are trying to convince us it's ok to slaughter "fictional" kids too.

 

Happens often = makes it okay?

 

Yes, that's my f*cking logic.

 

Oh and I'm sorry your still so deluded about the protagonist of V.

 

talk about desperate...

 

To kill. It would increase the realism. I can imagine zooming through an intersection and wiping out a mother with a baby carriage.

Speaking of sick freaks....

Alright then, if that's your logic, what about rape? Any reason why rape shouldn't be in the game? Much more common than murder. Nice job ignoring almost my entire argument by the way. What an intelligent user.

Okay, now I can say anyone who would want rape is truly a sick f*ck. Rape isn't even funny. Ps.: Not directed to you unless you want it, but there was a post about rape.

 

Edit: On your original post, I wouldn't get any feel bad emotions, but I would think it's a bit too over the top, too weird, just, ugh.

 

VV Put them in for realism? That is the dumbest sh*t I ever heard. How is it realism. You barely see a 9 year old walking by himself on a street. Maybe teens, but kids, that ain't real.

Edited August 16, 2012 by Kifflom112

[wwinterj]

They should put them in the game for realism yes and let you kill them. I'd say let you kill them because it would be annoying driving down the side walk only to hit a brick wall (invincible kid). The same can be said for animals also.

 

R* would get a lot of stick for allowing kids in the game though so I don't think it'll happen. With that said R* seem to have more balls than most developers so who knows?

 

I don't see the difference in killing a kid or a adult. You are still taking a life. You may say the kid is defenceless but so are some adults. Killing someone no matter the age is still killing someone.

Edited August 16, 2012 by wwinterj

[ylm1024]

It's in my nature to care for children more than adults. For example, if I were to see 2 people drowing - one an adult, the other a child - and I only had time to save one of them, I would automatically try to save the child without a second thought.

 

f*cking hypocritical c*nts (who voted for NO): you people are pathetic you value a child's life more? if I were to be in a scenario where I could save the kid or myself I am saving myself. If you people want to play hero go ahead and get offed (murdered) morons.

 

codyr87: you must be kidding... you complain about the games cop killing/pedestrian killing - stop playing the game if you don't like it. The games title is Grand Theft Auto!!! what the f*ck were you expecting

Edited August 16, 2012 by ylm1024

[PureGold]

@spiderman3000

 

Niko wasn't a child killer, so....

 

@SonofUgly

 

Lets just leave it like this:

 

-You'd take pleasure in slaughtering children in video games

-I wouldn't take pleasure in slaughtering children in video games.

I dunno if he's enjoying it or sees the pleasure in doing it. He says slaying children isn't any sicker than slaying adults.

So again, it comes down to the limits given by society and the media.

 

GTA V/Houser trying a more realistic approach, so why not add children as pedestrians? His logic is perfectly fine.

Still, it comes down to the mentioned stigma.

 

Take this whole fiscal thing, they predict a win, right? So we can forget about killing little children in GTA V.

The thing is, I don't give a sh*t what the media/society tells me. Never have, never will.

 

It's in my nature to care for children more than adults. For example, if I were to see 2 people drowing - one an adult, the other a child - and I only had time to save one of them, I would automatically try to save the child without a second thought.

 

Seeing an injured child hurts me more than seeing an injured adult. It's maybe because I have a kid myself that I feel the way I do. When I was a teenager, I probably wouldn't give a sh*t about killing kids, but as you grow up, you look at things differently. Well I do anyway.

Sure that isn't because the kid would weigh less? Seriously though, I'm sure most people are "hurt" more when they see an injured child more than an injured adult. But this is a VIDEO GAME. The kids aren't real. If the graphics were photo realistic or something maybe I'd understand.

 

This forum needs a large dose of George Carlin, seriously.

[Gtaghost22]

 

Alright then, if that's your logic, what about rape? Any reason why rape shouldn't be in the game? Much more common than murder. Nice job ignoring almost my entire argument by the way. What an intelligent user. 

Sarcasm. Ever heard of it?

 

Stop trying to convince us that killing kids and rape is the same as killing adults, because it's not.

 

It's not the same in real-life and it's not the same in video games, no matter how much weirdos like you try to spin it.

 

you value a child's life more?

Yes.

[PureGold]

 

Okay, now I can say anyone who would want rape is truly a sick f*ck. Rape isn't even funny. Ps.: Not directed to you unless you want it, but there was a post about rape.

 

Edit: On your original post, I wouldn't get any feel bad emotions, but I would think it's a bit too over the top, too weird, just, ugh.

I don't. But that is GTAghost22's entire argument. That the murder of adults happens a lot which makes it okay. Preschooler logic really.

 

 

Alright then, if that's your logic, what about rape? Any reason why rape shouldn't be in the game? Much more common than murder. Nice job ignoring almost my entire argument by the way. What an intelligent user. 

Sarcasm. Ever heard of it?

 

Stop trying to convince us that killing kids and rape is the same as killing adults, because it's not.

 

It's not the same in real-life and it's not the same in video games, no matter how much weirdos like you try to spin it. 

 

It is the same in a video game, I'm sorry that you can't discern between fantasy and reality. How am I a weirdo? Bold: Oh and so you are saying rape is worse than murder? Okay

Edited August 16, 2012 by PureGold

[Kifflom112]

 

It's in my nature to care for children more than adults. For example, if I were to see 2 people drowing - one an adult, the other a child - and I only had time to save one of them, I would automatically try to save the child without a second thought.

 

f*cking hypocritical c*nts (who voted for NO): you people are pathetic you value a child's life more? if I were to be in a scenario where I could save the kid or myself I am saving myself. If you people want to play hero go ahead and get offed (murdered) morons.

 

codyr87: you must be kidding... you complain about the games cop killing/pedestrian killing - stop playing the game if you don't like it. The games title is Grand Theft Auto!!! what the f*ck were you expecting

So, uh, I see you like to bash people's opinions. Okay.

 

*Sigh* what a controversial post, I better leave.

Edited August 16, 2012 by Kifflom112

[spiderman3000]

Well, one way r* COULD put children so that it doesn't attract media attention is when children get killed(in the game,ofc) the body disappears within 1-2 sec with no sort of blood or anything. How does that sound to you "wont to kill a child in a game" forumers?

[ylm1024]

wow.... I really wish Rockstar had a black list to put some of you people on that way GTA V can be played in peace

[jamieleng]

I've just never thought "this game would be so much more realistic if it had children in it". Animals on the other hand, would add more than just another thing to shoot or run over. A stray dog in a dark alleyway barking at you as you're fleeing from the cops. Or a startled cat knocking over trashcans late at night would add ambience & atmosphere. As well as something else to shoot or run over, or both.

 

So I don't really want kids in GTA V because I don't think it would add anything beneficial to the game & R* don't need unnecessary controversy to sell their games. They've moved on from that tactic.

Edited August 16, 2012 by jamieleng

[DeafMetal]

No.

• It would add absolutely nothing to gameplay apart from "look I can kill this small, pixelated human!1111 Well that was a fun three seconds, now I'll completely ignore it for the rest of the game!"
• Since it will add nothing to gameplay, then it would be a waste of resources that could be spent elsewhere.
• Once again, it adds nothing to gameplay, but it would explode on the news and a LOT of countries would ban it. Why risk it with something as stupid as this?