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[whats_a_username?]

Well, if that's the case, he shouldn't be on the court. That's hurting the team. So as long as he's on the court, he's saying he's able to play, despite any ailments.

 

However, I don't think it's an injury that's impacting him. I think he's just playing like crap. You don't miss wide open uncontested layups because of a slightly banged up elbow.

 

Regardless of all that, I still think OKC would be leading. Until they find an answer for Durant and Westbrook, I think the outcome wold be the same. It's not just Curry who is playing bad, it's the whole team. Or maybe it's just OKC making them look bad. They're playing them very similar to the way the Spurs played them a while back. When teams play more physical against them, the Warriors play worse. They're a finesse team.

Edited May 26, 2016 by whats_a_username?

[Funktipus]

 

 

I love how everyone is disregarding the Toronto/Cleveland series, I can't tell you how many people have told me that it's still not a series and Cleveland has this wrapped up. If Toronto (Lowry) can show up in Cleveland like they did in Toronto then things will get very interesting out east.

It becomes a series when the Cavs lose at home.

2-2 seems like a competitive series to me.... considering the Cavs have been slicing through the East like hot butter.

 

 

But Cleveland won't feel any heat until Toronto beats them in their building. From what I saw last night, I doubt that will happen.

Edited May 26, 2016 by Funktipus

[GTA3Rockstar]

Well, if that's the case, he shouldn't be on the court. That's hurting the team. So as long as he's on the court, he's saying he's able to play, despite any ailments.

 

However, I don't think it's an injury that's impacting him. I think he's just playing like crap. You don't miss wide open uncontested layups because of a slightly banged up elbow.

 

Regardless of all that, I still think OKC would be leading. Until they find an answer for Durant and Westbrook, I think the outcome wold be the same. It's not just Curry who is playing bad, it's the whole team. Or maybe it's just OKC making them look bad. They're playing them very similar to the way the Spurs played them a while back. When teams play more physical against them, the Warriors play worse. They're a finesse team.

 

Oh, have you played pro basketball before with injuries? No? Thought so. A right elbow injury makes complete sense if your shots aren't dropping; layups, uncontested 3pts. Muscle memory, can't extend it normally, etc. Hell, even his passes aren't on point like they used to be

 

Without him they have no chance whatsoever.

 

Who knows, credit goes to the Thunder though. Playing like beasts, but if OKC wins (which I believe will happen), I hope the Cavs can take the series.

 

 

Speaking of his defensive stats, just heard on Mike and Mike, that Curry is 7th best DFG% (600 attempts minimum). http://stats.nba.com/league/player/defense/#!/?sort=D_FG_PCT&dir=-1&Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&PerMode=Totals&CF=D_FGA*G*600

 

Take it as you want but he's definitely not a bad defender like everyone says.

Edited May 26, 2016 by GTA3Rockstar

[Jonesizzle]

OKC has outplayed them. Just like they did San Antonio. It's hard to matchup up against 2 of the top 5 players in a 7 game series. It also helps that the supporting cast is playing lights out.

[whats_a_username?]

That DFG stat don't tell the whole story defensively though.

There's so much more than that. All DFG% takes into account is Opponents FGM / Opponents FGA. Meaning, if a player he's up against has a bad shooting night, Curry's DFG% will go up. Even if he wasn't the reason for the missed shots.

Example: If the player dribbles past Curry and then misses the layup or the pull up jumper, that goes on the DFG%, even though Curry was not impacting the outcome of the play at all.

It's really not a good indication of good defense, specially at the perimeter positions.

 

ESPN should know better than to throw that out and say "look, he's better defensively than people think". Then again, idk what the average "sports IQ" for the ESPN audience is. I know they tend to pander to the casual sports fans.

 

 

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Well, tonight's result was what I thought it would be. Warriors won at home. Let's see how they do in OKC.

At least the debate for Best team ever can be stopped now. Regardless if they win the title or not, they're not the best.

Edited May 27, 2016 by whats_a_username?

[gtamann123]

It's over on Saturday. There's no way OKC will lose at home

[Jonesizzle]

The debate on who's the best ever will never be over if they win the title, like it or not.

[jatiger13]

The debate on who's the best ever will never be over if they win the title, like it or not.

Except only stupid people will argue on behalf of the Warriors.

 

95-96 Bulls led the league in both offense and defense. The Warriors did not.

The Warriors have already lost more games than the Bulls did that season, playoffs included. So do the Warriors really have the best record, if they have lost more games? Regular season, yes, barely. But with the playoffs included, the games that really matters, NO.

 

So if it's between those two teams, the Bulls takes it, hands down.

 

 

Oh, have you played pro basketball before with injuries? No? Thought so. A right elbow injury makes complete sense if your shots aren't dropping; layups, uncontested 3pts. Muscle memory, can't extend it normally, etc. Hell, even his passes aren't on point like they used to be

Oh, have you played pro basketball before with injuries? No? I know for a fact that you never have. Yet, somehow, YOU don't think Buffalo Bill is qualified to discuss the impact or non-impact of injuries, because HE never played as a pro. But you somehow qualify. Oh, the irony.

 

 

If he's was affected by it or not, folks in the media have used the knee injury as an excuse for why he might've been struggling. I never heard them use a bruised elbow as the excuse.

Media always needs excuses for why their little favorites arent performing in games. Never mind that he's too small to guard Westbrook. That's probably why Thompson was guarding him more tonight.

 

Even stars have off nights, his just happened to come at a bad time.

 

Another funny thing about this. I heard a funny tweet. It said something like "Curry's injury only seems to flare up when they're losing."

Edited May 27, 2016 by jatiger13

[Jonesizzle]

well, the Bulls never had to face adversary.

It's a different game and pace now a days, and if a team like Golden State can come back from a 3-1 deficit, then it'd be on legendary proportions. Especially if they can win the title.

 

 

This is coming from a OKC native/fan and can only hope this is a jinx.

Edited May 27, 2016 by DOOM!

[jatiger13]

well, the Bulls never had to face adversary.

It's a different game and pace now a days, and if a team like Golden State can come back from a 3-1 deficit, then it'd be on legendary proportions. Especially if they can win the title.

 

 

This is coming from a OKC native/fan and can only hope this is a jinx.

They have yet to prove that they can be competitive in OKC this series. At home is one thing, on the road is another. I think OKC will take it.

Westbrook and Durant took some bad shots in the last 3 or 4 minutes of the game last night. There were better options. Would the other players have made the shots? We'll never know, but there was some bad shot selection by the Thunder later in the game. That made a big difference. It was a close game, I'm not so confident in the same thing happening in OKC. That's judging from what I've seen in this series.

Edited May 27, 2016 by jatiger13

[Jonesizzle]

So yeah, if they can pull off this series it'd be pretty god damn incredible. Quit being debbie downers and enjoy the series for what it is

[jatiger13]

If OKC keeps playing physical against Curry, I don't see the Warriors coming back. When teams play physical against him, it disrupts his game a lot and never allows him to get into rhythm. That's probably the biggest reason for why Curry hasn't looked good this series.

 

He looks himself and is making shots in pregame warmups (according to reports). But when the game starts and he has to play against defenders who plays him physically, he's off. There's a reason for that and it's not any injuries.

 

The guy needs to stop with the turnovers though.

Again last night, Curry turned the ball over a lot. More than his already high season average for turnovers.

 

 

 

Let's see if Green plays the same way in OKC. He can get away with those things at home, on the road it's a different story. He should've been T'd up more than a couple of times last night. At this point, he's starting to look like a dirty player.

Edited May 27, 2016 by jatiger13

[Zello]

[El Dildo]

happy for Cleveland.

[gtamann123]

Now Toronto can go back to watching the Jays finish in 2nd place and and miss the playoffs.

[GTA3Rockstar]

 

Oh, have you played pro basketball before with injuries? No? Thought so. A right elbow injury makes complete sense if your shots aren't dropping; layups, uncontested 3pts. Muscle memory, can't extend it normally, etc. Hell, even his passes aren't on point like they used to be

Oh, have you played pro basketball before with injuries? No? I know for a fact that you never have. Yet, somehow, YOU don't think Buffalo Bill is qualified to discuss the impact or non-impact of injuries, because HE never played as a pro. But you somehow qualify. Oh, the irony.

 

Oh, don't be an ignorant c*nt. lol

 

You can't say, "You don't miss wide open uncontested layups because of a slightly banged up elbow." if you never played pro ball.

 

But you can say, "A right elbow injury makes complete sense if your shots aren't dropping; layups, uncontested 3pts."

 

You simply don't miss 5 uncontested 3pt shots out of the blue, especially when you're already clutch at making nearly all of them. It's all muscle memory, if your muscle is tensed up or bruised, I guarantee it affects your shooting/passing. Therefore, an injury to his shooting elbow makes complete sense why he hasn't hit his shots he normally would.

 

So settle down.

 

 

If Curry and Thompson don't get 60+ pts and make more 3pts than the Thunder, they probably won't win.

 

 

 

 

Well, tonight's result was what I thought it would be. Warriors won at home. Let's see how they do in OKC.

At least the debate for Best team ever can be stopped now. Regardless if they win the title or not, they're not the best.

There will still be a debate if they do win it all. No question. Especially if they overcome a 3-1 deficit. They would be the 10th team to do it and like the 2nd in the conference finals.

Edited May 28, 2016 by GTA3Rockstar

[Jonesizzle]

They could come back and win and there will still be complaints, or comparisons or just nonsense. I hope they get stomped out in OKC, but we'd never hear the end of the legacy of the Warriors.

[GTA3Rockstar]

Well, there you have it.

No way will the Thunder win game 7.

Edited May 29, 2016 by GTA3Rockstar

[MLGTA]

Can't even believe what I just saw.

[GTA3Rockstar]

You can say steals "are not an indication of good defensive ability" all you want, but Curry got two steals on the inbounds within the final seconds (alas defending the inbounds). Got more points and sealed the win.

 

 

Klay went off, though. 11 3pts

 

 

I was tellin my buddy, who I still think is a bandwagon fan (lol), that Thompson and Curry need to get 60pts+ and outshoot the Thunder in 3pts in order to win. 70pts and 17 3ptsM.

 

Also, I kept bashing him about it, so he can thank me for them getting to game 7. lol

Edited May 29, 2016 by GTA3Rockstar

[El Dildo]

does anyone still want to trod out that bullsh/t argument about Steph Curry being overrated?

[Jonesizzle]

they will tomorrow once OKC beats them.

[Funktipus]

does anyone still want to trod out that bullsh/t argument about Steph Curry being overrated?

 

I would never say that.....he's just not on LeBron's level yet. To me, LeBron's up there with the NBA immortals.

 

Unbelievable what I saw in those last five minutes. Epic choke job by OKC. Had the lead and then they reverted to their old habits. Horrible execution on offense, turnovers, and the two stars were the biggest culprits. Like Charles, Kenny & Shaq said, too much "hero ball".

 

It'll be a miracle if they win at GS.

[jatiger13]

Durant needs to play better. A lot better. The last 2 games, he has been pretty bad.

 

There will still be a debate if they do win it all. No question. Especially if they overcome a 3-1 deficit. They would be the 10th team to do it and like the 2nd in the conference finals.

So because they got themselves in a hole and managed to get out, is that better than winning in 6 or 7 after being tied at 2-2?

 

A truly great team wouldn't allow themselves to be down 3-1 in a series. Like Ali said: "There's no greatness in losing." And if you are in that situation, you're losing too much. All they had to do was not lose 3 games, but they did. Where's the greatness in that? Overcoming their mistakes isn't greatness either, because you put yourself in a bad situation. Where's the greatness in that?

"There's no greatness in losing."

 

 

Let's not forget the other teams who overcame a 3-1 deficit. Remember... that team. And what about the... the...the other team. And then there's the rest of them. Such greatness, right?

Edited May 30, 2016 by jatiger13

[GTA3Rockstar]

Durant needs to play better. A lot better. The last 2 games, he has been pretty bad.

 

There will still be a debate if they do win it all. No question. Especially if they overcome a 3-1 deficit. They would be the 10th team to do it and like the 2nd in the conference finals.

So because they got themselves in a hole and managed to get out, is that better than winning in 6 or 7 after being tied at 2-2?

 

A truly great team wouldn't allow themselves to be down 3-1 in a series. Like Ali said: "There's no greatness in losing." And if you are in that situation, you're losing too much. All they had to do was not lose 3 games, but they did. Where's the greatness in that? Overcoming their mistakes isn't greatness either, because you put yourself in a bad situation. Where's the greatness in that?

"There's no greatness in losing."

 

 

 

You make it sound like they needed to go 16-0 in the playoffs. lol Doesn't work like that.

 

Everyone knew this series would go 7 games, so be it with OKC or SA, and how it got there doesn't matter. If they lose, then all bets are off, they will just have the best regular season record.

 

 

 

I got a quote, too! It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile, winning's winning.

[jatiger13]

It matters if you gonna throw in the word "greatness". And the Warriors are losing too much to be considered the best team ever. They've already lost more games than the Bulls did in 95-96.

 

Anyway, I'm rooting for a Cavs-Thunder finals, for obvious reasons. Obvious to me, that is.

Edited May 30, 2016 by jatiger13

[Funktipus]

Y'all heard about the Pelicans' Bryce Dejean Jones shot to death after he mistakenly entered the wrong apartment? Damn that sh*t is f-d up.

[Jonesizzle]

with your flawed logic the '01 Lakers should be (considered) the greatest team ever... quit trying to f*cking compare and realize greatness when its present, you're spending more time trying to ridicule and find stats to discredit the Warriors. Pretty distasteful and, again, annoying. it's pathetic that a series like this, facing 2 of the top 5 players on one team, will take away the "greatness" title they've earned throughout the season, because of your biased hatred towards them.

 

Your "obvious reasons" reek for obvious reasons.

 

 

A part of me wants Steven Adams to knock out Draymond during a follow through of his shot.

Edited May 31, 2016 by DOOM!

[jatiger13]

Your "obvious reasons" reek for obvious reasons.

 

Nah, the "obvious" reason for why I want a Cavs-Thunder finals is this:

I went to UCLA at the same time as Love and Westbrook.

[Jonesizzle]

well.... sucks for you.

 

it sucks, and it sucks again, because we will be hearing and reading stupid comparisons. Cavs vs. Warriors will be interesting.

Edited May 31, 2016 by DOOM!