NBA Discussion

[Funktipus]

Knicks continue to embarrass themselves - got pounded 54-36 on the glass, missing wide open looks, confusion on defense....they're just about done.

 

Knicks talked so much this year about getting a shot at Miami in the conference finals. If they lose this series, the season will be a HUGE disappointment & failure, IMO.

[UrbanTheEmcee]

Knicks continue to embarrass themselves - got pounded 54-36 on the glass, missing wide open looks, confusion on defense....they're just about done.

 

Knicks talked so much this year about getting a shot at Miami in the conference finals. If they lose this series, the season will be a HUGE disappointment & failure, IMO.

I expected another classic series in the Pacers/Knicks rivalry but we didn't get it this time around. Who knows, the Knicks might rally this thing to a game seven.

[Funktipus]

I expected another classic series in the Pacers/Knicks rivalry but we didn't get it this time around. Who knows, the Knicks might rally this thing to a game seven.

Well, they took step one last night.

[mark-2007]

Yeah, I'm hoping for a game 7. I had hoped the Spurs-Warriors series might have dragged out a 7-game series but oh well, the Warriors have definitely endeared themselves to me from this run.

 

Also, looks like Seattle won't be getting a tea anytime soon, unfortunately. That said, congrats to Sacramento fans for keeping their team. I just hope the league considers expansion once Stern steps down next February. Something about how the Sonics left (well, a lot of things) rubbed fans - basketball fans in general, I'd say, not just Seattle fans - the wrong way, and it'd be nice to see the NBA recognise that and rectify it. It's still weird to me how American sports teams can just up sticks and relocate.

[InstantCClassic]

If this Knicks/Pacers series drags out to 7 games, I can honestly see New York taking the win. You know what's on Stern's mind: "New York.....Miami....two big market cities will be a ratings fest!"

 

Sure, Indiana can give Miami more trouble, but the Knicks have no problem creating offense. Take out David West, and you'll see the whole Pacers squad desperately finding offense for themselves.

 

I want New York in the ECFs, mostly because they're more entertaining than Indy, but man would a Pacers-Grizzlies Finals match-up piss Stern off...

[Jonesizzle]

Seattle fans annoy me. They didn't show up for the Supersonics and they wouldn't approve a new stadium, which is why the moved to OKC, and now people act salty towards OKC and whine in general about not having a team. Maybe when ya'll had one, you should've showed up. Now people are acting like they are the most deserving of a expansion team...

 

As for the WCF, I see Spurs coming out of that series in 5 games. Memphis barely could beat a Westbrook-less Thunder, 4 times. Each game came down to the last few minutes and Thunder is barely a average team without Westbrook, and that showed. It would be nice to see Memphis go and I think they'd be the better matchup for Miami, but I think the Spurs will find a way to make it to the Finals.

 

Hopefully another classic Knicks/Pacers playoff game tonight.

Edited May 18, 2013 by DOOM!

[UrbanTheEmcee]

Pacers move on to the ECF. Should be a pretty physical series. Hope my Pacers can get pass these boys.

 

[Funktipus]

What a big-time failure of a season by the Knicks.

 

This franchise breaks your heart year after year. 40 years without a championship and counting.

 

Besides J.R Smith, another disappointment was Tyson Chandler. I understand he wasn't 100% but damn, he gave the team nothing. And I'm tired of him taking shots at teamates or the 'game plan'. How about admitting he couldn't get it done against Roy Hibbert.

 

Knicks need more beef up front, and youth & speed in the backcourt. Have to get a consistent scorer - J.R Smith showed he's not ready for prime time.

Edited May 19, 2013 by Funktipus

[Jonesizzle]

Well, that's what happens when you rely so heavily on the jumpshot and you have inconsistent players on your squad.

 

[UrbanTheEmcee]

Well, that's what happens when you rely so heavily on the jumpshot and you have inconsistent players on your squad.

Exactly. NYK need to trade a certain someone at PF and get some substance.

 

As far as the ECF go, Pacers need to stop Heat's bench from contributing to this series. If we do that this thing is ours.

I can't wait till that bench of Miami's gets dismantled.

[mark-2007]

 

Seattle fans annoy me. They didn't show up for the Supersonics and they wouldn't approve a new stadium, which is why the moved to OKC, and now people act salty towards OKC and whine in general about not having a team. Maybe when ya'll had one, you should've showed up. Now people are acting like they are the most deserving of a expansion team...

Expect that, looking at attendance figures, Seattle did show up for the Sonics. In the 2006-07 season, they averaged 15,955 at their home games which is 25th in the league (ahead of the Hawks, Bobcats, Pacers, 76ers and Grizzlies). However, when you look at it as a percentage of their maximum attendance, they jump up to 12th in the league with 93.5% attendance, ahead of teams such as the Warriors and the Celtics, who have notoriously loud and loyal fans. (Only 7 teams averaged 100% attendance.) Attendance did drop in the final season in Seattle, as you would expect when the future of your team is in doubt - why bother putting your money, attention and time into a team who may not be there come next season? - not to mention a 20-62 record, which would cause a drop in attendance in most cities - the Kings have been floating around the low 80s/70s in attendance %, as have the Bobcats and the post-LeBron Cavs and the Pistons only managed 67% this year. Even still, they placed 20th in attendance % with 13,355.

 

Now you could, of course, go on to say that they should have approved a new arena since KeyArena was the smallest in the league. However, "they" - if we're talking about the fans - aren't in a position to make that decision. Granted, they help elect the people who are, and so are accountable indirectly. As for the politicians who were behind rejecting the arena plans, you could argue that, as the city supported the Sonics, it could be seen as in the public interest to approve a new arena. However, why should the city and the people have to fork out for a bunch of billionaires to build an arena in order to then watch a bunch of millionaires?

 

I haven't seen all that much ill will outside of the "Beat OKC" signs that show up when the Thunder make a Playoff run, and I think even that hate is directed at Clay Bennett and the owners. And who can blame the fans on that part? He bought the team under false pretenses (leaked emails suggested he and fellow members of the ownership group planned to move the team even before they purchased it see here, co-owner Aubrey McClendon publicly said so and was promptly fined by the NBA for his slip of the tongue, and the half-arsed Seattle arena proposal that Bennett and co did make was out in the suburbs, iirc).

 

I don't think anyone questions that OKC is a great place to have an NBA team - from the games I've seen, there's a good atmosphere in their arena. I think that, out of the current cities looking for expansion teams, Seattle is right up there, certainly better than Las Vegas and Virginia Beach, who came up when the Kings tried to move a season or two ago.

 

As for the recent NBA rejection of Seattle, there are a few fishy things about it. Firstly, Hansen and Ballmer, the two Seattle owners, intended to fund the stadiums themselves, rather than have the city of Seattle fund it. This is something I imagine many NBA owners would want to discourage because, as it stands, they can use their ownership of the team as a huge bargaining chip in getting the city to pay for their shiny new stadiums and save themselves hundreds of millions of $$$. Furthermore, the owners also benefit from rejecting Seattle as it allows them to have Seattle as a threat looming over any future cities who refuse to pay for their stadiums, a sort of "well if you won't pay for it, we'll go elsewhere" scenario as seen with the relationship between the NFL and Los Angeles. On top of that, Bennett himself heads the NBA's relocation committee and, I could well be wrong no this one, promised to pay the city of Seattle $30m if they didn't receive an NBA team within five years of the settlement - meaning, I think, June this year.

 

Sorry for the length, but hope that clears some things up.

Edited May 20, 2013 by mark-2007

[Funktipus]

Well, that's what happens when you rely so heavily on the jumpshot and you have inconsistent players on your squad.

Yep, you're in trouble if you have to rely on J.R. Smith for consistency. Knicks have to find someone who can light it up every night. Carmelo did all he could do.

 

I love Amar'e's comments about wanting to meet with Woodson to have his role 'defined'. Please. How about you staying healthy for more than a week?

[Jonesizzle]

 

Seattle fans annoy me. They didn't show up for the Supersonics and they wouldn't approve a new stadium, which is why the moved to OKC, and now people act salty towards OKC and whine in general about not having a team. Maybe when ya'll had one, you should've showed up. Now people are acting like they are the most deserving of a expansion team...

Expect that, looking at attendance figures, Seattle did show up for the Sonics. In the 2006-07 season, they averaged 15,955 at their home games which is 25th in the league (ahead of the Hawks, Bobcats, Pacers, 76ers and Grizzlies). However, when you look at it as a percentage of their maximum attendance, they jump up to 12th in the league with 93.5% attendance, ahead of teams such as the Warriors and the Celtics, who have notoriously loud and loyal fans. (Only 7 teams averaged 100% attendance.) Attendance did drop in the final season in Seattle, as you would expect when the future of your team is in doubt - why bother putting your money, attention and time into a team who may not be there come next season? - not to mention a 20-62 record, which would cause a drop in attendance in most cities - the Kings have been floating around the low 80s/70s in attendance %, as have the Bobcats and the post-LeBron Cavs and the Pistons only managed 67% this year. Even still, they placed 20th in attendance % with 13,355.

 

Now you could, of course, go on to say that they should have approved a new arena since KeyArena was the smallest in the league. However, "they" - if we're talking about the fans - aren't in a position to make that decision. Granted, they help elect the people who are, and so are accountable indirectly. As for the politicians who were behind rejecting the arena plans, you could argue that, as the city supported the Sonics, it could be seen as in the public interest to approve a new arena. However, why should the city and the people have to fork out for a bunch of billionaires to build an arena in order to then watch a bunch of millionaires?

 

I haven't seen all that much ill will outside of the "Beat OKC" signs that show up when the Thunder make a Playoff run, and I think even that hate is directed at Clay Bennett and the owners. And who can blame the fans on that part? He bought the team under false pretenses (leaked emails suggested he and fellow members of the ownership group planned to move the team even before they purchased it see here, co-owner Aubrey McClendon publicly said so and was promptly fined by the NBA for his slip of the tongue, and the half-arsed Seattle arena proposal that Bennett and co did make was out in the suburbs, iirc).

 

I don't think anyone questions that OKC is a great place to have an NBA team - from the games I've seen, there's a good atmosphere in their arena. I think that, out of the current cities looking for expansion teams, Seattle is right up there, certainly better than Las Vegas and Virginia Beach, who came up when the Kings tried to move a season or two ago.

 

As for the recent NBA rejection of Seattle, there are a few fishy things about it. Firstly, Hansen and Ballmer, the two Seattle owners, intended to fund the stadiums themselves, rather than have the city of Seattle fund it. This is something I imagine many NBA owners would want to discourage because, as it stands, they can use their ownership of the team as a huge bargaining chip in getting the city to pay for their shiny new stadiums and save themselves hundreds of millions of $$$. Furthermore, the owners also benefit from rejecting Seattle as it allows them to have Seattle as a threat looming over any future cities who refuse to pay for their stadiums, a sort of "well if you won't pay for it, we'll go elsewhere" scenario as seen with the relationship between the NFL and Los Angeles. On top of that, Bennett himself heads the NBA's relocation committee and, I could well be wrong no this one, promised to pay the city of Seattle $30m if they didn't receive an NBA team within five years of the settlement - meaning, I think, June this year.

 

Sorry for the length, but hope that clears some things up.

You did clear things up. I'm just a OKC native, who gets pissy when I hear Seattle natives bitch and moan about the whole situation. Thunder play some crappy artist song at the beginning of each game, and he recently came out and said he didn't want them playing his song... by the way, he is a Seattle native.

 

I was under the impression that the Sonics had non-loyal fans, and were to cheap to get a new stadium. That's what ESPN made it seem like back when all of it was going down.

 

Dwight visits Kupchak.

 

Dwight Howard can deny he is a coach killer all he wants, but with his infamous stint with Van Gundy and now this, I don't think it's a coincidence at all this is happening. Dwight is a 7 foot child.

Edited May 21, 2013 by DOOM!

[Funktipus]

Dwight visits Kupchak.

 

Dwight Howard can deny he is a coach killer all he wants, but with his infamous stint with Van Gundy and now this, I don't think it's a coincidence at all this is happening. Dwight is a 7 foot child.

Yes, Dwight is immature, but D'Antoni is a joke, and the wrong coach for this team. He's too stubborn to adjust his system to fit the talent at his disposal. I had enough of Pringles in NY. I did handstands the day he left.

[UrbanTheEmcee]

damn, Damn, DAMN!

 

Pacers played with my emotions tonight. This is going to be a good ass series right here.

Where the f*ck was Lance Stephenson tonight?!? Why was Hibbert on the bench in the last minute?!?

 

Don't you hate it when your team is on the losing end of a classic. Next game baby. Go Pacers!

Edited May 23, 2013 by UrbanTheEmcee

[Capricornus]

I don't have a favorite team, but I love and enjoy some great Basketball and I witnessed it with this Pacers v Heat game tonight. I am rooting for the Pacers to win the series only because they are the underdog. What a thrilling game and finish. I agree, Hibbert should have been on the floor in the last seconds. Lebron probably would not have made that shot.

[Jonesizzle]

I think you're kidding yourself if you honestly think LeBron wouldn't have made that shot with Hibbert on the court. LeBron James is someone who will not be stopped, and considering it is the Eastern Conference Finals, it doesn't help the freight train they call LeBron from making any shot... and that has been evident this year.

 

Regardless, I would've had Hibbert in the game if it was my team. Two seconds left? I would've told him to just stand in the paint and put his hands up.

 

LBJ Layup<LBJ Free Throws

Edited May 23, 2013 by DOOM!

[gta_player5]

I would have left Hibbert in the game. If Vogel was worried about Chris Bosh stretching out to the three-point line, let him. I would let Chris Bosh take an 18+ foot jumper than let LeBron get to the rim. I'd take my chances with making LeBron dribble once and hit a pull-up jumper than letting him get to the basket. He is the best finisher at the rim in the NBA. While he has greatly improved his jump shot in the last couple of years, I would be much more comfortable making him shoot the ball than letting him do what he does best. LeBron was stopped twice and turned the ball over the last three possessions Hibbert was in the game. The first two possessions without Hibbert, LeBron scores four points, including the game-winner.

[UrbanTheEmcee]

Game 2 tonight. If the Pacers cut down these turnovers, and dominate the rim it's a wrap.

 

@DOOM!: I know why you feel that way, but this ain't last year. The Pacers have top 5 defense unlike the Thunder. If Thunder had our Defense they might be champs. If we had a healthy Danny Granger it would be a much different series too.

[Jonesizzle]

Game 2 tonight. If the Pacers cut down these turnovers, and dominate the rim it's a wrap.

 

@DOOM!: I know why you feel that way, but this ain't last year. The Pacers have top 5 defense unlike the Thunder. If Thunder had our Defense they might be champs. If we had a healthy Danny Granger it would be a much different series too.

I understand your a Pacers fan, but don't undermine LeBron James. He has proven he can get to the bucket regardless of who is in the game.

 

And I wouldn't say it'd be a different series with Danny Granger. If you had a healthy Granger this year, you'd probably not see the development of Paul George happen so rapidly this year. Danny Granger wouldn't be the problem, and it isn't even Paul George, it's the big men the Pacers have that can dominate the paint and rebound over Miami. Although, Chris Anderson is stepping up big for the Heat.

[UrbanTheEmcee]

Game 2 tonight. If the Pacers cut down these turnovers, and dominate the rim it's a wrap.

 

@DOOM!: I know why you feel that way, but this ain't last year. The Pacers have top 5 defense unlike the Thunder. If Thunder had our Defense they might be champs. If we had a healthy Danny Granger it would be a much different series too.

I understand your a Pacers fan, but don't undermine LeBron James. He has proven he can get to the bucket regardless of who is in the game.

 

And I wouldn't say it'd be a different series with Danny Granger. If you had a healthy Granger this year, you'd probably not see the development of Paul George happen so rapidly this year. Danny Granger wouldn't be the problem, and it isn't even Paul George, it's the big men the Pacers have that can dominate the paint and rebound over Miami. Although, Chris Anderson is stepping up big for the Heat.

Game 2 goes to the Pacers, and home court is now in Indy baby. Hibbert and his beautiful mini sky hook was a real factor tonight.

 

@DOOM!: LeBron is a force, it just hurts to know that. Your right about Paul George needing that space to grow, I still wish Granger was able to return for the playoffs. Hope to see him back next year.

[Jonesizzle]

Just in case you missed it.

 

 

 

 

That was real nasty.

[Capricornus]

Damn, what an excellent game. As I said, I don't have a favorite team but I love me a great Basketball game. I really hope this series will continue to be a great one.

[Jonesizzle]

That it was. It's funny, how most people were praising for LeBron's clutch play as of late, but tonight was the polar opposite of clutch play. 2 Turnovers in last 3 minutes of 4th quarter and it doesn't matter what his stat line is.

[Capricornus]

Damn, the Pacers kept it tight in the beginning, but towards the end, the Heat just ran away with the game and broke out to a double digit win.

 

Next game wil be a lot better I hope. The Grizzles are pretty much done. Down 3-0 in the series.

[Funktipus]

Damn, the Pacers kept it tight in the beginning, but towards the end, the Heat just ran away with the game and broke out to a double digit win.

 

Next game wil be a lot better I hope. The Grizzles are pretty much done. Down 3-0 in the series.

Miami adjusted - they went more post-up with Lebron. George had no chance. Haslem couldn't miss.

[gta_player5]

The San Antonio Spurs just capped off a sweep of the Memphis Grizzlies tonight. Both teams are very team-first and have little to no "hero ball," except when Tony Parker catches fire, like he has recently. I really thought that this would be a better series. I was expecting this series to go to six games and the Spurs would advance. I did not expect Memphis to get swept. Ever. Especially after how well Marc Gasol and Zach Randolph played in the series against Oklahoma City. The difference there was the size (and skill) of the Spurs front court. OKC's front court just got pushed around by Memphis. Serge Ibaka was getting outmuscled by the Grizzlies' two big men and Kendrick Perkins was, well, being Kendrick Perkins. Then you go against Tim Duncan and Tiago Splitter, who has gotten much better over the last season or two, and the Grizzlies' advantage during the previous series was negated.

 

Also, Parker outplayed Mike Conley in every way possible. I thought Conley was going to turn the corner and become a star after the way he played in the OKC series, as well, but that doesn't seem to be the case. He was playing against inferior point guards since Russell Westbrook was injured. If Westbrook had played, I don't think Conley would have played as well as he did and I think OKC would have advanced, despite their front court being dominated.

 

Above all else, however, the main thing in this series was the coaching. Gregg Popovich has shown NBA fans why he is still the best coach in the league. The Spurs have hall of fame caliber players in Duncan, Parker and Manu Ginobili, but, in all honesty, none of them strike fear in me as a fan of another team. I look at the Miami Heat and LeBron scares the sh*t out of me. The Spurs don't have that, but they win. That's all that matters. I don't think people will look back on the San Antonio Spurs from the lockout shortened season in 1998, the 2003 NBA Finals, 2005 Finals and 2007 Finals and think, "Well, they didn't have anyone like LeBron..." No, they will look at this quietly formed dynasty and remember how good a team they were and how good their coaching was.

 

With that said, I fully expect the Spurs to face the Heat in the NBA Finals and I predict the Heat will in the series in six games. While the Spurs have all-star caliber players, great chemistry and coaching, they don't have the best basketball player on the planet. LeBron may have f*cked up in game two against Indiana, but I don't think he will in the NBA Finals. Just my opinion.

[InstantCClassic]

The thing that scares me about San Antonio is how fundamentally sound they are and their interior ball movement. Veteran leadership from the real big 3: Duncan, Parker, and Ginobili.

 

I got Spurs winning the Finals. Tim Duncan gets one more ring and rides off into the sunset.

 

Going back to that Paul George poster featuring the Birdman: "MAMA, THERE GOES THAT MAN!"

Edited May 29, 2013 by InstantCClassic

[tubbs51]

Seattle fans annoy me. They didn't show up for the Supersonics and they wouldn't approve a new stadium, which is why the moved to OKC, and now people act salty towards OKC and whine in general about not having a team. Maybe when ya'll had one, you should've showed up. Now people are acting like they are the most deserving of a expansion team...

Expect that, looking at attendance figures, Seattle did show up for the Sonics. In the 2006-07 season, they averaged 15,955 at their home games which is 25th in the league (ahead of the Hawks, Bobcats, Pacers, 76ers and Grizzlies). However, when you look at it as a percentage of their maximum attendance, they jump up to 12th in the league with 93.5% attendance, ahead of teams such as the Warriors and the Celtics, who have notoriously loud and loyal fans. (Only 7 teams averaged 100% attendance.) Attendance did drop in the final season in Seattle, as you would expect when the future of your team is in doubt - why bother putting your money, attention and time into a team who may not be there come next season? - not to mention a 20-62 record, which would cause a drop in attendance in most cities - the Kings have been floating around the low 80s/70s in attendance %, as have the Bobcats and the post-LeBron Cavs and the Pistons only managed 67% this year. Even still, they placed 20th in attendance % with 13,355.

 

Now you could, of course, go on to say that they should have approved a new arena since KeyArena was the smallest in the league. However, "they" - if we're talking about the fans - aren't in a position to make that decision. Granted, they help elect the people who are, and so are accountable indirectly. As for the politicians who were behind rejecting the arena plans, you could argue that, as the city supported the Sonics, it could be seen as in the public interest to approve a new arena. However, why should the city and the people have to fork out for a bunch of billionaires to build an arena in order to then watch a bunch of millionaires?

 

I haven't seen all that much ill will outside of the "Beat OKC" signs that show up when the Thunder make a Playoff run, and I think even that hate is directed at Clay Bennett and the owners. And who can blame the fans on that part? He bought the team under false pretenses (leaked emails suggested he and fellow members of the ownership group planned to move the team even before they purchased it see here, co-owner Aubrey McClendon publicly said so and was promptly fined by the NBA for his slip of the tongue, and the half-arsed Seattle arena proposal that Bennett and co did make was out in the suburbs, iirc).

 

I don't think anyone questions that OKC is a great place to have an NBA team - from the games I've seen, there's a good atmosphere in their arena. I think that, out of the current cities looking for expansion teams, Seattle is right up there, certainly better than Las Vegas and Virginia Beach, who came up when the Kings tried to move a season or two ago.

 

As for the recent NBA rejection of Seattle, there are a few fishy things about it. Firstly, Hansen and Ballmer, the two Seattle owners, intended to fund the stadiums themselves, rather than have the city of Seattle fund it. This is something I imagine many NBA owners would want to discourage because, as it stands, they can use their ownership of the team as a huge bargaining chip in getting the city to pay for their shiny new stadiums and save themselves hundreds of millions of $$$. Furthermore, the owners also benefit from rejecting Seattle as it allows them to have Seattle as a threat looming over any future cities who refuse to pay for their stadiums, a sort of "well if you won't pay for it, we'll go elsewhere" scenario as seen with the relationship between the NFL and Los Angeles. On top of that, Bennett himself heads the NBA's relocation committee and, I could well be wrong no this one, promised to pay the city of Seattle $30m if they didn't receive an NBA team within five years of the settlement - meaning, I think, June this year.

 

Sorry for the length, but hope that clears some things up.

You did clear things up. I'm just a OKC native, who gets pissy when I hear Seattle natives bitch and moan about the whole situation. Thunder play some crappy artist song at the beginning of each game, and he recently came out and said he didn't want them playing his song... by the way, he is a Seattle native.

 

I was under the impression that the Sonics had non-loyal fans, and were to cheap to get a new stadium. That's what ESPN made it seem like back when all of it was going down.

 

Dwight visits Kupchak.

 

Dwight Howard can deny he is a coach killer all he wants, but with his infamous stint with Van Gundy and now this, I don't think it's a coincidence at all this is happening. Dwight is a 7 foot child.

Thats the media

 

Being from the northwest i'm some what a sonics fan (i was just getting into it when the sonics left) i'll give my input. BTW that artist is Macklemore. His songs are odd but considering the dude has had multiple chart topping hits and refuses to sign to a label is spirited to say the least.

 

I HIGHLY recommend watching the documentary Sonicsgate either on Youtube or on their website. It'll show you what happened outside of ESPN's collective East Coast vision.

 

@Mark: I agree with you on everything you said. everything about the move and the attempted acquisition of the kings was fishy as f*ck. The Fact that Bennett is head of the relocation committee is a red flag in and of its self. The fans aren't upset at OKC. OKC didnt take the sonics. Clay Bennett and his behind the back scheming did. And everyone on that city council that voted no by the way lost their spots in the very next elections.

 

I'm going to love it at the next CBA negotiations when the NBA says they lost profits but then realize they turned down a deal to move a team to the 13th biggest market with what would have been one of the richest ownership groups in the NBA and settled for a considerably smaller profit. Mind you Ballmer was trying to buy the Sonics originally and Stern and the NBA said no and approved Bennett's. All you have to do is look at all the support from former players, even KD sported a sonics cap at practice during the Thunder's playoffs this season.

 

Seattle deserves an NBA team. The crap part is is that all of the sonic history is now Thunder history meaning the new Seattle franchise cannot claim Gary Payton, Shawn Kemp, etc etc as former players because that history is Thunder history now.

[El Dildo]

 

people were praising LeBron's clutch play as of late, but tonight was the polar opposite of clutch play. 2 Turnovers in last 3 minutes of 4th quarter and it doesn't matter what his stat line is.

yes unfortunately even Lebron James is human after all and slightly less than capable of being clutch 100% of the time

he's still a freak of nature and good money is on The Heat repeating as NBA champions.

 

I think most people would enjoy seeing a Spurs / Heat final.

at that point I don't care who wins because I like San Antonio as much as Miami; Duncan, Ginobili, coach Pop.

 

the only downside to the Spurs winning is that Tony Parker gets to win and I hate that douchebag

I want everyone on the Spurs to be champions... except Parker.