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cbute

Should I kill Francis or Derrick?

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cbute

I really can't figure this out. I don't like Francis, but I like the reward he gives. I like Derrick, but he gives 2 extra missions! I don't really want to do more missions. Please help!

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Miro

Who you decide to kill is entirely your choice. Each option has its own benefits, though killing Playboy X appears to be the favoured option amongst the majority of GTA IV fans. Killing Playboy X will earn you his loft (which will act as a new safehouse) in addition to a new outfit, and it also means that Dwayne Forge becomes a friend, which itself provides new benefits. Killing Dwayne will earn you 25,000$ but Playboy refuses to speak to you afterwards, so there are no other benefits apart from that.

 

My suggestion would be to kill Derrick. You said that you don't wish to do anymore missions, so better kill him. Beside the two given missions by Derrick, you won't meet him again.

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cbute

thx

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Shelby123456

When I got to this mission, the first that happened when I looked through the sniper scope was emotions. Choosing who to kill was hard for me because, I liked both Derrick and Frankie in many ways. I knew I had to kill Frankie because, he was screwing with Derricks head so, I put on my game face and aimed for Frankie's head and said,"Goodnight you f*ck.." and shot him. But,....lol thats just me. I get too emotionally involved with characters. smile.gif

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Ferocious Banger

Kill that Francis bastard!

Edited by Ferocious Banger

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iRawa647
Who you decide to kill is entirely your choice. Each option has its own benefits, though killing Playboy X appears to be the favoured option amongst the majority of GTA IV fans. Killing Playboy X will earn you his loft (which will act as a new safehouse) in addition to a new outfit, and it also means that Dwayne Forge becomes a friend, which itself provides new benefits. Killing Dwayne will earn you 25,000$ but Playboy refuses to speak to you afterwards, so there are no other benefits apart from that.

 

My suggestion would be to kill Derrick. You said that you don't wish to do anymore missions, so better kill him. Beside the two given missions by Derrick, you won't meet him again.

If you kill Derrick, make sure to phone Francis while on the rooftop if you need extra money. He will say he'll give you double.....$20,000!

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The_Anti-tragedy

Killing either one doesn't give you any more missions. They're just part of the same mission string that happens. Derrick's, Gerry's, and Francis' missions unlock Blood Brothers, then regardless of who you kill, you'll still do Undertaker. The only difference is the person who is dead and the different cemetaries. Then you do Gerry's missions from prison, then all the missions all unlock One Last Thing.

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RED_

I killed Derrick and Frankie's reward is a bit sh*t. You can get rid of heat on you but half the time he doesn't answer his bloody one. I'm quite far ahead of that mission now and I've only used his reward twice because he never picks up his phone.

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unc13bud

that's good to know. i never gave it a second thought myself, cause francis is crooked police. i loved derrick's entedre about his phone "this is the last bit of juice i got on this thing"

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lol232

You don't get 2 Missions, that is complete bullsh*t,

From "Undertaker" nothing else happens.

 

I am one of 1/3 among with Miro who usually kills Derrick.

Francis may be a crook but Derrick is slowly trying to kill himself, alcoholic, running away from his family - yeah, I'd rather kill derrick.

 

Also, if you are aiming to kill Derrick, call Francis before sniping him, he will ask you ti give you are "rise", accept it and you will Double the amount of money you get tounge2.gif .

Edited by lol232

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ThomGTA

I kill Francis.

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KBG

Derrick. If you are in serious monetary problems.

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B Dawg

I killed Francis. f*ck the pigs :p

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KBG

And a dickhead like you!

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yahtzee96738

Derrick. He seemed indecent as a person and he was the one that I was being paid to kill.

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Mr_Leone

Derrick betrayed his friends in Ireland and lived with those demons for his entire life. Killing him was better for Niko and Packie imo. Francis wouldn't touch Packie so having him alive sort of helped.

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Don Corleone~>

Can anybody help me? after killing one of them. what to do?

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Lock n' Stock

Doesn't Packie mention that Derrick is dead anyway during GTA V? If that's so, I wanted to leave enough McRearys alive, so I put Gerald out of his misery and spared Francis, plus I could use him to eliminate my wanted levels, even though the phone contact disappears once you've completed the story.

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fefenc

You mean derrick, right?

 

Derrick dies in GTA IV and Roman lives, it's cannon for GTA V

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Pavle

Maybe Niko killed Francis, and Derrick died sometime between 2008 and 2013. But Roman is still alive since Franklin's cousin Tavell mentions his cab service and you can see that he is listed as one of Niko's friends on Live Invader. And the choice of killing Francis follows Niko's moral code.

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Kampret

Maybe Niko killed Francis, and Derrick died sometime between 2008 and 2013. But Roman is still alive since Franklin's cousin Tavell mentions his cab service and you can see that he is listed as one of Niko's friends on Live Invader. And the choice of killing Francis follows Niko's moral code.

 

This. I can tell by their dialogue that Niko liked Derrick more than Francis.

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MrVance

That was an easy choice for me, i killed that mess of Derrick, a drunk f*cking snitch. Francis was crooked alright but Derrick was a f*cking mess. Besides clearing the wanted level when needed to finish some long and tough mission is the best reward you can get in this game. Better than million $ which you have nothing to spend on anyway. By that point you have more than quarter of million $ so 10x more than you actually need. What will you spend it on? You got the all the guns and ammo you need and you can carry for 30000 or 40000$.

I really never understood the sense of making so much money in this game and nothing to spend it on.

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Pavle

That was an easy choice for me, i killed that mess of Derrick, a drunk f*cking snitch. Francis was crooked alright but Derrick was a f*cking mess. Besides clearing the wanted level when needed to finish some long and tough mission is the best reward you can get in this game. Better than million $ which you have nothing to spend on anyway. By that point you have more than quarter of million $ so 10x more than you actually need. What will you spend it on? You got the all the guns and ammo you need and you can carry for 30000 or 40000$.

I really never understood the sense of making so much money in this game and nothing to spend it on.

You can't use Frankie's ability after the final mission in the game.

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Tao Cheng

I think Niko would have finished off Derrick since that dude is a wreck and may eventually snitch that Niko killed Francis. He may not like Francis, but it seems like he's actually doing service to the community and it's a plus that Niko is good at haggling the price against him.

 

Killed Francis knowing that Derrick will die eventually... Wished the Deal ending was canon so that Kate will be the only one left to take care of the mother. Since the so claimed Revenge is the real ending, it makes a better tragedy that she's now alone.

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MrVance

 

That was an easy choice for me, i killed that mess of Derrick, a drunk f*cking snitch. Francis was crooked alright but Derrick was a f*cking mess. Besides clearing the wanted level when needed to finish some long and tough mission is the best reward you can get in this game. Better than million $ which you have nothing to spend on anyway. By that point you have more than quarter of million $ so 10x more than you actually need. What will you spend it on? You got the all the guns and ammo you need and you can carry for 30000 or 40000$.

I really never understood the sense of making so much money in this game and nothing to spend it on.

You can't use Frankie's ability after the final mission in the game.

 

I don`t care since i don`t need to clearing the wanted level after the main storyline. If i get into a fight with cops i just die. But when i`m doing some long tough mission where all you got left to complete it is clearing thee wanted level, that is usefull. And i don`t use cheats so calling Francis it`s a benefit for me. I`ve only called him 3x and he always picked up.

There is no checkpoints in IV so you got to do it all over again if you die or geting arested and that sucks. And failing the mission because i can`t evade 3+ wanted level is the main reason for me to fail.

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Shadowfennekin

I always kill Francis cause he's an ass

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MrVance

I never had hard decisions to make in IV when it comes to killing person A or B.

I killed Playboy X instead of Dwaine because he was a f*cking wannabe, greedy, narcistic and hypocrite son of a bitch. And i felt bad about Dwaine`s sad life out of jail, i felt as sorry for him almost as i would feel it for some real life`s friend. I was happy to spare his life and i was calling him frequently to hang out with him but he never picked up a phone.

 

I killed Derrick instead of Francis because he was a drunk f*cking mess. And because of that wanted level thing benefit.

 

And i chosed the revenge on Dmitri over the deal because he was such a sad prick, i hated him from the 1.st mission i met him. Oh and of course to spare Roman`s life. I can`t imagine how would it have felt without him. Sure he was annoying sometimes with his darts but i liked him very much. And there is no GTA IV without Roman. And when i picked the deal over revenge just to see how it would look like (i didn`t save that progress of course) than when Roman got shot, that scene was so sad i almost got tears in my eyes lol. I felt almost as sad as i was when 1.st time playing RDR when John Marston got killed at the end.

 

Anyway how many of you guys killed Darko Brevic? Or did you spare his miserable addict life? I didn`t, he had close encounter with .50 caliber bullet out of desert eagle :catspider:

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Ryhan'ZFX

I never had hard decisions to make in IV when it comes to killing person A or B.

I killed Playboy X instead of Dwaine because he was a f*cking wannabe, greedy, narcistic and hypocrite son of a bitch. And i felt bad about Dwaine`s sad life out of jail, i felt as sorry for him almost as i would feel it for some real life`s friend. I was happy to spare his life and i was calling him frequently to hang out with him but he never picked up a phone.

 

I killed Derrick instead of Francis because he was a drunk f*cking mess. And because of that wanted level thing benefit.

 

And i chosed the revenge on Dmitri over the deal because he was such a sad prick, i hated him from the 1.st mission i met him. Oh and of course to spare Roman`s life. I can`t imagine how would it have felt without him. Sure he was annoying sometimes with his darts but i liked him very much. And there is no GTA IV without Roman. And when i picked the deal over revenge just to see how it would look like (i didn`t save that progress of course) than when Roman got shot, that scene was so sad i almost got tears in my eyes lol. I felt almost as sad as i was when 1.st time playing RDR when John Marston got killed at the end.

 

Anyway how many of you guys killed Darko Brevic? Or did you spare his miserable addict life? I didn`t, he had close encounter with .50 caliber bullet out of desert eagle :catspider:

i had the same feeling toward gta 4 choice mission....that was exactly what i did, by the way, about Darko...i preffered to spare his life cuz better to let someone suffer from his own ''dark" past and addict (Spare Darko) than live with something that was just a history but doesn't change the way you move on (Kill Darko)....sorry if my grammar sucks

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Jeansowaty

I find it nice that someone bumped this thread as I was about to ask in a similar matter: Why do people spare Derrick over Francis? (beware of spoilers, but eh, everyone completed the game anyway)

 

Both of them in my opinion are far from being saints and are miserable bastards. However, there are some reasons which made me believe that killing Derrick is the canon choice. Derrick wasn't betrayed, no. HE was the one to be the traitor. He f*cked over his old drinking buddies and ratted them out to the cops. He was about to do this with his brother as well, he would snitch on his freaking brother, come on. I don't have any siblings but to be fair, if my brother would be a real dickhead and wouldn't care about me, I still wouldn't betray him. He would sell out everyone, Packie, Niko, Kate, his mother just fora couple of bucks to get more smack.

 

Now Francis, he may have been the worse one for Niko, blackmailing him and whatnot, but you gotta admit, he fits in the crazy McReary family like a glove - as Niko put it "you're a crook hiding behind a badge". But apart from that, he only ordered people to get killed who might have revealed his wrongdoings to daylight. Now if I look at it, that's really similar to his brother, he also tasked Niko to eliminate people who might squeal about his betrayal. Though, the targets whom he wanted dead were indeed a threat to society (sans for Tom Goldberg), pimps, drug dealers etc. Even if it was just to justify his actions, he did the community a favor to some degree. I'm aware that Bucky and Aiden were also criminals but come on, Aiden was an old guy who I doubt would do anything bad since he was imprisoned and Bucky, well, look at Niko. He was screwed over by Dimitri and wanted him dead. Bucky was screwed over by Derrick and wanted him dead. It's a normal reaction I guess.

 

Now, killing Francis yields you nothing at all, Derrick won't even talk to you anymore. Derrick's death gives you a total of 20,000$ and the ability to lose the cops until the end of the game (remember, killing Dwayne gives you 25,000$ but offing Playboy is far more rewarding, I mean, a penthouse, his Deagle, potentially his unique Patriot, Claude's clothes, Dwayne and his backup etc.). On my first playthrough I sniped Derrick outta random because a friend of mine whom I asked about his opinion told me to do so. I never regretted doing that.

 

So why is Derrick always considered the good one and spared even though he is equally crooked if not worse than Francis?

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The Rockstar Gamer 108

We have two choices here. Kill Derrick or Kill Francis.

 

Earnings for killing Francis:

You get $0.

A corrupt cop gets eliminated in Liberty City. (That's a good job)

Mission Undertaker will be slightly easier.

 

Earnings for killing Derrick:

You get $10000 (It can be increased to $20000 by calling Francis again)

Get Francis' special ability to lose 3★ wanted level.

The mission Undertaker will be slighter difficult.

 

The choosing between the both actually depends on the player.

If he respects the city, he must kill a corrupt cop rather than a theif, coz a person becomes theif or criminal coz he/she has no choice & maybe had/has some urgent issues. Slowly he/she gets dragged to the criminal world, I.e. underworld. A curropt cop supports this. Thus, wiping out a corrupt cop is a part of wiping out a part of corruption in the city.

If the player wants money & ease, he can kill Derrick. You get more money & an extra feature.

Edited by The American Army 1775

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