mkey82 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 There are a few constants in gaming today and one of them is R*'s disposition towards PC gamers. I had hope quite a few times and was slammed down hard. How does the saying go: fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. Don't allow me to poison your positive vibes, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildstyle91 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 snip I agree with what you say but if what you say is true, then why are R* releasing the PC version of Max Payne 3 around the same time as consoles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangsta-NL Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 (edited) Releasing the PC version later is smart business. Many people would download it if their PC can run the game properly. Releasing the game for PC 6 months later is smart: most people who have a console already bought it. f*cking piracy. Edited May 2, 2012 by Gangsta-NL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xNewtype Acex Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Releasing the PC version later is smart business. Many people would download it if their PC can run the game properly. Releasing the game for PC 6 months later is smart: most people who have a console already bought it. f*cking piracy. I just hope you know that there is piracy on consoles too, but you know how it goes you're not supposed to say anything bad about the biggest moneymaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunrise Driver Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Releasing the PC version later is smart business. Many people would download it if their PC can run the game properly. Releasing the game for PC 6 months later is smart: most people who have a console already bought it. f*cking piracy. Your post is narrow-minded, prejudiced, stereotyped and retarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangsta-NL Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 (edited) Releasing the PC version later is smart business. Many people would download it if their PC can run the game properly. Releasing the game for PC 6 months later is smart: most people who have a console already bought it. f*cking piracy. Your post is narrow-minded, prejudiced, stereotyped and retarded. Please, tell me why? Edited May 2, 2012 by Gangsta-NL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The__Phoenix Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 is a logical relationship, the less money to earn the less urgency for launch a game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theworldfamous Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 No developer is making money on the pc anymore.. that's the only reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkey82 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 snip I agree with what you say but if what you say is true, then why are R* releasing the PC version of Max Payne 3 around the same time as consoles? Like I already stated, GTA is a console seller. MP is, more or less, yet another TPS action game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBNL Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 What ever it comes later, i do hope it has good performance on PC.. not like 30FPS.. i would like to have 60FPS and no frame-drops + Anti-aliasing. Hope its not so bad as GTA IV was on PC when it released.. No PC could run it very well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumper2011 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 ... because consoles are the main focus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilsvern Posted May 2, 2012 Author Share Posted May 2, 2012 ... because consoles are the main focus. then it must change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treyarchz Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Because Most Devs Don't Care About Pc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King16 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Qupted from the Max Payne 3 Fansite Event Impressions Page. SystemsPorted from console to PC? f*ck no! When GTA IV came out on PC, it was barely playable. Performance issues plagued the game, and it chugged along slowly on systems that should’ve had no problem with it. Rockstar reassured us that Max Payne gamers wouldn’t face a similar situation. Max Payne 3 was built for each system, and this commitment is immediately obvious when you play for the first time - it doesn’t matter what system you’re on, it just feels right. The PC version in particular kicks so much ass, you’ll find yourself giggling like a twelve year old schoolgirl as you throw Max into the middle of chaotic gunfights, taking more chances and pulling crazier stunts than you would with a controller. (Ah, the joys of aiming with a mouse!) If that wasn’t good enough, the game should scale extremely well across a range of different system builds. I think were in for a real treat. They seem to realise what happened with GTA IV, looks like they have fixed it all up nice and proper no matter which way they do it. And if its this good on MP3, its gonna be mega refined for GTA V. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaceeinstein Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 (edited) I don't understand how IV PC is getting a bad reputation. SA PC should be getting that since it performed even worse than IV. I can play IV on my computer just fine, even better than many PC games out there. I've looked at major IV YouTubers' computer specs and they aren't that truly amazing, yet they managed to record and play the game just fine without the apparent problems other people are having. Is MP3 a free roam game? Because most corridor shooters renders much less environment than free roam games. If V came out with MP3's improved engine but without any modifications, I bet people will stream in complaints about performance issues. Look at RDR, a free roam game like IV. That hasn't come to PC yet. I bet R* noticed that the average gamer isn't ready for RAGE to run on their PC. Edited May 2, 2012 by spaceeinstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkey82 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 I think were in for a real treat. They seem to realise what happened with GTA IV, looks like they have fixed it all up nice and proper no matter which way they do it. And if its this good on MP3, its gonna be mega refined for GTA V. According to many people there's nothing wrong with GTAIV, hence I don't know what's the guy you're quoting talking about. /sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King16 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 You obviously have misinterpreted what they are saying. They are not saying GTA IV as a game is bad in any sense. Its that when they ported it onto PC for a release, it was done so horribly that it was incredibly buggy and caused crashes and numerous other problems for gamers trying to play it. This was improved on with the EFLC releases. Thats what they are saying, that the ports to the PC make the platform experience so much more easier and smoother with Max Payne 3. And what I'm saying is that they will now improve on it further for GTA V making the PC Version an even sweeter experience for people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkey82 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 That is what I was referring to, there are many people who're ready to state there is nothing wrong technically with GTAIV on PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbatron Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Generally history does suggest there won't be a simultaneous release. However, the current gen consoles are now in their twilight years. Perhaps there is more argument to lead with the PC now because the hardware is still improving. For the consoles, the hardware is the same as it was for IV (I'm assuming the next gen is to far away for V to be launched on them) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qu-2incy Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 (edited) The piracy argument is just a joke, the fact is I know enough persons that have 'pirated' their console and play whatever game they want for free. They actually know that there are a lot of children who play on console and just ask their parents to buy the game; needless to say that most of parents don't care about PEGI information and all that. Personally, when I talk with people who play on console, I mean they have all the GTA's BEFORE me and they don't even know the storyline, come on! I don't make a kind of generality but it piss-d me off! really! R* is nice, they probably have the best game ever realised with GTA San Andreas (just one example) but they ruin the game with weird port! Sometimes, I feel like buy a console and skip my PC just to have a great port and a game earlier. Edited May 2, 2012 by Qu-2incy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTomi Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 I don't understand how IV PC is getting a bad reputation. SA PC should be getting that since it performed even worse than IV. I can play IV on my computer just fine, even better than many PC games out there. I've looked at major IV YouTubers' computer specs and they aren't that truly amazing, yet they managed to record and play the game just fine without the apparent problems other people are having. Is MP3 a free roam game? Because most corridor shooters renders much less environment than free roam games. If V came out with MP3's improved engine but without any modifications, I bet people will stream in complaints about performance issues. Look at RDR, a free roam game like IV. That hasn't come to PC yet. I bet R* noticed that the average gamer isn't ready for RAGE to run on their PC. The problem might be RAGE itself. For instance, Mafia II used 2K's Illusion engine, and it had better graphics than IV. Still, Mafia II's requirements were much lower and it ran like a charm. 2K did an amazing job in my opinion, I just don't understand why R* can't do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qu-2incy Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 I always thought the same thing about Mafia II. When I first played it, I was pretty impressed and asked myself how R* couldn't make the same work on their adaptations on PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xNewtype Acex Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 (edited) When porting over, the game loses it's atmosphere. It happened with SA, and IV. What exactly do you mean by this? No developer is making money on the pc anymore.. that's the only reason. This is so frucking retarded it's hurting me physically, thanks for reducing the IQ of everyone in this thread. Valve? Nope, not making any money. CDProjekt? Not making any money. GSC Games? According to you, nada. Go take your dumb shlt somewhere else. Edited May 3, 2012 by xNewtype Acex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dildo Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 there is piracy on consoles too yes but not ANYWHERE NEAR as much as on PC. it's much more difficult - by comparison - to pirate console games than to pirate PC games. the piracy issue on consoles is barely a fraction of the amount seen with the PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACR Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 there is piracy on consoles too yes but not ANYWHERE NEAR as much as on PC. it's much more difficult - by comparison - to pirate console games than to pirate PC games. the piracy issue on consoles is barely a fraction of the amount seen with the PC. Really? There are people who buy their consoles and pay someone to install little chip so they can play pirate copies without problem. Also they can install software program to play online with pirated copies, something you can't do with pirated PC game. Also those who pirate on PC must wait for crack release which could last from 1-30 days depending on protection and console players got early access to most of games. So piracy excuse is really ridiculous, it's just a way to make more people who got short patience to buy consoles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dildo Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 There are people who buy their consoles and pay someone to install little chip so they can play pirate copies without problem. Also they can install software program to play online with pirated copies, something you can't do with pirated PC game. I didn't deny any of that. but it doesn't change the fact that WAY more pirating occurs on the PC than on consoles right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACR Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 There are people who buy their consoles and pay someone to install little chip so they can play pirate copies without problem. Also they can install software program to play online with pirated copies, something you can't do with pirated PC game. I didn't deny any of that. but it doesn't change the fact that WAY more pirating occurs on the PC than on consoles right now. We don't know that for sure, if its easier to pirate games on console, more people will pirate it. It's a lot harder to detect console piracy, so there is no proof how many console gamers are actually pirates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dildo Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 We don't know that for sure, if its easier to pirate games on console, more people will pirate it. It's a lot harder to detect console piracy, so there is no proof how many console gamers are actually pirates. right now we actually do know that. it's not a big secret or anything. as it exists right now, it's easier to pirate for the PC than it is for consoles. generally speaking it's harder to detect console piracy. it's not impossible. there's a lot of voided warranties... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACR Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 We don't know that for sure, if its easier to pirate games on console, more people will pirate it. It's a lot harder to detect console piracy, so there is no proof how many console gamers are actually pirates. right now we actually do know that. it's not a big secret or anything. as it exists right now, it's easier to pirate for the PC than it is for consoles. generally speaking it's harder to detect console piracy. it's not impossible. there's a lot of voided warranties... How is easier to pirate for PC. On console you can also download game and play it from HDD without waiting for crack. The only thing we could say in defend of less console piracy is that maybe console users aren't aware of methods to play pirated games on their consoles, but internet changed that. Why would someone buy game which he don't know what is like when he could try it for free and buy it later or not. PC and console gamers have same mentality in terms of piracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dildo Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Why would someone buy game which he don't know what is like when he could try it for free and buy it later or not. PC and console gamers have same mentality in terms of piracy. you just shot your own argument in the foot. at least console gamers have the ability to legally try games by RENTING them. on the PC that option does not exist. there's no viable rental service for PC games. apples, meet oranges... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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