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Ryan
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So I was just in the middle of playing some Battlefield 3 when my computer blue-screened. I rebooted and now my screen is all messed up and full of funny colours. Rebooted multiple times with the same result. So it seems my graphics card is fried which means I need a new one. My budget is $150-$300. I'm thinking for my price range, the GTX 560Ti, or GTX 570 would be my best bet. I don't really play a ton of games nor do I have to have my settings at maximum.

 

My system is an Intel Core i7 920, 12GB of DDR3, Asus P6X58D-e, 128GB SSD, 1TB HDD. Monitor resolution is 1680x1050.

 

Looking at getting whatever I buy from www.ncix.com

 

Slamman, if you're reading this, don't even bother posting. I need help, not your nonsense.

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Screw Gigabyte and their blue PCB's. Saw that EVGA 570 earlier. Looks like the best deal so far.

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leik oh em jeez!
Screw Gigabyte and their blue PCB's. Saw that EVGA 570 earlier. Looks like the best deal so far.

I agree 100%. Who in the hell would want a blue PCB? Black is best but I'd even take green over blue.

 

OT: I'd look for a 570 or 480. Obviously the 570 will be clocked a bit higher, but at the sacrifice of RAM. So they'll go back and forth between games as far as which is faster.

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Fozzy Fozborne

What kind of card do you currently have? Almost all cards come with 3 year warranty and if you have an eVGA card it's lifetime. XFX is double lifetime (lifetime for you and lifetime for the first person you sell it to).

 

But, if you want a new card anyway/don't qualify I do have a bit of advice. From reading reviews people have said the 560Ti 448 core version is very nearly as fast (like 97% as fast) for a bit of a discount.

 

Check this out, which is $30 cheaper than the 570 at $229.

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It was a generic GTX 285. Came from a pre-built. No warranty on it. Served me well for the last 4 years.

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leik oh em jeez!

I really don't know why the 480 is always ignored.

http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=68760&vp...GA&promoid=1067

 

$250 with an instant rebate. We all know you'll be too lazy to send in the MIR in time to get it back. (Don't worry, all of us are just as lazy.)

And considering it's faster than some of he more expensive 560's posted, it's a great buy.

http://www.hwcompare.com/11144/geforce-gtx...gtx-560-ti-448/

 

570 isn't to be forgotten either, at $270 before the MIR.

http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=58573&vp...GA&promoid=1058

http://www.hwcompare.com/11142/geforce-gtx...eforce-gtx-570/

 

Both are EVGA cards with a nice black PCB and Lifetime 3-year warranties.

I stand corrected.

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I posted the same topic over on another forum and they're all suggesting me I should wait for the GTX 660 to come out. Can't help but wonder if I'm going to be investing $300 into a new GPU if that's what I should do. Ahh, decisions decisions. panic.gif

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I really don't know why the 480 is always ignored.

http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=68760&vp...GA&promoid=1067

 

$250 with an instant rebate. We all know you'll be too lazy to send in the MIR in time to get it back. (Don't worry, all of us are just as lazy.)

And considering it's faster than some of he more expensive 560's posted, it's a great buy.

http://www.hwcompare.com/11144/geforce-gtx...gtx-560-ti-448/

 

570 isn't to be forgotten either, at $270 before the MIR.

http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=58573&vp...GA&promoid=1058

http://www.hwcompare.com/11142/geforce-gtx...eforce-gtx-570/

 

Both are EVGA cards with a nice black PCB and Lifetime warranties.

Not all of them will have lifetime warranty. It depends on which one you get by looking at the suffix.

From evga/warranty

 

1 year limited: -B1, -BR*, -BX, -DR, -RX**

2 year limited: -LA, -LE, -LR, -LX, -T1, -T2, -TR, -TX

3 year limited: -KR, -K1, -K2, -KB

5 year limited: -GR

10 year limited: -XR

Limited lifetime: -A1, -A2, -A3, -A4, -AR, -AX, -CR, -CX, -DX, -FR, -FX, -SG, -SX

 

Both that GTX 480 you picked and the GTX560 Ti 448 I picked ends in -KR so that's only 3 year warranty.

Here is a GTX 570 ending in -AR which gets limited lifetime warranty.

http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=57362&vp...GA&promoid=1067

As for the limited lifetime warranty, most will have to make sure what it really means?

Some is you get limited lifetime when the card is still on shelve life. When the card is EOL, your warranty expires.

Others are when a card is EOL, you get a equal to or greater card if the one you purchased is no longer manufactured.

 

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leik oh em jeez!

 

Both that GTX 480 you picked and the GTX560 Ti 448 I picked ends in -KR so that's only 3 year warranty.

Well f*ck. They all used to have lifetime warranties. confused.gif

EVGA must be cheaping out. Times have changed I suppose.

 

 

I posted the same topic over on another forum and they're all suggesting me I should wait for the GTX 660 to come out. Can't help but wonder if I'm going to be investing $300 into a new GPU if that's what I should do. Ahh, decisions decisions.  panic.gif

I'm looking at what is apparently leaked specifications. If it really is a 1536Mb card with 1152 cores that only sips 150 watts with a release price of $250, then I too suggest you wait for it.

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I posted the same topic over on another forum and they're all suggesting me I should wait for the GTX 660 to come out. Can't help but wonder if I'm going to be investing $300 into a new GPU if that's what I should do. Ahh, decisions decisions.  panic.gif

I'm looking at what is apparently leaked specifications. If it really is a 1536Mb card with 1152 cores that only sips 150 watts with a release price of $250, then I too suggest you wait for it.

Yeah, I agree. If only there was an estimated release date. If it was in a few weeks, I'd wait, but if it's going to be months, not sure if I can wait that long.

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Yeah, I agree. If only there was an estimated release date. If it was in a few weeks, I'd wait, but if it's going to be months, not sure if I can wait that long.

Do you have a back up card or onboard graphics you can use and play games on low settings, or just refrain from gaming during the wait?

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According to this guy from OcUK, the 660 won't be out till 6 months.

 

If that's true, then a 7870 or 570 should be the main choice currently. smile.gif

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I would definitely go for the 570 over the 480.

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The 480 is good card but it's like 2 years old now. Same with the Nvidia 5xx series, it's only about a year old but I would recommend you take a look at the ATi 7870 or 7850 like PrometheusX said wink.gif

 

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Quick question: Are you 100% sure the card is bad and it's not something else that could cause this?

Do you have any other card you can swap out to see if you get the same result?

 

I just don't want you spending money on a new card to end up with the same issue

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Unfortunately I don't have any other cards to try and I don't have on-board video either. I don't know what else would cause it. The system boots up perfectly fine into Windows and I can see everything behind all the funny colors on the screen. I don't know what else would be the cause other than the video card.

 

EDIT: Think I just found my problem. I have a fan on my side panel and just noticed one of the two cables had popped out of the connector attached the motherboard fan header and was sitting on top of the PCB confused.gif

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EDIT: Think I just found my problem. I have a fan on my side panel and just noticed one of the two cables had popped out of the connector attached the motherboard fan header and was sitting on top of the PCB confused.gif

So the marks on the screen are gone now and all is normal?

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EDIT: Think I just found my problem. I have a fan on my side panel and just noticed one of the two cables had popped out of the connector attached the motherboard fan header and was sitting on top of the PCB  confused.gif

So the marks on the screen are gone now and all is normal?

No, still there. I'm guessing the fan cable lying on top of the PCB probably fried it.

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EDIT: Think I just found my problem. I have a fan on my side panel and just noticed one of the two cables had popped out of the connector attached the motherboard fan header and was sitting on top of the PCB  confused.gif

So the marks on the screen are gone now and all is normal?

No, still there. I'm guessing the fan cable lying on top of the PCB probably fried it.

If there's no proper cooling, it's a FAIL, not having a plastic connector touching the PCB, I've decided I like blue, my favorite color, blue PCB is a win for me

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Hopefully this will explain

 

user posted image

 

One of the two cables from the case fan nearby was lying on top of the video card PCB. I'm guessing it fell out while my computer was on thus causing it to short or out or something which is the cause of my problems.

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Find a friend with a spare card that you can barrow for test just to see if there is a difference.

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Do a print screen of your desktop, then save it with MSpaint. Now take that print screen and open it with another computer or upload it here.

If picture is normal, without funny colors, then it's your monitor.

If picture contains the same funny colors, then it's your video card.

I doubt it's the fan header lying on top of the PCB that is causing the problem because the cables are mostly tucked inside a plastic header.

 

As for the pic, what angle are we looking at? Will this pic be of some help?

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leik oh em jeez!

@stinky: I believe he's saying the pin popped out of the plastic header.

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Hence, no proper cooling...if the fans on the GPU come unplugged, which was what I was thinking, in narrowing down the troubleshooting aspect, prior I'd be debating the sense in solving with throwing large amounts of cash at replacement parts cost, but again, if you have the budget and you plan a wise INVESTMENT, there's nothing wrong with it either

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leik oh em jeez!

It's not the fan on the GPU. He said it was the wire for the case fan, but it landed on the GPU. Regardless of what fan comes unplugged, you can't just feed +12v onto random points on the back of a graphics card and not fry it.

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@Slamman: It has nothing to do with cooling you moron. There's a reason I asked you not to post here and that's cause your advice is terrible and irrelevant, now GTFO.

 

The picture I posted would be looking from the front of case. And to clarify, it was nothing to do with the fan on my graphics card. It's a case fan on my side panel near the graphics card I'm talking about. One of the two cables from the case fan came out of the plastic fan header that was attached to my motherboard and landed on top of the graphics card PCB. I'm thinking that it probably shorted it out.

 

Picture of my screen. Notice all the lines across it. Won't even boot up into Windows now. Getting into the BIOS is as far as I can get now. Got nothing to lose, so going to try baking it later and see if that does anything.

 

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@stinky: I believe he's saying the pin popped out of the plastic header.

The pin has a backwards hook that will make it impossible for the connector to pop out of the plastic header, even when you pull it with full force, that head will not come out. If it does pop out on its own, then that pin is already damaged to begin with.

 

@Ryan

It's your graphic card.

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leik oh em jeez!

 

Got nothing to lose, so going to try baking it later and see if that does anything.

I understand you've got nothing to lose, but at the same time baking isn't really going to do much assuming it was a short that damaged the card. Baking fixes problems where the GPU overheats and melts the solder contacts between the GPU and the board, causing a break. (Same thing happens with the xbox 360. Thats why sticking toothpicks in the fans for 15 minutes can fix RROD) It's a common (temporary) fix for OCers because, well overclocked cards tend to overheat.

 

Seeing as how you'll probably do it anyways, make sure you make aluminum foil balls to place the card on so you don't melt anything. Make sure you take any plastic covers off and DO NOT place it GPU-down if you take the heat sink off.

 

 

The pin has a backwards hook that will make it impossible for the connector to pop out of the plastic header, even when you pull it with full force, that head will not come out. If it does pop out on its own, then that pin is already damaged to begin with.

In ideal situations, yes. But as you mentioned there is the possibility of previous damage, along with broken wires or plastic.

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