Dragonjack Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 (edited) Sup GTAF! I'm starting a gaming topic about Fallout 4 with some News setting announcements & Rumors and more! Will fallout 4 be announced at E3? Just gueesing Post your ideas and Have your say plz. Just found something recently beshesda is hiring next-Gen programmers & uannouced game? heres the link check it out http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive...n-consoles.aspx Don't know if you heard. Edited March 20, 2012 by Dragonjack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentlemanSquid Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 I doubt Fallout 4 will be out any time soon, they have just finished Skyrim and currently working on DLC. I am guessing that they have split the team so they can work on Fallout 4, but I wouldn't expect anything for a couple of years. Most gaming companies are hiring for next-gen consoles, mostly as a back-up and to be future proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonjack Posted March 20, 2012 Author Share Posted March 20, 2012 (edited) I doubt Fallout 4 will be out any time soon, they have just finished Skyrim and currently working on DLC. I am guessing that they have split the team so they can work on Fallout 4, but I wouldn't expect anything for a couple of years. Most gaming companies are hiring for next-gen consoles, mostly as a back-up and to be future proof. I Hope so...because its been long since fallout 3 was released in 08 Do you know went was fallout 3 first announcement was it 06? i can't remember ITS BEEN TO LONG! Edited March 20, 2012 by Dragonjack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anus Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 The only way I'm buying this game is if Obsidian do it, Bethesda can f*ck themselves. The more I play New Vegas, the more I realise how sh*tty Fallout 3 was and how much of an insult to the Fallout name it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOSEPH X Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 I wouldn't call FO3 an insult to anything, it was a great game. And I think anyone working at BGS who isn't involved in skyrim DLC will be hard at work making Fallout 4. Let's hope it is on the next gen because my poor little xbox can't walk and chew gum at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefly8000 Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Yeah Fallout 3 is alright when it comes to gameplay, but it's pretty crap compared to New Vegas. It's a great game for people who are new to the series, but for those who played the first 2 it's a mess. The story is a cheap rehash of the first and second games, and contradicts most things the first 2 games told us. Since when were Super Mutants babbling idiots? They should leave it to Obsidian to write the story atleast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 I wouldn't call FO3 an insult to anything, it was a great game. It contradicted major story elements of the first two games, it was rife with cliche and plot holes, the gameplay mechanics were sub-par for an RPG (when you can max out every skill on the same character, it's hardly even an RPG), and overall it is just not as good as any of the other Fallout games. I challenge you to find a single person who began the series with either Fallout 1 or 2 who legitimately prefers Fallout 3 over either of them. I will be very surprised if you manage to find anyone. I'm with Warlord on this one. After they f*cked Obsidian over on New Vegas by only giving them an initial payment and absolutely no royalties (which means every single dollar made from New Vegas sales went straight to ZeniMax), I will not support them any further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omgz153 Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 My two favorite games ever are Fallout 3 and New Vegas. Man I can't wait for the new installment to be announced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireman Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 I wouldn't call FO3 an insult to anything, it was a great game. It contradicted major story elements of the first two games, it was rife with cliche and plot holes, the gameplay mechanics were sub-par for an RPG (when you can max out every skill on the same character, it's hardly even an RPG), and overall it is just not as good as any of the other Fallout games. I challenge you to find a single person who began the series with either Fallout 1 or 2 who legitimately prefers Fallout 3 over either of them. I will be very surprised if you manage to find anyone. You could say the same thing about Fallout: New Vegas. I prefered Fallout III over Fallout New Vegas though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonjack Posted March 20, 2012 Author Share Posted March 20, 2012 I'm really looking forward about the setting, My best guess is Canada or stay in america fighting off some super mutants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dildo Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 in this thread: old fanboys cry about how their game changed in a way that they don't like even though FO3 and NV were incredibly successful, garnered near-universal praise, and added a lot of new fans to the franchise. but they're obviously newfags because the oldfags know better and they're pissed I enjoyed FO3, NV and their DLC's. I'll probably buy FO4 if it looks good regardless of what studio produces it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 in this thread: old fanboys cry about how their game changed in a way that they don't like even though FO3 and NV were incredibly successful, garnered near-universal praise, and added a lot of new fans to the franchise.but they're obviously newfags because the oldfags know better and they're pissed Except I enjoy Fallout 1, 2, and New Vegas equally, so the whole "it's new so it's bad" argument does not come into play here at all. The fact that it was successful and added new fans means nothing to me, because I can just as easily use that argument to claim that Modern Warfare 3 is an incredible game. It's not about nostalgia, or fanboys, or oldfags and newfags - it's about Bethesda knowing absolutely jack sh*t about Fallout lore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dildo Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Except I enjoy Fallout 1, 2, and New Vegas equally then what's the problem?? explain to a newfag like me how terribly important the lore is. because it appeared that FO3 was supposed to be a sort of reboot for the franchise in which lore that came before does not necessarily have to be canon. anyone could pick up and enjoy FO3/NV without knowing anything about FO1/2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 explain to a newfag like me how terribly important the lore is. If you don't understand how important lore is in an RPG then I have nothing more to say to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dildo Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 the lore doesn't affect the story in FO since they graduated from isometric to 3D. like I just said, anyone could pick up and enjoy FO3/NV without knowing anything about FO1/2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Garcia Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 (edited) 404: Post not found Edited April 25, 2013 by Don Garcia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 I will not support them any further. Don't you have Skyrim? That's why I said "any further." As in, beyond this point in time. the lore doesn't affect the story in FO since they graduated from isometric to 3D. That's f*cking irrelevant to the lore. The graphics have absolutely no bearing on the lore at all. Let's use Modern Warfare 3 as an example again - if it had gone to an isometric view and suddenly Makarov was helping you save the world, would you be saying "well, there's nothing wrong with that, because lore doesn't matter!" like I just said, anyone could pick up and enjoy FO3/NV without knowing anything about FO1/2. That is still f*cking irrelevant. Like I said, we're not talking about new players or old players, we're talking about the lore itself, which you are completely disregarding because you do not believe it to be important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Garcia Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 (edited) 404: Post not found Edited April 25, 2013 by Don Garcia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Well, actually.... You said, "After they f*cked Obsidian over on New Vegas.....I will not support them any further." So unless Bethesda f*cked Obsidian over after you purchased Skyrim, you's a phony. It was revealed on Twitter that they were not given royalties after I had a legitimate copy of Skyrim, which I did not even purchase myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Garcia Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 (edited) 404: Post not found Edited April 25, 2013 by Don Garcia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefly8000 Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 the lore doesn't affect the story in FO since they graduated from isometric to 3D. like I just said, anyone could pick up and enjoy FO3/NV without knowing anything about FO1/2. Yes that's right, but at the same time, fans of F1 and F2 pick up F3 and are very disappointed with the storyline. Then Obsidian comes and makes a Fallout game that is true to the series' roots and also improved upon F3's gameplay, people are bound to want to see them make the next game in the series. It's not about saying "oh the lore doesn't matter anymore as new people will play the game" it's about making the game appeal to those new to the series and to those who've been around since the first game. Honestly, the third game's storyline is what you'd expect from a movie adaptation, they just took points from F1 and F2 and threw them together to make a storyline that strays far from the original lore. So please, don't try and say F3 was a reboot, because if it was, it shouldn't have had the 3 in the title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Royalties on the basis of a Metacritic score? That's ludicrous. Not even royalties, that was only a bonus. And, honestly, the fact that they were one point away on the score makes me wonder how legitimate it was. It's no secret that companies have paid for good Metacritic scores - what's to stop them from paying for bad scores? @Firefly: thank you for understanding what I'm trying to say here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dildo Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 (edited) That's f*cking irrelevant to the lore. The graphics have absolutely no bearing on the lore at all. lol wow, you need to calm down. your rage boner is blinding your ability to comprehend the English language. I never said that graphics had anything to do with lore. what I said is that the lore doesn't affect the story since the franchise moved to 3D because when they moved to 3D they more or less did a reset of the franchise; as if FO3 could be considered the first in a new generation, perhaps much in the same way as GTA had a "reset" of the franchise when they updated their engine between SA and GTA 4. the remake of Liberty City in GTA 4 could be considered just as much canon as the original Liberty City in GTA 3. get it now? jesus... slow down and think before you rage post. That is still f*cking irrelevant. Like I said, we're not talking about new players or old players, we're talking about the lore itself, which you are completely disregarding because you do not believe it to be important. I don't think it's not important, not inherently. I'm well aware of the importance of lore in general and especially to an RPG. but I also recognize that it is what it is and it's not uncommon for content creators to do this with numerous other game / book / movie franchises. things are updated and implemented for a new generation both in terms of the potential fanbase and to include features that weren't available to the original production. I just don't think it's important to FO3 itself or NV because both can be played and enjoyed without any knowledge of what came before. this is a fact and it is relevant. I understand why the lore is more important to someone who followed it from the beginning than someone who came along later. but you need to understand that this is just the way it is. unless you're going to write a bunch of angry letters to the Dev's or cry about it, suck it up and accept it. future FO games will still be great fun assuming they're made well; regardless of the lore. the "reboot" of a franchise doesn't have to throw out any connections to previous titles. they have every right to call Fallout 3 "Fallout 3." some butthurt old fanboys don't get to decide. Edited March 21, 2012 by El_Diablo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Killa Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 I thought Fallout 3 was a great game. Despite what you might think about lore, or whatever technical issue you found with it, it was ultimately a fun game that had me glued to it from start to finish. I loved it. Though personally I couldn't stand New Vegas at all. I'll happily await any FO4 news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dildo Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 personally I couldn't stand New Vegas at all. can I ask why? if you enjoyed FO3 then what changed? they're basically the same game in different locations. most people, if they were going to complain, thought NV was too similar to 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Killa Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 The story was completely uninteresting to me and didn't draw me in at all, I felt absolutely no connection to my, or any characters around me. I ran into a boatload of major technical issues, lost multiple saves, and I absolutely loathed the setting, it eventually got me so infuriated to even look at the box I eventually sold it. I know Fallout 3 had a large issues on it's own, but New Vegas was nearly unplayable for me. I guess it was bad luck? Granted, that was on the Xbox 360, and I'd be willing to give it a try on PC. But.. that f*cking setting man. Hate deserts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dildo Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 ouch. yes sounds like a pretty rancid run of bad luck. I've only ever played FO3 and NV on the PC. can't speak to the console experience. but I've never lost entire games or saves or ran into an issue that broke the game. the worst I encountered was an occasional CTD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Killa Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 ouch. yes sounds like a pretty rancid run of bad luck. I've only ever played FO3 and NV on the PC. can't speak to the console experience. but I've never lost entire games or saves or ran into an issue that broke the game. the worst I encountered was an occasional CTD. Hence one of the reasons I have a decent PC now, the Xbox was f*cking cursed I tell ye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Foster Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Agreed on the story part of FNV. I think New Vegas was more of an action adventure game than an RPG in terms of story, because it focused more on the factions, rather than the personal story arc. The personal story arc was done way early in the game. I enjoyed both games equally, but FO3 had more of a wasteland-ish feel, because D.C. was a complete warzone, while New Vegas was a nice city. Fallout is one of my favorite games, I'll buy it whoever makes it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OysterBarron Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Fallout 3 was a bitch for new players to get into the overcome feeling of freedom that the game gives you scared me of. It was only the third time i brought it that i finnaly got into it and it was my first installment in the fallout universe. I know i may get flamed but im really hoping we get borderlands style multiplayer with the next fallout. I wanna share the experience with friends the wasteland is a tad to lonly for my liking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
