markusizr 102 Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 i was at friend house today and he plays misson named The Made Man and mickey shoots jd and i was wtf why he killed for what leave your option why mickey shoot jd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackGuard 4 Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 JD worked for the Sindaco's and he betrayed them. The Leone's couldn't trust someone who had betrayed his own family. Ivan1997GTA, Copcaller and Dr Busta 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markusizr 102 Posted March 15, 2012 Author Share Posted March 15, 2012 JD worked for the Sindaco's and he betrayed them.The Leone's couldn't trust someone who had betrayed his own family. can you wear leone suit in misson the made man cos i forget to write on my first post and thanks for answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackGuard 4 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I think you can wear the Leone Suit in that mission but I'm not sure. And you don't have to use the quote function when you're responding to a post right above yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordy. 4 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Yes you can wear the suit. You can wear anything at all; even your underpants. Brian X 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDanceWithLance 3 Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 You can wear the Leone's Suit for any missions except for JD's missions, as prior to "The Made Man", he is still a Sindacco. However, during "The Made Man", you can wear the Leone's suit, as this is the day where JD ceases being a Sindacco Family member and (almost) becomes a Leone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrrhic 799 Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Same here man I was like WTF??? Coz on the drive there he's like "Oh the Sindaccos won't make me because of a bit of Irish ancestry" At first I thought we were going to salvatore's or something and then I realised we were going to the car crusher then BANG! LeatherJacketSoldier 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markusizr 102 Posted March 18, 2012 Author Share Posted March 18, 2012 Same here man I was like WTF??? Coz on the drive there he's like "Oh the Sindaccos won't make me because of a bit of Irish ancestry" At first I thought we were going to salvatore's or something and then I realised we were going to the car crusher then BANG! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roxanne77 0 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 (edited) removed Edited May 9, 2012 by Barguast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A2 MFK 12 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 I must admit I was prettty freaked on the mission "The making of Toni Cippriani" When the car pulls up and you have to drive with Micky sitting directly behind you, I expected it to be a boss mission like the Vincenso one. (Probably spelt wrong sorry) Copcaller, LeatherJacketSoldier, Dr Busta and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanGeek 2 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Mickey is a killer LOL,he always sits behind at the back seats to shoot the front seats xD Copcaller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markusizr 102 Posted May 16, 2012 Author Share Posted May 16, 2012 Mickey is a killer LOL,he always sits behind at the back seats to shoot the front seats xD why mickey was here in ceremony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitsuha 59 Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 ^he was hired by leone to whack JD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A2 MFK 12 Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Mickey is a killer LOL,he always sits behind at the back seats to shoot the front seats xD Lol XD When the mission started and I had to drive with Micky behind me I actually ran off to get ammo before I got in the car. LeatherJacketSoldier 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane X. Walsh 1 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 First Question, Why JD was killed in " The Made Man "? Because he works for Sinadacco due to his place at Red Light District which probably is Sinadacco's turf. JD actually a Leone member, during his influence with Sindacco, he turned back. About Mickey. Mickey is a Leone member, quite to be a same level with Vicenzo, he was paid by Salvatore to kill a betrayed JD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapapote 25 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 why mickey was here in ceremony In Toni's own ceremony? Maybe Salvatore wanted to test Toni's faith on the family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limefong 296 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Salvatore couldn't trust JD due to his betrayal of the Sindaccos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E Revere 616 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 (edited) It is implied during the game that JD was originally a Leone, but betrayed them to joim the Sindaccos instead. Now in the course of the game he wants to betray the Sindaccos and join back with the Leones. Sal simply couldn't trust the man who turned on his own kind not once, but twice. Cause if you think about it, JD didn't join back with the Leones because he thought they were fairer or better or anything, he only joined back with them because the Sindaccos wouldn't make him a made man so it was for his personal gain. The game could've done a better job at emphasising these points so his death could've been less eerie but what are you gonna do? Edited August 7, 2020 by E Revere LeatherJacketSoldier, Ivan1997GTA and H-G 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightouttaNewport 56 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 On 8/7/2020 at 6:18 AM, E Revere said: It is implied during the game that JD was originally a Leone, but betrayed them to joim the Sindaccos instead. Now in the course of the game he wants to betray the Sindaccos and join back with the Leones. Sal simply couldn't trust the man who turned on his own kind not once, but twice. Cause if you think about it, JD didn't join back with the Leones because he thought they were fairer or better or anything, he only joined back with them because the Sindaccos wouldn't make him a made man so it was for his personal gain. The game could've done a better job at emphasising these points so his death could've been less eerie but what are you gonna do? When was it stated that JD was originally a Leone? Don't remember that at all. Jeansowaty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E Revere 616 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 On 8/25/2020 at 7:28 PM, StraightouttaNewport said: When was it stated that JD was originally a Leone? Don't remember that at all. One of Vinnie's missions starts with dialogue like: "You remember JD O'Toole?" "Difficult to forget." "blah blah blah Interesting thing is, he wants to be a Leone now." "f*ck him. He made his choice." Dr Busta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_ROM30_ 52 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 JD was a snitch, its a pretty expected outcome for him in any kind of mafia. I think the real question here is, why did you have to drive to the car crusher to shoot him and not crush the car? You have to go dump it in the river. Copcaller, Dr Busta, Brian X and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashh 0 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 On 3/15/2012 at 9:23 AM, BlackGuard said: JD worked for the Sindaco's and he betrayed them. The Leone's couldn't trust someone who had betrayed his own family. Spoiler Spoiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OH76 909 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Because Salvatore didn't trust JD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platybus 65 Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 (edited) On 8/28/2020 at 8:51 AM, E Revere said: One of Vinnie's missions starts with dialogue like: "You remember JD O'Toole?" "Difficult to forget." "blah blah blah Interesting thing is, he wants to be a Leone now." "f*ck him. He made his choice." The exact transcript is: Vincenzo: Hey, remember JD O'Toole? Toni: Difficult to forget... Vincenzo: He's currently running a Sindacco-controlled titty-bar, I mean gentleman's club. The interesting thing is, he wants to be a Leone now. Toni: f*ck him! He made his choice. Thus, "his choice" could just mean him being "currently running a Sindacco-controlled titty-bar" instead of a "Leone-controlled" one. It's never stated he had been a Leone associate before being with the Sindaccos. Quote It is implied during the game that JD was originally a Leone, but betrayed them to joim the Sindaccos instead. Now in the course of the game he wants to betray the Sindaccos and join back with the Leones. Sal simply couldn't trust the man who turned on his own kind not once, but twice. Cause if you think about it, JD didn't join back with the Leones because he thought they were fairer or better or anything, he only joined back with them because the Sindaccos wouldn't make him a made man so it was for his personal gain. The game could've done a better job at emphasising these points so his death could've been less eerie but what are you gonna do? While it's true JD turned on the Sindaccos entirely for his own benefit, he only did so after he had been denied any further promotion due to something that was not his responsability (his heritage). There's also no reason to think he wouldn't betray the Leones if that could reap him some gains, just like he did with his original family, but that's not something we can know for sure. In my opinion, Sal made him get killed due to his increasing paranoia (which gets more fueled as the plot goes on). After CJ betrayed him in Las Venturas, I feel like he didn't want to take any chances, so he replaced JD with someone more trustworthy. That pragmatism would get him killed by Claude later. Edited June 25 by Platybus Typos. Copcaller and LeatherJacketSoldier 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copcaller 842 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Salvatore preferred to clean up loose ends by having them whacked he trusted few people after cj f*cked him over in 92. Pragmatically speaking it was smart to kill JD dude betrayed the sindaccos what's to think by 2001 he wouldn't sell the Leones out to the cartel or Yakuza or the feds. iiCriminnaaL and MrPikmin16 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeatherJacketSoldier 124 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 On 5/15/2012 at 1:29 PM, MoroccanGeek said: Mickey is a killer LOL,he always sits behind at the back seats to shoot the front seats xD Much like Peter "Pete" Clemenza in The Godfather. Only that Carlo Rizzi deserved it, O'Toole didn't. J.D. wasn't too smart to disguise a future betrayal, if he wanted to become a Leone just for material benefits, even Toni would have noticed it in no time (keep in mind that Toni asked Mickey why did he kill O'Toole). 11 hours ago, Copcaller said: Salvatore preferred to clean up loose ends by having them whacked he trusted few people after cj f*cked him over in 92. Pragmatically speaking it was smart to kill JD, dude betrayed the sindaccos, Yeah, you're right 11 hours ago, Copcaller said: what's to think by 2001 he wouldn't sell the Leones out to the cartel or Yakuza or the feds. Perhaps you meant "would"? I mean, you're speaking strictly of Sal's POV, as I said before I don't think O'Toole was going to betray the Leones. What I think is, that J.D. lacked of the mafia personality, he was more of a clown than a mafia goon. It would have been embarrasing for the Leones to have J.D. walking around on the streets in a Leone suit. Thus, Sal got him killed for the same reason the Sindaccos wouldn't make him, for prejudice, though it's only my particular opinion. And told Mickey to kill him for treason purposes. MrPikmin16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copcaller 842 Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 On 6/23/2021 at 8:45 AM, LeatherJacketSoldier said: Much like Peter "Pete" Clemenza in The Godfather. Only that Carlo Rizzi deserved it, O'Toole didn't. J.D. wasn't too smart to disguise a future betrayal, if he wanted to become a Leone just for material benefits, even Toni would have noticed it in no time (keep in mind that Toni asked Mickey why did he kill O'Toole). Yeah, you're right Perhaps you meant "would"? I mean, you're speaking strictly of Sal's POV, as I said before I don't think O'Toole was going to betray the Leones. What I think is, that J.D. lacked of the mafia personality, he was more of a clown than a mafia goon. It would have been embarrasing for the Leones to have J.D. walking around on the streets in a Leone suit. Thus, Sal got him killed for the same reason the Sindaccos wouldn't make him, for prejudice, though it's only my particular opinion. And told Mickey to kill him for treason purposes. Yeah he definitely had no intentions of letting him be made as he would lose face for letting a non Italian into the gang. Maybe be would have been loyal but maybe he wouldn't and Salvatore wisely didn't want to gamble on it. MrPikmin16 and LeatherJacketSoldier 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
