Who wants to see ties to San Andreas?

[73duster]

I know that it's a different era in the GTA series, but i think it would be great to see ties to the original San Andreas. I'd like to see older versions of CJ or the hippie. I'd also like to see how Grove street looks today. It would be interesting to see the houses gone and replaced by highrises, but keeping that familiar cul de sac street shape we remember. Again, i'm only talking about periodic trips down memory lane, like showing whats become of CJ. Is he a legitimate business owner? Is he in prison? Is he a homeless drug addict? Maybe the Hippie is a drug councelor, or an activist fighting big corporations. The game IS supposed to be representing the current state of the economy, so him leading some sort of occupy wall street movement would'nt be a stretch.

[Hidaweey]

there is too many topics about cj already

 

on topic : old cj

 

[omeromer]

It's takes place only 20 years later... carl is only 40-44 years old.. it's not that old

[73duster]

It's takes place only 20 years later... carl is only 40-44 years old.. it's not that old

Actually, if GTAV is based on the current era, then it's about 30 years later, but you're right, he looks too old. He should be between 50 and 55 years old.

[jdrandall38]

It's takes place only 20 years later... carl is only 40-44 years old.. it's not that old

Actually, if GTAV is based on the current era, then it's about 30 years later, but you're right, he looks too old. He should be between 50 and 55 years old.

Your math isn't very good. 2012 - 1992 = 20.

[Long_Haired_Boy]

It wouldn't make sense to have CJ virtually in the game but his voice could work.

 

Marinate.

[73duster]

It's takes place only 20 years later... carl is only 40-44 years old.. it's not that old

Actually, if GTAV is based on the current era, then it's about 30 years later, but you're right, he looks too old. He should be between 50 and 55 years old.

Your math isn't very good. 2012 - 1992 = 20.

LOL! You got me! What was i thinking?

[Zeichef]

The math is strong in this one

[73duster]

It wouldn't make sense to have CJ virtually in the game but his voice could work.

 

Marinate.

He would'nt be a major part of the game, but why would it make no sense for him to exist in Los Santos?

[Vormek]

I don't want to see any characters returning (It will never happen I know) but what I do want to see are references. Like in a few missions you will hear your boss saying something like " I remember twenty years ago, this place was a hell hole. Riots, drugs, corrupt police officers. Today things are settling down but I see how the streets are slowly going back to its roots".

 

You know what I mean right? Simple and small references like that really puts a smile to my face. Remember the mission in Las Venturas where CJ and Rosenberg are at some meat factory I think and Rosenberg mentions something about Tommy Vercetti and "good ol' times" and CJ replies "Who the f*** is Tommy?". Aaaah man, I laughed so hard.

And even though I don't want any old characters making a return it would be nice to have some characters RELATED to some of the old characters which we haven't seen or heard about in previous games. Like the brother of Big Smoke or something. You would do missions for him and he would often speak about Big Smoke and how greed got him killed and how some old friend killed him.

[jdrandall38]

It's takes place only 20 years later... carl is only 40-44 years old.. it's not that old

Actually, if GTAV is based on the current era, then it's about 30 years later, but you're right, he looks too old. He should be between 50 and 55 years old.

Your math isn't very good. 2012 - 1992 = 20.

LOL! You got me! What was i thinking?

lol damn public school system...

[Buffalo Soldier]

I want the whole of Los Santos to have the same sort of structure.

 

I mean Jefferson, Idle Wood, Glenn Park, Ganton - I couldn't give a flying f*ck if Rockstar make the map bigger and add new locations and stuff in, but It will annoy me to see Ganton renamed and Los Santos bearing no resemblance to it's 2004 counterpart at all.

It was fine when they did it to GTA IV, I honestly didn't play that much attention to the original liberty city anyway - but for San Andreas I want them to keep some elements the same.

 

I want to see Grove Street just located somewhere in Los Santos - so we can go to it and just take it all in, it'll be brilliant to see a revived version of Grove. If I can have anything in GTA 5 that's what I want - to see Grove Street, just for the memories and stuff.

 

And if Rockstar are still sticking to this 'It's a different universe' bollocks - then even if they simply have a few 'GROVE STREET FAMILIES 4 LYFE' or 'ROLLIN' HEIGHTS BALLAS!' tags still plastered on the walls from 20 Years ago, that would be a great little reference.

[Gtaghost22]

It's takes place only 20 years later... carl is only 40-44 years old.. it's not that old

Its not about how old he is.. R* said its a different "universe" so he wont make a return

[73duster]

It's takes place only 20 years later... carl is only 40-44 years old.. it's not that old

Its not about how old he is.. R* said its a different "universe" so he wont make a return

I know about the whole different universe thing, but i don't see why small references to the old San Andreas would hurt. Nobody is advocating that these things play a central part in the game, but simply pop up throughout the game, or while roaming around. If Rockstar is so adamant in keeping the past in the past, then why bother going back to Los Santos? They could easily have gone anywhere else to create GTAV's environment.

[Bad Azz]

 

I want the whole of Los Santos to have the same sort of structure.

 

I mean Jefferson, Idle Wood, Glenn Park, Ganton - I couldn't give a flying f*ck if Rockstar make the map bigger and add new locations and stuff in, but It will annoy me to see Ganton renamed and Los Santos bearing no resemblance to it's 2004 counterpart at all.

It was fine when they did it to GTA IV, I honestly didn't play that much attention to the original liberty city anyway - but for San Andreas I want them to keep some elements the same.

 

I want to see Grove Street just located somewhere in Los Santos - so we can go to it and just take it all in, it'll be brilliant to see a revived version of Grove. If I can have anything in GTA 5 that's what I want - to see Grove Street, just for the memories and stuff.

 

And if Rockstar are still sticking to this 'It's a different universe' bollocks - then even if they simply have a few 'GROVE STREET FAMILIES 4 LYFE' or 'ROLLIN' HEIGHTS BALLAS!' tags still plastered on the walls from 20 Years ago, that would be a great little reference.

Jefferson, Ganton, Idlewood etc.. will all make a return for sure. It's common sense. However, they won't look the same. I will aswell like to see Grove street but i doubt it. Grove was specific to San Andreas IMO.

[Gtaghost22]

I know about the whole different universe thing, but i don't see why small references to the old San Andreas would hurt. Nobody is advocating that these things play a central part in the game, but simply pop up throughout the game, or while roaming around. If Rockstar is so adamant in keeping the past in the past, then why bother going back to Los Santos? They could easily have gone anywhere else to create GTAV's environment.

I was talking about him not returing PHYSICALLY.. but small references and easter eggs wont hurt i know, i actually hope they have plenty of "easter eggs" and references to old characters in GTA V

[L1337]

 

It's takes place only 20 years later... carl is only 40-44 years old.. it's not that old

That makes him like the same age as the balcony guy people think is the protagonist so....

[bluesboyjr]

I don't see why we shouldn't get a few little callbacks. GTA is just a video game after all, so the whole "universe" thing is only to establish that what happens storywise in the GTA III Era games is unrelated to whatever happens in the HD games. Rockstar is free to bend that as much or as little as they want. I'd be surprised NOT to see several little references that serve as easter eggs. Pedestrians vaguely referring to the events of GTA SA, some really old GSF graffiti hidden away somewhere, maybe even a long-abandoned house that looks strikingly reminiscent of the Johnson place (maybe even the whole cul-de-sac)? Things like that shouldn't change how the "universes" lie - not everything's canonicity has to be in black and white. As long as there's nothing too explicit, like actually meeting CJ or the other characters, it'd be fine as long as some people don't take it too seriously and start dissecting the games like it was The Catcher In The Rye.

 

What if, on the in-game television, they advertise some sort of 'Boys N Da Hood'-style film that's made up of cutscenes from GTA SA? That'd really f*ck with people's minds...

 

 

I mean Jefferson, Idle Wood, Glenn Park, Ganton - I couldn't give a flying f*ck if Rockstar make the map bigger and add new locations and stuff in, but It will annoy me to see Ganton renamed and Los Santos bearing no resemblance to it's 2004 counterpart at all.

The two Los Santoses will both share plenty of similar-looking areas, seeing as unlike III's Liberty City they're both satirising one real-world place. However, I wouldn't hold your hopes up for them having the same names - we've already seen that Verona Beach (Venice in real life LA) is now Vespucci Beach.

Edited March 13, 2012 by bluesboyjr

[RED_]

I'm sure they'll be references in conversation and that's all that the ties that this game needs.

[Gtaghost22]

 

I'm sure they'll be references in conversation and that's all that the ties that this game needs.

What about some 'easter eggs' like grafitti mentioning Grove street, old characters...etc

[RED_]

I'm sure they'll be references in conversation and that's all that the ties that this game needs.

What about some 'easter eggs' like grafitti mentioning Grove street, old characters...etc

Good point, but yeah things like that, small things here and there.

[GTAboyWonder]

I'm guessing half of the people on this thread are 13 year old boys who don't understand the WHOLE concept of DIFFERENT universes.

[73duster]

I'm guessing half of the people on this thread are 13 year old boys who don't understand the WHOLE concept of DIFFERENT universes.

This reply does'nt exactly scream maturity, and adds ZERO to the discussion.

[Death2Drugs]

Compared to most threads, this isn't junk.

 

I'm sure we'll likely see some references to GTA: San Andreas. We've seen a lot of III era references in IV. So why not? Also, I'd like to see some references to other games from R*. For example, in a graveyard (perhaps modeled after the Inglewood Park Cemetery) we see a grave dedicated to "Officer C. Phillips", a reference to L.A. Noire.

[I Am Jeff Terry]

Different universes my arse, did anyone notcie that CJ was skydving over Los Santos on TV (lifestyles of the rich and famous parody) in GTA4.

CJ is also on one of the posters for "Fruntalot" it also says something about the CONCRETE JUNGLE (concrete jungle = CJ)

From what I've SEEN in my copy of GTA4, CJ exists and he is a rich, influential and successful business owner/former gangster in San Andreas...

 

 

[oblivionskate]

I don't want to see any characters returning (It will never happen I know) but what I do want to see are references. Like in a few missions you will hear your boss saying something like " I remember twenty years ago, this place was a hell hole. Riots, drugs, corrupt police officers. Today things are settling down but I see how the streets are slowly going back to its roots".

 

You know what I mean right? Simple and small references like that really puts a smile to my face. Remember the mission in Las Venturas where CJ and Rosenberg are at some meat factory I think and Rosenberg mentions something about Tommy Vercetti and "good ol' times" and CJ replies "Who the f*** is Tommy?". Aaaah man, I laughed so hard.

And even though I don't want any old characters making a return it would be nice to have some characters RELATED to some of the old characters which we haven't seen or heard about in previous games. Like the brother of Big Smoke or something. You would do missions for him and he would often speak about Big Smoke and how greed got him killed and how some old friend killed him.

for some reason your first quote put a smile on my face. im picturing that right now. That's all we need. i just want references. I think its good to leave us with the memories we have of the old characters IMO.

[rokuchan]

*sigh* if the wall in gta iv that said that all the iii era people were dead, i would shoot myself.

[Hazelnot]

Different universes my arse, did anyone notcie that CJ was skydving over Los Santos on TV (lifestyles of the rich and famous parody) in GTA4.

CJ is also on one of the posters for "Fruntalot" it also says something about the CONCRETE JUNGLE (concrete jungle = CJ)

From what I've SEEN in my copy of GTA4, CJ exists and he is a rich, influential and successful business owner/former gangster in San Andreas...

Those are simply made out of laziness. It's funny how people see stuff like that as an 100% certain explanation of ONLI 1 UNVIRESS! Rockstar made it clear there are 3 different universes. Now piss off.

[DatassGTA]

Cj maybe, I wouldn't mind not seeing him, but groove street has GOT to be there.

[GANGSTA26-VERCETTI]

Dude no. I want a new f*cking game aight there mate. I wann get punched right in the face with a whole new game, with brand new people to put me cock in.