jnzooger Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 jnzooger I really don't think join date has anything to do with anything.. Key word there is typically. And I'm mainly talking about the difference between 1-3 and 4. Most 4s are joined in late 2011 or early 2012. Again, key word, typically. Not all 2012ers are 4s, but as popular as these forums are, most 1-3s have been here a while. @hidaweey: My sexual orientation has nothing to do with anything. You, clearly, are one of the ones I was talking about though. (Just from that post alone.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_L1pE_ Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Lol, After the launch of GTA SA, now every time there is a black guy in GTA everyone thinks its CJ before the release.EX: -Vic Vance in VCS Playboy X in IV. CJ will not be in GTA V. There are 4 types of GTA Gamer: (You can typically tell by their joined date) Those that started with GTA1 or 2: Know full well that each numbered game is a new canon and all games following til the next numbered game are in the same universe, even if they are on the same era of consoles. Know for a fact that V's SA will be just LS and the surrounding area because that is what R* said. OK with this because their SA was just SF. Those that started with GTA3 or VC: Know full well that 3-universe and 4-universe can not be the same just because the different LCs. Still think that V and IV can be the same universe just because they are on the same era of consoles. Don't know if cities other than LS will be in V, but still hold out hope. Those that started with GTA SA: Think that every GTA must be exactly like SA or else it will suck. Don't understand eras or universes that well and think that SA characters will be back in V because they are both in SA, and think that SA's version is the only SA that can exist, thus LS, LV, and SF will all be in V. Those that started with GTA4 or none: Don't understand the concept of eras or universes in GTA and think that everyone from IV will be back in V because they are the same game. Don't know what cities will be in V because they haven't seen anything about SA yet. R* stated themselves that there are at the moment 3 universes, 2D (starting with GTA1), 3D (starting with GTA III) and HD (starting with GTA IV), and I really doubt R* would start a "Super HD" universe or something with V. All that numbered game era stuff is bullsh*t. Also, those generalizations are pretty stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FelipeVinhao Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Funny that people has short memory. Now that Rockstar themselves told this last time about "universe" crap, it's took as the absolute truth, almost literal meaning. The fact that all previous characters have a high chance of being dead 10 to 30 years after their respective stories (they were criminals with many enemies after all) doesn't count anymore, although it was ALSO told by Rockstar themselves before GTA4 release. Why not accepting a single thuth, that no matter if you believe in "continuous story" or "different universes", you WON'T SEE any previous character? This is GTA, not Sonic or Star Trek to have (or to even think about) "multiverse". Believe in what makes you sleep at night, but put some logic in those brains: Rockstar will give any excuse to bring fresh characters and not making any older return. If Rockstar brough this "universe" thing to last Q&A is because they weren't standing anymore receiving 1 million n00b emails each day asking about returning characters, and they needed to find a way to cut this crap now for once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnzooger Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 (edited) R* stated themselves that there are at the moment 3 universes, 2D (starting with GTA1), 3D (starting with GTA III) and HD (starting with GTA IV), and I really doubt R* would start a "Super HD" universe or something with V. All that numbered game era stuff is bullsh*t. Also, those generalizations are pretty stupid. They also didn't say anything about Claude being in 2 of those "eras". What they were talking about was GTA1, GTA3, and GTA4. Nothing more, nothing less. Clearly I am in group 1, but I digress, my view on it is that there are 3 eras right now, but 5 canons. How many universes is still up in the air, as multiple canons can share a universe without an issue. (III's San Andreas could be included in IV's universe without modification for example, especially when looking at the TV shows in IV.) @FelipeVinhao: Exactly, they break the previous story at every numbered game, thus creating a new canon within that group of games. A new story meaning all new characters and new versions of cities and states and stuff. Same thing happens with Power Rangers every season. Edited March 15, 2012 by jnzooger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_L1pE_ Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 R* stated themselves that there are at the moment 3 universes, 2D (starting with GTA1), 3D (starting with GTA III) and HD (starting with GTA IV), and I really doubt R* would start a "Super HD" universe or something with V. All that numbered game era stuff is bullsh*t. Also, those generalizations are pretty stupid. They also didn't say anything about Claude being in 2 of those "eras". What they were talking about was GTA1, GTA3, and GTA4. Nothing more, nothing less. Clearly I am in group 1, but I digress, my view on it is that there are 3 eras right now, but 5 canons. How many universes is still up in the air, as multiple canons can share a universe without an issue. (III's San Andreas could be included in IV's universe without modification for example, especially when looking at the TV shows in IV.) Now you're just overanalysing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negrodamus Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Every black man is not CJ. This. People who think the guy in the trailer is CJ are stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnzooger Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 R* stated themselves that there are at the moment 3 universes, 2D (starting with GTA1), 3D (starting with GTA III) and HD (starting with GTA IV), and I really doubt R* would start a "Super HD" universe or something with V. All that numbered game era stuff is bullsh*t. Also, those generalizations are pretty stupid. They also didn't say anything about Claude being in 2 of those "eras". What they were talking about was GTA1, GTA3, and GTA4. Nothing more, nothing less. Clearly I am in group 1, but I digress, my view on it is that there are 3 eras right now, but 5 canons. How many universes is still up in the air, as multiple canons can share a universe without an issue. (III's San Andreas could be included in IV's universe without modification for example, especially when looking at the TV shows in IV.) Now you're just overanalysing it. So is anyone that even brings up the universe/era/canon subject. What FelipeVinhao said is the absolute bottom of it, they just need an excuse to change it up every now and then, so everything previous goes out the window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negrodamus Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 It's gonna be pretty sweet when all the semi-retarded youngsters who really think it's CJ finds out it's not when the game comes out. And then I'll be there... Rubbing it in YOUR FACE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesboyjr Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 This is GTA, not Sonic or Star Trek to have (or to even think about) "multiverse". Believe in what makes you sleep at night, but put some logic in those brains: Rockstar will give any excuse to bring fresh characters and not making any older return. If Rockstar brough this "universe" thing to last Q&A is because they weren't standing anymore receiving 1 million n00b emails each day asking about returning characters, and they needed to find a way to cut this crap now for once. This, I guess. Grand Theft Auto has always been about the experience and the culture, not the characters. Just look at Vice City and III - they only shared two visible characters, Donald Love and Phil Cassidy, and when you consider that Donald barely got a speaking line in VC and Phil was only in one mission in III, that puts them almost in the same category as easter eggs. I'm expecting the same relationship between IV and V - we'll get a whole new cast of characters, with perhaps the odd mission-long cameo of a characters from IV/EfLC. Of course, the whole 2D/3D/HD "explanation" works fine, too. We won't be physically seeing any characters from before GTA IV again simply because they just wouldn't look or feel right rendered in high definition, the same way that Liberty City and Los Santos have been completely rebuilt from the ground up, with completely new neighbourhoods and everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ll rdny ll Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 (edited) R* stated themselves that there are at the moment 3 universes, 2D (starting with GTA1), 3D (starting with GTA III) and HD (starting with GTA IV), and I really doubt R* would start a "Super HD" universe or something with V. All that numbered game era stuff is bullsh*t. Also, those generalizations are pretty stupid. They also didn't say anything about Claude being in 2 of those "eras". What they were talking about was GTA1, GTA3, and GTA4. Nothing more, nothing less. Clearly I am in group 1, but I digress, my view on it is that there are 3 eras right now, but 5 canons. How many universes is still up in the air, as multiple canons can share a universe without an issue. (III's San Andreas could be included in IV's universe without modification for example, especially when looking at the TV shows in IV.) @FelipeVinhao: Exactly, they break the previous story at every numbered game, thus creating a new canon within that group of games. A new story meaning all new characters and new versions of cities and states and stuff. Same thing happens with Power Rangers every season. As far as I can tell, Claude from III and Claude from II(? never played I or II) Aren't the same character. Rockstar didn't even give the guy from III a name until he turned up in SA. II Claude- Claude Speed III Claude- Claude "Fido" - Rockstar said "He's only referred to as Claude" You're no better than the people who think the African-american in V's Trailer is CJ EDIT: I did a little digging on Claude Speed from II, and it turns out: He was 19 in II (set in 2013), that would make him 7-8 years old in III. It seems to me, that Claude was just a default name. (like Cid in the Final Fantasy series.) Just because people share the same name, doesn't mean their the same person. Edited March 15, 2012 by rodneythesavior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTASkunk Posted March 15, 2012 Author Share Posted March 15, 2012 Thanks for the replies, I wish it was the same universe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irrational Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 R* stated themselves that there are at the moment 3 universes, 2D (starting with GTA1), 3D (starting with GTA III) and HD (starting with GTA IV), and I really doubt R* would start a "Super HD" universe or something with V. All that numbered game era stuff is bullsh*t. Also, those generalizations are pretty stupid. They also didn't say anything about Claude being in 2 of those "eras". What they were talking about was GTA1, GTA3, and GTA4. Nothing more, nothing less. Clearly I am in group 1, but I digress, my view on it is that there are 3 eras right now, but 5 canons. How many universes is still up in the air, as multiple canons can share a universe without an issue. (III's San Andreas could be included in IV's universe without modification for example, especially when looking at the TV shows in IV.) @FelipeVinhao: Exactly, they break the previous story at every numbered game, thus creating a new canon within that group of games. A new story meaning all new characters and new versions of cities and states and stuff. Same thing happens with Power Rangers every season. As far as I can tell, Claude from III and Claude from II(? never played I or II) Aren't the same character. Rockstar didn't even give the guy from III a name until he turned up in SA. II Claude- Claude Speed III Claude- Claude "Fido" - Rockstar said "He's only referred to as Claude" You're no better than the people who think the African-american in V's Trailer is CJ EDIT: I did a little digging on Claude Speed from II, and it turns out: He was 19 in II (set in 2013), that would make him 7-8 years old in III. It seems to me, that Claude was just a default name. (like Cid in the Final Fantasy series.) Just because people share the same name, doesn't mean their the same person. What the hell? There's actually an artwork in GTA III that names him "Claude Speed", and in Rockstar's A&A, the noob-ass spokesman said "his surname may or may not be Speed". I think Rockstar didn't answered that properly, to make mistery, so the fans can think whatever they want. But, WHAT THE HELL? Claude Speed in GTA 2 was 19? Actually, he was 39, look at his artwork: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vercetti27 Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 No, III Era doesn't share the same canonity. this. /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnzooger Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 R* stated themselves that there are at the moment 3 universes, 2D (starting with GTA1), 3D (starting with GTA III) and HD (starting with GTA IV), and I really doubt R* would start a "Super HD" universe or something with V. All that numbered game era stuff is bullsh*t. Also, those generalizations are pretty stupid. They also didn't say anything about Claude being in 2 of those "eras". What they were talking about was GTA1, GTA3, and GTA4. Nothing more, nothing less. Clearly I am in group 1, but I digress, my view on it is that there are 3 eras right now, but 5 canons. How many universes is still up in the air, as multiple canons can share a universe without an issue. (III's San Andreas could be included in IV's universe without modification for example, especially when looking at the TV shows in IV.) @FelipeVinhao: Exactly, they break the previous story at every numbered game, thus creating a new canon within that group of games. A new story meaning all new characters and new versions of cities and states and stuff. Same thing happens with Power Rangers every season. As far as I can tell, Claude from III and Claude from II(? never played I or II) Aren't the same character. Rockstar didn't even give the guy from III a name until he turned up in SA. II Claude- Claude Speed III Claude- Claude "Fido" - Rockstar said "He's only referred to as Claude" You're no better than the people who think the African-american in V's Trailer is CJ EDIT: I did a little digging on Claude Speed from II, and it turns out: He was 19 in II (set in 2013), that would make him 7-8 years old in III. It seems to me, that Claude was just a default name. (like Cid in the Final Fantasy series.) Just because people share the same name, doesn't mean their the same person. What the hell? There's actually an artwork in GTA III that names him "Claude Speed", and in Rockstar's A&A, the noob-ass spokesman said "his surname may or may not be Speed". I think Rockstar didn't answered that properly, to make mistery, so the fans can think whatever they want. But, WHAT THE HELL? Claude Speed in GTA 2 was 19? Actually, he was 39, look at his artwork: http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2011...TA2-Artwork.png Actually no. He was 27 in the opening video of GTA2. (GTA2 was not set in 2013, it was set in XX99, which is still debated.) In SA he was either 18 or 19. He was put in some kind of stasis after the events of the opening video and released into Anywhere City in XX99. Look back in my posts, this is one topic that I have researched and explained quite well before. Frankly rodneythesavior, you don't have a clue what you are talking about with GTA2 at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kjwarrior Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Hmmmm Bumpity Do I bumped You... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ killed Ryder Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Wow, did any of you actually watch the trailer? CJ is at 1:06 and yes, CJ probably owns half of Los Santos - he's the protagonist after all. So.... You see a black guy so you assume it's CJ? Do you know there are millions of black guys in this earth? yes but he has cj's shirt and belt in case you didn't notice. That was CJ's standard outfit. I made him get muscles and wear different clothes, so my CJ looked different. And by the way: Young Maylay: "No, I'm not on GTA 5". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killerbee25 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Come on f*ckstar we need info now !!!! Wow Zee, new account and new insult... you are evolving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecommander Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Wow, did any of you actually watch the trailer? CJ is at 1:06 and yes, CJ probably owns half of Los Santos - he's the protagonist after all. So.... You see a black guy so you assume it's CJ? Do you know there are millions of black guys in this earth? yes but he has cj's shirt and belt in case you didn't notice. That was CJ's standard outfit. I made him get muscles and wear different clothes, so my CJ looked different. And by the way: Young Maylay: "No, I'm not on GTA 5". Can a black person not wear jeans, a belt, and a wife beater? Yes and it doesn't mean he's CJ. Just out of curiosity, how old are the people who think the guy in the trailer is CJ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ killed Ryder Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Wow, did any of you actually watch the trailer? CJ is at 1:06 and yes, CJ probably owns half of Los Santos - he's the protagonist after all. So.... You see a black guy so you assume it's CJ? Do you know there are millions of black guys in this earth? yes but he has cj's shirt and belt in case you didn't notice. That was CJ's standard outfit. I made him get muscles and wear different clothes, so my CJ looked different. And by the way: Young Maylay: "No, I'm not on GTA 5". Can a black person not wear jeans, a belt, and a wife beater? Yes and it doesn't mean he's CJ. Just out of curiosity, how old are the people who think the guy in the trailer is CJ? It's obvious he's not CJ. Young Maylay says on twitter he is not in GTA V. Too bad, Los Santos would not be complete without CJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefantome Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 No CJ invested on sub primes and he lost everything. I think we will see him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killerbee25 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Interesting: Could the black guy running from the cops by the protagonist? And only this time, we can unlock CJ's clothing instead of Claude's? Hmm... Interesting indeed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ killed Ryder Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Interesting: Could the black guy running from the cops by the protagonist? And only this time, we can unlock CJ's clothing instead of Claude's? Hmm... Interesting indeed... I don't think so. Claude always wore the same clothing, unlike CJ and Niko whose clothes can be changed by the player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travvv33 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Wow, did any of you actually watch the trailer? CJ is at 1:06 and yes, CJ probably owns half of Los Santos - he's the protagonist after all. Obviously, Rockstar trolled the sh*t out of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Dre Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Guys, your little "GTA eras" don't mean sh*t. It's R*'s game, they can do as they please. So maybe, depends on if R* wants him to..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GR7 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Even if it was the same era I have a feeling CJ would be long dead or in hiding, the life expectancy of a GTA protagonist must be extremely short. Sure there would probably be a few exceptions but after witnessing a previous protagonist die so fast in that drug deal that went bad it kind of shows how vunerable they become when their storylines are over and they've lost their edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp1dell Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 I swear the reason Rockstar has been killing the protagonist at the end of their recent games is because everyone insists that GTA III and IV are connected. GTA V is likely to follow so the protagonist in it can in no way return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theomega200 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 IN B4 THE LOCK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAfro77 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 If characters cant co exist in the same universe, how do you guys explain claude making a cameo in GTA SA catalina ended up going to liberty city with claude after CJ wins that race Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theomega200 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Guys, your little "GTA eras" don't mean sh*t. It's R*'s game, they can do as they please. So maybe, depends on if R* wants him to..... Yeah its all the GTA games in one series there is no eras just all games in the GTA Series so there is a possibly that CJ will return or maybe Packie or Tommy Vercetti or even Roman and Niko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeafMetal Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Guys, your little "GTA eras" don't mean sh*t. It's R*'s game, they can do as they please. So maybe, depends on if R* wants him to..... +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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