thatstupidbug Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 1) i don't belive in what R* said about "eras" and "universes" in the Q&A. yes, they are the creators and they have the power to choise what's "canon" and what's not, but if you pay attention to the answers, they wrote some bulls*it just to answer our questions. For example they don't know if claude "speed" in GTA2 is the same Claude "speed" in GTA III ("may or may not be" isn't an answer!!!), they and they mixed in-game with real life ("claude shoot maria? someone in the Audio department put a gun sound to shut her mouth"), and some answers were just ignored (about the changes after 9/11, they talked about "one mission and some lines removed"... but why don't say us WHAT mission was removed?). about claude, i remember an official picture that called Claude (GTA III) "claude speed" if it isn't a fake, this means that even R* doesn't have a clue about their games 2) what i want to say is that this whole things about canon and eras is just plain stupid. R* answered that way, but nothing is clear. My view is that GTA IV (and GTA V) is a reboot, like the batman movies in the 90's and "the dark knight" saga... there are similar things and similar names, but everything is different, and the director can do wathever he wants without being tied to the past movies (and they have not no explain why robin isn't around, or why joker is now a psycho, because they are DIFFERENT characters). the same in GTA IV (and V). 3) so, it's CJ that guy? who cares, the only things is that he will NOT be "our" CJ, but a different person in a different timeline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebby Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 3) so, it's CJ that guy? who cares, the only things is that he will NOT be "our" CJ, but a different person in a different timeline This. CJ can in fact exist - but it just will not be the CJ we know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versous Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 3) so, it's CJ that guy? who cares, the only things is that he will NOT be "our" CJ, but a different person in a different timeline This. CJ can in fact exist - but it just will not be the CJ we know. lol, it would kinda piss off people who liked him as char tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumbassbuffet Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Of course he does, just not the half that gets put into GTA v Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Malo94 Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 3) so, it's CJ that guy? who cares, the only things is that he will NOT be "our" CJ, but a different person in a different timeline This. CJ can in fact exist - but it just will not be the CJ we know. So in that case. it would just be some random black guy named CJ who happens to live in Los Santos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebby Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 3) so, it's CJ that guy? who cares, the only things is that he will NOT be "our" CJ, but a different person in a different timeline This. CJ can in fact exist - but it just will not be the CJ we know. So in that case. it would just be some random black guy named CJ who happens to live in Los Santos. Yeah. With maybe some similar motive's/appearance. Think of it as altering to fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKON8ERISBACK Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Again, the most we can expect is acknowledgment that CJ and the GSF exist or existed at some point. Some fan fiction writers have purposed that the GSF was eliminated in the late 1990s and that CJ is dead at this point. Don't count on any real 3D character appearance of any GTA III era characters in the game. The most we can expect is in game radio dialogue and maybe a 2D advertisement as seen in GTA IV: http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2011...talot-GTAIV.png Although it seems unlikely that R* would ignore the GTA III era characters altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iroquois Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 In my opinion, the black guy in the photo isnt CJ . We simply do not know. It could be anyone(new or old). But back to the main topic, if you look at all GTA games individually and as a bunch, you'll see the games(and some parts of their storylines) are intertwined with each other....its not just the easter eggs. You could basically make a timeline of gta events and eveything would come together perfectly. Now some say, this is a new "era" but if you look at this way; {franchises, brands and other features/details(in-game)} carry on from 1 gta to the next, so why wouldnt characters(<--this is to those who dont support the aforementioned time line theory). Now, I have never seen anything proving the new era possibility, but if there is, can you please post it? For the time being, yes, CJ would be rich, but anything could of happened to him over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Hellraiser Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 (edited) Wow, did any of you actually watch the trailer? CJ is at 1:06 bawls http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t231/Kptk92/cj.png img of black guy and yes, CJ probably owns half of Los Santos - he's the protagonist after all. lawl at ur fail CJ is dead, cuz Dan Houser said so. CJ also didn't wear boots... CJ would've been shooting, not running... You are this guy Edited March 15, 2012 by fatal1ty619 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian. Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Watch CJ have a cameo where they use clever writing to talk about how much "simpler" things were back then, in a way that illustrates how basic those games looked compared to their new iterations of LC and LS. Maylay voicing with an old-guy twist and complaining about stuff. I can see Rockstar doing that, poking fun at CJ, by showing he grew into a grumpy old man who can't get with the times or something "Feels like it's a whole different world now, dog!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da_Lurker Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Wow, did any of you actually watch the trailer? CJ is at 1:06 and yes, CJ probably owns half of Los Santos - he's the protagonist after all. ^ If that's CJ, I'm a Rockstar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FelipeVinhao Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Watch CJ have a cameo where they use clever writing to talk about how much "simpler" things were back then, in a way that illustrates how basic those games looked compared to their new iterations of LC and LS. Maylay voicing with an old-guy twist and complaining about stuff. I can see Rockstar doing that, poking fun at CJ, by showing he grew into a grumpy old man who can't get with the times or something "Feels like it's a whole different world now, dog!" THIS would be funny. Not CJ returning, but a ranting guy similar to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azali10 Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Wow, did any of you actually watch the trailer? CJ is at 1:06 and yes, CJ probably owns half of Los Santos - he's the protagonist after all. ^ If that's CJ, I'm a Rockstar. Don't you just love how every black guy in a tanktop is CJ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceRay Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 This topic gives me a headache. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FelipeVinhao Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Wow, did any of you actually watch the trailer? CJ is at 1:06 http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t231/Kptk92/cj.png and yes, CJ probably owns half of Los Santos - he's the protagonist after all. ^ If that's CJ, I'm a Rockstar. Don't you just love how every black guy in a tanktop is CJ? I'm pretty sure people who say this just look below the neck and above the belt. The face doesn't have even a simple similarity to CJ, even considering he must be aged now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notorious One Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Doubt that's CJ. That's typical west coast attire so it could be some random ped running from five-oh. What I can say is that the new detailed environment looks real nice. The shoes hanging from the powerlines, the rusted gates, and rubbish really brings out the ghetto. I always thought the alleyways/driveways in San Andreas lacked details. Looks like Rockstar caught up. Can't wait to see how the other different neighborhoods look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puttbutt Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 3) so, it's CJ that guy? who cares, the only things is that he will NOT be "our" CJ, but a different person in a different timeline This. CJ can in fact exist - but it just will not be the CJ we know. Why? Could you not think up a name other than CJ? Why confuse everyone by having a character who is named the same and who looks the same but isn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celticfang Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 canon Here's the thing. WE, i.e. the players, don't know what is/isn't canon. Only R* do. They likely have a firm grasp of what is/isn't canon in their games. Examples: One ending is canon in IV, one isn't, some events in VC/SA/III are or aren't canon, Claude in GTA2 isn't canon while III Claude is. Fan fiction writers....for the most part are not canon, in some cases they may be fanon (see Anita Blake), where fan works become canon, if R* acknowledge that the GSF were killed off in 1995 and a fan wrote that in a fan fic, it'd be canon devised by a fan. AKA Fanon. Now, I've been thinking about canon as far as the GTA IV goes. What is the actual R* accepted canon as far as the choices go, as in who to spare/kill, what mission strand to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FelipeVinhao Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Wait wait wait! What are you talking about? It's still the same guy from the trailer? Same name? Who knows... Same look? Hmm... But isn't CJ? WTF?! Could you please tell me what meds you're using? I want some too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarface910 Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Wow, did any of you actually watch the trailer? CJ is at 1:06 and yes, CJ probably owns half of Los Santos - he's the protagonist after all. Cant be him, if its the CJ we know he'd be in a high speed chase with the cops or going into a pay and spray....running? pffft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnzooger Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Clearly it's not CJ, he is wearing red boxers, not green. It has to be Vic Vance. In all seriousness, WE DON'T HAVE A CLUE WHO THAT IS! (Yes I needed to yell that.) To the people arguing about the OG Loc CDs, maybe GTA III takes place as a videogame in the IV-canon just as it does in real life. We know from an easteregg in III that GTA1 and 2 take place as videogames in III-canon, so why not? I have soundtracks from Vice City, hosted by DJs that don't really exist, yet they have their pictures on the covers. Does Toni exist in real life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Assassin Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 I always laugh when people say that guy is CJ. He looks NOTHING like him. White tank top? So if I take a photo of myself wearing a white tank top I'm CJ as well? Imbeciles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PreciousWall Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 III & IV Are in different "World" R Already stated that El Burro is referenced as he was also referenced in GTA 1, so it felt appropriate that he should cross “universes” – the “universes” are the worlds interpreted at different definitions, 2d, 3d and high definition, so we felt brands and radio / back ground characters would exist in both, but 3 dimensional characters would not. This is the logic (as far as it could be considered logical) behind it – so no, we don’t believe any GTA3 characters could exist in the GTA4 universe. Oh shiitee... here is GTA V CJ! he wear tank top right? he is obviously CJ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rauland Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 I always laugh when people say that guy is CJ. He looks NOTHING like him. White tank top? So if I take a photo of myself wearing a white tank top I'm CJ as well? Imbeciles. Funny people who want him the most (saying it's him) know him the least (he looks nothing like him). Also imo, CJ is dead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesusismyairbag Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 I always laugh when people say that guy is CJ. He looks NOTHING like him. White tank top? So if I take a photo of myself wearing a white tank top I'm CJ as well? Imbeciles. overreaction. it could be CJ though, you dont know do you, hahaha. so dont call random people imbeciles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Assassin Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 (edited) I always laugh when people say that guy is CJ. He looks NOTHING like him. White tank top? So if I take a photo of myself wearing a white tank top I'm CJ as well? Imbeciles. overreaction. it could be CJ though, you dont know do you, hahaha. so dont call random people imbeciles. I don't need to know key details of the game to know it's not him. He's some guy running from the cops, but put a white tank top on him and he's CJ. Edited March 15, 2012 by Miamivicecity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkjellman Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Lol, After the launch of GTA SA, now every time there is a black guy in GTA everyone thinks its CJ before the release. EX: -Vic Vance in VCS Playboy X in IV. CJ will not be in GTA V. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnzooger Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Lol, After the launch of GTA SA, now every time there is a black guy in GTA everyone thinks its CJ before the release.EX: -Vic Vance in VCS Playboy X in IV. CJ will not be in GTA V. There are 4 types of GTA Gamer: (You can typically tell by their joined date) Those that started with GTA1 or 2: Know full well that each numbered game is a new canon and all games following til the next numbered game are in the same universe, even if they are on the same era of consoles. Know for a fact that V's SA will be just LS and the surrounding area because that is what R* said. OK with this because their SA was just SF. Those that started with GTA3 or VC: Know full well that 3-universe and 4-universe can not be the same just because the different LCs. Still think that V and IV can be the same universe just because they are on the same era of consoles. Don't know if cities other than LS will be in V, but still hold out hope. Those that started with GTA SA: Think that every GTA must be exactly like SA or else it will suck. Don't understand eras or universes that well and think that SA characters will be back in V because they are both in SA, and think that SA's version is the only SA that can exist, thus LS, LV, and SF will all be in V. Those that started with GTA4 or none: Don't understand the concept of eras or universes in GTA and think that everyone from IV will be back in V because they are the same game. Don't know what cities will be in V because they haven't seen anything about SA yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeycan8 Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 jnzooger I really don't think join date has anything to do with anything.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hidaweey Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Lol, After the launch of GTA SA, now every time there is a black guy in GTA everyone thinks its CJ before the release.EX: -Vic Vance in VCS Playboy X in IV. CJ will not be in GTA V. There are 4 types of GTA Gamer: (You can typically tell by their joined date) Those that started with GTA1 or 2: Know full well that each numbered game is a new canon and all games following til the next numbered game are in the same universe, even if they are on the same era of consoles. Know for a fact that V's SA will be just LS and the surrounding area because that is what R* said. OK with this because their SA was just SF. Those that started with GTA3 or VC: Know full well that 3-universe and 4-universe can not be the same just because the different LCs. Still think that V and IV can be the same universe just because they are on the same era of consoles. Don't know if cities other than LS will be in V, but still hold out hope. Those that started with GTA SA: Think that every GTA must be exactly like SA or else it will suck. Don't understand eras or universes that well and think that SA characters will be back in V because they are both in SA, and think that SA's version is the only SA that can exist, thus LS, LV, and SF will all be in V. Those that started with GTA4 or none: Don't understand the concept of eras or universes in GTA and think that everyone from IV will be back in V because they are the same game. Don't know what cities will be in V because they haven't seen anything about SA yet. What a stupid gay thinking join date LOL ... WTF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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