ll rdny ll Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Should have posted it in this topic.It was started specifically for discussion of ideas about the protagonist, there's no reason not to use it. Please use the search function next time. Dude, your topic's dead, get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Notorious MOB Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 RCGuys are gonna cry when real info comes out Nobody seems to understand what an Undercover FBI Agent is/does. Let me break it down for you. If an agent is undercover, they participate in actions that they normally wouldn't. That would involve; torture, kidnapping, selling drugs, using drugs, stealing cars, robbing banks, you get the point. So merely saying "Teh cantz be FBEYE cuz he got chussed buh cawps!" Doesn't prove anything. Are you suggesting the protagonist is involved with police activity? No, I'm just saying that just because a character is FBI doesn't mean he can't do the things we'll do in the game. For all we know, The Main Character is Ned Luke, the Hispanic RCguy is undercover FBI. While we're playing the game, we grow to trust RCguy, and eventually he betrays Ned Luke, (because he's FBI) That's not true.. UC FBI agents can't actively participate in crimes.. except as a buyer. They can buy drugs and stolen goods etc. but they couldn't by any stretch rob a bank as part of their operation. The guy in the driver's seat could be an agent but this would likely mean that everybody would be arrested during or straight after the robbery as part of a sting which would be terrible from a gameplay point of view.. especially if he were the protagonist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeNDo6750 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 If it is a UC, then i will be fine if it was an ex undercover cop But 100% with a criminal similar to Tommy V, Niko B, Claude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ll rdny ll Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 That's not true.. UC FBI agents can't actively participate in crimes.. except as a buyer. They can buy drugs and stolen goods etc. but they couldn't by any stretch rob a bank as part of their operation. The guy in the driver's seat could be an agent but this would likely mean that everybody would be arrested during or straight after the robbery as part of a sting which would be terrible from a gameplay point of view.. especially if he were the protagonist. Which is why I think the RCguy isn't the protagonist. The 'Team' sets up the Jewellry store heist. RC is the driver, waits in the van until the robbery is done (We don't know he's UC). RC Calls the cops. (has to be chased as well, if the Police force wants to capture the Protag for whatever it is their onto him for.) Protag gets away in Blue car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeNDo6750 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 That's not true.. UC FBI agents can't actively participate in crimes.. except as a buyer. They can buy drugs and stolen goods etc. but they couldn't by any stretch rob a bank as part of their operation. The guy in the driver's seat could be an agent but this would likely mean that everybody would be arrested during or straight after the robbery as part of a sting which would be terrible from a gameplay point of view.. especially if he were the protagonist. Which is why I think the RCguy isn't the protagonist. The 'Team' sets up the Jewellry store heist. RC is the driver, waits in the van until the robbery is done (We don't know he's UC). RC Calls the cops. (has to be chased as well, if the Police force wants to capture the Protag for whatever it is their onto him for.) Protag gets away in Blue car. for some reason an UC in GTA wouldn't fit the bill, and wouldn't fit for the idea of GTA at all, and won't succeed as much as if the protag was a criminal (like it always have been since 1997). Oh and why change the ingredients (of GTA) that has been selling like hot cakes with the protag as an criminal for 15 years Another saying "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" of GTA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT. Johnson Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 That's not true.. UC FBI agents can't actively participate in crimes.. except as a buyer. They can buy drugs and stolen goods etc. but they couldn't by any stretch rob a bank as part of their operation. The guy in the driver's seat could be an agent but this would likely mean that everybody would be arrested during or straight after the robbery as part of a sting which would be terrible from a gameplay point of view.. especially if he were the protagonist. Which is why I think the RCguy isn't the protagonist. The 'Team' sets up the Jewellry store heist. RC is the driver, waits in the van until the robbery is done (We don't know he's UC). RC Calls the cops. (has to be chased as well, if the Police force wants to capture the Protag for whatever it is their onto him for.) Protag gets away in Blue car. Everyone of those guys was driving except the Black guy being chased by cops. Using your example, this would make it much easier for the police to capture the UC. Not only that, the driver of the van is actually the black guy. Double check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Notorious MOB Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 That's not true.. UC FBI agents can't actively participate in crimes.. except as a buyer. They can buy drugs and stolen goods etc. but they couldn't by any stretch rob a bank as part of their operation. The guy in the driver's seat could be an agent but this would likely mean that everybody would be arrested during or straight after the robbery as part of a sting which would be terrible from a gameplay point of view.. especially if he were the protagonist. Which is why I think the RCguy isn't the protagonist. The 'Team' sets up the Jewellry store heist. RC is the driver, waits in the van until the robbery is done (We don't know he's UC). RC Calls the cops. (has to be chased as well, if the Police force wants to capture the Protag for whatever it is their onto him for.) Protag gets away in Blue car. My post was replying mostly to your first post. I remember putting forward a theory that the heist scene would be a homage to the movie Reservoir Dogs in which Ned Luke would assume the role of Mr. White (Harvey Keitel) and the hispanic guy would take the role of Mr. Orange (Tim Roth). So in saying that I support the possibility of your second comment being true. At the same time though I think if Rockstar were to do this then anybody who seen the film would straight away predict RC guy's betrayal and the suprise and emotional impact of the reveal would be well and truely ruined. I don't think anybody predicted Michelle's betrayal of Niko in GTA IV.. likely because there was nothing to suggest that it was coming (although in retrospect it is the classic honeytrap) however if they were to make it really obvious to the player then there would be little or no point of doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeNDo6750 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 just hope it isn't a UC as the protag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leik oh em jeez! Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Should have posted it in this topic.It was started specifically for discussion of ideas about the protagonist, there's no reason not to use it. Please use the search function next time. Dude, your topic's dead, get over it. It's not about my topic at all. It's about there being six topics just on the first page about the protagonist. It's annoying and there's no reason for it. That's the exact reason I created that topic. Generally it's better to bump an old related topic than to start a new one about the same thing. If we've got six pages about the same thing on the first page, obviously protagonist discussion is NOT dead, and there's no reason not to post it in the existing topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT. Johnson Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Should have posted it in this topic.It was started specifically for discussion of ideas about the protagonist, there's no reason not to use it. Please use the search function next time. Dude, your topic's dead, get over it. It's not about my topic at all. It's about there being six topics just on the first page about the protagonist. It's annoying and there's no reason for it. That's the exact reason I created that topic. Generally it's better to bump an old related topic than to start a new one about the same thing. If we've got six pages about the same thing on the first page, obviously protagonist discussion is NOT dead, and there's no reason not to post it in the existing topic. Yeah, but don't indirectly force people to post in your topic. If they don't want to, they won't. EDIT: THE SEARCH FUNCTION IS sh*t! It always shows the first page topics. If you honestly think people are goign to dig through pages of threads just to find ONE when it is much easier to simply "re-post" a thread, then you are quite wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leik oh em jeez! Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Yeah, but don't indirectly force people to post in your topic. If they don't want to, they won't. EDIT: THE SEARCH FUNCTION IS sh*t! It always shows the first page topics. If you honestly think people are goign to dig through pages of threads just to find ONE when it is much easier to simply "re-post" a thread, then you are quite wrong. Like I said, it's not about it being my topic, I just want a single, organized topic. For all I care a moderator can lock my topic and start a new "official" protagonist topic, so long as the rules are properly enforced and repeat topics are merged or locked. The search function is great if you know how to use it. Use >Show posts from >Any date and... >newer to search all topics. Use "search titles only" to get a more accurate search for a specific topic. There's a topic somewhere that better explains the features. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT. Johnson Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Yeah, but don't indirectly force people to post in your topic. If they don't want to, they won't. EDIT: THE SEARCH FUNCTION IS sh*t! It always shows the first page topics. If you honestly think people are goign to dig through pages of threads just to find ONE when it is much easier to simply "re-post" a thread, then you are quite wrong. Like I said, it's not about it being my topic, I just want a single, organized topic. For all I care a moderator can lock my topic and start a new "official" protagonist topic, so long as the rules are properly enforced and repeat topics are merged or locked. The search function is great if you know how to use it. Use >Show posts from >Any date and... >newer to search all topics. Use "search titles only" to get a more accurate search for a specific topic. There's a topic somewhere that better explains the features. Um, don't take offense to this, but are you a conformist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leik oh em jeez! Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Um, don't take offense to this, but are you a conformist? It would take a lot more than that to offend me. But no, I'm not. I'm simply annoyed with the general immaturity that is associated with the V forum. I'd like for people to be able to post as maturely and respectfully as most members do in the rest of the forum. It's a lot easier to discuss ideas if all ideas about the same thing are in the same topic. A user can buzz through the topic to see other's opinions, then post his/her own in the same topic to be discussed. If everyone starts their own topic, it becomes impossible to look through all of them to see if someone has already posted the same idea, so then you have multiple topics explaining why the same person is the protagonist, and it becomes even harder to search for the proper place to post your idea, so even more users start their own topic. It gets worse exponentially and the easiest place to stop it is at the beginning. I advocate solving problems before they become too much to fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT. Johnson Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Um, don't take offense to this, but are you a conformist? It would take a lot more than that to offend me. But no, I'm not. I'm simply annoyed with the general immaturity that is associated with the V forum. I'd like for people to be able to post as maturely and respectfully as most members do in the rest of the forum. It's a lot easier to discuss ideas if all ideas about the same thing are in the same topic. A user can buzz through the topic to see other's opinions, then post his/her own in the same topic to be discussed. If everyone starts their own topic, it becomes impossible to look through all of them to see if someone has already posted the same idea, so then you have multiple topics explaining why the same person is the protagonist, and it becomes even harder to search for the proper place to post your idea, so even more users start their own topic. It gets worse exponentially and the easiest place to stop it is at the beginning. I advocate solving problems before they become too much to fix. Wasn't trying to insult you. You just gave me that impression. True, however, people disobey rules even though they know it's wrong. That is why you have mods, similar to how we have cops to stop crime, which is similar to this. I'd like it if people did follow the rules, but, in reality, it will never happen. Let's make this a moot point now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no_chance Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 The voice in the trailer sounds so smooth and relaxing i'll enjoy listening to it throughout the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinky12 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I'm starting to come to the conclusion, this entire section is a waste of space and bandwidth with a bunch of dumb topics that makes no sense. Seriously, how many times and angles was that trailer analyzed?! What's next, count the number of pixels on a NPC to determine if s/he is the main character?! This topic as well as 99% of others in this section should be deleted, just to save any neurons that's still left intact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazelnot Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 I'm starting to come to the conclusion, this entire section is a waste of space and bandwidth with a bunch of dumb topicsthat makes no sense. Seriously, how many times and angles was that trailer analyzed?! What's next, count the number of pixels on a NPC to determine if s/he is the main character?! This topic as well as 99% of others in this section should be deleted, just to save any neurons that's still left intact. The high horse. Get off it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluetops Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 (edited) We only have 1 or 2 casting calls. And I believe those are "extra characters", more like the "random encounters" that we have in IV. Edited March 14, 2012 by bluetops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarFyer Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 I've never seen so many ppl get mad because the protag may be, I SAY 'MAY BE,' an older white man. Talk about racists. I have faith that whoever R* makes the lead that they will grow on me. If that dumb retread CJ can grow on me then anybody can! I guess I should say that I 'tolerated' him but anyways no one here has even played the game yet and people are mad, worried, and the game already sux---blah, blah, blah. Why not wait until you actually play it before you form an opinion about it? I don't get people anymore i don't get it either. people have way too much idle time on their hands if they're worrying and arguing over who may be or may not be the main character in a video game that's not even available yet. but i must say watching people bicker about this is quite amusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp1dell Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 What's depressing is how fake that casting call was. What is even more depressing, is that you find it hard to say that the protagonist may be the man on the balcony, simply because he is "too old." Who would have thought this entire forum would be full of biased opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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