Protagonist- Gang Member or Freelance?

[interpolfan11]

I do hope that guy on the balcony is not the protagonist though, I wont lie!

Yeah, I hope he's not the protagonist either. The logical side of my brain is pointing myself in that direction, though.

[GTA-King]

What if the balcony guy turns out to be a badass like Tommy Vercetti was? What will some of you think then?

[interpolfan11]

What if the balcony guy turns out to be a badass like Tommy Vercetti was? What will some of you think then?

I'll still be disappointed because the protagonist in a crime game located in a parody of LA should be a gang member.

[Knife]

 

What if the balcony guy turns out to be a badass like Tommy Vercetti was? What will some of you think then?

There's been way too much judgement passed on him considering we have absolutely no idea who he is, what he's like and who he's affiliated with. He's just a face and voice at the moment. People have looked at him and the other guy, created the character's backstories in their heads and then judged them for it.

[Gtaghost22]

What if the balcony guy turns out to be a badass like Tommy Vercetti was? What will some of you think then?

I'll still be disappointed because the protagonist in a crime game located in a parody of LA should be a gang member.

me too..

[Official General]

 

What if the balcony guy turns out to be a badass like Tommy Vercetti was? What will some of you think then?

I don't really care if he his badass, that is not the be all and end all for me. I don't want a Mafia-type, older guy like him, I would just much rather a younger protagonist, and one that is more in tune with the real-life Los Angeles criminal underworld, which happens to be more associated with street gangs. I'm not saying he definitely has to be a gang member himself, but I want a protagonist from that kind of street background and scene and is familiar with gang culture, it would make much more sense as far as realism in the game is concerned.

 

@ Death2Drugs

 

So its okay for Rockstar to piss people off by letting you play as an Eastern European hitman who kills people he does not know in mob hits simply for money, but not gang violence ? Come on bro, you are not making any sense here.

 

Edited March 15, 2012 by Official General

[GTA-King]

We didn't see much gang activity in the trailer. So what makes some of you think V will be another gang theme?

 

Not trying to be hostile. I do agree gangs WILL be in the game. It's a LA parody as you said. But why should they be the focus again? Why not Cartels? They're very active in present day LA. The "V" logo is from money. So that's the best lead we can go on. Cartels + Drugs = Money. Maybe local gangs peddle the drugs for them?

 

Just my thoughts.

 

 

 

 

 

Which GTA trailer puts the most focus on gangs?

Edited March 16, 2012 by GTA-King

[Official General]

 

We didn't see much gang activity in the trailer. So what makes some of you think V will be another gang theme?

 

Not trying to be hostile. I do agree gangs WILL be in the game. It's a LA parody as you said. But why should they be the focus again? Why not Cartels? They're very active  in present day LA. The "V" logo is from money. So that's the best lead we can go on. Cartels + Drugs = Money. Maybe local gangs peddle the drugs for them?

 

Just my thoughts.

 

You obviously did not read my post properly. I did say my ideal protagonist did not have to be in a street gang or be a gang member. I would just prefer if he was from the same social background as LA gangs and that he is able to connect with them and be familiar with them at least.

 

Anyway, yeah I can work with that, I'm fine with that idea. Although I will remind you that Mexican drug cartels are active in LA in a role they play that mostly involves importing and selling drugs to street gangs and other criminals. Its the street gangs that handle the distribution and retail of these drugs thereafter. So Mexican drug cartels are not necessarily causing terror on the streets of LA with their violence, that stuff happens in Mexico (and maybe a few U.S. border towns) among themselves in their drug wars. Most of the gang wars in LA are fought almost entirely between rival street gangs like the Bloods and Crips, Surenos, La Eme, Avenues etc - not cartels, mafias, mob, none of them.

 

I would like someone who can connect with both the street gangs and the Mexican drug cartels, which is why I would prefer a younger protagonist of Hispanic origin. That's the kind of stuff I want, the real serious hardcore stuff that really happens in LA. I don't want to play as some middle-aged Mafioso who is washed-up and wants to retire to a sunny city, but somehow gets back into crime, I don't care how badass he is.

 

However your idea is cool with me, I can get with that

Edited March 16, 2012 by Official General

[Phrill]

Not too many Gta Protags were gang members. I think it will be a change this year. It has to fit into real LA lifestyle

[GTA-King]

We didn't see much gang activity in the trailer. So what makes some of you think V will be another gang theme?

 

Not trying to be hostile. I do agree gangs WILL be in the game. It's a LA parody as you said. But why should they be the focus again? Why not Cartels? They're very active  in present day LA. The "V" logo is from money. So that's the best lead we can go on. Cartels + Drugs = Money. Maybe local gangs peddle the drugs for them?

 

Just my thoughts.

 

You obviously did not read my post properly. I did say my ideal protagonist did not have to be in a street gang or be a gang member. I would just prefer if he was from the same social background as LA gangs and that he is able to connect with them and be familiar with them at least.

 

Anyway, yeah I can work with that, I'm fine with that idea. Although I will remind you that Mexican drug cartels are active in LA in a role they play that mostly involves importing and selling drugs to street gangs and other criminals. Its the street gangs that handle the distribution and retail of these drugs thereafter. So Mexican drug cartels are not necessarily causing terror on the streets of LA with their violence, that stuff happens in Mexico (and maybe a few U.S. border towns) among themselves in their drug wars. Most of the gang wars in LA are almost entirely between rival street gangs - not cartels, mafias, mob, none of them.

 

I would like someone who can connect with both the street gangs and the Mexican drug cartels, which is why I would prefer a younger protagonist of Hispanic origin. That's the kind of stuff I want, the real serious hardcore stuff that really happens in LA. I don't to play as some middle-aged Mafioso who is washed-up and wants to retire to a sunny city, but somehow gets back into crime, I don't care how badass he is.

 

However your idea is cool with me, I can get with that

Cool. But I don't recall ever saying he was a middle-aged washed up mobster though?

 

Can you elaborate on how you came to that conclusion please?

[Official General]

 

We didn't see much gang activity in the trailer. So what makes some of you think V will be another gang theme?

 

Not trying to be hostile. I do agree gangs WILL be in the game. It's a LA parody as you said. But why should they be the focus again? Why not Cartels? They're very active  in present day LA. The "V" logo is from money. So that's the best lead we can go on. Cartels + Drugs = Money. Maybe local gangs peddle the drugs for them?

 

Just my thoughts.

 

You obviously did not read my post properly. I did say my ideal protagonist did not have to be in a street gang or be a gang member. I would just prefer if he was from the same social background as LA gangs and that he is able to connect with them and be familiar with them at least.

 

Anyway, yeah I can work with that, I'm fine with that idea. Although I will remind you that Mexican drug cartels are active in LA in a role they play that mostly involves importing and selling drugs to street gangs and other criminals. Its the street gangs that handle the distribution and retail of these drugs thereafter. So Mexican drug cartels are not necessarily causing terror on the streets of LA with their violence, that stuff happens in Mexico (and maybe a few U.S. border towns) among themselves in their drug wars. Most of the gang wars in LA are almost entirely between rival street gangs - not cartels, mafias, mob, none of them.

 

I would like someone who can connect with both the street gangs and the Mexican drug cartels, which is why I would prefer a younger protagonist of Hispanic origin. That's the kind of stuff I want, the real serious hardcore stuff that really happens in LA. I don't to play as some middle-aged Mafioso who is washed-up and wants to retire to a sunny city, but somehow gets back into crime, I don't care how badass he is.

 

However your idea is cool with me, I can get with that

Cool. But I don't recall ever saying he was a middle-aged washed up mobster though?

 

Can you elaborate on how you came to that conclusion please?

LOL, I did not say that you said that. That is really my own pre-judgement on what that middle-aged, alleged protagonist guy on the balcony might be. I mean, I could be wrong, but either way I don't like the look and sound of him as a protagonist for GTA V. I don't know why, I just don't think he fits the role of a protagonist for this particular GTA (V). He sounds Italian-American and Mafioso-ish, and I just think its a bit out of place to to include that as the main theme in a present-day, LA-based GTA game. Yeah I know we don't know what exactly is really going on and who is gonna be what, but that's just my views for the time being.

 

If anything else, I would prefer the multiple protagonist idea, but like GTA IV+Episodes on one disc.

[GTA-King]

 

We didn't see much gang activity in the trailer. So what makes some of you think V will be another gang theme?

 

Not trying to be hostile. I do agree gangs WILL be in the game. It's a LA parody as you said. But why should they be the focus again? Why not Cartels? They're very active  in present day LA. The "V" logo is from money. So that's the best lead we can go on. Cartels + Drugs = Money. Maybe local gangs peddle the drugs for them?

 

Just my thoughts.

 

You obviously did not read my post properly. I did say my ideal protagonist did not have to be in a street gang or be a gang member. I would just prefer if he was from the same social background as LA gangs and that he is able to connect with them and be familiar with them at least.

 

Anyway, yeah I can work with that, I'm fine with that idea. Although I will remind you that Mexican drug cartels are active in LA in a role they play that mostly involves importing and selling drugs to street gangs and other criminals. Its the street gangs that handle the distribution and retail of these drugs thereafter. So Mexican drug cartels are not necessarily causing terror on the streets of LA with their violence, that stuff happens in Mexico (and maybe a few U.S. border towns) among themselves in their drug wars. Most of the gang wars in LA are almost entirely between rival street gangs - not cartels, mafias, mob, none of them.

 

I would like someone who can connect with both the street gangs and the Mexican drug cartels, which is why I would prefer a younger protagonist of Hispanic origin. That's the kind of stuff I want, the real serious hardcore stuff that really happens in LA. I don't to play as some middle-aged Mafioso who is washed-up and wants to retire to a sunny city, but somehow gets back into crime, I don't care how badass he is.

 

However your idea is cool with me, I can get with that

Cool. But I don't recall ever saying he was a middle-aged washed up mobster though?

 

Can you elaborate on how you came to that conclusion please?

LOL, I did not say that you said that. That is really my own pre-judgement on what that middle-aged, alleged protagonist guy on the balcony might be. I mean, I could be wrong, but either way I don't like the look and sound of him as a protagonist for GTA V. I don't know why, I just don't think he fits the role of a protagonist for this particular GTA (V). He sounds Italian-American and Mafioso-ish, and I just think its a bit out of place to to include that as the main theme in a present-day, LA-based GTA game. Yeah I know we don't know what exactly is really going on and who is gonna be what, but that's just my views for the time being.

 

If anything else, I would prefer the multiple protagonist idea, but like GTA IV+Episodes on one disc.

Oh ok. We really just need to wait... lol. It's so fun to speculate though! I can't wait until we have more to go on sometime in May or June. It's going to be crazy!

 

I would like to point out though that Robert De Niro was 51 in the movie Heat, and he was a badass. Not a mobster either. Just a professional theif *cough* jewelry heist *cough

 

Edited March 16, 2012 by GTA-King

[Official General]

 

I would like to point out though that Robert De Niro was 51 in the movie Heat, and he was a badass. Not a mobster either. Just a professional theif *cough* jewely heist *cough

 

LOL again you need to look closely at what I post post. Not being disrespectful, but I really don't care if that middle-aged guy on the balcony turns out to be a badass like Robert De Niro in Heat. Being a badass is not everything about what a GTA protagonist should be. There needs to be a believable cause and effect when looking at the protag's story and character.

 

Heat was a great movie and that shoot-out scene was epic, but if the protagonist is a middle-aged, white bank robber/theif, he makes a big score and gets lots of money, then what ? He's got no real reason to traffick or sell drugs, and he sure does not need to be getting involved in gang wars. Not really much for a storyline is it ? You need to think these things through and see what would be believable and why our protagonist has to embark on a life of crime. Tommy Vercetti was slightly on the older side and yes, he was a real badass and his role was perfect for Vice City, because in real-life in the 1980s, there were Cuban and Colombian drug syndicates terrorizing Miami with violent drug wars and the Italian-American Mafia had a very strong presence in Miami at the same time, and these 3 crime groups all did business together too. It all made sense and was believable, thats why Tommy Vercetti worked so well in VC.

 

We need some kind of similar system to make GTA V work well like what we saw in VC.

Edited March 16, 2012 by Official General

[GTA-King]

So what you're saying is you don't want a badass like Tommy Vercetti again?

 

Why not a believable badass than?

 

I'll be back later for more discussion. Gonna watch the movie Rampart.

[universetwisters]

i picked 'freelance'

 

i dont want any ghetto-blasting gangbangers lol

[EscoLehGo]

Official is saying that it won't matter if the protag is a "badass" if he doesn't fit in with the LA crime scene. He's made some pretty legit points against this possible Ned Luke guy, I really hope he's not who we're controlling

[Gtaghost22]

 

He's made some pretty legit points against this possible Ned Luke guy, I really hope he's not who we're controlling

He wont be the main protagonist.. Dont worry. We still dont know who the protagonist is *cough*Hisapanic guy*cough* but its pretty obvious to me that we will have multiple protagonist IMO

[HydraulicWaRiOr]

So what you're saying is you don't want a badass like Tommy Vercetti again?

 

Why not a believable badass than?

 

I'll be back later for more discussion. Gonna watch the movie Rampart.

There have been three Tommy Vercettis, I don't want another one.

[GTA-King]

 

He's made some pretty legit points against this possible Ned Luke guy, I really hope he's not who we're controlling

He wont be the main protagonist.. Dont worry. We still dont know who the protagonist is *cough*Hisapanic guy*cough* but its pretty obvious to me that we will have multiple protagonist IMO

You're kind of a hypocrite aren't you?

 

@Hydro: I'm not sure what you mean man. 3 Tommy Vercettis? You mean characters like him? As far as I can tell, he's the only GTA protagonist with the most balls and ambition to go after what he wanted. We need another character like that. Just my opinion of course.

Edited March 16, 2012 by GTA-King

[Gtaghost22]

He's made some pretty legit points against this possible Ned Luke guy, I really hope he's not who we're controlling

He wont be the main protagonist.. Dont worry. We still dont know who the protagonist is *cough*Hisapanic guy*cough* but its pretty obvious to me that we will have multiple protagonist IMO

You're kind of a hypocrite aren't you?

LoL! its just a joke mate... dont take it that seriously

[GTA-King]

He's made some pretty legit points against this possible Ned Luke guy, I really hope he's not who we're controlling

He wont be the main protagonist.. Dont worry. We still dont know who the protagonist is *cough*Hisapanic guy*cough* but its pretty obvious to me that we will have multiple protagonist IMO

You're kind of a hypocrite aren't you?

LoL! its just a joke mate... dont take it that seriously

I'm not. lol. Don't take it that seriously!

[Gtaghost22]

 

He's made some pretty legit points against this possible Ned Luke guy, I really hope he's not who we're controlling

He wont be the main protagonist.. Dont worry. We still dont know who the protagonist is *cough*Hisapanic guy*cough* but its pretty obvious to me that we will have multiple protagonist IMO

You're kind of a hypocrite aren't you?

LoL! its just a joke mate... dont take it that seriously

I'm not. lol. Don't take it that seriously!

Ok.. I thought you were being serious, nevermind then

[HydraulicWaRiOr]

 

He's made some pretty legit points against this possible Ned Luke guy, I really hope he's not who we're controlling

He wont be the main protagonist.. Dont worry. We still dont know who the protagonist is *cough*Hisapanic guy*cough* but its pretty obvious to me that we will have multiple protagonist IMO

You're kind of a hypocrite aren't you?

 

@Hydro: I'm not sure what you mean man. 3 Tommy Vercettis? You mean characters like him? As far as I can tell, he's the only GTA protagonist with the most balls and ambition to go after what he wanted. We need another character like that. Just my opinion of course.

That happened in GTA IV. When Niko found out that Mallorie was cheating on Roman with Vlad, he went after him and killed him. Niko was vengeful. He chased down and killed anyone who betrayed him, including Playboy X, Faustin, Dimitri, Darko, Jimmy Pegorino, and others.

 

Why the hell would Rockstar copy the concept from Vice City? The very reason that they returned to Los Santos in the first place was that it was considered one of the best games ever. CJ was one of the most assertive and powerful of all of the GTA protags IMO, and he was the protagonist of one of the biggest and highest grossing video games. So I don't understand why they would re-do Vice City in Los Santos. I think the majority of people like the gangster feeling anyways. And of course the trailer implies that the game doesn't have a lot of focus on gangs. But it would seem as if the protagonist could be a former gang member, but to reiterate, FORMER gang member, not a gang leader, or someone who is in a gang.

[Hazelnot]

Why the hell would Rockstar copy the concept from Vice City? The very reason that they returned to Los Santos in the first place was that it was considered one of the best games ever. CJ was one of the most assertive and powerful of all of the GTA protags IMO, and he was the protagonist of one of the biggest and highest grossing video games. So I don't understand why they would re-do Vice City in Los Santos. I think the majority of people like the gangster feeling anyways. And of course the trailer implies that the game doesn't have a lot of focus on gangs. But it would seem as if the protagonist could be a former gang member, but to reiterate, FORMER gang member, not a gang leader, or someone who is in a gang.

It's more of an opinion here. While many people considered CJ to be a good protag, I see him as the worst. He's a gang-banger turned former gang-banger turned gang-banger, and the story is is almost Saints Row-ish, probably the worst. I for one would love to play as someone between Tommy and Niko, because gangstas are over-rated and dumb.

[mulder84]

I hope the protagonist is that older guy from the balcony, starting out as a part-time hired gun/security, not as "low-level" as when Niko started out, but real "classy" ones like those contracted by the mafia. Then halfway through he gets deeper and deeper into the crime business, and finally decides to stay in it and start up a crime organization himself.

[Official General]

 

So what you're saying is you don't want a badass like Tommy Vercetti again?

 

Why not a believable badass than?

 

I'll be back later for more discussion. Gonna watch the movie Rampart.

@ GTA-King

 

I'm not saying I don't want a badass protagonist, I would definitely want the protagonist in GTA V to be a badass guy. I just want a protagonist that is believable and more to real-life AND badass at the same time.

 

I just think its a bit unrealistic to have a criminal protagonist in GTA V as a middle-aged white (possibly Italian-American) mobster in a present-day Los Angeles setting, when its is clear to see that the Mafia barely exist in LA and that the real-life criminal underworld in LA revolves mostly around street gangs, and street gang culture. So in a sense yeah, I do not want to see another Tommy Vercetti - his time was in Vice City, it was legendary and memorable and it should stay that way.

 

For me a believable badass protagonist for V is a Mexican-American protagonist in his 20s who gets caught up with street gangs, drug cartels, FBI, corrupt police and amongst other real bad, crazy sh*t. Now that definitely is believable and fits in perfectly with the LA/Southern California-based setting and theme.

 

Num3rical

 

Will you please just stop sucking on the Mafia's balls for a hot minute ? You and the rest of you Mafia/OC lovers just don't stop! It dont matter what you think about 'gangstas' or street gangs being dumb, its about whatever goes with theme of the game. If street gangs are so dumb like you say, then ask yourself why they still control a lot criminal activity and turf in LA for many years and still up to now ? San Andreas had a 'gangsta' protagonist because that was the theme of the game, 90s LA gang culture. It would be stupid to have a Mafioso protagonist in a game like SA, so stop being so stupid and ignorant. We had Niko, Russian Mob and Mafia in GTA IV because that is what is reflected in the real-life,present-day New York City underworld. Its about what goes well together and how it works, not just someone's blindly biased preferences like yours.

Edited March 16, 2012 by Official General

[Knife]

Where's all this mafia stuff coming from anyway? I don't think he is going to have anything to do with the mafia unless that's the past he's trying to leave behind. Mafia past, moves away, gets involved in some other stuff.

[Official General]

Where's all this mafia stuff coming from anyway? I don't think he is going to have anything to do with the mafia unless that's the past he's trying to leave behind. Mafia past, moves away, gets involved in some other stuff.

Regardless, I just don't feel he is best suited as a protagonist for this kind of setting in GTA V. Others may think he's a middle-aged badass De Niro-style prodigy, but for me I'm not sold.

[Knife]

We know nothing about him yet

[socal000]

I think he'll be freelance. I'm sure there will be some sort of connections or working with gangs at some point, but I don't see him being a gang member.