Sunrise Driver Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Similar situation was with Tampa in TLaD, where full car (along with handling IIRC) was found in add-on files. We still have to pay for BoGT to use this car and nobody was ranting about it (maybe somebody was doing it, but it wasn't so blew up out of proportion). R* weren't selling Tampa for extra $1-2. They probably planned to include it in TLaD and they eventually did it in EFLC TLaD X360 version and all TLaD PC/PS3 versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tycek Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 (edited) Similar situation was with Tampa in TLaD, where full car (along with handling IIRC) was found in add-on files. We still have to pay for BoGT to use this car and nobody was ranting about it (maybe somebody was doing it, but it wasn't so blew up out of proportion). R* weren't selling Tampa for extra $1-2. They probably planned to include it in TLaD and they eventually did it in EFLC TLaD X360 version and all TLaD PC/PS3 versions. And Bioware/EA isn't selling Protean character for 1-2$. They include it in the "From Ashes" add-on that was suppose to be given for free to all Collector's Edition holders. Edited March 14, 2012 by Tycek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 EA are dickheads with DLC, i've got Fifa 12 for xbox and it's possible to create your own team with your own kits and create players, i wanted to make my football team's best ever squad to use on career mode so i went on EA's website spent around a day creating an entire new team to play with, i go on my xbox, download the team and then find out i can't use it on career mode because you have to pay extra money to do it. Konami, on the other hand who make Pro Evolution Soccer include this feature as standard so it's literally just EA being greedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creed Bratton Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Yep, that's EA in a nutshell. EA guy 1: what would players like to be able to do? EA guy 2: make their own team and advance with it in career mode. EA guy 1: great, make it a DLC. We'll milk those suckers dry. EA guy 3: but PES already has that option and it's free EA Guy 1: yeah, but our customers are retarded, don't worry about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gtaghost22 Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 (edited) Similar situation was with Tampa in TLaD, where full car (along with handling IIRC) was found in add-on files. We still have to pay for BoGT to use this car and nobody was ranting about it (maybe somebody was doing it, but it wasn't so blew up out of proportion). Sorry, but WHAT THE f*ck are you talking about?? No matter what peole like you say.. R* will remain the best develope/publisher ever! Why?? Because they respect the GTA community (unlike other companies) ,you cant compare them with greedy companies like Activison, capcom and Bioware, and by the way Tlad & Tbogt are by FAR the best DLC in the history of gaming Edited March 14, 2012 by Gtaghost22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coral_City Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Similar situation was with Tampa in TLaD, where full car (along with handling IIRC) was found in add-on files. We still have to pay for BoGT to use this car and nobody was ranting about it (maybe somebody was doing it, but it wasn't so blew up out of proportion). Sorry, but WHAT THE f*ck are you talking about?? No matter what peole like you say.. R* will remain the best develope/publisher ever! Why?? Because they respect the GTA community (unlike other companies) ,you cant compare them with greedy companies like Activison, capcom and Bioware, and by the way Tlad & Tbogt are by FAR the best DLC in the history of gaming LOL. YOU MUST BE NEW FRIEND Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gtaghost22 Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Similar situation was with Tampa in TLaD, where full car (along with handling IIRC) was found in add-on files. We still have to pay for BoGT to use this car and nobody was ranting about it (maybe somebody was doing it, but it wasn't so blew up out of proportion). Sorry, but WHAT THE f*ck are you talking about?? No matter what peole like you say.. R* will remain the best develope/publisher ever! Why?? Because they respect the GTA community (unlike other companies) ,you cant compare them with greedy companies like Activison, capcom and Bioware, and by the way Tlad & Tbogt are by FAR the best DLC in the history of gaming LOL. YOU MUST BE NEW FRIEND What do you mean?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn 7 five 11 Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Similar situation was with Tampa in TLaD, where full car (along with handling IIRC) was found in add-on files. We still have to pay for BoGT to use this car and nobody was ranting about it (maybe somebody was doing it, but it wasn't so blew up out of proportion). Sorry, but WHAT THE f*ck are you talking about?? No matter what peole like you say.. R* will remain the best develope/publisher ever! Why?? Because they respect the GTA community (unlike other companies) ,you cant compare them with greedy companies like Activison, capcom and Bioware, and by the way Tlad & Tbogt are by FAR the best DLC in the history of gaming LOL. YOU MUST BE NEW FRIEND What do you mean?? Rockstar seems to be heading the way of petty dlc too, items of clothing and other small items in rdr and noire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iminicus Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Similar situation was with Tampa in TLaD, where full car (along with handling IIRC) was found in add-on files. We still have to pay for BoGT to use this car and nobody was ranting about it (maybe somebody was doing it, but it wasn't so blew up out of proportion). Sorry, but WHAT THE f*ck are you talking about?? No matter what peole like you say.. R* will remain the best develope/publisher ever! Why?? Because they respect the GTA community (unlike other companies) ,you cant compare them with greedy companies like Activison, capcom and Bioware, and by the way Tlad & Tbogt are by FAR the best DLC in the history of gaming LOL. YOU MUST BE NEW FRIEND What do you mean?? Rockstar seems to be heading the way of petty dlc too, items of clothing and other small items in rdr and noire. Noire is Team Bondi not Rockstar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrcTOtheJ Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 I know, DLC seems to be a 75/25 deal, as in 25% of it is worth it, and the other 75% is s*** like Capcom dose with it on disk (I‘m looking at you SFxTekken, and you RE:5 “Gold Edition.” which is why I allways wait until the SUPER ULTIMATE ARCADE GOLD edition or what not for a Capcom game) or like CoD, a map pack with like 3 maps (Other people have done this too), and nothing really game changing at all. Where as the other 25% are things that truly expand on game play, and aren’t some sort of Skin pack or some s*** that had no reason to be in the game, examples of the rare good DLC, are FO:3’s, and NV’s DLC, most of Oblivions, Valve’s DLC’s for their games, and EFLC with GTAIV, not to mention undead nightmare with RDR. But yeah I agree TC, most DLC is getting to be plain BS made to make money, ethier by being on the disk or something akin to the Horse Armor fiasco (though Beth did learn from it) where as rarely it turns out to be good, expansive content. Oh and don’t get me started on exclusive DLC. (I’ve forgiven R* and EFLC…but still waiting for it was a pain, and I‘m now also looking at Op Raccoon city and Capcom again *Evil death stare*) Also I hope GTA and R* dosen’t go with the MP3 style Pre order bonuses route. (Then again GTA dosen’t need things to boost sales) Honestly I just hope DLC changes from the Day one bonus packs and what not, and to expansions like Point Lookout for FO:3, Shivering Isle with Oblivion, or EFLC with GTAIV. Sorry for the rant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Noire is Team Bondi not Rockstar. As the publishers, Rockstar and Take-Two probably had the final say when it came to downloadable content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn 7 five 11 Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Noire is Team Bondi not Rockstar. As the publishers, Rockstar and Take-Two probably had the final say when it came to downloadable content. Yeah, I realize that they are different, but the publisher is in charge of marketing and dlc is something they would have control over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gtaghost22 Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Rockstar seems to be heading the way of petty dlc too, items of clothing and other small items in rdr and noire. I dont think so.. Even if they released some small DLCs for RDR they still gave us "Undead Nightmare" for a reasonable price and i think it was a great DLC, so i dont think R* will ever go the route of small/unworthy Dlc (i hope so) , as for LA.Noire it was team bondi that made the game not R* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrcTOtheJ Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Rockstar seems to be heading the way of petty dlc too, items of clothing and other small items in rdr and noire. I dont think so.. Even if they released some small DLCs for RDR they still gave us "Undead Nightmare" for a reasonable price and i think it was a great DLC, so i dont think R* will ever go the route of small/unworthy Dlc (i hope so) , as for LA.Noire it was team bondi that made the game not R* Yeah but as said before, Rockstar published it, so they had a pretty big hand in what DLC got released and didn’t. So yeah with that and Max Payne I to have some fear that R* might hop on the useless/petty DLC band wagon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightwalker83 Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Noire is Team Bondi not Rockstar. As the publishers, Rockstar and Take-Two probably had the final say when it came to downloadable content. As the publisher of Silent Hill Homecoming what the hell were Konami thinking for the PC version? That game is full of bugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attorney General Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 After skimming the thread, I gotta agree with what a few of you have said in that DLC has to be viewed on a case by case basis. A DLC pack like TBoGT was absolutely a worthwhile purchase whereas Gears 3 was found to have portions of future dlc that shipped on the disc from day one. Only after coughing up some dough for the season pass could it be unlocked. Epic is notorious for pulling shady sh*t like this. To me...that's grand larceny. Came across this a few weeks ago. Pretty accurate if you ask me.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightwalker83 Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Came across this a few weeks ago. Pretty accurate if you ask me.. I wonder how it will be in the next 6 to 12 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OysterBarron Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 COD base game free dlc pay for weapons! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrcTOtheJ Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 After skimming the thread, I gotta agree with what a few of you have said in that DLC has to be viewed on a case by case basis. A DLC pack like TBoGT was absolutely a worthwhile purchase whereas Gears 3 was found to have portions of future dlc that shipped on the disc from day one. Only after coughing up some dough for the season pass could it be unlocked. Epic is notorious for pulling shady sh*t like this. To me...that's grand larceny. Yeah it really dose need to be judged on a case by case basis you do get some really bad DLC things like with SFxT and then you have good things like with Shivering Isles on Oblivion. Oh and that picture is so true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthYENIK Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 After skimming the thread, I gotta agree with what a few of you have said in that DLC has to be viewed on a case by case basis. A DLC pack like TBoGT was absolutely a worthwhile purchase whereas Gears 3 was found to have portions of future dlc that shipped on the disc from day one. Only after coughing up some dough for the season pass could it be unlocked. Epic is notorious for pulling shady sh*t like this. To me...that's grand larceny. Yeah it really dose need to be judged on a case by case basis you do get some really bad DLC things like with SFxT and then you have good things like with Shivering Isles on Oblivion. Oh and that picture is so true. Don't bring up Shivering f*cking Isles. Its still $30. Is there any console DLC that cost more than that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iminicus Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 After skimming the thread, I gotta agree with what a few of you have said in that DLC has to be viewed on a case by case basis. A DLC pack like TBoGT was absolutely a worthwhile purchase whereas Gears 3 was found to have portions of future dlc that shipped on the disc from day one. Only after coughing up some dough for the season pass could it be unlocked. Epic is notorious for pulling shady sh*t like this. To me...that's grand larceny. Yeah it really dose need to be judged on a case by case basis you do get some really bad DLC things like with SFxT and then you have good things like with Shivering Isles on Oblivion. Oh and that picture is so true. Don't bring up Shivering f*cking Isles. Its still $30. Is there any console DLC that cost more than that? Shivering Isles It is 2400 MS Points, that isn't $30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthYENIK Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 After skimming the thread, I gotta agree with what a few of you have said in that DLC has to be viewed on a case by case basis. A DLC pack like TBoGT was absolutely a worthwhile purchase whereas Gears 3 was found to have portions of future dlc that shipped on the disc from day one. Only after coughing up some dough for the season pass could it be unlocked. Epic is notorious for pulling shady sh*t like this. To me...that's grand larceny. Yeah it really dose need to be judged on a case by case basis you do get some really bad DLC things like with SFxT and then you have good things like with Shivering Isles on Oblivion. Oh and that picture is so true. Don't bring up Shivering f*cking Isles. Its still $30. Is there any console DLC that cost more than that? Shivering Isles It is 2400 MS Points, that isn't $30. Don't get me started on MS points. This is about DLC, and 2400 MS points is $30 worth. Plus they also sell it on PSN, still for $30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iminicus Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 After skimming the thread, I gotta agree with what a few of you have said in that DLC has to be viewed on a case by case basis. A DLC pack like TBoGT was absolutely a worthwhile purchase whereas Gears 3 was found to have portions of future dlc that shipped on the disc from day one. Only after coughing up some dough for the season pass could it be unlocked. Epic is notorious for pulling shady sh*t like this. To me...that's grand larceny. Yeah it really dose need to be judged on a case by case basis you do get some really bad DLC things like with SFxT and then you have good things like with Shivering Isles on Oblivion. Oh and that picture is so true. Don't bring up Shivering f*cking Isles. Its still $30. Is there any console DLC that cost more than that? Shivering Isles It is 2400 MS Points, that isn't $30. Don't get me started on MS points. This is about DLC, and 2400 MS points is $30 worth. Plus they also sell it on PSN, still for $30. MS Points are being dropped. Doesn't it add something like 20 hours of game play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthYENIK Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Yeah, but you can get the GOTY edition for $20. That's the full game and it includes Shivering Isles and Knights of the Nine. That's probably a hundred and fifty or more hours of gameplay (I know I played up to 200 hours on a character) for $10 less. And that includes the very same 20 hours of gameplay you speak of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Gypsy Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 (edited) i totally agree with the thread title... f*ck DLC!! these days devs literally insult us by releasing day 1 DLC's which is content that should have been in the standard copy. money grabbin c*nts is what they are. its very rare a DLC gets released in a justified way these days, with substantial content, at a reasonable price with a reasonable time frame. sadly, this relatively new trend of insulting money making DLC's wont stop, until the customers WISE THE f*ck UP. and i cant see that happening... ever. Edited March 16, 2012 by Cosmic Gypsy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OysterBarron Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 That is the big question! Is it the fault of the developer selling unfinshed products as people put it, or the customers buying the unfinshed product in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Gypsy Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 That is the big question! Is it the fault of the developer selling unfinshed products as people put it, or the customers buying the unfinshed product in the first place? good contribution. i say both. every1 knows most of the general public population are retarded, so devs take advantage of this. but devs also have a responsibility to deliver a decent 100% finished product without blatantly ripping people off. devs are the real c*nts and the customer are just blind. but yeah cant just blame one or the other, both are to blame for the decline in finished game products and justified DLC's. im finding hard to word my point, hopefully u get the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatstupidbug Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Came across this a few weeks ago. Pretty accurate if you ask me.. I wonder how it will be in the next 6 to 12 years. i think in 6-12 years games will be like that and every piece of the puzzle is 15 to 30 bucks back in topic, one of the problem is "don't trust the dev team"... Volition (Saints row third) said that, even if they announced DLC before the relase, NOTHING was cut from the game... guess what? in the data files there are a lot of (locked) DLC i'll buy the game if i can trust the company, but today everyone is a liar. Even R* wasn't an angel about DLCs: ok, TBOGT and TLAD were pretty good, but the story in gta IV has too mutch loose ends and you are forced to buy the dlcs to understand the storyline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn 7 five 11 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 That is the big question! Is it the fault of the developer selling unfinshed products as people put it, or the customers buying the unfinshed product in the first place? Still the developers fault, here's a comparison this is a hypothetical example. imagine all the oil companies decided to raise prices of oil so fuel cost $3 a litter, is it the customers fault? Is it up to us to stop this and make oil companies play fair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trip Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 That is the big question! Is it the fault of the developer selling unfinshed products as people put it, or the customers buying the unfinshed product in the first place? You guys know that question has been asked since the beginning of the gaming industry...right? It's not the developers fault nor the customers fault. It is the fault of publishers and bean counters. We all just have to accept a little bit of change now and then. Remember the first few Half Life games? They were full, long games. Then Valve decided to make the series episode based. Since they were one of the first to release their game in chucks, why are we not directing our DLC bitching towards them since they half started the DLC ball rolling? Maybe we should go back to when video games cost a quarter a play and you were lucky if one play was 5 minutes long. I'm not busting out the old man gamer card or anything. I think we should all just accept how spoiled we are when it comes to what is available. We also can't change the greed of business. Accept and move on. At the very least you will be able to tell your grandchildren of the good old days when a video game came with all the clothing options for the main character at no extra cost. My crappy games at MyCrappyGames.com Free copy of Save The Puppies and Kittens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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