jdrandall38 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 I love it when people think they know what RockStar wants to do. GET THIS: Video Games aren't real life! There are no "UNIVERSES" or "DIMENSIONS" when it comes to Video Games and in this particular case Grand Theft Auto. You have no idea what Rockstar will do with the GTA series. If they want to bring back Tommy Vercetti or CJ or any body else from the GTA III era they can do whatever the hell they want and owe us no explanation. So as for putting any reasoning for this subject, your spinning your wheels. The underlining factor lies with Rockstar and the direction they want to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrinPA Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 I think this whole debate can be decided by having an American vs Austrilian war.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trideez Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 I love it when people think they know what RockStar wants to do. GET THIS: Video Games aren't real life! There are no "UNIVERSES" or "DIMENSIONS" when it comes to Video Games and in this particular case Grand Theft Auto. You have no idea what Rockstar will do with the GTA series. If they want to bring back Tommy Vercetti or CJ or any body else from the GTA III era they can do whatever the hell they want and owe us no explanation. So as for putting any reasoning for this subject, your spinning your wheels. The underlining factor lies with Rockstar and the direction they want to go. Exactly. I can't wait to hear these idiotic universe theorists try to backpeddle their way out of all the bullsh*t they've dug themselves into when the game comes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gtaghost22 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 As for OG Loc, I don't believe he was even in IV? There was an easter egg about him in GTA IV, in the Bohan apartment/safehouse look on the floor next to the table using a sniper rifle you will see some albums.. One of them is made by Og Loc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsmooth16 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 I love it when people think they know what RockStar wants to do. GET THIS: Video Games aren't real life! There are no "UNIVERSES" or "DIMENSIONS" when it comes to Video Games and in this particular case Grand Theft Auto. You have no idea what Rockstar will do with the GTA series. If they want to bring back Tommy Vercetti or CJ or any body else from the GTA III era they can do whatever the hell they want and owe us no explanation. So as for putting any reasoning for this subject, your spinning your wheels. The underlining factor lies with Rockstar and the direction they want to go. Exactly. I can't wait to hear these idiotic universe theorists try to backpeddle their way out of all the bullsh*t they've dug themselves into when the game comes out. I cant wait to see how you try to backpaddle your way out of it when you finally find out famalies and the ballas wont be in v. And cj tommy or the mute wont be in v so get over it, r* is moving beyond all that old sh*t from the ps2 days. The only characters returning will be from Gta IV case close n stfu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ll rdny ll Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 (edited) @jdrandall38 @trideez http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtop...st&p=1061142427 read the link, and tell me we're still 'theorists' We're basing our opinions on what Rockstar, themselves, have said. Just what are you guys basing yours on? A few easter eggs? Look up the definition of 'Easter Eggs in Videogames' Here ya go: Easter Egg: Non-canonical (i.e. nothing to do with the game storyline) hidden bonuses placed in the game by developers. Should require a complicated or unusual in-game task to find. Edited March 12, 2012 by rodneythesavior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAfro77 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 (edited) If CJ is in another universe/dimension like you say he is who is the black guy running away from the cops in the alley way, it sure looked like CJ to me in his white wife beater and blue jeans\ who knows it could be CJ but older, im not saying hes in the protagonist but he could be involved in the story somehow And its not like characters from different GTA games haven't been in the same game before claude made n appearance GTA SA, he wasn't playable but he made a cameo in the story Edited March 12, 2012 by MrAfro77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ll rdny ll Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 If CJ is in another universe/dimension like you say he is who is the black guy running away from the cops in the alley way, it sure looked like CJ to me in his white wife beater and blue jeans\ who knows it could be CJ but older, im not saying hes in the protagonist but he could be involved in the story somehow [imgIt's not CJ.jpg/IMG] And its not like characters from different GTA games haven't been in the same game before claude was GTA SA, he wasn't playable but he made a cameo in the story According to that logic, there are three of the same person in this image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOTMILFDAD Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 (edited) GET THIS: Video Games aren't real life! There are no "UNIVERSES" or "DIMENSIONS" when it comes to Video Games and in this particular case Grand Theft Auto. Let me introduce you to three of the most deepest "universes" there are in video games: The Halo Universe, The WoW Universe, and The Legend of Zelda's Universe. Those 3 games have some of the most deepest universes out there and to say that video games can't have "universes" is just daft. Every video game, movie, TV, book, comic, etc. series has a universe whether you like it or not...and this includes the GTA series. So learn 2 research before you go posting about nonsense Exactly. I can't wait to hear these idiotic universe theorists try to backpeddle their way out of all the bullsh*t they've dug themselves into when the game comes out. I believe you missed a quote from Rockstar - I'll even highlight the important parts for you : El Burro is referenced as he was also referenced in GTA 1, so it felt appropriate that he should cross “universes” – the “universes” are the worlds interpreted at different definitions, 2d, 3d and high definition, so we felt brands and radio / back ground characters would exist in both, but 3 dimensional characters would not. This is the logic (as far as it could be considered logical) behind it – so no, we don’t believe any GTA3 characters could exist in the GTA4 universe. Edited March 12, 2012 by Nigel xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celticfang Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 How could you miss out the Elder Scrolls universe there huh?? Everything has a universe, TV, movies, games, books, even those trashy $2 ones Also about Claude, he was in SA as a cameo, as III-VC-SA are part of R*'s 3D Universe, or, same game engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOTMILFDAD Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 How could you miss out the Elder Scrolls universe there huh?? Everything has a universe, TV, movies, games, books, even those trashy $2 ones Also about Claude, he was in SA as a cameo, as III-VC-SA are part of R*'s 3D Universe, or, same game engine. I was going to put Elder Scrolls' universe there instead of WoW's but I know nothing about TES I also missed Mass Effect's, Star Wars', and a big one: Final Fantasy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rare.steak Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 GTA IV is a complete re-imagining of the Grand Theft Auto universe. It's a reboot. It has absolutely no continuity with GTA III, VC or SA. Claude does not exist in the GTA IV/V universe. Tommy Vercetti does not exist in the GTA IV/V universe. Carl Johnson does not exist in the GTA IV/V universe. Their stories took place in another dimension. The closest thing to continuity is the radio. None of these characters will ever come back. You won't see them, they won't play them, and you won't hear about them. Now quit it. Hey look it's Captain Obvious trying to start a revolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arvis Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 It's really stupid seeing people trying to enforce their opinion of what will and won't be in future titles. Whatever era it is, if R* wanted they could bring back any character, any time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallHax Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 I read your post in the voice of Howard Stern, lulz were had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woggleman Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Why are Lazlo and OG Loc in IV if it is a completely different universe? I don't think somebody that doesn't actually exist would be on the radio or making records. Lazlow is a character in himself in the GTA series, and nothing like him in real life. The character he plays in IV is very different to the one in III's canon. We see a progression from awkward radio intern to cynical, bored and surly through-out the series. In IV, he's a socially awkward, desperate and frankly pathetic radio host who's a complete try-hard. It's only his name that links the two. As for OG Loc, I don't believe he was even in IV? I don't remember where but I saw a pile of cds on a table in the game and one of them was OG Loc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ll rdny ll Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Why are Lazlo and OG Loc in IV if it is a completely different universe? I don't think somebody that doesn't actually exist would be on the radio or making records. Lazlow is a character in himself in the GTA series, and nothing like him in real life. The character he plays in IV is very different to the one in III's canon. We see a progression from awkward radio intern to cynical, bored and surly through-out the series. In IV, he's a socially awkward, desperate and frankly pathetic radio host who's a complete try-hard. It's only his name that links the two. As for OG Loc, I don't believe he was even in IV? I don't remember where but I saw a pile of cds on a table in the game and one of them was OG Loc. Its an easter egg, nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niall Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 (edited) This argument is so tired and silly, from both angles. The only FACT is that R* can do whatever they want with their characters, even if they want to one day say certain characters won't reappear and the next day put those very characters in a game, they can. All this "Never" and "No Way" reminds me of the same thing being adamantly said about the IV DLC's "Never ever coming to the PS3". At the end of the day none of us here make any of the rules, what we think doesn't matter, R* quotes or not! Edited March 12, 2012 by Niall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V 9 L U K 3 4 V Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 GTA IV is a complete re-imagining of the Grand Theft Auto universe. It's a reboot. It has absolutely no continuity with GTA III, VC or SA. Claude does not exist in the GTA IV/V universe. Tommy Vercetti does not exist in the GTA IV/V universe. Carl Johnson does not exist in the GTA IV/V universe. Their stories took place in another dimension. The closest thing to continuity is the radio. None of these characters will ever come back. You won't see them, they won't play them, and you won't hear about them. Now quit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capricornus Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Why are Lazlo and OG Loc in IV if it is a completely different universe? I don't think somebody that doesn't actually exist would be on the radio or making records. Lazlow is a character in himself in the GTA series, and nothing like him in real life. The character he plays in IV is very different to the one in III's canon. We see a progression from awkward radio intern to cynical, bored and surly through-out the series. In IV, he's a socially awkward, desperate and frankly pathetic radio host who's a complete try-hard. It's only his name that links the two. As for OG Loc, I don't believe he was even in IV? I don't remember where but I saw a pile of cds on a table in the game and one of them was OG Loc. Its an easter egg, nothing more. Yes exactly. I canot see how people who play GTA don't know what Easter Eggs are at this point. They gotta stop overlooking things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trideez Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Rockstar can do whatever the f*ck they want, end of story. CJ can come back as the main protaganist if Rockstar wants him to. There is nothing stopping them from bringing back anyone from previous games. They don't give a f*ck about the stupid universe rule or your interpretation of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOTMILFDAD Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Rockstar can do whatever the f*ck they want, end of story. CJ can come back as the main protaganist if Rockstar wants him to. There is nothing stopping them from bringing back anyone from previous games. They don't give a f*ck about the stupid universe rule or your interpretation of it. If they don't give a f*ck about it..why did they say it in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trideez Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 He was describing a thought process, not a rule etched in stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meson1 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Personally I think GTA:V will quite firmly be the same 'era' as GTA:IV, and as such will represent a continuation of the 'HD universe.' Of course, how GTA:V fits into the series has not been absolutely confirmed as yet. But I feel that there are a number of hints seem to point to it being part of their 'HD era' along with IV. One of these hints is the fact that they came out with their explanation for separation of universes (i.e. 2D, 3D and HD) when GTA:V had been long in development. So I think this makes it quite likely that GTA:V will conform to said explanation. But ultimately, it's all as flexible as they want to make it. It depends where their creativity takes them. For instance, I also remember reading what Rockstar said about III era when GTA:IV first came out. And while I cannot remember it word for word, I do recall that when they were talking about IV being separate to III it did stick out that they did stop short of saying that they would never revisit the III era universe ever again. (i.e. they left themselves open to potentially doing so in the future, not that it was likely.) But right now, I think that they had a bit of a reboot starting with IV and that seems to be likely to continue for the foreseeable future as they explore storytelling this new HD universe. But at some point in the future that will change again. They could have another reboot, or return to III/3D era, or who knows what. They could change their own rules to suit whatever they want to do. To quote a great man, "Anything could happen, and it probably will." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdrandall38 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Rockstar can do whatever the f*ck they want, end of story. CJ can come back as the main protaganist if Rockstar wants him to. There is nothing stopping them from bringing back anyone from previous games. They don't give a f*ck about the stupid universe rule or your interpretation of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
florisinfernus Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Rockstar can do whatever the f*ck they want, end of story. CJ can come back as the main protaganist if Rockstar wants him to. There is nothing stopping them from bringing back anyone from previous games. They don't give a f*ck about the stupid universe rule or your interpretation of it. common sense +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
florisinfernus Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Rockstar can do whatever the f*ck they want, end of story. CJ can come back as the main protaganist if Rockstar wants him to. There is nothing stopping them from bringing back anyone from previous games. They don't give a f*ck about the stupid universe rule or your interpretation of it. If they don't give a f*ck about it..why did they say it in the first place? To explain wtf they did in the past, it is not some infinite rule for the universe, they can change it whenever they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Stern Posted March 17, 2012 Author Share Posted March 17, 2012 Of course the creators and writers can do whatever they want. But they won't import characters from the GTA III universe because my interpretation of their current plans is 100% correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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