Braindawg Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 OK, So we all know how stupid the AI in GTA can get, but I'm not talking about the combat AI, I'm taking about how the peds act when they are not being encountered with the player. It's always funny and interesting at the same time to see how the computer makes all those people behave. Mostly peds will just walk around each other, not interacting with anything, maybe answer a phone call, sit on a bench and read a news paper, talk to other peds according to 3 line conversations such as Ped 1 introdution: "Hey!" Ped 2 responce: "Hi." Ped 1 random line: "Menthol cigarettes are for old people!" Ped 2 responce (agree/disagree): "Totally!" or "No way!" Ped 1 goodbye: "Well, gotta go!" Ped 2 goodbye: "See ya!" And just walk around each other, like they don't know the person they've talked to half a second ago. I'd like to see stuff like: People actually stumbling on the side walk People talking about other people they see on the streets People waving to eachother (wether passing by on foot, or by car). This could look cool if drivers would honk to peds they "know", maybe offer a ride. Drunk people, maybe people fighting. People going in and out of homes and schools, and other third party buildings that arent accesable to the player, and so on. People reporting crimes to officers (in person, rathen than calling the cops with a patroling officer 5 feet from them) Basically, what do you think? Should Rockstar come up with a new approach on how to bring those random people to life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mats17 Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Thieves who steal a old woman's bag or people who take over a cash transport car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraizer Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Was just thinking earlier today, it would be nice if when there is a car accident, and it kills the driver, peds will jump out of their car, or run over from the sidewalk, look in the car window and yell "CALL 911!" or "Oh my god, he's dead!" Maybe in some instances when a car was on fire, peds would jump into action and try and pull the ped in distress out of the car... Cool sh*t like that would make GTA leaps and bounds above anything in any open world game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirthOfMayhem Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Was just thinking earlier today, it would be nice if when there is a car accident, and it kills the driver, peds will jump out of their car, or run over from the sidewalk, look in the car window and yell "CALL 911!" or "Oh my god, he's dead!" Maybe in some instances when a car was on fire, peds would jump into action and try and pull the ped in distress out of the car... Cool sh*t like that would make GTA leaps and bounds above anything in any open world game. Thats a good idea. Maybe a nearby police officer would clear the crowd away untill an ambulance arrived? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangsta-NL Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Was just thinking earlier today, it would be nice if when there is a car accident, and it kills the driver, peds will jump out of their car, or run over from the sidewalk, look in the car window and yell "CALL 911!" or "Oh my god, he's dead!" Maybe in some instances when a car was on fire, peds would jump into action and try and pull the ped in distress out of the car... Cool sh*t like that would make GTA leaps and bounds above anything in any open world game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gtaghost22 Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Ped A.I in RDR was greatly improved over GTA IV and that game is 2 years old now, so.. I'm GTA V will have even better Peds A.I than RDR (another game made by R*) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireboyd78 Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 (edited) People actually stumbling on the side walk - I believe this is totally possible. All for it. People talking about other people they see on the streets - This might be somewhat possible, but they would have to be some pretty generic responses such as "Did you see that drunk guy over there?" People waving to eachother (wether passing by on foot, or by car). - This could look cool if drivers would honk to peds they "know", maybe offer a ride. - I think peds knowing each other would be a bit too much, maybe just random hitchhikers? Drunk people, maybe people fighting. - I think this is definitely possible, lol People going in and out of homes and schools, and other third party buildings that arent accesable to the player, and so on. - I don't know how that would work, other than pedestrians randomly phasing into buildings...not such a good idea. People reporting crimes to officers (in person, rathen than calling the cops with a patroling officer 5 feet from them) - I don't see this kind of feature being implemented, calling the cops is good enough. Edited March 10, 2012 by CarLuver69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EscoLehGo Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 I don't want the peds acting too sensibly, like if they see a car crash I don't want them saying sh*t like "OMG, do you think he's ok?" or "Jesus Christ someone call an ambulance for those people!". I'd rather it be more GTA style like "sh*t, at least it wasn't me!" or "God Damn muhf*cka! Sucks to be you right now!". If they start pulling people out of burning cars and sh*t they'll seem to nice and sensible and will be entirely less fun to kill. I feel the same way about cops, people for some reason want the cops to behave more normally and be less quick to shoot, less violent and stupid etc. But if the cops act sensibly and like normal people then they'll be less fun to kill, cops and peds in GTA have typically always been assholes/weirdos/stereotypes and they need to stay that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mats17 Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 People actually stumbling on the side walk - I believe this is totally possible. All for it. People talking about other people they see on the streets - This might be somewhat possible, but they would have to be some pretty generic responses such as "Did you see that drunk guy over there?" People waving to eachother (wether passing by on foot, or by car). - This could look cool if drivers would honk to peds they "know", maybe offer a ride. - I think peds knowing each other would be a bit too much, maybe just random hitchhikers? Drunk people, maybe people fighting. - I think this is definitely possible, lol People going in and out of homes and schools, and other third party buildings that arent accesable to the player, and so on. - I don't know how that would work, other than pedestrians randomly phasing into buildings...not such a good idea. People reporting crimes to officers (in person, rathen than calling the cops with a patroling officer 5 feet from them) - I don't see this kind of feature being implemented, calling the cops is good enough. About the 2nd one, you mean like the girls on the pier and the sixpack guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cole Phelps Gta Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 I hope they keep the pushing glitch. It's kinda hard to explain and i cant upload a video. You know how in iv you can walk into someone and it pushes them without you phyiscally pushing them ? They need to bring that back i drowned so many people with that glitch and i NEVER got a wanted level it was awesome !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Assassin Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 I wonder how long it takes before Zee makes his presence in this thread bashing GTA IV's A.I again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonnyBlack Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 (edited) There's some pretty cool ideas in this thread, but I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't miss the old conversations between peds. IMO, it has its own little charm to it, especially when their responses have nothing to do with what either was saying. I always got a laugh out of their simplicity. Edit: Although I would like them to drive better. Oh god would I like them to Just. Drive. Better... those f*cking cab drivers... Edited March 11, 2012 by sonnyBlack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Darko Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 I believe the various ped interactions and actions in the GTA V trailer were scripted and made for the trailer specifically, but I think the point of the trailer was to place a focus on the feel of the city. I think if that's a focus in the game as well, then we are likely to see many improvements in the way peds act. It's not going to be perfect but I do think we'll see better ped AI than in GTA IV. Each III-era game had a little improvement in every aspect between each installment. To be specific, though, I'm almost positive we'll see the drunk people stumbling around in front of bars. It was in RDR, after all, and that moment in the trailer sort of looked like it was happening in real-time with the euphoria engine. Cool stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA_La_Costra_Nostra Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 I hope those ideas will happen. The biggest fear for me is that maybe R* is overstating how ambitious this game will be. But if there is one thing about the environment they need to improve, its definitely the AI on the street and in cars. BTW: How good is the RDR AI, I've only played it for 5 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernutz40 Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 I wonder how long it takes before Zee makes his presence in this thread bashing GTA IV's A.I again? Ha, that's the reason I keep checking this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death2Drugs Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Was just thinking earlier today, it would be nice if when there is a car accident, and it kills the driver, peds will jump out of their car, or run over from the sidewalk, look in the car window and yell "CALL 911!" or "Oh my god, he's dead!" Maybe in some instances when a car was on fire, peds would jump into action and try and pull the ped in distress out of the car... Cool sh*t like that would make GTA leaps and bounds above anything in any open world game. Thats a good idea. Maybe a nearby police officer would clear the crowd away untill an ambulance arrived? This would make my day SOOOOO much. It just felt awkward whenever somebody died in a car accident nobody came to help. It just felt dead... (no pun intended) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKON8ERISBACK Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 GTA San Andreas has over 10,000 pieces of pedestrian dialogue BTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn 7 five 11 Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 I would like to see a few scripted arguments that turn into fights... 1- "Hey fatass" 2- "How bout you come here and say it you gym junkie" 1- "/ What are you gonna do" *walks over * 2- " im gonna woop your ass" *both start brawling* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CryptReaperDorian Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 BTW: How good is the RDR AI, I've only played it for 5 minutes. The AI was pretty good, and the things that AI did really stuck out. However, too many things felt forced. You would basically come across either a horse thief or a pack of wolves every five minutes (just like Roman calling Niko to ask him if he wants to go bowling). I found the AI to become way too irritating after a while, but that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braindawg Posted March 11, 2012 Author Share Posted March 11, 2012 About the 2nd one, you mean like the girls on the pier and the sixpack guy? It's a cutscene. That doesn't count sinse it's not the A.I, it's a recorded animation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshGTAfreak Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Was just thinking earlier today, it would be nice if when there is a car accident, and it kills the driver, peds will jump out of their car, or run over from the sidewalk, look in the car window and yell "CALL 911!" or "Oh my god, he's dead!" Maybe in some instances when a car was on fire, peds would jump into action and try and pull the ped in distress out of the car... Cool sh*t like that would make GTA leaps and bounds above anything in any open world game. Let's not get ahead of ourselves here... First we should try to at least make it so the ambulances don't kill everyone upon arrival... D T 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_E_N_1992 Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 yes it should improve. longer talking time and when people talk to each other there shouldn't be a long break when someone has finished there sentence.. 1 second max then the other person replys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mats17 Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 About the 2nd one, you mean like the girls on the pier and the sixpack guy? It's a cutscene. That doesn't count sinse it's not the A.I, it's a recorded animation. It isn''t a cutscene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobu24 Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 I would like to see a few scripted arguments that turn into fights...1- "Hey fatass" 2- "How bout you come here and say it you gym junkie" 1- "/ What are you gonna do" *walks over * 2- " im gonna woop your ass" *both start brawling* I love this idea. I always wondered why gta IV was such a step backwards in ai interactions. They probably did it to try and lower the bar then bring it back just to pretend they're doing us a favor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mats17 Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 people who pee on trees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bG_Roman Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Agreed we really need to see more things happening than peds walking around, surprised nobody actually mentioned this but how about actually seeing random peds jack cars, mug, and run from the cops or even shootouts? Especially with the three protagonist system in place there could be an occurrence where you're playing as Franklin and than you just come across Trevor in a gunfight with the cops and you can even help him out by driving up to him and giving him a ride out of the situation. Although occurrences like this should be rare so it doesn't get repetitive and boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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