metalllike Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Hi ho everybody. So i´ve got a little problem. I have an AMD Athlon x2 250 with 3GHz 4 Gig ram and a Nvidia Geforce 9600GT and i´m running Windows 7 64bit as OS. my graphicsettings are: 1920x1080 16:9 rest set to middle details, viewrange and detailrange 19 and 13 traffic 11 sharp on and VSync on... The Details are okay for me, but on the benchmark-test i got 23fps.. in game as while noghing is reloading the game runs very fine.. but sometimes extrem crappy. For the same settings (or may a little bit better)... what for a hardware component you can advise me to change? CPU? Graphiccard? Thanks for your help PS: Sorry for my bad english, i´m not a native speaker ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luceberg Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 I would upgrade the video card to an nvidia 560 or ATI 5770, depending on budget. Also, if you are handy, get an aftermarket cpu cooler and overclock the cpu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoječ Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 It would be best to upgrade both CPU and GPU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anus Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Yep, best to upgrade both the CPU and video card. However, if you're in a 'I want to upgrade both the CPU and video card, but I only have money for one thing right now and want to know what will give me the biggest performance boost' situation (), upgrade the CPU. If going with AMD, go for AM3+, any CPU in that range is fine. If going for Intel, go for 1155 and get atleast a i5 2500k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unc13bud Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 everybody has posted good info in this thread, but i want you to understand exactly why you are getting this sort of performance... so i am going to quote and then answer: my graphicsettings are: 1920x1080 16:9 this is too high a resolution for a dual core CPU in my opinion. maybe try 1280/1440 using the memrestrict settings posted in the rockstar toronto thread here http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=404147 rest set to middle details, viewrange and detailrange 19 and 13 traffic 11 sharp on and VSync on... the view and detail ranges need to be set at 10 or lower. traffic set to 1. reflection off. shadows low, turn clip capture off. can turn water low also, if it doesn't bother you (i do, rarely do water missions anyway) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalllike Posted March 10, 2012 Author Share Posted March 10, 2012 (edited) At first, tank you all for your aswers.... @unc13bud: Yes, for better perfomence with my hardware NOW. But i´m searching for a soulution to play GTA 4 with my posted settings. Okay... I can also Play with the settings... but if i am infight, its a bit "laggy".. @Warlord: Thanks alot... This was exatly the asnwer of my question. I think about to buy an AMD FX6 6100 CPU. Price is okay... this one: http://www.amazon.de/AMD-Six-Core-Prozesso..._cp_computers_3 i know it´s a german site ... but.. What do you think about it? nice one? bad? okay? ^^ Thanks alot Edited March 10, 2012 by metalllike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoječ Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Nah. Avoid this one, I wouldn't recommend AMD FX CPUs. What you should know is that FX6 6100 isn't really a six-core CPU, it's more like triple-core. It's a better idea to buy Phenom 960T instead, especially seeing as some samples of this CPUs can be unlocked to Phenom II X6. http://geizhals.de/519248 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalllike Posted March 10, 2012 Author Share Posted March 10, 2012 Hm.. okay.. thanks price are the same... Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcaliber81 Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 (edited) I recently bought an AMD FX 6100 black edition and I'm extremely happy with it I'd say get it, plus I got a gtx 560 ti and I'm getting 60 plus fps in the in game benchmark and it plays gta 4 really good with no stuttering lags or anything Plus aren't the phenoms only a quad, and the fx is a six? Edited March 11, 2012 by xcaliber81 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anus Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 (edited) I recommend getting a Bulldozer chip over a Phenom II. The FX6100 you linked to seems great. No matter what you may read on review sites regarding the Bulldozer chips, the vast majority of people who own a Bulldozer chip are very happy with it. Despite what benches may say, the Bulldozer is a very fast and capable CPU. Oh and the FX8150 is the most bang for buck CPU available now. Edited March 11, 2012 by Warlord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoječ Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 (edited) I wouldn't be so enthusiastic about Bulldozers, especially when games (and not benchmarks like Passmark) are concerned. From what I know, Phenom 960T isn't really that much slower than FX8150 (in some games it's even faster) , and it costs way less and also consumes less power (especially after overclocking where the difference is just huge - over 100W). Personally, I wouldn't recommend FX CPUs for gaming - there are better CPUs out there that will do the job for lower price. Not to mention i5-2500k which costs less than FX8150, but it's way better for gaming. I'd rather wait for AMD Piledriver than buy Bulldozer CPU. Edited March 11, 2012 by yojo2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcaliber81 Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 im not having any issues that would make me concerned, that fx chip is playing gta 4 flawlessly, im just wondering yojo are you talking smak because you've had an fx chip and didnt like it or are you just going on assumptions, look at my benchmark in gta 4 64 bit you'll see how good my game is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoječ Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 (edited) I didn't say FX will perform _bad_ in GTA4, it's just that you could buy similarly (or even better) performing CPU for less. It's kinda similar when people with noname PSUs are saying they're good, because they seem to work... Edited March 11, 2012 by yojo2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeesPwnMets Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 im not having any issues that would make me concerned, that fx chip is playing gta 4 flawlessly, im just wondering yojo are you talking smak because you've had an fx chip and didnt like it or are you just going on assumptions, look at my benchmark in gta 4 64 bit you'll see how good my game is Yojo knows a bit more then most of the members that mainly work in this section.... he's not some kid that just joined; he's been around for a pretty long time already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoječ Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Thanks for the appreciation. But, here's what I want to make clear: I don't feel like I'm the most tech-savvy users on these forum (Warlord has definitely much more experience). Anyway, what I want to say is that my posts are my personal opinions. If someone disagrees with me, that's totally fine - it's not like I'm never wrong. That's why I like internet forums so much - everyone can have their opinion. From what I could gather AMD FX CPUs do not perform as well in most games as their older counterparts - Phenom II X4. That might be because single Bulldozer module has one FPU and two ALU (and yet AMD considers one module to contain two physical cores). This is the key to the "uneven" performance of Bulldozers - in some tests it is okay, in some it fails miserably. And, from what I know, games mostly make use of FPU. Personally, I do like the general idea of this CPU, but I think they pushed it on the market a bit too early, and marketing is a bit misleading. I hope that Piledriver will be what Bulldozer should be from the very beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unc13bud Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Yes, for better perfomence with my hardware NOW. But i´m searching for a soulution to play GTA 4 with my posted settings. then get 960t or x4 925 and gtx 570. i play with x4 925/gtx 465 (352 shaders) @ 1920x1200 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regor245 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 (edited) With FX's processors. Here's my Opinion: You will need a new MoBo or you will need to update your AM3 mobo for Am3+ Processors. So i recommend you to get the Phenom II X4 955BE or higher. Edited March 12, 2012 by Regor245 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 (edited) It would be best to upgrade both CPU and GPU. A 9600GT is in realm of GTA 4, this game is already over a year old, it should work with a variety of LESS THEN NEW cards, I did hear multicore CPUs will aid the game if you move up to Ballad of Gay Tony there's a performance hit, and perhaps iCE as well. I am hoping to get 16GB Ram on my board and see it move along at much faster clip, using my 4 core Intel I have already, sell my i3/4GB 1156 board and get an IvyBridge later on, next year perhaps. Since the Core2 and Intel's successive socket upgrades, AMD has not been able to have More Cores beat the engineering of the Core2 and Sandy Bridges, This is really the case when you consider that AMD has chosen not to counter Intel's tech on CPUs any longer. They did hope to have a powerful multicore, but Intel's going from strength to strength more so then AMD has been, though in the past, their designs were lauded for their efficiency, while Intel pushed for brute CLOCK speed force. Edited March 12, 2012 by Slamman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcaliber81 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 With all due respect my last CPU was an AMD ATHALON 64X2 4800+ so this is a HUGE upgrade to me and im not looking for tomorrows technology today and the fx is doing everything i want it to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoječ Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Well, any modern CPU would be a huge upgrade from A64X2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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