Slamman Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 (edited) DDR2 is still out there, it's at a premium price though, Which is why I'm not a happy camper with all this DDR3 one-up-manship. The above comment about 4GB x1 could simply mean one stick that is 4GB RAM, what you need to get 16GB with 4 slots, Now I love the mega-mobos with four slots on each side of the CPU, then you're playing with power, RAM wise! Edited March 13, 2012 by Slamman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leik oh em jeez! Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Now I love the mega-mobos with four slots on each side of the CPU, then you're playing with power, RAM wise! That's just the Intel LGA2011 boards setup like that. My old workstation board I ran with all eight slots filled and never had problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyphonPayne Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 (edited) @Slamman Yes, I was talking about 4GB x1 vs 2GB x2. If it were me I'd just go for 2GB x2 now and then get another 4GB x2 later if needed for 12GB. Or go cheaper and get another 2GB x2 instead. Edited March 13, 2012 by SyphonPayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Of course, a 2GB stick is still more affordable, a bit of a no-brainer, DDR3 has really come down in price, unlike other PC parts, I'd like to know why this one item just became so damn affordable, everything else is more moula Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyphonPayne Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I didn't say "a" 2GB stick... Gahhh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn 7 five 11 Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 I didn't say "a" 2GB stick... Gahhh... I think you were expecting too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinky12 Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Intel Core i3 2100------------------------$124.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819115078 BioStar H61 M/B------------------------$49.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813138332 G.Skill 4GB DDR3 1333--------------$19.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820231423 Rosewill 530w--------------------$49.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16817182199 Asus HD6770--------------------$109.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814121474 Seagate 500GB-----------------$85.49 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822148767 Samsung DVD-----------------$15.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16827151244 Rosewill mATX case-------------$39.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16811147122 subtotal: $496.92 S&H: $6.77 (from graphic card)* Grand total: $503.19 ($547.87 w/tax)* *tax rate and other fees depends on which state you live in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 (edited) My Biostar system is for sale, using 4 GB 1333Mhz DDR3, Core i3 550, 3.2 with HTT Case from Cooler Master, Hoping for $300, but I can be bargained with! hahaha miniATX, but I'll throw in the ATI HD5450 with 1GB vRAM, I need the PSU though, it's only 400watts I am opting to go Ivy Bridge later on As for Syphon's comment I didn't say "a" 2GB stick... Gahhh.. The way I read it, you DID, a 2GB stick means 1 physical STICK OF RAM with 2GB memory, that means installed, you used up one of your memory space slots, get me!? I don't know what else you're trying to say. Buy two sticks of 2GB each? Finn4Life, bugger off, I am talking more about the situation I'd be doing, pricing based on a per stick basis, there are kits, but that's not the same price, in some cases you can eek a deal, but it's not a rule one can rely on Edited March 14, 2012 by Slamman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyphonPayne Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Buy two sticks of 2GB each? Bingo. You finally get it. As for Stinky12's build it's pretty good but I would go for http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819115077 and http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820231396 instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Well, that's pretty much a given when you type it as "2GBx2", it will then also occupy two physical board slots, but HEY, there's no law against selling your old parts to upgrade. Some people like CC have an issue with that, an illogical issue if you ask me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyphonPayne Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 (edited) I give up. Just forget it. Everyone else knows what I am talking about. After checking stinky's build again, I think yojo's mobo is better with 4 ram slots, at least in terms of upgradeability. Edited March 14, 2012 by SyphonPayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinky12 Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 (edited) We all know what you're talking about, but it all depends on when it's necessary and when it's not. In the real world, a user will not notice any difference between dual channel and single channel. The only way to tell is by running benchmarks on 2 machines with identical hardware in a side by side comparison. Edited March 14, 2012 by Stinky12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyphonPayne Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 But as I said before going single channel would only save $10 over the next 3 years so why not go dual? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinky12 Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 It's simple, I see ram capacity is more important than dual channel. e.g. A board with 2 ram slots supports a max of 8GB Person A gets a single 4GB stick Person B gets a pair of 2GB sticks Both systems has a total of 4GB A few months later on, both decided to upgrade to full 8GB. Person A grabs another 4GB, total 8GB. Person B now has some problems. In order for him to get 8GB, he has to ditch his old rams and get a pair of 4GB (2x4GB) just to get to the full 8GB. If he wants to save one of his 2GB and grab a single 4GB stick, he can only max out at 6GB. Not only did he waste money on his old rams, he also has to pay extra (by buying the 4GB) even though he can't get the full 8GB, like he wanted to. Person A saves money by thinking ahead. Person B only think of what's he wants currently, hasn't think in the long run. The system configurations here only has a single stick of ram is for the the ability to upgrade down the road. And once the ram is upgraded it will become dual channel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leik oh em jeez! Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 I doubt his sister will ever use all of the 4Gb, much less 8Gb. Having her brother build her a computer, she doesn't come across as the type of person that cares about maxing out the memory on a motherboard, or ever upgrading unless it's something that's really needed. The benefits of dual channel are ALWAYS there. The only time more than 4Gb EVER comes in handy is when she's using more than 4Gb, which I'd wager will be never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyphonPayne Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 (edited) It's simple, I see ram capacity is more important than dual channel.e.g. A board with 2 ram slots supports a max of 8GB Person A gets a single 4GB stick Person B gets a pair of 2GB sticks Both systems has a total of 4GB A few months later on, both decided to upgrade to full 8GB. Person A grabs another 4GB, total 8GB. Person B now has some problems. In order for him to get 8GB, he has to ditch his old rams and get a pair of 4GB (2x4GB) just to get to the full 8GB. If he wants to save one of his 2GB and grab a single 4GB stick, he can only max out at 6GB. Not only did he waste money on his old rams, he also has to pay extra (by buying the 4GB) even though he can't get the full 8GB, like he wanted to. Person A saves money by thinking ahead. Person B only think of what's he wants currently, hasn't think in the long run. The system configurations here only has a single stick of ram is for the the ability to upgrade down the road. And once the ram is upgraded it will become dual channel. The solution is simple. Don't get a board with only 2 slots. Also, as I said before, it will only save $10 over the course of 3 years (when memory prices inevitably drop.) I highly doubt that his sis will be upgrading before 3 years, if she ever does. Even if she upgrades the next day, it's still only $20 more. Also, if she gets a board with 4 slots, she can get an 8GB set and have 12GB. Edited March 14, 2012 by SyphonPayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinky12 Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 DRAM maker Elpida has filed for bankruptcy. Analysis says dram price are expected to go up. http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20120302-707333.html I went with that board cause I tried to get a whole system under the $500 budget excluding shipping. If OP can go over, then here I pick this board. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813121506 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn 7 five 11 Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Buy your ram right now then and save some money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 (edited) PC2 buyers, I believe there are 4 different speed types, mine came with PC2 4200, but I was tending to think that was the lowest, but it's up one from the lowliest speed in DDR2 spec! I found it hard to get a handle on all the various numbers since you can skip from one package of RAM to the next and see them labeled differently, so do a bit of homework, you won't get burned. The first time I set up my DDR2 system, I used TOO LOW a Ram for the board and it refused to run, but the RAM was good, just not the right speed required Syphon, all my newer boards only had two Ram slots, but they were supporting 8GB, I'm fine with that though, With my only DDR3 board, again 2 slots, but running 4GB as 2 sticks each, but HELL, I started with a set of 1GB per slot, I got a damn good deal on both I think, but I can't use the 2GB so they are for sale! haha Edited March 15, 2012 by Slamman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leik oh em jeez! Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Jesus Christ, since when do we need a market analysis professional or more than 4Gb to build a cheap computer for a family member? Go for 2x2Gb and leave it at that. The one kit is only two or three dollars more. Since your sister will never need more than 4Gb, the dual slot board should be fine. If your sister's PC ever starts to seem slow, I can promise you an extra stick or two of RAM isn't going to fix it. Maybe a defrag and a good software cleaning. Above all else, know your application for a build. Don't pay extra for upgradability that will never be used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyphonPayne Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Did not know that about DRAM prices, however I still think it's worth it to go 2x2GB. Liek oh em jeez is right though, doubtful that adding more RAM will even be worth it over the years, but even if it is necessary, still not a whole lot more money for dual channel vs single. This is getting sort of repetitive, think OP forgot about this thread anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinky12 Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 OP ditch his thread and when to buy a Dell instead. Speaking of Dell, their system aren't cheap especially if you want discrete graphics and they use the extreme low-end models: HD5450. HP right now lets buyers customize it with the new AMD 7000 series graphic cards. HD7450, HD7570, and HD7670. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf68k Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 OP ditch his thread and when to buy a Dell instead. Locked for this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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