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SIKKS66

Not living in the US, I don't get to hear big updates about my Bills team unless I seek them out (thank fook for the Bleacher Report app on my phone). Was surprised to read about the Williams deal a few days back. Great move, that defence is looking mean as hell. Just have to hope they stay fit. Can't wait to see who gets drafted smile.gif

 

Tebow was criticised for being too undisciplined and wild last season, particularly in the playoffs when his inexperience showed. Manning will be a great mentor for the younger QB. He will take Tebow to the next level while being a cooler head in the pocket in those important games.

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El Dildo

since whoever moderates this forum decided to simply lock my thread instead of merging it with the proper one (like a good moderator would have done) I guess I'll just copy/paste it here now.

 

 

in case you haven't heard...

http://espn.go.com

 

this is insane. so much for Tebow mania yeah?

his ass is outta' here. they don't even want to keep him as the backup, they're already shopping offers.

 

right now the preliminary Manning talks are around 5 years / $95Million.

which would make him like 41 years old at the end of the deal.

but of course 40 is the new 35 at least, especially for professional athletes with the best medical care on Earth.

 

my dad lives in Greenwood Village, Colorado which is literally 5 minutes away from the Bronco's training facility. I'm gonna' go visit him soon to watch Peyton work out during the public practices. sh*t's gonna' be like Mardi Gras atmosphere.

 

Tebow has potential but he was a bit wild and undisciplined last season. Manning could be a great mentor.

 

I agree with you about Tebow.

they should keep him behind Manning, it would be perfect for his future career and for Denver.

 

I'm not sure what Denver or Tebow (or other teams that could sign him) have to gain right now from trying to implement a sub-par quarterback into a traditional NFL passing offense. if another team signed Tebow this year they'd have a better chance of setting him up as an offensive weapon like a running back.

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interpolfan11

Am I the only won who thinks that Manning is crazy for going to the Broncos rather than the 49ers?

 

Now fricking Manning is in my beloved Bolts' division, but I'm not too worried since the Bolts tend to play to their competition.

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Nick Foster

Well, this isn't the way i hoped it would pan out. Manning obviously signed with the Broncos because they paid him more, and he didn't have to face his brother in the Conference championship game. Shame really, how money and personal feelings trump winning, with Manning signing with the Broncos rather than the Niners. Now we're in deep trouble, with Smith irked at Baalke for trying to chase him out of town for Manning. If Smith doesn't come back next year, Colin Kaepernick better learn quick.

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tubbs51

Manning is the key to Elway getting rid of Tebow. I think he'll be traded or cut. And will eventually sign with the Jaguars.

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El Dildo

 

Am I the only won who thinks that Manning is crazy for going to the Broncos rather than the 49ers?

nah I think you're right.

San Fran has a better chance of winning the Super Bowl tomorrow than the Broncos.

 

but more than anything I think Peyton made his choice between a combination of where he feels comfortable AND where he has a decent chance of winning.

I'm thinking Jim Harbaugh makes Manning more uncomfortable than John Fox.

 

 

Manning obviously signed with the Broncos because they paid him more

I'm sorry but this is just dead wrong.

 

if you do a little research you'll find that his potential offers would have been the same no matter where he wound up.

it's going to be about 20Million a year because that's about what he was getting from the Colts and it would put him on par with other top free-agents.

 

it's pretty standard what each team was offering.

he wasn't going to get much more or less if he ended up with another team than Denver. his decision was not about the money.

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AmyJones
I take back what I said. I stated that as he is injury able still. Looks like he is going to start for Denver and Tebow will have to find another place to go. what a twisted event this is.

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I take back what I said. I stated that as he is injury able still. Looks like he is going to start for Denver and Tebow will have to find another place to go. what a twisted event this is.

And i love it tounge.gif

 

both as a Seahawks fan (no Manning in Red and Gold) and a supposed Tebow Hater.

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GTA3Rockstar
Manning obviously signed with the Broncos because they paid him more

I'm sorry but this is just dead wrong.

 

Exactly, how can you know what he's going to be paid if he hasn't signed the contract yet? We don't even know the details. icon14.gif

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Capricornus

I also feel that the 49ers would have been a better fit. I guess that Peyton did not want to be in a situation that would possibly lead up to him eliminating his own brother for Superbowl contention. Maybe he would rather face him in the superbowl, if he makes it there?

 

Anyway, I am sure that Peyton has his reasons alongside of the whole John Elway thing.

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Funktipus
I also feel that the 49ers would have been a better fit. I guess that Peyton did not want to be in a situation that would possibly lead up to him eliminating his own brother for Superbowl contention. Maybe he would rather face him in the superbowl, if he makes it there?

 

Anyway, I am sure that Peyton has his reasons alongside of the whole John Elway thing.

Peyton to the 49ers would have changed the balance of power in the NFC, and made SF the favorites to win the Super Bowl. From everything I've read, what you said about Peyton not wanting to face Eli in a conference championship is true. Plus, Peyton wanted to stay in the AFC, being more familiar with those teams.

 

As more my Super Bowl champion Giants, we lost Jacobs, Manningham and now Aaron Ross who signed with Jacksonville. Such is life in the NFL. You can't keep everybody.

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I also feel that the 49ers would have been a better fit. I guess that Peyton did not want to be in a situation that would possibly lead up to him eliminating his own brother for Superbowl contention. Maybe he would rather face him in the superbowl, if he makes it there?

 

Anyway, I am sure that Peyton has his reasons alongside of the whole John Elway thing.

Peyton to the 49ers would have changed the balance of power in the NFC, and made SF the favorites to win the Super Bowl. From everything I've read, what you said about Peyton not wanting to face Eli in a conference championship is true. Plus, Peyton wanted to stay in the AFC, being more familiar with those teams.

 

As more my Super Bowl champion Giants, we lost Jacobs, Manningham and now Aaron Ross who signed with Jacksonville. Such is life in the NFL. You can't keep everybody.

Yeah man, I was certain that you guys would have kept Manningham. I also felt the same about David Tyree..

 

Ahmad Bradshaw is great, I would who would accompany him besides DJ Ware?

 

And also, where do you all see Tebow going?

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Funktipus
Yeah man, I was certain that you guys would have kept Manningham. I also felt the same about David Tyree..

 

Ahmad Bradshaw is great, I would who would accompany him besides DJ Ware?

 

And also, where do you all see Tebow going?

Manningham wanted a bigger role and more money. It wasn't going to happen in NY, with Nicks and Cruz the primary targets. I'll miss him - dude made some BIG catches in the playoffs, the biggest in the Super Bowl.

 

Right now, Jerry Reese can do no wrong. I'm sure he'll find another running back to complement Bradshaw. I think we have a couple of young backs already. Now they get a chace to prove themselves.

 

Unfortunately, Tebowmania will not die. He'll probably go to Jacksonville or Miami. He's considered a god in Florida.

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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d827b...1_breaking_news

 

Well, Peyton Manning is oficially signed. Its a five year deal, no details on the numbers yet.

Found the numbers on adam schefter's twitter: 5 year deal worth $96m. $18m without injury protection in 2012, there's an injury waiver based on a physical in 2013. if he passes that physical he gets $40m guaranteed with a waiver

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El Dildo

you knew there was gonna be a huge clause concerning his neck injury.

 

they need a way to void about half the contract should Peyton suddenly re-aggravate the nerves and be unable to play.

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GTA3Rockstar
you knew there was gonna be a huge clause concerning his neck injury.

 

they need a way to void about half the contract should Peyton suddenly re-aggravate the nerves and be unable to play.

 

ongoing discussion about injury language in the contract,

 

There is.

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Jonesizzle

Denver needs to get rid of Tebow. The last thing Manning, Elway and the Bronco's organization needs is Mile High stadium chanting Tebow as soon as Manning messes up. Be prepared to hear about the likes of Julius Thomas, Eric Decker, Demariyus Thomas and the re-emergence of Eddie Royal.

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Capricornus

 

Denver needs to get rid of Tebow. The last thing Manning, Elway and the Bronco's organization needs is Mile High stadium chanting Tebow as soon as Manning messes up. Be prepared to hear about the likes of Julius Thomas, Eric Decker, Demariyus Thomas and the re-emergence of Eddie Royal.

Indeed. When Peyton was playing for my Colts, he really turned Austin Collie and Pierre Garcon into some nice recievers. Before that we didn't really know who they were. I think it'd be great if Dallas Clark and Jeff Saturday were to join Manning in Denver, but maybe its a long shot.

 

I fail to see who on earth will try to pick up Curtis Painter, even as a third string QB lmao.

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interpolfan11
Denver needs to get rid of Tebow. The last thing Manning, Elway and the Bronco's organization needs is Mile High stadium chanting Tebow as soon as Manning messes up. Be prepared to hear about the likes of Julius Thomas, Eric Decker, Demariyus Thomas and the re-emergence of Eddie Royal.

Eddie Royal was signed by the Chargers. tounge2.gif

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Funktipus

Breaking news from WFAN:

 

Broncos traded Tebow to the Jets for a 4th round pick. Dumb Jets. I wouldn't give up a 7th round pick for that dude. This wasn't a football move. The Jets braintrust can't get over the Giants beating them and going on to win the Super Bowl. They hate being second to Big Blue. The Tebow move is all about publicity, headlines and selling tickets/jerseys. Tebow isn't all that, but he's extremly popular and generates buzz. Woody Johnson(the Jets owner) wants that.

 

 

The NFL has suspended Sean Payton for a year.

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Breaking news from WFAN:

 

Broncos traded Tebow to the Jets for a 4th round pick. Dumb Jets. I wouldn't give up a 7th round pick for that dude. This wasn't a football move. The Jets braintrust can't get over the Giants beating them and going on to win the Super Bowl. They hate being second to Big Blue. The Tebow move is all about publicity, headlines and selling tickets/jerseys. Tebow isn't all that, but he's extremly popular and generates buzz. Woody Johnson(the Jets owner) wants that.

 

 

The NFL has suspended Sean Payton for a year.

I agree. Tebow is an awful QB who benefitted from stubborn defensive coordinators not just playing coverage and putting a spy on him. He's effectively the equivalent of the wildcat formation in 2008, a gigantic fad that only worked due to defensive coordinators' temporary incompetence.

 

This is also horrible for Tebow because the Jets can't develop quarterbacks for sh*t.

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Capricornus
Breaking news from WFAN:

 

Broncos traded Tebow to the Jets for a 4th round pick. Dumb Jets. I wouldn't give up a 7th round pick for that dude. This wasn't a football move. The Jets braintrust can't get over the Giants beating them and going on to win the Super Bowl. They hate being second to Big Blue. The Tebow move is all about publicity, headlines and selling tickets/jerseys. Tebow isn't all that, but he's extremly popular and generates buzz. Woody Johnson(the Jets owner) wants that.

 

 

The NFL has suspended Sean Payton for a year.

Wow, Sean Peyton suspended for a year.. With this whole bounty thing, I wonder if his image will be tarnished a bit.

 

Tebow going to the Jets, not thay good of a move. Now they have two crappy QB's for Santonio Holmes to get pissed with. I know they feel he can ease the tension in the locker room and help with Wildcat offenses, but he's just a sh*tty QB. Waste of money. At least he will fill in the seats and sell those jerseys.

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El Dildo

my home team is the St. Louis Rams (I currently live/work in Denver) and we also got some sh*tty news in the latest cycle.

 

Payton may have been suspended for the entire year, but our new defensive coordinator Gregg Williams (suspected orchestrator of the bounty) was suspended immediately and indefinitely; which means he may never coach again and we'll have to get a new D coordinator already.

 

what a wild day.

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SIKKS66

Bills adding strength to their defence while simultaneously weakening the Patriots by signing Mark Anderson. Some offenses are going to bleed this year.

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interpolfan11
Bills adding strength to their defence while simultaneously weakening the Patriots by signing Mark Anderson. Some offenses are going to bleed this year.

Wow, that's a good signing. The Bills will definitely be able to get to the quarterback this year. If the offense is as good as it was in the first five games of last season, the Bills could easily go deep in the playoffs.

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Funktipus

The Tebow trade has hit a snag. The Jets didn't read the fine print. Tebow has about $5 million worth of recapture language in his contract, meaning the Jets would have to pay back some money to Denver, and the Jets might be unwilling to do that. Typical Jets, lol. Stay tuned.

 

 

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Nick Foster

Alex Smith re-signs with the Niners. Glad to have him back on board. icon14.gif

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Alex Smith re-signs with the Niners. Glad to have him back on board.  icon14.gif

I'm glad to hear that he's back on board with the 49ers and not too upset about the Peyton Manning debacle. It was only natural for his team to pursue one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time, and it's impressive that Smith was mature enough to understand that. Although I'm sure Smith is no stranger to adversity due to all that discussion about him being a bust.

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interpolfan11

Tebow to the Jets has been confirmed.

 

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id...ade-second-time

 

The Broncos also gave a 2012 7th round pick in return for a 2012 4th and 6th round pick from the Jets.

 

And as I said earlier, this is a stupid trade for the Jets who should be signing weapons for Sanchez rather than bulking up on mediocre quarterbacks.

 

Even ScareCro (Antonio Cromartie) is against this move.

 

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/post/_/id/...-help-not-rival

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