GANG WAR!

March 6, 2012

Exactly, which is why I brought it up.

March 6, 2012

I slept all day, which is why I'm late responding to people's posts. Anyways, SGT, I am DEFINITELY talking about #1 in your question. The bet is not if Sweet or CJ will return, it's that the HUGE GANG that they represented will return. There are over 50,000 gang members in LA, no one individual gang member is ALL THAT IMPORTANT. The Families will go on just fine without Sweet or CJ.

That said, I do think CJ will be in the game, perhaps just on the radio or on billboards since he seems to have taken up modelling, lol.

And about saying that I'm 100% correct, it's just how I feel. Did they show Beverly Hills (R* version) in the trailer? No, but I am 100% sure it will be there because it's an integral part of LA, just like the Families and Ballas are. But yeah, I could perhaps say 99% just because, like you said, I don't KNOW with absolute certainty that they'll be there, but I'd be willing to bet my account or even real life money on it that they will.

And welcome to the Lions @ the 2 new EG's! The map direly needs more RED! lol

Edited March 6, 2012 by Trideez

March 6, 2012

I just want to know why you guys are so sure the game will include the gangs when GTA IV had no gangs from III?

What makes you so damn sure that OGF/Ballas/whomever will be in it?

Because they take up half the story in San Andreas?

Yeah..but so did the Triads, Mafia, Yakuza, and the Cartel in GTA III and yet - we didn't see them in IV (well, we didn't see the same gangs that were in III).

March 6, 2012

Liberty City (III) wasn't the SAME CITY as Liberty City (IV)! Liberty City III was a generic mix of a bunch of American cities, Liberty City IV was NEW YORK CITY. Los Santos on the other hand WAS Los Angeles in SA and still IS Los Angeles in V.

March 7, 2012

Because Los Santos was a clear replica of Los Angeles in the GTA III universe and it is in this upcoming installment. GTA III's Liberty City, however, was not based on New York City but GTA IV's was. Just by using hopeful logic you might expect that there would be more continuity between GTA III's LS and V's LS more so than between the two Liberty's.

March 7, 2012

Liberty City (III) wasn't the SAME CITY as Liberty City (IV)! Liberty City III was a generic mix of a bunch of American cities, Liberty City IV was NEW YORK CITY. Los Santos on the other hand WAS Los Angeles in SA and still IS Los Angeles in V.

3 era LC was still based off NYC.

I even proved that to you in the "returning gangs" thread.

March 7, 2012

3 era LC was still based off NYC.

I even proved that to you in the "returning gangs" thread.

They were not "gangs" in GTA III they were organizations, as well Niko dealt mostly with eastern european groups not the cartels and what not. as well organizations can change much quicker than gangs, even in the real world they are slowly dwindling.

March 7, 2012

3 era LC was still based off NYC.

I even proved that to you in the "returning gangs" thread.

NO it wasn't and I'm going to eat dinner so I can't go look up the quote right now, but maybe you can or someone else can post it. If not, I'll post it when I get back. Or rather I'll just quote it from the top of my head:

Dan Houser: Liberty City in III was NEVER meant to be NYC. It was a generic city based off of a bunch of different US cities like Philly, Chicago, NYC, etc. It was a generic version of America.

Go look up the real quote if you need more clarity.

March 7, 2012

Here's the question and answer:

In GTA III, you begin in the lower-class corner of Liberty City, a kind of Brooklyn/Queens area. Over the course of the game, you expand into the Manhattan-ish downtown, and then finally into the wealthy suburbs. When did you hit on that as the progression for the game?

That Liberty City was not particularly meant to be New York. That was meant to be a hybrid of a generic American city: Chicago, Pittsburgh, Detroit, New York, Philly. An old, post-industrial American city. [GTA III] was America, whereas Vice City was clearly Miami.

here's the link: http://popwatch.ew.com/2011/10/21/grand-th...ary-dan-houser/

waiting for Made Man to reply with his usual intriguing "Hmmmm" or "I see...."

March 7, 2012

3 era LC was still based off NYC.

I even proved that to you in the "returning gangs" thread.

They were not "gangs" in GTA III they were organizations, as well Niko dealt mostly with eastern european groups not the cartels and what not. as well organizations can change much quicker than gangs, even in the real world they are slowly dwindling.

My post had nothing to do with what you just said...

But, if 3 era Liberty city was based off NYc.

March 7, 2012

3 era LC was still based off NYC.

I even proved that to you in the "returning gangs" thread.

NO it wasn't and I'm going to eat dinner so I can't go look up the quote right now, but maybe you can or someone else can post it. If not, I'll post it when I get back. Or rather I'll just quote it from the top of my head:

Dan Houser: Liberty City in III was NEVER meant to be NYC. It was a generic city based off of a bunch of different US cities like Philly, Chicago, NYC, etc. It was a generic version of America.

Go look up the real quote if you need more clarity.

Dude, I already know that 3 era LC is not just based off LC, but the majority of it was! I already told you this Here I will re post what I posted to you in another thread, so everyone can see including EscoLehGo....

Staunton Island in GTA 3 was obviously made to be like Manhattan.

And Belleville Park was obviously made to be central park.

Also I can say that GTA V is not just going to be LS but Southern California. And that 3 era SA was not a good depiction of California(even though it was intended to be) because it had cities that aren't even in Cali(Las Vegas) and Cities that were far away from LA(San Francisco). San Francisco and LA and not that close the way GTA SA depicted it. You know whats funny, 3 era SA is not just based off Cali, but Nevada and possible Arizona. R did not confirm that SA was just based off Cali, but multiple states on the west coast.

GTA V is going to be SoCal, so it will not include LV and SF, it will be more accurate depiction of California. Thus V SA and 3 era SA NOT BEING THE SAME.... I can say that....

March 7, 2012

Dude, Dan Houser co-creator of the game, does not agree with your theory

March 7, 2012

What theory?

March 7, 2012

What theory?

Your theory that says LC(III) was based on NYC even though they clearly said it wasn't.

March 7, 2012

Your theory that says LC(III) was based on NYC even though they clearly said it wasn't.

When the hell did I say 3 era LC was based off NYC??? When???

I said the majority of the city was based off NYC, I showed you pics geez. You can obviously can tell by this.

Then I countered your argument by saying 3 era SA was not a good depiction of Cali(like LC was not a good one on NYC) because it was also based off Nevada and possibly Arizona(Bone County).

March 7, 2012

They were not "gangs" in GTA III they were organizations, as well Niko dealt mostly with eastern european groups not the cartels and what not. as well organizations can change much quicker than gangs, even in the real world they are slowly dwindling.

My post had nothing to do with what you just said...

But, if 3 era Liberty city was based off NYc.

it was mostly directed at nigel xd. sorry should have made that clear.

March 7, 2012

They were not "gangs" in GTA III they were organizations, as well Niko dealt mostly with eastern european groups not the cartels and what not. as well organizations can change much quicker than gangs, even in the real world they are slowly dwindling.

My post had nothing to do with what you just said...

But, if 3 era Liberty city was based off NYc.

it was mostly directed at nigel xd. sorry should have made that clear.

Oh, my bad also.

March 7, 2012

An interview with Dan Houser:

In GTA III, you begin in the lower-class corner of Liberty City, a kind of Brooklyn/Queens area. Over the course of the game, you expand into the Manhattan-ish downtown, and then finally into the wealthy suburbs. When did you hit on that as the progression for the game?

That Liberty City was not particularly meant to be New York. That was meant to be a hybrid of a generic American city: Chicago, Pittsburgh, Detroit, New York, Philly. An old, post-industrial American city. [GTA III] was America, whereas Vice City was clearly Miami.

I think that settles it.

Edit: Oh yeah I forgot the link...

http://popwatch.ew.com/2011/10/21/grand-th...ary-dan-houser/

March 7, 2012

Your theory that says LC(III) was based on NYC even though they clearly said it wasn't.

When the hell did I say 3 era LC was based off NYC??? When???

I said the majority of the city was based off NYC, I showed you pics geez. You can obviously can tell by this.

Then I countered your argument by saying 3 era SA was not a good depiction of Cali(like LC was not a good one on NYC) because it was also based off Nevada and possibly Arizona(Bone County).

You didn't counter anything. You say "the majority of LC III was based on NYC" and I say BULLsh*t, NO THE f*ck IT WASN'T and ROCKSTAR NEVER said it WAS. And Manhattan isn't the only place in America with tall buildings FYI. The pic you are claiming is Manhattan can just as easily be Philly or any other major f*ckin city in America. SO, it's not that III wasn't as good a depiction of NYC as IV was...III was NO DEPICTION WHATSOEVER of NYC. LOS SANTOS has ALWAYSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS been Los Angeles! And who the hell is talking about a state???? LOS SANTOS in V is NOT "Southern California", LOS SANTOS is LOS ANGELES, the surrounding coutryside, hills, etc will be "Southern Cali" but LOS SANTOS IS f*ckING LOS SANTOS IS LOS SANTOS IS LOS ANGELES!

March 7, 2012

When the hell did I say 3 era LC was based off NYC??? When???

I said the majority of the city was based off NYC, I showed you pics geez. You can obviously can tell by this.

Then I countered your argument by saying 3 era SA was not a good depiction of Cali(like LC was not a good one on NYC) because it was also based off Nevada and possibly Arizona(Bone County).

You didn't counter anything. You say "the majority of LC III was based on NYC" and I say BULLsh*t, NO THE f*ck IT WASN'T and ROCKSTAR NEVER said it WAS. And Manhattan isn't the only place in America with tall buildings FYI. The pic you are claiming is Manhattan can just as easily be Philly or any other major f*ckin city in America. SO, it's not that III wasn't as good a depiction of NYC as IV was...III was NO DEPICTION WHATSOEVER of NYC. LOS SANTOS has ALWAYSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS been Los Angeles! And who the hell is talking about a state???? LOS SANTOS in V is NOT "Southern California", LOS SANTOS is LOS ANGELES, the surrounding coutryside, hills, etc will be "Southern Cali" but LOS SANTOS IS f*ckING LOS SANTOS IS LOS SANTOS IS LOS ANGELES!

what he said.

March 7, 2012

Yea, what Trideez said, now go ahead and rebuttal with one of your "hmmmm...." or "oh I see" statements

March 7, 2012

I posted this in the other thread "Confirmed v.s. Unconfirmed" but I'd like to say it here also.

INFER-

1. to derive by reasoning; conclude or judge from premises or evidence:

So we CAN INFER some things that Rockstar hasn't necessarily "confirmed". Such as "Since the game is taking place in Los Santos, we can infer that there will be palm trees!"

or Since the game is taking place in 2012, we can INFER that there will be cell phones. Did Rockstar confirm cellphones? NO, but by using REASONING, we can confidently state that there will be cellphones.

SO, follow the logic here: Since the game is in Los Santos, and since Los Santos is based on Los Angeles, and since Los Angeles is filled with Bloods and Crips, and since Bloods and Crips are called Families and Ballas in Rockstar games, WE CAN INFER THAT THEY WILL BE IN THE GAME!

March 7, 2012

When the hell did I say 3 era LC was based off NYC??? When???

I said the majority of the city was based off NYC, I showed you pics geez. You can obviously can tell by this.

Then I countered your argument by saying 3 era SA was not a good depiction of Cali(like LC was not a good one on NYC) because it was also based off Nevada and possibly Arizona(Bone County).

You didn't counter anything. You say "the majority of LC III was based on NYC" and I say BULLsh*t, NO THE f*ck IT WASN'T and ROCKSTAR NEVER said it WAS. And Manhattan isn't the only place in America with tall buildings FYI. The pic you are claiming is Manhattan can just as easily be Philly or any other major f*ckin city in America. SO, it's not that III wasn't as good a depiction of NYC as IV was...III was NO DEPICTION WHATSOEVER of NYC. LOS SANTOS has ALWAYSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS been Los Angeles! And who the hell is talking about a state???? LOS SANTOS in V is NOT "Southern California", LOS SANTOS is LOS ANGELES, the surrounding coutryside, hills, etc will be "Southern Cali" but LOS SANTOS IS f*ckING LOS SANTOS IS LOS SANTOS IS LOS ANGELES!

You can obviously freaking tell that Staunton Island and Beville Park are based off Manhattan and Central park. No sh*t Manhattan is not the only place with tall buildings, but the way Staunton island was layed out, it looked closely to Manhattan... You can obviously tell that Bedford point(a district in Staunton Island) is loosely based off Times squares.

You don't have to freaking tell me that 3 era LC is not based on NYC, no sh*t. But parks like Portland, Chinatown, Beville Park, Staunton Island, Bedford Point,etc,etc are! Thats why I said the majority of it was, because some people actually thought that 3 era LC was based off of NYC until R confirmed it!

No sh*t LS IS LS! What I was trying to say that GTA V is possibly isn't going to be JUST LOS SANTOS! But might include other cities, R didn't really confirm it is just LS. Even if it is LS and surrounding areas, its still not going to be just LS, but will include deserts, country side,etc. What I am trying to say is that V SA is actually going to just be SoCal, a more accurate depiction of California(Like IV LC was a more better depiction of NYC). Where GTA SA san andreas was based off not just California, but also Nevada and Arizona! R didn't even confirm that the state of SA was just Cali! I'm saying this because you said 3 era was not NYC and I say 3 era SA was not California, but multiple states and you know that.

You act like LS will just be in the game and missions and stuff will only be in LS. R said this will be there biggest game, so they might include other smaller cities. This will be a totally different SA and LS in GTA V.

GTA SA San Andreas= Southern/Northern California, Nevada and Arizona

GTA V San Andreas= Southern California.

@EscoLehGo

Actually say something useful or actually try to help Trideez in this debate, instead of riding him.

Edited March 7, 2012 by The Made Man

March 7, 2012