Trideez Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I'm just happy that people like Cheesy are wrong. I wish more would bet their accounts on it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gar4man Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Trideez I bet you my account they will not be in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazelnot Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I'm just happy that people like Cheesy are wrong. I wish more would bet their accounts on it though. How do you know we are wrong? It's another universe, how do you expect gangs from San Andreas to appear in it? Inter-dimensional travel? There will be bloods and crisps, I'm not saying there won't. They'll just be called something else. And you threaten leaving the forums if they won't be called Ballas or Groves? The f*ck, dude? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Sevens Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 The Russian mob plays only a tiny role, but are still featured. R* has excluded the Italian Mob which has featured in all predecessors'. The Hispanic gang The Avenues will feature and be know as The Street Boys. Grape Street Crips (Grove St Crips) & 18th Street Westside (The Maras) gang will also be present. The most important gang in the game is a small African-American gang, The Tracers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EscoLehGo Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 The Russian mob plays only a tiny role, but are still featured. R* has excluded the Italian Mob which has featured in all predecessors'. The Hispanic gang The Avenues will feature and be know as The Street Boys. Grape Street Crips (Grove St Crips) & 18th Street Westside (The Maras) gang will also be present. The most important gang in the game is a small African-American gang, The Tracers Cool info bro, can you tell us about the protag as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Made Man Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I see the Angels of Death returning more then any other gang. Since they were said to be a really big biker gang in tlad and said to originate from Cali, just like the hells angels... We should be betting on them! Also it could be possible that we kill Lester arnold(international president of the aod). I'm betting the aod to return and not gsf or ballas. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarrowsKai Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 The Russian mob plays only a tiny role, but are still featured. R* has excluded the Italian Mob which has featured in all predecessors'. The Hispanic gang The Avenues will feature and be know as The Street Boys. Grape Street Crips (Grove St Crips) & 18th Street Westside (The Maras) gang will also be present. The most important gang in the game is a small African-American gang, The Tracers Where did you hear all this? Don't trust anything like this without sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trideez Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I'm just happy that people like Cheesy are wrong. I wish more would bet their accounts on it though. How do you know we are wrong? It's another universe, how do you expect gangs from San Andreas to appear in it? Inter-dimensional travel? There will be bloods and crisps, I'm not saying there won't. They'll just be called something else. And you threaten leaving the forums if they won't be called Ballas or Groves? The f*ck, dude? The same way Sprunk or the Australian-America War travels through the "universes". They are brands/background story. If the Ballas and Families are representatives of the Bloods and Crips, and the Bloods and Crips have been in LA since the 70's, through the 80's, 90's, 2000's, and into present day, then the Families and Ballas have been in Los Santos since the 70's, 80's, 90's through to the present day. It's common sense. And I'm not threatening anything, I'm guaranteeing they will be there and trying to get people who are foolish enough to think otherwise to leave when they get proven wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarrowsKai Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I'm just happy that people like Cheesy are wrong. I wish more would bet their accounts on it though. How do you know we are wrong? It's another universe, how do you expect gangs from San Andreas to appear in it? Inter-dimensional travel? There will be bloods and crisps, I'm not saying there won't. They'll just be called something else. And you threaten leaving the forums if they won't be called Ballas or Groves? The f*ck, dude? The same way Sprunk or the Australian-America War travels through the "universes". They are brands/background story. If the Ballas and Families are representatives of the Bloods and Crips, and the Bloods and Crips have been in LA since the 70's, through the 80's, 90's, 2000's, and into present day, then the Families and Ballas have been in Los Santos since the 70's, 80's, 90's through to the present day. It's common sense. And I'm not threatening anything, I'm guaranteeing they will be there and trying to get people who are foolish enough to think otherwise to leave when they get proven wrong. Why should people leave just if they are proven wrong? If everyone did that soon enough there would be no one left on here at all. Sprunk and the Australian-American war are very minor background references, heard on the radio or in Billboard advertisements so it is okay for those to traverse Universes, just as Lazlow does. The Families and Ballas on the other hand were a major plot element in SA, so if they were to return then surely there would have to be references made to characters such as Sweet, CJ, Big Smoke et al. However these characters existed in the III era of games, so they won't appear in V just as no characters from III, VC or SA appeared in IV. There will definitely be Crips and Bloods type gangs in V, however they will be probably be called something other than Families and Ballas. If (however incredibly unlikely it is) R* did happen to use the names Families and Ballas again though they would be completely different from their SA counterparts in all aspects other than the fact they are street gangs based on Crips and Bloods. City names are the only major element to exist through all incarnations of GTA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT. Johnson Posted February 18, 2012 Author Share Posted February 18, 2012 I'm just happy that people like Cheesy are wrong. I wish more would bet their accounts on it though. How do you know we are wrong? It's another universe, how do you expect gangs from San Andreas to appear in it? Inter-dimensional travel? There will be bloods and crisps, I'm not saying there won't. They'll just be called something else. And you threaten leaving the forums if they won't be called Ballas or Groves? The f*ck, dude? The same way Sprunk or the Australian-America War travels through the "universes". They are brands/background story. If the Ballas and Families are representatives of the Bloods and Crips, and the Bloods and Crips have been in LA since the 70's, through the 80's, 90's, 2000's, and into present day, then the Families and Ballas have been in Los Santos since the 70's, 80's, 90's through to the present day. It's common sense. And I'm not threatening anything, I'm guaranteeing they will be there and trying to get people who are foolish enough to think otherwise to leave when they get proven wrong. Why should people leave just if they are proven wrong? If everyone did that soon enough there would be no one left on here at all. Sprunk and the Australian-American war are very minor background references, heard on the radio or in Billboard advertisements so it is okay for those to traverse Universes, just as Lazlow does. The Families and Ballas on the other hand were a major plot element in SA, so if they were to return then surely there would have to be references made to characters such as Sweet, CJ, Big Smoke et al. However these characters existed in the III era of games, so they won't appear in V just as no characters from III, VC or SA appeared in IV. There will definitely be Crips and Bloods type gangs in V, however they will be probably be called something other than Families and Ballas. If (however incredibly unlikely it is) R* did happen to use the names Families and Ballas again though they would be completely different from their SA counterparts in all aspects other than the fact they are street gangs based on Crips and Bloods. City names are the only major element to exist through all incarnations of GTA. Um, thank you. TRULY THANK YOU!!! I've been trying to figure how to explain to Trideez and all this time it was so simple. and this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheesyJ Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I'm just happy that people like Cheesy are wrong. I wish more would bet their accounts on it though. Why are you so sure of yourself that I'm wrong? Why would you really expect gangs from a completely different era to return? It doesn't really make a lot of sense to be honest, yet you seem so sure of it that you're arrogantly certain of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trideez Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I'm just happy that people like Cheesy are wrong. I wish more would bet their accounts on it though. How do you know we are wrong? It's another universe, how do you expect gangs from San Andreas to appear in it? Inter-dimensional travel? There will be bloods and crisps, I'm not saying there won't. They'll just be called something else. And you threaten leaving the forums if they won't be called Ballas or Groves? The f*ck, dude? The same way Sprunk or the Australian-America War travels through the "universes". They are brands/background story. If the Ballas and Families are representatives of the Bloods and Crips, and the Bloods and Crips have been in LA since the 70's, through the 80's, 90's, 2000's, and into present day, then the Families and Ballas have been in Los Santos since the 70's, 80's, 90's through to the present day. It's common sense. And I'm not threatening anything, I'm guaranteeing they will be there and trying to get people who are foolish enough to think otherwise to leave when they get proven wrong. Why should people leave just if they are proven wrong? If everyone did that soon enough there would be no one left on here at all. Sprunk and the Australian-American war are very minor background references, heard on the radio or in Billboard advertisements so it is okay for those to traverse Universes, just as Lazlow does. The Families and Ballas on the other hand were a major plot element in SA, so if they were to return then surely there would have to be references made to characters such as Sweet, CJ, Big Smoke et al. However these characters existed in the III era of games, so they won't appear in V just as no characters from III, VC or SA appeared in IV. There will definitely be Crips and Bloods type gangs in V, however they will be probably be called something other than Families and Ballas. If (however incredibly unlikely it is) R* did happen to use the names Families and Ballas again though they would be completely different from their SA counterparts in all aspects other than the fact they are street gangs based on Crips and Bloods. City names are the only major element to exist through all incarnations of GTA. Um, thank you. TRULY THANK YOU!!! I've been trying to figure how to explain to Trideez and all this time it was so simple. and this I don't see what he said that has you so impressed. His logic is extremely flawed. He says: The Families and Ballas on the other hand were a major plot element in SA, so if they were to return then surely there would have to be references made to characters such as Sweet, CJ, Big Smoke et al. I call BULLsh*t! This is where you doubters show how ignorant you are of the Bloods and Crips. These sets have THOUSANDS of members!!! Why the f*ck would CJ, Sweet, Ryder or Big Smoke "have to" be referenced??? Guess what, CJ and them were just 4 guys out of a gang that is THOUSANDS deep! 4 guys dont mean sh*t. 2 of them are dead anyway. CJ is a music mogul/casino owner, and Sweet is just one f*ckin gangbanger out of thousands, he's not special and doesn't HAVE TO be referenced at all. You people seem to compare the LA Bloods and Crips to some little rinky dink crew of Irish guys like Packie and his brothers in IV. Name one gang from GTA III that SHOULD have crossed over into 4? None because they were all generic come and go crews of nobodies. Nothing on the scale of LA Crips and Bloods aka Families and Ballas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EscoLehGo Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Trideez as presented a thorough rebuttal even though I'm still leaning towards them not being in the game. Crips and Bloods do have iconic members though that everyone in the gang know about such as a Tookie Williams or Ray Washington. I would think by the end of the game CJ and Sweet would have realistically reached that kind of notoriety since they brought the gang out of the ashes and back on top. It would be a bit strange and discontinuous to have full blown modern versions of the families and ballas with no mention of the old SA crew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT. Johnson Posted February 18, 2012 Author Share Posted February 18, 2012 I love the attention this topic is getting but one thing is for certain. Trideez, you are either: A) Ignorant B) Stubborn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarrowsKai Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I'm just happy that people like Cheesy are wrong. I wish more would bet their accounts on it though. How do you know we are wrong? It's another universe, how do you expect gangs from San Andreas to appear in it? Inter-dimensional travel? There will be bloods and crisps, I'm not saying there won't. They'll just be called something else. And you threaten leaving the forums if they won't be called Ballas or Groves? The f*ck, dude? The same way Sprunk or the Australian-America War travels through the "universes". They are brands/background story. If the Ballas and Families are representatives of the Bloods and Crips, and the Bloods and Crips have been in LA since the 70's, through the 80's, 90's, 2000's, and into present day, then the Families and Ballas have been in Los Santos since the 70's, 80's, 90's through to the present day. It's common sense. And I'm not threatening anything, I'm guaranteeing they will be there and trying to get people who are foolish enough to think otherwise to leave when they get proven wrong. Why should people leave just if they are proven wrong? If everyone did that soon enough there would be no one left on here at all. Sprunk and the Australian-American war are very minor background references, heard on the radio or in Billboard advertisements so it is okay for those to traverse Universes, just as Lazlow does. The Families and Ballas on the other hand were a major plot element in SA, so if they were to return then surely there would have to be references made to characters such as Sweet, CJ, Big Smoke et al. However these characters existed in the III era of games, so they won't appear in V just as no characters from III, VC or SA appeared in IV. There will definitely be Crips and Bloods type gangs in V, however they will be probably be called something other than Families and Ballas. If (however incredibly unlikely it is) R* did happen to use the names Families and Ballas again though they would be completely different from their SA counterparts in all aspects other than the fact they are street gangs based on Crips and Bloods. City names are the only major element to exist through all incarnations of GTA. Um, thank you. TRULY THANK YOU!!! I've been trying to figure how to explain to Trideez and all this time it was so simple. and this I don't see what he said that has you so impressed. His logic is extremely flawed. He says: The Families and Ballas on the other hand were a major plot element in SA, so if they were to return then surely there would have to be references made to characters such as Sweet, CJ, Big Smoke et al. I call BULLsh*t! This is where you doubters show how ignorant you are of the Bloods and Crips. These sets have THOUSANDS of members!!! Why the f*ck would CJ, Sweet, Ryder or Big Smoke "have to" be referenced??? Guess what, CJ and them were just 4 guys out of a gang that is THOUSANDS deep! 4 guys dont mean sh*t. 2 of them are dead anyway. CJ is a music mogul/casino owner, and Sweet is just one f*ckin gangbanger out of thousands, he's not special and doesn't HAVE TO be referenced at all. You people seem to compare the LA Bloods and Crips to some little rinky dink crew of Irish guys like Packie and his brothers in IV. Name one gang from GTA III that SHOULD have crossed over into 4? None because they were all generic come and go crews of nobodies. Nothing on the scale of LA Crips and Bloods aka Families and Ballas. Trideez, can we clear something up. Do you think that Families and Ballas will return purely in name? That is to say they will be called Families and Ballas but be completely different from what they were like in SA, as in it is as if the events of San Andreas just never occurred. OR Do you think they will be back exactly as the were in San Andreas? Being based around the same in game streets (Grove Street etc.) and it is as if the events of SA did happen (whether they are referenced or not). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarrowsKai Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Trideez as presented a thorough rebuttal even though I'm still leaning towards them not being in the game. Crips and Bloods do have iconic members though that everyone in the gang know about such as a Tookie Williams or Ray Washington. I would think by the end of the game CJ and Sweet would have realistically reached that kind of notoriety since they brought the gang out of the ashes and back on top. It would be a bit strange and discontinuous to have full blown modern versions of the families and ballas with no mention of the old SA crew This is what I mean, Families wouldn't even exist in the SA cannon if it hadn't been for CJ and Sweet, so surely they MUST be referenced. Sweet even said he would never leave the Grove, so unless he died or went to prison he would still be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Valor Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 ^^^^ Agreed. The Families hit rock bottom in SA and CJ single-handedly helped them take over ALL of LS. If that doesn't earn you notoriety in the gang world, I'm not sure what does. And since when do gangbangers not talk about the glory days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trideez Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 (edited) Trideez as presented a thorough rebuttal even though I'm still leaning towards them not being in the game. Crips and Bloods do have iconic members though that everyone in the gang know about such as a Tookie Williams or Ray Washington. I would think by the end of the game CJ and Sweet would have realistically reached that kind of notoriety since they brought the gang out of the ashes and back on top. It would be a bit strange and discontinuous to have full blown modern versions of the families and ballas with no mention of the old SA crew OK How about if you go to Grove Street you see a mural on the wall with R.I.P. OG Sweet or RIP CJ. The end. But do you think if you go to Temple Drive Families territory anyone there gives a f*ck about CJ or Sweet? They got their own OG's and gang stories to tell. CJ and Sweet are only important to people in the Grove Street Families, one set out of MANY. In LA there are over 100 Crip sets. You think Tookie is a legend in all of them? You'd probably get killed for mentioning Tookie in some areas. Monster Kody is a legendary gang member too, but do you think he means anything to, say the Atlantic Drive Compton Crips?? Probably not, he's just one guy from a gang that they have little interaction with. Individual gang members come and go, the gangs themselves remain. Crips and Bloods are Los Angeles, period, and in Rockstar's universe these 2 epic gangs have been established as Families and Ballas. One thing that was stupid about SA was the gang war system in which you could "take over" another gang's territory. In real life that is NOT how it is. The Eight Tray Gangsta Crips and the Rollin 60 Crips have been at war for 30+ years and neither of their territories have significantly changed. I hope the sets in LS are more reflective of this. Edited February 18, 2012 by Trideez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarrowsKai Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Trideez as presented a thorough rebuttal even though I'm still leaning towards them not being in the game. Crips and Bloods do have iconic members though that everyone in the gang know about such as a Tookie Williams or Ray Washington. I would think by the end of the game CJ and Sweet would have realistically reached that kind of notoriety since they brought the gang out of the ashes and back on top. It would be a bit strange and discontinuous to have full blown modern versions of the families and ballas with no mention of the old SA crew OK How about if you go to Grove Street you see a mural on the wall with R.I.P. OG Sweet or RIP CJ. The end. But do you think if you go to Temple Drive Families territory anyone there gives a f*ck about CJ or Sweet? They got their own OG's and gang stories to tell. CJ and Sweet are only important to people in the Grove Street Families, one set out of MANY. In LA there are over 100 Crip sets. You think Tookie is a legend in all of them? You'd probably get killed for mentioning Tookie in some areas. Monster Kody is a legendary gang member too, but do you think he means anything to, say the Atlantic Drive Compton Crips?? Probably not, he's just one guy from a gang that they have little interaction with. Individual gang members come and go, the gangs themselves remain. Crips and Bloods are Los Angeles, period, and in Rockstar's universe these 2 epic gangs have been established as Families and Ballas. Yes but the ENTIRE Families were nigh on eradicated by the end of SA until CJ and Sweet (and ONLY CJ and Sweet) resurrected them and united them! This is seen by the fact the entire map was purple until the mission where CJ and Sweet go to start taking over turf again. However, this is still illogical seeing as SA is a different cannon to IV / V so the characters shouldn't return, and neither should the gangs. Which is why I asked you if you think the gangs will return just in name, or if they will return with the full SA back story? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trideez Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 (edited) ^^^^Agreed. The Families hit rock bottom in SA and CJ single-handedly helped them take over ALL of LS. If that doesn't earn you notoriety in the gang world, I'm not sure what does. And since when do gangbangers not talk about the glory days? So you think Temple Drive Families, or Seville Boulevard Familes sit around talking about CJ??? How about the Back Pocket Families? or the Bird Town Families? or the Hanz Street Families? You think they could care less about some Grove Street Families member? f*ck no. @ Garrowskai Which is why I asked you if you think the gangs will return just in name, or if they will return with the full SA back story? I dont think they will return with the full SA back story. Just the names of the gangs, I'm expecting a whole lot of different Families and Ballas sets. Edited February 18, 2012 by Trideez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT. Johnson Posted February 18, 2012 Author Share Posted February 18, 2012 ^^^^Agreed. The Families hit rock bottom in SA and CJ single-handedly helped them take over ALL of LS. If that doesn't earn you notoriety in the gang world, I'm not sure what does. And since when do gangbangers not talk about the glory days? So you think Temple Drive Families, or Seville Boulevard Familes sit around talking about CJ??? How about the Back Pocket Families? or the Bird Town Families? or the Hanz Street Families? You think they could care less about some Grove Street Families member? f*ck no. @ Garrowskai Which is why I asked you if you think the gangs will return just in name, or if they will return with the full SA back story? I dont think they will return with the full SA back story. Just the names of the gangs, I'm expecting a whole lot of different Families and Ballas sets. What you are not getting, however, is although they were sets, they were still working together (or attempted too) in the mission "Reuniting the Families"; meaning CJ and friends were trying to reunite the ENTIRE Families gang; not just the sets. It can only be inferred that the Families sets, after "the Green Sabre" split or broke up or were killed off by the Ballas. Therefore, when CJ returnd, there were no more "sets"; it was just the Families gang, which CJ indirctly brought back to power at the end of "End of the Line". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarrowsKai Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 ^^^^Agreed. The Families hit rock bottom in SA and CJ single-handedly helped them take over ALL of LS. If that doesn't earn you notoriety in the gang world, I'm not sure what does. And since when do gangbangers not talk about the glory days? So you think Temple Drive Families, or Seville Boulevard Familes sit around talking about CJ??? How about the Back Pocket Families? or the Bird Town Families? or the Hanz Street Families? You think they could care less about some Grove Street Families member? f*ck no. @ Garrowskai Which is why I asked you if you think the gangs will return just in name, or if they will return with the full SA back story? I dont think they will return with the full SA back story. Just the names of the gangs, I'm expecting a whole lot of different Families and Ballas sets. I think there might be a very slim chance that the Families and Ballas will return in name only (although I think it is far more likely they will change the names to avoid any reference to the III era games as they are completely different cannon). I think you might have missed the point slightly when talking about the different sets. Every set of the Families was eradicated by the Ballas during the course of SA until CJ and Sweet brought them back. Lets say this happened in LA in real life. Lets say the Bloods totally suppressed every Crip set, and then a single Crip was somehow able to fight back and take back all of the Crips turf including some of the Bloods turf, are you really saying that only the set that that particular Crip came from would care? Remember, they are only BASED on the Crips and Bloods in that they take a lot of inspiration from them, it doesn't necessarily mean they would be exactly like them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trideez Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 ^^^^Agreed. The Families hit rock bottom in SA and CJ single-handedly helped them take over ALL of LS. If that doesn't earn you notoriety in the gang world, I'm not sure what does. And since when do gangbangers not talk about the glory days? So you think Temple Drive Families, or Seville Boulevard Familes sit around talking about CJ??? How about the Back Pocket Families? or the Bird Town Families? or the Hanz Street Families? You think they could care less about some Grove Street Families member? f*ck no. @ Garrowskai Which is why I asked you if you think the gangs will return just in name, or if they will return with the full SA back story? I dont think they will return with the full SA back story. Just the names of the gangs, I'm expecting a whole lot of different Families and Ballas sets. I think there might be a very slim chance that the Families and Ballas will return in name only (although I think it is far more likely they will change the names to avoid any reference to the III era games as they are completely different cannon). I think you might have missed the point slightly when talking about the different sets. Every set of the Families was eradicated by the Ballas during the course of SA until CJ and Sweet brought them back. Lets say this happened in LA in real life. Lets say the Bloods totally suppressed every Crip set, and then a single Crip was somehow able to fight back and take back all of the Crips turf including some of the Bloods turf, are you really saying that only the set that that particular Crip came from would care? Remember, they are only BASED on the Crips and Bloods in that they take a lot of inspiration from them, it doesn't necessarily mean they would be exactly like them. Like I said in my previous post, the idea of "eradicating" or "taking over" another gang is ludicrous and that's now how it is, but I understand for the purpose of making the game fun it had to be done. I don't think any of SA's story will continue over into GTA V. But here is what I am saying. In South Central, Compton, Watts and other areas, there will be black gang members occupying different blocks. And I highly doubt that R* is going to have them wearing red and blue, too many people have been killed in real life over red and blue for them to trivialize it in a game. So, what colors will the gangstas in GTA V wear? MOST LIKELY, and I'm betting my account on it, Green and Purple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarrowsKai Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 ^^^^Agreed. The Families hit rock bottom in SA and CJ single-handedly helped them take over ALL of LS. If that doesn't earn you notoriety in the gang world, I'm not sure what does. And since when do gangbangers not talk about the glory days? So you think Temple Drive Families, or Seville Boulevard Familes sit around talking about CJ??? How about the Back Pocket Families? or the Bird Town Families? or the Hanz Street Families? You think they could care less about some Grove Street Families member? f*ck no. @ Garrowskai Which is why I asked you if you think the gangs will return just in name, or if they will return with the full SA back story? I dont think they will return with the full SA back story. Just the names of the gangs, I'm expecting a whole lot of different Families and Ballas sets. I think there might be a very slim chance that the Families and Ballas will return in name only (although I think it is far more likely they will change the names to avoid any reference to the III era games as they are completely different cannon). I think you might have missed the point slightly when talking about the different sets. Every set of the Families was eradicated by the Ballas during the course of SA until CJ and Sweet brought them back. Lets say this happened in LA in real life. Lets say the Bloods totally suppressed every Crip set, and then a single Crip was somehow able to fight back and take back all of the Crips turf including some of the Bloods turf, are you really saying that only the set that that particular Crip came from would care? Remember, they are only BASED on the Crips and Bloods in that they take a lot of inspiration from them, it doesn't necessarily mean they would be exactly like them. Like I said in my previous post, the idea of "eradicating" or "taking over" another gang is ludicrous and that's now how it is, but I understand for the purpose of making the game fun it had to be done. I don't think any of SA's story will continue over into GTA V. But here is what I am saying. In South Central, Compton, Watts and other areas, there will be black gang members occupying different blocks. And I highly doubt that R* is going to have them wearing red and blue, too many people have been killed in real life over red and blue for them to trivialize it in a game. So, what colors will the gangstas in GTA V wear? MOST LIKELY, and I'm betting my account on it, Green and Purple. I understand where you are coming from now, that it is in just name only. However I do think they will be different names and possibly different colours (probs not Blue and Red though, as you said), most likely make them more realistic as well (more sets, warring within gangs etc). I think R* will do this simply because they want as little as possible to be associated with the III era of games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knife Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I can't believe anyone would make bets in either direction. R* may use the same gang names, they may not. I can't believe anyone can be so certain one way or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarrowsKai Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I can't believe anyone would make bets in either direction. R* may use the same gang names, they may not. I can't believe anyone can be so certain one way or the other. I haven't made a bet, and nor am I 100% sure, more like 99%. I think R* will have different names and possibly colours but I know there is always the chance (however small) that they will just bring them back as Families and Ballas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EscoLehGo Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 So Trideez I take it you feel as though the families and ballas are a permanent placement in Los Santos, much like the name itself and that's why they should be able to transcend universes. Sort of like how in GTA 3 the italian mafia played a major part and although a few names and characters were changed they also played a big part in the reimagined version of Liberty City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trideez Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 So Trideez I take it you feel as though the families and ballas are a permanent placement in Los Santos, much like the name itself and that's why they should be able to transcend universes. Sort of like how in GTA 3 the italian mafia played a major part and although a few names and characters were changed they also played a big part in the reimagined version of Liberty City Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Made Man Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Me personally would rather fresh new cool names for the gangs that going to be based of the bloods and crips. And new colors. Ballas and Grove street would be boring seeing them again. If R can't use red and blue. Then how about silver,orange,black,brown,white,etc.... Idk I just don't want to see the same colors or gang name that was in GTA SA... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT. Johnson Posted February 18, 2012 Author Share Posted February 18, 2012 I can't believe anyone would make bets in either direction. R* may use the same gang names, they may not. I can't believe anyone can be so certain one way or the other. The only reason I made this bet is because: 1) I wanted Trideez to shut up about it. 2) He is GUARANTEED that he will be right. 3) There always has to be an opposer. 4) I'm confident as much as he is. It's turned into something more than just a bet now; now it's become a community-wide debate! Since this is attracting a lot of attention, I see it as a good thing for the members to occupy their time until V comes and it keeps the forum active. This topic gets answered at least every 3-5 minutes. Plus, some of the evidence supporting both sides is quite interesting. I personally don't mind that I betted. What is life without risks, eh? I'm more interested in what else Trideez can come up with and what the members will present to those arguments (as well as my own). On an added note, I'm also learning a lot more about gangs in La and sets in general so I find the creation of this topic, the bet, and the overall expereince to be both enriching and beneficial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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